June 3, 2008
Where Will Sen. Clinton's Supporters Turn?
Katie Couric Speaks With Seven Clinton Supporters About The Campaign
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Was Hillary Treated Unfairly?
Katie Couric leads a roundtable discussion about how sexism played a part in the way Hillary Clinton was treated during the race for the Democratic nomination.
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Eye To Eye: Clinton Roundtable
"Only On The Web": Katie Couric leads a group of female Hillary Clinton supporters in a roundtable discussion about how she was treated by her rivals and the media during her presidential campaign.
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As Katie Couric speaks to a group of Pennsylvania Hillary Clinton supporters, Sandra Miller speaks. (CBS)
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Hillary Clinton
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Hillary Rodham Clinton
The Democratic Senator from New York and former first lady sets her sights on the White House.
Women voters helped propel her to a big win in Pennsylvania. CBS News anchor Katie Couric asked seven Clinton supporters from that battleground state how they feel about the campaign, and what they're thinking now. What follows is a partial transcript of the conversation.
Sandra Miller, former county commissioner: I think from the very beginning she’s been mistreated. I know - I watched a lot of interviews and so forth where Sen. Clinton was referred to as "Mrs. Clinton" whereas Sen. Obama was "Sen. Obama."
Meredith Ciambrello, teacher: It bothers me to think with the kind of coverage that we've had, that we’re speaking of, that it's influencing the voters. And when I talk to young men or other young women and they say, "I hate Hillary" and just the venom that comes out of them. And I wonder where is that coming from.
Kathleen O'Dell, sales manager: I think we have a little different standard with sexism than we do with, say, racism. I mean there have been people who go to their rallies and stand up - the guy who stood up and said, "hey, iron my shirt.” Now consider that if somebody had showed up at an Obama campaign and had a banner saying something about his race or about somebody's religion, we’d be up in arms. Everybody would be like, "how disgusting."
Katie Couric: What do you wish she had done differently?
O'Dell: First of all, I think she underestimated Obama tremendously, the mood of the country. She picked people who were very loyal to her, who weren’t maybe as savvy at running caucus states. The Internet. I think she got killed on the Internet.
Couric: Some people have said that, if she couldn’t run a better campaign, if she couldn’t surround herself with better people ... during the process, what does that portend for her ability to run the country?
Debbie Pellen, stay-at-home mother: I think it’s a fair comment but some of the people he seems to be surrounding himself with I think they are great PR people but I don’t think that’s a good indication of how they’re going to be with policy.
O'Dell: I hate to say it. How these campaigns are run I think does give you a pretty good idea of how they’re going to be in the White House.
Couric: If Hillary Clinton gets out of the race, what then?
Jennifer Miller, art instructor: I’ll vote for Barack Obama if Hillary doesn’t get in.
Doreen Ruffe, stay-at-home mom: I am thinking that but I would have to see what happens between now and November.
Daphne Mroz, executive assistant: I will definitely vote for another Democrat in the office.
O'Dell: Right now, I’m staying home. I don’t want to be taken for granted. I can’t hope that we change.
Pellen: I will definitely vote for Obama, but I don’t want her to get out. I respect the fact that she’s in and she’s fighting and, you know what, people have said, "get out, get out," and, you know what, it even makes her stronger that she’s not going to roll over. I mean, this is who I want fighting for me.
Couric: What about your husband, Debbie?
Pellen: My husband will look at it and say, "but we’re at wa,r Deb." And you know what? This person is untested. At least somebody has a record. He has a record versus no record.
Couric: And your husband is a Democrat?
Pellen: Democrat, registered Democrat.
Couric: Do you know any Hillary Clinton supporters who would be so angry about the outcome, and about the way she’s been treated that they would opt to vote for John McCain, almost as a protest?
Sandra Miller: Absolutely. That anger is just building and building. They have expressed to me that if she is not the candidate they will vote for McCain, just to vent that anger. Will they say that publicly? Probably not.
Couric: What has Hillary Clinton’s candidacy taught you?
