June 5, 2008

Hillary Is "A Tortured Person"

Columnist Sally Quinn: Clinton Doesn't Know Who She Really Is Or What She Wants

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(CBS)  In the wake of Hillary Clinton's decision to end her long, historic campaign for the presidency and throw her support behind now presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama, speculation about Clinton's desired political future has been rampant.

Does she want to be Obama's running mate? A spot on the Supreme Court, should he win? Another crack at the White House, should he fall short this fall? The post of Senate majority leader? Something else?

The subject was raised with Washington Post columnist Sally Quinn on The Early Show Thursday by co-anchor Harry Smith, and Quinn minced no words, saying, "I've been intrigued by the questions in the last couple of weeks, 'What does Hillary really want?' And I think that the answer is that Hillary, up until now, has wanted what she thinks she should want. And what I think is that Hillary doesn't know what she wants. And she doesn't know who she really is.

"From the very beginning, when she married Bill Clinton, when she moved to Arkansas, she gave up her lucrative career, she changed her name during the campaign, 'I'll stand by my man' -- her personality changed. You remember when she first came into the White House and she had a different hairdo and a different outfit? She looked completely different. And people kept saying, 'Who is she?'

"And, even during the campaign this time -- during the Monica (Lewinsky) thing, when she stood by Bill Clinton, she was the health care maven. She was the strong one and the weak one.

And, during this campaign, she allowed him to, on some levels, sabotage her. She was feisty at some point and even shrill, and then she would cry.

"And then ... she said (after winning the New Hampshire primary), 'I found my voice.' But I don't think that she ever did find her voice.

"And I think that what she needs to do now -- and I know this sounds really strange, but -- if I were Hillary Clinton, I would go off to a retreat somewhere. ... A silent retreat. And I would stay there, I would take a sabbatical and stay there for three months, and not talk, and meditate, and think, and try to figure out who I really was and what I really wanted. I'm serious.

"I think that this is a tortured person who has run and run and run and gone for it and gone for it, and it's power, and it's this and it's that, 'I've got to be there.' There's never a moment where you see her relaxing, where you see her really stopping to smell the roses, stopping to say, 'Who am I and what is it that I want?'

"Maybe what she really needs is a wonderful, loving relationship with somebody instead of just going after power and being this ambitious person that I think she thinks she oughta be."

