N.Y. Smokers Face Highest Tax In Nation

Health Commissioner Says $1.25 Per Pack Increase Is A "Public Health Victory"

(AP)  New Yorkers start paying the highest cigarette taxes in the nation Tuesday with the latest $1.25 spike per pack that officials expect to bring in $265 million a year.

Convenience stores across the state and the smokers who will be paying the price are angry about the change, but health officials hail the tax increase as a success. Cigarette taxes will raise a total of $1.3 billion for the state budget in fiscal year 2008-2009, including the new tax.

"Isn't that something - to say that I'm excited about a tax increase? But I am," said Dr. Richard Daines, the New York health commissioner. "This is a public health victory. We know one of the really effective tools to get people off of their nicotine addiction is to the raise the price."

Smokers will be paying $2.75 per pack in state taxes, a jump from the previous tax of $1.50. Before the new tax, the average price of a pack of cigarettes was $5.82 statewide, and about $8 a pack in New York City, which levies its own taxes, Daines said. The new retail price for a pack in the city could now soar past $10 depending on the store.

An estimated 140,000 New Yorkers will stop smoking with this tax increase, Daines said. That number is based on prior tax increases and cigarette consumption.

"Youth are particularly sensitive to the price of cigarettes, so this price increase is expected to prevent 243,000 youth from smoking," Daines said.

Daines said the tax increase is just one part of an $83 million anti-smoking effort that includes advertising and public service announcements, attempts to get tobacco consumption out of youth rated movies and cessation centers around the state.

"What we really want people to do is not to pay the price, but to stop smoking," he said.

Audrey Silk, who heads NYC Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment, said it's ridiculous to expect smokers to quit just because the price is climbing. She switched to rolling her own cigarettes since the last New York City tax increase and suggests other smokers will find similar ways to satisfy nicotine cravings.

"No product has a tax at this rate on it," Silk said. "If there was, there would be screaming, but since we've been beaten into submission and nobody listens to us, what else is there to do? It's unjustifiable and you turn to alternatives, and any consumer group would do the same."

Convenience stores, which historically count on cigarette sales, have also objected to the tax, saying it will drive smokers - and dollars - elsewhere.

"The tax increase is only going to feed that epidemic," said Jim Calvin, president of the New York Association of Convenience Stores. "More and more smokers in New York state are going to abandon our stores that have to charge the tax and shift their purchases to places that don't charge the tax, most notably Native American stores, the Internet and bootleggers."

[michellem99-2009]

I hate cigs. It has gotten worse as they put krap in them to keep them smoking. Sure tax them. I have known smokers that became ex smokers as they have COPD. They were forced to due to the health issues smoking cause.

[joechemo]

Keithle1 don''t forget:impotence, cancers, heart disease, yellow teeth, increased recovery time from surgery, social isolation, etc.

[tomanyt]

Health Commissioner Says $1.25 Per Pack Increase Is A "Public Health Victory"
How is that a public health "victory"?????

[skinnyminny2]

And health issues aside, they reek. The next smoker who breathes their smoker breath on me is going to get a face full of vomit because I''m going to throw up on them.

[skinnyminny2]

I wouldn''t care about smoking if smokers would only stop exhaling--or if they''d have some kind of magic bubble around them keeping the smoke inside. Let them smoke themsleves to death. I don''t care about them, their health or their personal choice to smoke. Just don''t breathe by me.

[steelmonkey5]

I don''t mind this tax anymore as I quit smoking a while back. I hope they start raising the taxes on; Starbuck''s Lattes, lobster, and anything that has high fructose in it, any vehicle that doesn''t get at least 25 miles to the gallon, any house or condo over 2000 sq.ft. and if you make over $250,000, I hope they take take 75% of it, and while were at it, more than one child, ballgame tickets, concert tickets, and anything else you might enjoy.

Then maybe, just maybe you all will get tired of it, and decide to do something about it.

