May 27, 2008

Hillary Clinton, Please Exit With Dignity

The Nation: She Should Drop Out Of The Race On June 4

  • Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks at a Memorial Day event in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Monday, May 26, 2008. Photo

    Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks at a Memorial Day event in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Monday, May 26, 2008.  (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

(The Nation)  This column was written by Katrina vanden Heuvel.
Check out CNN.com for Bill Clinton's vent about how a "cover up" is hurting Hillary Clinton's chances of becoming the Democratic nominee. This is a man who has trampled on his spouse's voice every time, in this campaign, that she's found it.

The women of The Nation are the first to deplore the sexism in media commentary this primary season, but a "cover up"?

Hillary Clinton started this race last year as the one to beat--she had the money, the machine and the name recognition that assured her of quasi-incumbent status. And, indeed, she ran as a quasi-incumbent, an establishment candidate in a change-year election. Yes, there were the Chris Matthews and the Tucker Carlsons and the Mike Barnicles and the Rush Limbaughs and the women who were working out their Clinton hatred through Hillary's candidacy.

Betsy Reed's superb May 19th cover story, "Race to the Bottom: How Hillary Clinton's Campaign Has Divided the Feminist Movement," documents those sexist remarks--and explains how Clinton's campaign has divided the feminist movement. But Clinton's losses cannot be attributed solely or largely to a sexism that still runs deep in our political culture.

Clinton made the mistake of running a top-down campaign in a rules-changing year, and acceding to a sexism within her campaign that advised her not to apologize for her disastrous vote supporting Bush's war resolution. Yes, she was in charge. She could have rejected the guys' advice. But Clinton appears to have bought into the idea that a Commander-in-Chief has to play by "men's rules"--and be tougher than the toughest. If she'd been smart and right, not strong and wrong, how in her right mind would she not have said, I made a mistake when I accepted the word of a man who, it is now widely accepted (except in FoxLand), lied us into a war that has gravely undermined the US's security? John Edwards managed to issue an apology--and he was dueling with a media that had pegged him as "the Breck Girl." Could it be that macho boys like Mark Penn and Bill Clinton counseled Hillary that if she issued honest regret she wouldn't be macho enough to be treated as a serious Commander-in-Chief?

If Clinton had listened to alternative voices --if there'd be some "woman- common-sense" over in her campaign--they might have suggested that she reframe what a commander-in-chief for the 21st century means. That what's needed to deal with the challenges of this world is not more militarism and macho swagger, but a commitment to smart, principled use of non-military tools. After all, how does military might address genocidal conflicts? Or the worst pandemic in world history (AIDS)? Or staggering and destabilizing global inequality? Or, for that matter, the spread of weapons of mass destruction?

Hillary might even have given a speech about what it would mean to elect the first women president. She might have given a superb gender speech--one that people, generations to come, might be talking about just as they will be talking about Barack Obama's magnificent speech on race. But she chose not to. Instead, Clinton chose a different route. And while, on some level, I like Clinton's "I'm fighting for you" persona, and her fighter instinct, that stance came too late in the campaign and needed an anchor in a larger fight than the fate and future of her campaign.

So, opportunities lost, squandered. So, it is with sadness that one watches these last days of what began as an energizing and historic campaign.

The last 72 hours of this campaign, I believe, have given renewed meaning to the term "move on." Ironically, that's a term that first gripped the national imagination at a very different moment in the Clintons' political history. It was in 1998, as rightwing forces converged on Bill Clinton, salivating about the possibility of impeaching a President for improprieties that, while grotesque, never rose to an impeachable offense, that the rules-changing internet operation MoveOn emerged on our national landscape.

It is now time to move on, again. That is not to say that Hillary Clinton doesn't have every right to campaign through the last primaries on June 3. After all, it's been a long time since millions of citizens were participants-- not simply spectators--in our mess of an election process. And that is exciting--as is the record-breaking turnout, the grassroots mobilization and registration of new and once-alienated voters in this campaign.

But when the polls close on June 3, superdelegates should move, expeditiously, to make their decision so that this campaign can refocus on what is at stake in this defining election. And their decision should follow the will of the people--that is, the pledged delegates who are the backbone of a party that --under Howard Dean has crafted a spirited fifty-state strategy seeking to connect with ordinary Americans in every part of this country. That decision, to follow the will of the pledged delegates is in sync with a party that should see its future linked to throwing off the establishment mantle that is truly elitist. After all, as The Nation's Ari Berman has reminded us in his close reporting on the delegate race this charged season, those supers were created as a firewall to protect the party establishment.