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by isis39 June 5, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
Who does this Sally Quinn think she is? Hillary Clinton? How dare she presume to know what someone thinks, wants or should do with their life. She reminds me of the St.Petersburg Times. They went after Hillary with every hateful column, cartoon and editorial they had. They both make me sick. Harry disappointed me with his smerk.
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by jmeelee-2009 June 5, 2008 11:37 AM PDT
I and my husband listened to Ms. Quinn''s comments with growing disbelief. We were both deeply saddened by Sally Quinn''s condescending comments about Hilary Clinton. For Ms. Quinn, an obviously successful woman in her own right, to state that Hilary does not know who she is; that she should go to a spa to figure out what she wants - maybe a loving relationship - is not only disrepectful, but contains the shadows of the old archaic refrain that "women should be barefoot, pregnant and stay in the kitchen." Perhaps Ms. Quinn needs to go to a spa and do some reflection of her own as to why she felt the need to make such comments regarding a woman who is not only her peer but is a pioneer who is unmatched, in recent times, to contributing to opening opportunities and hope for women everywhere.
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
What sort of reporting is this? Who cares what Sally thinks! They must have nothing else to report about if this is what they are talking about today. Good Lord, leave Hillary alone. She has been a public servant all of her life, she has changed with the times, with the events, and she still is working for the public. What about you Sally? Who are you, really, and do you really know who you are? Not only are you not in a position to make these judgements but WHO ASKED YOU? Get a life!
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by zazufluffytulips June 5, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
WOW.. and who are you???? get a grip!!!!
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by zazufluffytulips June 5, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
Back to the mailroom for Sally
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by elay50 June 5, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
Why would you take up any broadcast time with Ms. Quinn''s opinion - especially after the recent turn of events in the election process? Isn''t her claim to fame being married to Ben Bradlee? Any of her comments would never be made if the subject was a man! Power hungry! Isnt every politician. Shame on Ms. Quinn and shame on you for airing this trash! Stop personal critiques and stick to the isses. Hillary''s legacy is that she tried harder than anyone else I can recall to make things better for everyone. This spot was just editorializing junk!
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
This is total trash reporting! A bunch of B.S. This Sally Quinn sounds like a real frustrated woman who needs to get to the spa herself. Take your own advice Quinn and while you are meditating please do not talk. You''ve already said enough for a lifetime. This is the most disrespectful news being reported and CBS should have put a sock in this woman''s mouth. Unbelievable!!!
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by rpmcestmoi June 5, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
Sally Quinn, rather old hat New York magazine writer who was once more like Hillary than she wants to admit, has put her finger on one part of Hillary: Who Am I? The insecurity of the woman is palpable. Obama''s "You''re likable enough, Hillary," must have taken the wind out of her.
Then there is the hubris. How to gigure??
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by elay50 June 5, 2008 11:57 AM PDT
As an addendum, right after the Hillary hits, CBS showcases it''s new summer lineup - a show called "Swingtown" about sexual swinging and positions it as a comedy!!!! CBS, again the arbiter of good taste, is there letting us know how to think and what to watch. I hope this Early Show gets some tasteful substance soon, or I''ll be reading a book with my breakfast. Oh, let''s not forget the nude underage teen photo story too! The National Enquirer on TV! A great way to start the day.
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
Quinn should be fired over this. This truly is outrageous!
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by jean243 June 5, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
She was given a role by her dad to "succeed." So to Hillary, the process of trying to win something is "the role" she was given. She can''t make good decisions outside of this role. She can''t decide that "OK, I''ve lost, now I must concede for the good of my party, for the policies I believe in, for country, for the world." Because that isn''t part of her "always succeed" role. She must "succeed as Bill Clinton''s wife, succeed in her plan to be president, succeed at getting whatever she thinks she MUST HAVE at this moment (VP maybe, but she''s tried to position herself by using prima dona, demanding tactics which is 100% the wrong way to do it.) Thank God she won''t be president, because she is handicapped by personality as much as George Bush is.
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by jean243 June 5, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
If Clinton ever takes the high road (right now, that would be to concede completely), she will then regain some of great deal of respect she has lost due to her poorly run campaign and her poor comments during the campaign.
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by jean243 June 5, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
This is what many are thinking. Read the news articles: prominent news writers are pointing out that Hillary has disasterously ruined her VP chances by NOT conceding, by acting like the drama queen. Thank God she won''t be president, she is unable to make good decisions.
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by sahara9-2009 June 5, 2008 12:13 PM PDT
Oh, Miss Sally, I do believe you are a tortured gal yourself. Maybe what you really mean is you couldn''t handle what Hillary has handled period. I suggest instead of practicing long distance psychology, you should go into therapy yourself. I''m sad for you that you feel so threatened.
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 12:14 PM PDT
For those that are posting that Hillary should concede, please look at the news today. She is making a speech somewhere this weekend about it. So, one less judgment you get to make today. The high and mighty Obama supporters, of course, rose to the occasion of kicking a horse when it''s down. If only the shoe were on the other foot.
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by twotraps June 5, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
Jean243, I totally agree. She is at a critical juncture for the perception of her character, which was under increasing fire as the campaign wore on.

It will be interesting to see what she does. On the one hand, she feeds on being in charge, which might mean a less than easy exit from the stage. On the other hand....three big blows in the past week may change things for her:
1/ The Clintons used to be the big insiders of the DNC, they could roam freely within reason....not last weekend however, changing times, the Clinton name was not enough.

2/ Supposed support from the Delegate Elders was not as strong as she thought.

3/ The group of lawmakers that called her yesterday strongly suggesting she hang it up.

All three were harsh reminders of how things have changed. Lets see what she does.
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by jack3213 June 5, 2008 12:19 PM PDT
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama''''s political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama''''s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son''''s education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama''''s mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. The terrorists that crashed into the Twin Towers were once all enrolled in the study of Wahabism..just as Obama was!!