[blackyowe]

Yes well we all pay for their health care when they get sick and run up huge bills. It causes everyone''s insurance to go up. Tax the living daylights out of the fools! Smokers are selfish. They inflict their stench on everyone else. By the way Obama smokes cigs. Go figure.

[keithle1]

$10 or more a pack in NYC! What''s that work out to? 50 cents a cigarette?

Women with "smoker face." Eeeeeeeewwwwwww. Idiots standing outside in the freezing cold puffing away. Coughing their lungs out. Clothes & hair stink. Emphysema.

[grammawhamma]

ralan40: Exactly. I used this example before and I''ll use it again.

Put 50 chain smokers in a closed garage for one hour...they will all walk out when the door is opened.

Put 50 non smokers and one running car in a closed garage for one hour...all 50 will be dead when the door is opened.

[ralan40]

...just how much cleaner is that NY air going to be if they just get rid of all the smokers????
I''d rather have a smoker in my house than a running car.

[michellem99-2009]

Gramma,
Dear they have a tax om all sin item here.
They are
all smoking items
booze beer wine
soda pop
candy
chips
they are taxxed.
The gov signed it.

[killface7]

So Stop Smoking Already!

[sjw1253]

I say "HIGHER!!!" and please - all 49 other states and all other countries... Follow suit!!!

There is nothing democratic about smoking... Smokers have a wrongful sense of entitlement in that they are under the illusion that their rights to smoke outweigh a nonsmokers'' rights to breathe less polluted air!!!

TAX ON!!! I celebrate and toast the state of New York!!! YAY!!! :-)

[gmond]

Yep, pot is now officially cheaper than cigarettes...

[my2centss]

Yet another liberal tax on the poor and middle class. Just think, these same people claim its the rich they want to tax. Maybe we should not judge a politician by their promises.

[one-american]

"The taxing of the cigarettes is not democratic - look who is approving it! Bloomberg and new gov - repubs"

Posted by zoe2006 at 05:36 PM : Jun 03, 2008


Bloomberg is no Republican...not by a long shot!

[cyberus-2009]

ROFL .. I just realized that every time they do this the sale of smokes drop and they claim a "health" victory .. when the drop is sales is balanced out outside the extreme tax zone.

[grammawhamma]

Why is it only cigarettes that are taxed to the max and not other tobacco products? All tobacco causes cancer.

[dogsoul]

"Stupid a_s. He is excited about an unfair dicrininatory tax on the poor mostly that he won''''t be paying. "

That''s a good point - these kinds of ''sin taxes'' tend to be VERY regressive in nature.... Of course, you don''t see any of these states looking to stop their OWN gambling & lottery efforts do you? Gambling is addictive & dangerous - and it''s usually poor people who end up throwing what money that DO have away on those things....

[dogsoul]

"What we really want people to do is not to pay the price, but to stop smoking," he said.

Then ban smoking - or why not make it $7,000 per pack?

The hypocrisy of trying to ''help'' you quit by legislating huge taxes is ridiculous. I don''t smoke anymore, but even when I did - I would have preferred they outright BAN it rather than continue on with this charade. Like the other poster noted, if they''re SO concerned about public health - why not dedicate all that EXTRA tax revenue to smoking cessation programs instead of plugging budget gaps or building stadiums noone can smoke in? They''re exploiting addicted people - plain & simple. So why not come right out & BAN it? Because THEN everyone ELSE will have to fork over more money - because THEN they''ll lose their thinly veiled guise of maintaining individual freedoms - because THEN they''ll usher in a prohibition style criminal market - because THEN it''ll be seen for what it truly is...

And for all you non smokers who don''t care one BIT because it doesn''t affect you? Do you or does anyone you care about consume, expose yourself to, or get involved in ANYthing that could be deemed of an ''unhealthy'' nature? Alcohol? Overweight? Casual s*x? Lack of excercise? Gambling? Are they raising their kids in the perfect way? Don''t think it''ll come to that? Well - no smoking in bars was a joke not too long ago....