Jennifer Miller: We still have a long ways to go when it comes to sexism and we will have a female president in the near future.
Sandra Miller: I would disagree that we’re going to have another female candidate - or a female president - in the near future if Sen. Clinton is not successful.
Mroz: If she does not win this time, I don’t know when - at least it won’t happen in my lifetime - when there would be any other candidate as well-qualified.
Ruffe: In terms of the sexism, I try to stay away from that. I try to teach my three kids you can do anything you want. And my oldest wanted to be president when she was six. I keep saying you can.
O'Dell: I think we have come really far. I mean, we are this close. And if it wasn’t for this other really great story, she would be the nominee.
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See all 102 CommentsIdiot. The country started circling the drain in 2000. Obama will be a huge improvement.
The exodus proves these laws are working? A federal law clarifies that illegal families will leave this nation of their own accord. America cannot afford Barack Obama, Mrs Clinton or John McCain passing another AMNESTY. If passed millions more will try to cross our border.
And for those supporters who had their feelings hurt and choose to vote for McCain? They weren''t true Democrats in the first place.
But why the labels? Aren''t we Americans first of all?
Mike Boyd beaten with bricks by a gang, 15 years old!
Severo Enriquez 14 years old, shot 5 times in the back by Gangs.
Obama voted against the death penalty for gang members killing children.
What will happen to Americas children?
Mike Boyd beaten with bricks by a gang, 15 years old!
Severo Enriquez 14 years old, shot 5 times in the back by Gangs.
Obama voted against the death penalty for gang members killing children.
What will happen to Americas children?
Obama cannot deal with City terrorism!
There are poor people in this country and we need to be taken care of better. I been going to school for ten years because they said that it will help me quilify for more assistance, but thay still ain''t giving me enough. The earned income tax credit is not enough to buy nice things with. It needs to be increased. Yote Obama please, he came to our church and promised to help us, will you do your part and vote for him. Thank you, Vote for Obama
For my part, there are no ill feelings - I was not a die-hard Hillary supporter, but I did choose to vote for her after listening to her. But honestly, there were many excellent Democrat candidates this election cycle. I felt, and still feel, that the Democrats (unlike the Republicans) have an embarassment of riches when it comes to talent.
I remain an admirer of Hillary. She won''t disappear. I look forward to future leadership from her (whether in the Senate or in the new administration) to help get us out of this mess.
This is so much NOT like the McCain offering. I could be wrong, and good-guy John McC might actually get elected. But where, O where could McCain find untainted people to fill his administration? Even if he successfully breaks with Bush-Cheney, the Republican K-street connection wouldn''t be easy for him to overcome.
Another thought, while this post is not intended to infuriate anyone, or influence anyone to vote for one candidate over another; can we all agree that the popular vote is the way our forefathers intended it. I''m guessing that if the stone carvings on Mt. Rushmore could express themselves over super delegates today, it would reflect shock and outrage. I do not believe that super delegates should make a decision for the American people when we are so closely divided between a party. Just food for thought, after all it will take time to know just which candidate will accomplish the most for the U.S. people while in office, and God knows how much we are in need.
Hillary, hang in there, take it to the convention!!! don''t do a Susan B on us women. Even if Bill is part of the package-goddess help us-Obama is not the answer not now!!!
Let her know who you are by sticking by her side. Do not let Ossama, I mean Obama claim this. Why don''t they just let the voters decide who is to be President by putting everyone on the ballot. Why is there Super-Delegates anyway?
Posted by lindamary195
Didn''t you mean to say "IF he decides to end this war that there will be money for free health care."
I don''t trust him. I trust the Clinton''s. So what Bill got his groove on in the ovary, I mean Oval office! He was the man! If Obama wins the "WHITE" house the K.K.K. already said he would be assasinated. If Hillary is V.P. then we win. So what if it is by default. Would it be so bad to have a womans touch on this country. So many of us trust them to run the households of America. Let her run the WHITE HOUSE!
Nazi (Delusional-Crying) Hillary and X-cess Baggage Nazi (racist) Bill
Back to : The Republican NAZI Party - Where They Originally Came from ! !