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Clinton is just HISTORY-
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 12:30 PM PDT
Hey Jack, if any of what you post is truth, the Obama will be history too! Actually, it wouldn''t surprise me in the least. Obama has already unleashed SEVERAL ghosts in his closet.

An ex-democrat . . . McCAIN 08
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by rewinners June 5, 2008 12:34 PM PDT
I can''t believe that CBS has stooped so low as to put Sally Quinn on this morning. Through out this whole process of electing someone to run for president of the decomocratic party I have felt that CBS has been bias on there reporting of Hillary. Instead of praising Hillary for being the first women to run for president, they have done so much negative reporting against Hillary that I am ashamed of them. It is apparant that CBS wants sensationalism instead of good reporting. CBS will not waste my time any longer with there disrespectful reporting.
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by primilioneah June 5, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
Yes, I have to it, it is mine, the presidenncy is what she wants. If only she could be allowed to say that right now what she wants is for McCain to win in November.
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by neec13 June 5, 2008 12:50 PM PDT
Is CBS considered to be a salient news organization? Inclusion of Sally Quinn, with her Clinton ccommentary on the morning show, is akin to an interview with rust about iron. Your organization might not want to define yourselves as journalists.
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by suzyku June 5, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
Hillary has allowed blind ambition and a sense of her own entitlement to govern her. She ran a dirty campaign, she showed that she has no class and no grace by trying to make it all about "her" on Obama''s historic WINNING night! She has shown she cannot admit to wrongdoing or mistakes, she blames everyone else and takes no responsibility. Obama treated her with respect even though she didn''t reciprocate. Enough deference given to her, she does need to go away now, far far away and be quiet except to support our "real" nominee!
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by pam1sadge June 5, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
Maybe this article should have been about Obama and not Hillary. Does anybody REALLY know who he is? I wonder how all his supporters are going to feel when he is robbed of the presidency in November. I can''t wait to hear all that whining. It will serve you all right, indeed.
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by pepperwood2 June 5, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
Hillary has that lying preparation H smirk on her face again. She''s going out of her way to support Obama & encourage the feminazis to do the same thing.

All the while, behind the scenes, she''s attending fundraisers & plans to be your presidential candidate in 2012. Obama cannot win, Obama cannot win. Its all about me, wheeeeeeeeeee, send me the money. So sad.

Lets show her up by electing Obama in 2008. What a basket case. So immature, greedy, divisive & unpresidential.
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by don5028 June 5, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
Ms. Quinn has hit the nail on the head. Hillary doesn''t know who she is. She is always changing. How can she sell herself to us when SHE doesn''t know who she is? She was a different Hillary for each state''s primary; she was always trying to be what she thought the voters wanted in each state.
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by ldolin June 5, 2008 1:19 PM PDT
Sally Quinn...............DISGUSTING!!! Go get some more plastic surgery and leave Hillary Clinton alone.
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by elay50 June 5, 2008 1:21 PM PDT
If you really want to talk about changing to suite the public, Senator Obama dumping his church and pastor of 20 years just about says it all. No politician is perfect. For me it''s about the issues, not personal weaknesses and strengths. I doubt any of the critics out there would even attempt a run for the presidency or any other office. Everyone loves to complain but so few actually try to do something about it. The cliche about walking a mile in someone elses shoes is appropriate!
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by kiaepeterson June 5, 2008 1:38 PM PDT
Sally Quinn- I can not believe the things you said about Hillary this morning on the show. How dare you talkabout Hillary like that!! Are you telling me you look the same as you did 20years ago? Are you telling me women should not want power and success? I think you need to go on a spa retreat for a few months and figure out if you are a woman. I guess in your life you never had any problems or hurdles to over come. Please do not you ever speak about Hillary like that again!!
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by linnells1 June 5, 2008 1:40 PM PDT
I completely agree with the comment posted by elay50 at 11:49 AM, today: "Why would you take up any broadcast time with Ms. Quinn''''s opinion? ... Shame on Ms. Quinn and shame on you for airing this trash!" ... or was this just CBS'' method for airing its own hatchet job?
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by ericmiami June 5, 2008 1:40 PM PDT
Sally is right. Hillary has become a caricature of herself. It''s truly sad.
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by vahassl June 5, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
Sally, The fact that you wrote this article is evidence of an obvious obsession to psycho-analyzing Clinton. You''re need to fulfill some base desire to satisfy your dark side (along with the rest of the media types like you) is evidence that you the "tortured person." Did you write this way about Mike Hackabee when he hung on until the end? Oh no, I''m sure not. Probably you thought he was being "Strong." Get a life!
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by love234ameri June 5, 2008 1:47 PM PDT
Doctor of Psychiatry Sally Quinn: You absolutely are not the right person to analyze HRC as you did. You got what you wanted by using your female assets, didn''t you? Does this make you an expert on what all women need and should do? Don''t believe so. Leave this alone; better people than you can figure this out.
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by love234ameri June 5, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
CBS has gotten to be a radical news media. Move to Cuba, CBS
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by avere June 5, 2008 1:52 PM PDT
What a thoughtful, spiritual offering, Ms. Quinn.

