Ex-WH Press Secretary Critiques Book
Katie Couric Asks Ari Fleischer About Thoughts, Accusations In Former Colleague's Memoir
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Play CBS Video Video Ari Fleischer On McClellan Katie Couric speaks with former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer about the controversy swirling around his successor Scott McClellan's tell-all book.
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Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer speaks to Katie Couric about his former colleague Scott McClellan's explosive new memoir. (CBS)
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Couric: Ari, what do you think of this book and the charges made in it?
Fleischer: Well I'm stumped and I'm stunned by it, Katie. Because never did Scott ever come to me privately and express any of these thoughts. Neither did he harbor any hesitation when he was the press secretary, so I really don't know led to this new revelation.
Couric: Well, does that mean he didn't necessarily have these feelings, and perhaps was too timid to express them?
Fleischer: Or some of it came up very recently in the last several months and I'm looking forward to hearing from Scott, why - what could have led him to change 180 degrees so dramatically.
Couric: A lot of people seem to saying in response to this book that this doesn't sound like the Scott McClellan they knew. Let's take a listen...
(From video) Former deputy White House chief of staff Karl Rove said: "This doesn't sound like Scott. It really doesn't. Not the Scott McClellan I've known for a long time."
And former presidential counselor Dan Bartlett said in an interview today: "He's like a fundamentally different person than all of us knew."
"The voice that comes out of the book is certainly not Scott McClellan's," said Trent Duffy, who served as McClellan's deputy.
Couric: With all due respect, Ari, it sounds like all of you are operating out of the same playbook. Did you get together and discuss how to respond to this?
Fleischer: No, I think it's just that we all worked shoulder to shoulder with Scott for so long. And we never heard Scott talk about manipulation, talk about propaganda. And I did talk to Scott yesterday, Katie, and Scott told me that his editor did tweak, in Scott's word, a lot of the writing - especially in the last few months. And so I'm curious to hear, when Scott does his interviews, does he use the word manipulation, will he say propaganda, is he comfortable ... orally - matching what he's written in this book?
Couric: Members of the administration always said there were definitely weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Not that there were reports of weapons, not that people believed there were weapons. Looking back on it, wasn't that a mistake?
Fleischer: Katie, if the CIA tells you there are definitely weapons of mass destruction, all you can do is repeat what they tell you. I think we would have looked funny and suspicious of we had said something other than we had been told. Why aren't you leveling with the American people? Why aren't you telling ... everything the CIA is telling you? That's the most troubling part to me. The CIA was wrong about what Saddam had. I hope now they're right about Iran is doing or not doing. That to me is the troubling issue.
Couric: As you well know, the president has very low approval ratings at this juncture. How do you think this will affect the way he is viewed by the American people?
Fleischer: Well, I'm sorry to say I think the president's numbers are baked into the cake, and this book won't change the numbers one way or the other. All those who dislike him already dislike him, and the few people - the 30 percent left that approve his job - I think they're pretty unshakable and nothing's gonna change that.
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- Why hasn''t Bush been impeached yet?
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- I only wish Dan Rather did this interview, than maybe we might learn something.
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- When Fleisher said the CIA "definitely" said there were weapons of mass destruction, why did she let him get away with that statement. Woodward has said that Cheney edited the CIA statement until it said what he wanted. So the CIA didn''t "definitely" say that. Cheney did. McClelan critized the press for not asking more questions and said so on your network and then you go and prove him right.
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- Why is it that those that follow and swallow are hard workers but if they complain they are disgruntled?
Has anyone here ever felt or been harrassed?
That could explain a lot. - Reply to this comment
- Bush should be tried for murder after he is out of office.
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- Just a few days after Ari Fleischer left his job, CNN (I think) presented a nice montage of footage that shows (on camera) Fleischer lying 22 times to the press from the podium. For him to say anything at all at this point in a waste of Katie Couric''s time.
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- Ari says he is surprised Scott wrote the book, but he never says SCOTT IS A LIAR!!
This book must be pretty close to the truth. - Reply to this comment
- Disgruntled, patriotic. Tomatoe, tomato.
This is not news to those who''ve been paying attention, but it''s good to see a further rounding out of the picture.
It will take decades to undo the damage this administration has done. The fact that the hard-core Republican wing still fully approves of what has been done to is is a stunning indictment of where the Republican Party has left the path. - Reply to this comment
- Fleischer: Well, I''m sorry to say I think the president''s numbers are baked into the cake, and this book won''t change the numbers one way or the other. All those who dislike him already dislike him, and the few people - the 30 percent left that approve his job - I think they''re pretty unshakable and nothing''s gonna change that.