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Nazi (Delusional-Crying) Hillary and X-cess Baggage Nazi (racist) Bill
Will Now Need a PRESIDENTIAL PARDON for : Their own CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
Including and All of Their CRIMINAL Friends in : The Bush NAZI Regime
and Their CRIMINAL Cohort Friends in Criminal Corporate NAZI America
Any Corporation or POLITICAL INFLUENCE
That has Supported and Assisted in The Achievement of :
PURPOSELY and INTENTIONALLY __ DESTROYING
The INFRASTRUCTURE of The United States is an : Act of TREASON
TREASON is __ A CRIMINAL ACT !
Nazi (Delusional-Crying) Hillary and X-cess Baggage Nazi (racist) Bill
and - Criminal Corporate NAZI America
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TRAITORS
DEMOCRATIC PARTY DESTROYERS
JOB DESTROYER
WAGE PACKAGE DESTROYER
HEALTH CARE BENEFIT DESTROYER
WORKING MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA DESTROYER
FAMILY UNIT DESTROYER
HOME OWNERSHIP DESTROYER
CREDIT DESTROYER
AMERICAN ECONOMY DESTROYER
DEMOCRACY DESTROYER
The PATRIOTIC Gift of :
NAZI (Delusional-Crying) Hillary - X-cess Baggage NAZI (racist) Bill
and Criminal Corporate (NAZI) America
To The People of the World
SLAVE LABOR and CHILD FORCED SLAVE LABOR
To The AMERICAN PEOPLE
ONE WORLD NAZI FASCIST (Criminal Corporate) RULE
TREASON is __ A CRIMINAL ACT
What if Hillary did as Joe did?
Please stop taking drugs.
Now we have pollsters coming out of the woodwork dividing us into statistics, such as old people holding everybody back; young people anxious to move on but not really knowing where; the educated who think they are elite; blacks who hate racism, but have become what they hate; poor people bitter; clinging to religion and guns, and the remaining few souls are running away from pollsters who must find them and classify them.
Notice how the media loves Pollsters. Between the two they are working 24/7 to make sure you are found and catagorized.
Is it no wonder we are divided? Have the pollsters found you? If so, have you been assigned to a catagory?
McCain 2008!!
Bullyforhim - Read a book, listen to the news, reflect and educate yourself...then comment. You jumped over the first 4 steps of having intelligent conversation.
isondemuse - Your right. Based on how the candidates ran the campaign will show how the run the White House. Hillary ran her campaign the same as campaigns have always been run, bringing in the same folks, collecting corporate money, not planning for the not so obvious (going beyond Super Tuesday) and apparently not understanding how best to work the system. Barak''s campaign was funded by grassroots efforts where the people contributed millions of dollars. Isn''t grassroots how Democracy is supposed to work. All that corporate money is not free, that is how the lobbyist get in the door. I should mention that I like Hillary, but she was outsmarted, outplayed and outmanuevered in this campaign. Don''t we want a leader who can do that to an intelligent person like Hillary Clinton? His waiting to speak on some issues was genius. He saw what the people needed and gave it to them when they needed. Their positions are similar. The ability to sway the public is a necessity, we can only hope that we are not being swayed in the wrong directin no matter who is in office. How can we judge Barak, without giving him a chance to do anything. Barak also things he can change thinks for the better, so does every presidential candidate...
Gosh Mr. The way you criticize and condescend could you be one of the elite the Pollsters have categorized? If so; how do I get to be as impressive as you? Can''t wait to experience your elitist answer.
According to the United Jewish Community Obama is having problems winning the trust of Jewish Americans. Care to elaborate why that might be?
Also, you made a comment characterizing this election as having significant importance; I thought all elections are very important. Why is this election more important than all the very important election of the past?
These crazies are why Republicans will eventually take back Congress and keep the White House. Tough sh*t dems. ROFLMAO
The comment about no woman ever being as qualified cracks me up! The first woman President will happen in the next 20 years, she will be a Republican, and she will be 10 times more qualified than Sen. Sleazy.
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