I''ve actually been thinking something similar... because I''d like for Hillary...to actually be happy. INTERALLY happy. And I tend to agree: My sense is, Ms. Clinton has been "running" so long, "jumping through hoops" for so long, "doing what she thinks she should be doing" for so long that she''s lost touch with her very Soul.

I wish her...peace. And contentment. And joy.

By doing the retreat thing...not answering phones, not talking with Bill, not meeting with anyone, but simply quieting down and listening to herself...for an extended period....it might possible for her to really "see," may be for the first time in her life, what''s truly most important to her heart.

Ms. Clinton, I send you love, and kind thoughts, and the highest regard...for yourself.

A middle aged, female Obama supporter
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by ldolin June 5, 2008 1:58 PM PDT
Have some courage CBS to post this video, so that those who missed Miss Quinn on television can, not only read this account but, watch her deliver it. As the founder of "On Faith", Miss Quinn should seek refuge herself with pastoral counseling and come to understand that her attacks on Sen. Clinton do not advance her own spiritual balance.
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by parachutepol June 5, 2008 2:02 PM PDT
I think the article was correct. She does need time to relax, because their is nothing to prove. At the end of the day , in my opinion love is what she needs most of all. We all send out our love and support to her at this time.Power isn''t everything in life.Get well soon!!!!
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by tamhas-2009 June 5, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
That is the most absurd and sexist reasoning I''ve heard in a long time!!! This article did not deserve to be published. The author is clearly projecting her own internalized misogyny onto one of the most highly intelligent and qualified people to ever run for the office of president. Such rubbish!
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by twenty4fps June 5, 2008 2:18 PM PDT
Sally Quinn has a strong point. During the 16 months of primaries HRC has spoken through a multitude of voices, or personalities. Showed compassion, then disdain for her fellow contestant. Had a very hard time following her. Got to the point of, "would the real HRC please step forward" Whereas Barack was consistent, spoke with a singular voice, and never attacked her character first, (which she had done to him on many an occasion). Good riddance HRC!! Go get McBush Barack!!!
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by seetheway June 5, 2008 2:22 PM PDT
I think Hillery know exactly what she wants, power and attention. And she won''t admit loosing and can''t admit defeat. She''ll whine and argue just like Gore. She''ll drag this on till the bitter end.
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by laforbus June 5, 2008 2:25 PM PDT
Hairdos, outfits and a loving relationship. What a hard hitting piece. Very impressive. CBS has lowered itself to Cosmo. Next they''ll be giving viewers quizzes like, "Who''s the Hottest Senator?". Luckily, if Hillary can live through Bill''s second term, some backwards flippant advice from a wingnut like Quinn won''t be a blip on her radar. Thank God they didn''t ask Dr. Laura what she thought. Yuck!
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by youngnsmart June 5, 2008 2:27 PM PDT
Jesus, what kind of idiotic responses are these? Especially the ones saying that this is an anti-feminist conspiracy! First of all, this analysis could easily be applied to a male. Second of all, there is nothing offensive about this analysis. They''re looking at Hillary Clinton, who has continually refused to bow out for months even when nomination was virtually impossible, and saying, "What the hell are you doing?" Quinn is saying maybe she needs to take a break and figure out that winning isn''t everything. You people are so overly disgusted by a non-event that you must be the kind of emotionally-attached voters that are killing America. Have fun destroying the DNC this year.
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by rose1la June 5, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
I don''t give a flying **** what Hillary wants, the but idea of her going off alone for a few months (how about a few years?) is very appealing.
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by susieq1112 June 5, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
Sally Quinn is SO right!! Hillary does so need to find herself and accept herself -- whoever she REALLY is. No one really paid Hillary any attention (except as expected for the president''s wife) until the Monica thing. It''s like she went in a million different directions to try to compensate for what she doesn''t think she has. Get a grip, Hillary, and stop trying to get it while everybody is looking.
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by caro_-2009 June 5, 2008 2:42 PM PDT
I am constantly amazed that an article such as this one by Sally Quinn would be aired on a site that represents itself as news. This is an opinion piece, highly flavored with tired stereotypical remarks and a flamboyant use of negative language to attract attention.
I would more expect to have read this in the comment section - I think CBS, you should be ashamed for pushing this type of baiting and personality critique. This is not news!
This democratic presendential bid has been surprisingly marred by "side taking" and name calling, with many people refusing to vote for the other if their choice did not win. This side taking is very strange - and I suppose this is encouragement for someone like Sally to express herself in such a manner - people get caught up in it.
It provides a huge distraction to what is really at stake, what issues are really coming to the forefront and what policies will be taking shape that affect our lives and our place in the world. Exciting stuff, Really!
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by sailhardy June 5, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
Why is it that Democrats have leading candidates who feel very entitled to be president, and who also seem to have trouble finding themselves and their voices.