A honest statement... for what it''s worth.... - Reply to this comment
- Given the shock and disbelief expressed by former press secretary Ari Fleischer -- a close, trusted, long-term, and faithful servant of the President, and the disclosure that the editor "tweaked" much of Scott''''s writing - maybe there is another side to this story. But don''''t tell that to the legions of Bush-haters.
---Posted by erichsh at 11:45 PM : May 28, 2008
Where one Fmr. Bush Press Secretary broke from the talking points another Fmr. Bush Press Secretary tried to put it back on the party line.
Fleischer should drop the spin and write a book of his own. - Reply to this comment
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This Evil Sect has Destroyed Our Once Proud Nation
Once we were a colony,..then we became a World Power,respected by friends and foes Alike
Quickly we are returned to our days as a colony
Led by a King who can`t possibly pass a GED
We have lost the respect of our own and the rest of the world,a hybrid clown bred with Pinocchio ,W will go down in history as the Most Corrupt,Inept resident to Occupy the White House.His " Stink Tank " included a bevy of Criminals,Yes-Men and Loyal ''''''''Corporate Henchmen. Together,this sect of Re-Cons bankrupted our nation`s future while bankrolling billions of our tax dollars.This Sect Must be Eradicated ! BAN ALL Re-Cons ! "Insanity" Keep doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results "
RE-CONS Are the ROOT of ALL EVIL !!!! - Reply to this comment
- Given the shock and disbelief expressed by former press secretary Ari Fleischer -- a close, trusted, long-term, and faithful servant of the President, and the disclosure that the editor "tweaked" much of Scott''s writing - maybe there is another side to this story. But don''t tell that to the legions of Bush-haters.
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- This week at the Air Force Academy commencement in Colorado President Bush said the following:
"To win the first war of the 21st century we need to previel. Not just in battle of arms, but also in the battle of wills. And we need to recognized that the only way America can loose the ''war on terror'' is if we defeat ourselves."
Given the reported revelations former press secretary Scott McClellean -- a close, trusted, long-term, and faithful servant of the President -- it is sad Mr. Bush and his admistration has done exactly that. This administration defeated our nation and the world by manufacturing false pretense for war and then unashamedly selling Congress and the American public on fable that war in Iraq was necessary. When Bush at the first drumbeat of war surrendered America''s morality our nation lost the Iraq war regardless of the outcome on the ground. The loss of trust and respect by allies; military lives needlessly slaughered; our nation''s pride wounded on the battlefield; the mortgage of our future and loss of treasury; - Reply to this comment
- I really would like to read what the BLOGGERS answer to this story..very much like what they did during the Pres
national guard stint during the Vietnam war era. - Reply to this comment
- The reason my friends and I watch Katie Couric and the CBS Evening news every week night is what we perceive as her news person integrity. Her comments on the Today Show regarding the responsibility that major news outlets had to vigorously investigate the Bush administration''s rationale of going to war with Iraq only substantiate our confidence in her integrity. We especially appreciate the questions she asks of correspondents during the broadcast. She is in a fine class by herself.
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- AND CONGRESS SHOULD BE SAYING, IMPEACH THESE SCUM BAGS
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- O.K. IF IT ALL LIES LETS SEE BUSH AND COMPANY SUE THIS GUY, IF THEY DONT, WELL WELL. I GUESS IT ALL TRUE LIKE I HAVE SAID FROM 2001
THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO TELL THE TRUE ON ANYTHING... - Reply to this comment
- Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that President Bush relied on an aggressive "political propaganda campaign" instead of the truth to sell the Iraq war, it has been reported.
The Bush White House made "a decision to turn away from candor and honesty when those qualities were most needed" - a time when the nation was on the brink of war, McClellan writes in the book entitled "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington''''''''''''''''s Culture of Deception."
The way Mr. Bush managed the Iraq issue "almost guaranteed that the use of force would become the only feasible option," the book contends, according to accounts Wednesday in The New York Times and Washington Post.
"In the permanent campaign era, it was all about manipulating sources of public opinion to the president''''''''''''''''s advantage," McClellan writes.
White House aides seemed stunned by the scathing tone of the book, and Bush press secretary Dana Perino issued a statement that was highly critical of their former colleague.
"Scott, we now know, is disgruntled about his experience at the White House," she said. "For those of us who fully supported him, before, during and after he was press secretary, we are puzzled. It is sad - this is not the Scott we knew." its call, under cover to make millions on you all, all the while laughing at all you suckers, dana
Perino said . the president said oh well, the truth hurts for a second, see all better now. - Reply to this comment
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