This was alleged to be Al Gore''s problem when he ran in 2000, despite the fact that 2000 was his fourth national election effort, and Hillary apparently had the same problem in this her third national election.

Grown-ups are probably better bets for the American presidency.
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by agalla19 June 5, 2008 2:49 PM PDT
Sally Quinn, shame on you! What gives you the right to make judgments about anyone''s personal life or their beliefs?
And shame on CBS and Harry Smith for letting you make the remarks you made and not cutting you off. I watch the show regularly and I have seen them politely steer the conversation in another direction when it is clearly inappropriate. This was not a 60 Minutes tell all--it was a 2 minute stint on The Early Show!
From my perspective, this was just one more example of the disrespect that seems so prevalent in our society today. Whether you like Hilary or not, the woman did a h**l of a job getting to the place she did. Celebrate that and if you can''t, remember the adage about saying something nice...if you can''t, then don''t say anything at all.
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by June 5, 2008 2:53 PM PDT
This couldn''t be more sexist if it just said "Hillary Needs to Get Laid"! Very disappointing, considering the gender of the author. The other comments are right -- this assessment belongs in Cosmo, not CBS.
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by redpapya June 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
Hillary need a man that love her, not a *** maniac that used her and run around the town with Gina, Monica, Flowers, Elizabeth...
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by Cas2dy June 5, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
The woman is as power hungry as any man, and we all know that those in power rarely let something as humane as "a loving, wonderful relationship" interfere with their egotistical and unquenchable lust for power. The quote alone is an insult to many women, myself included. You have never heard such a quote in reference to any of the males who have run and lost. We ALL tend to find solace in the arms of our loved ones after a sound defeat...Hilary already has Bill, she has Chelsea and she could probably get Rosie O''Donell too if she wanted.
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by lhummer June 5, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
Hillary%u2019s speech on Tuesday night provided some insight as to who she might really be. Even when everyone, including her most staunch supporters, realized that losing was not only an option but a stark reality, she simply could not accept it. Because of her refusal ever to acknowledge defeat, the speech lacked a certain grace. She couldn%u2019t even FAKE a concession. It leaves one wondering if she is really the black knight from Monty Python%u2019s Holy Grail; he lived in a parallel universe, and I think she does too.
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