And at the end of the day, while Hillary Clinton has the grit, she ain't got the numbers. And the longer her fight drags on--with outlandish attempts to equate the status of the Michigan and Florida delegations with the fraudulent Zimbabwean elections or with the fraudulent Florida recount of 2000--the greater the disservice to the party, the people and the country.

Bill Clinton liked to say-and let me paraphrase-- we are a country in which people who play by the rules should get ahead.

The rules were the rules when the DNC laid them down to all the campaigns. At the time, the Clinton team, like all the others, agreed to abide by them. The rules are rules. Yet, in these last days, with Bill Clinton out there crying "coverup," it's as if Team Clinton has moved the goalposts so often, they're not even in the ballpark--they're somewhere out in the parking lot.

We have big issues and big differences to thrash out in this election. On June 4, I hope Hillary Clinton exits this historic race, gracefully, with dignity. That exit should win her the respect due her from all those in the Democratic party, whether they are Hillary or Barack supporters. It is an exit that is in the interest of the party and the nation. And she must know that how she exits will define the winner in November 2008.

It is time to for this election to turn to the defining issues.


By Katrina vanden Heuvel
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.



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by iamthequeen- May 27, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
I really don''t understand the "superdelegates must follow the pledged delegates" explanation for Clinton to drop out. Why is Kennedy (if he dies does his vote still count?), Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, and the numerous superdelegates from states that Clinton WON allowed to support Obama yet all h*ll is supposed to break loose if the remaining superdelegates throw their support to Clinton. Obama is NOT playing by the rules if he uses this hypocritical argument for being the "anointed" nominee via the pledged delegates.
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by wwsword May 27, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
I have been pointing out the same contradiction, iamthequeen, but you have to understand that the media establishment is in the tank for Obama. The arguments that tell a different story about this election are ignored or downplayed because the corporate media has a goal: to nominate Barack Obama as the Democrat''s candidate.

As for the essay to which our comments are affixed, the author departs from speculation as fact and is either ignorant of or ignores expressed regret and bias. But, then, this is keeping with the pattern.
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by jaybs3 May 27, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
Hillary is fast becoming the "Norma Desmond (Sunset Boulevard)" of Politics, a past fading star, the audience is leaving fast except the fanatical fans and she still thinks "The Show Must Go On" - you could laugh, but it is just so Sad to see someone lose all reality in life like Hillary and Bill have done, they both could have done what is right and they would have gained even more respect, but no they choose the path that will end there political influence and career, what could Hillary do now??
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by gaiaschild-2009 May 27, 2008 12:51 PM PDT
what dignity? after saturday when the rules committee decides, the clintons will initiate litigation that will buy time for her to continue the energizer bunny obsession through the convention. polarizing? reckless? destructive? selfish? irresponsible? o gee, maybe we should let her be president because we feel sorry for her?
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by sarcasticstu May 27, 2008 12:52 PM PDT
You guys are missing an obvious point: superdelegates are not equally distributed throughout the US. If all superdelegates vote based on their geographic location, it''s not balanced.

The point of the superdelegates is to overrule the voters if they screw up, like if the people nominate a murderer or something that nobody will vote for. In this case, there''s not a huge difference between the two candidates and there''s truly no reason to overrule the voters. The only thing that could come of that is pissing off a majority (yes a majority) of voters and 90% of black voters.
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by ryan2481 May 27, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
"The media establishment is in the tank for Obama?" Really? The same media that anointed Hillary the "inevitable" choice before a single primary had been held? The same media that jumped on the Jeremiah Wright story and kept playing the same snippets of his worst sermons hour after hour? The same media that asked "is Obama done?" after Hillary won Pennsylvania? Wow, they sure have a funny way of showing loyalty to the candidate they''re supposedly "in the tank" for.
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by rashidah1 May 27, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
Amen! I''m not sure how much dignity she still posesses, but every day past June 4th will minimize it further.
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by ryan2481 May 27, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
"The media establishment is in the tank for Obama?" Really? The same media that anointed Hillary the "inevitable" choice before a single primary had been held? The same media that jumped on the Jeremiah Wright story and kept playing the same snippets of his worst sermons hour after hour? The same media that asked "is Obama done?" after Hillary won Pennsylvania? Wow, they sure have a funny way of showing loyalty to the candidate they''re supposedly "in the tank" for.
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by timeotron May 27, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
Let the TimeOtron take you back to the good O''l days of yesteryear, lest you forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQkH3-AHBM
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by frwalters May 27, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
When is Hillary going to finally figure out that her moment in the spotlight is OVER and she is TOAST?!? Check out www.hillaryistoast.com and support the effort to send a message to her and everyone else!
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by rose1la May 27, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
Why is it just "woman-common-sense" to reframe what a commander-in-chief for the 21st century means - "to understand that what''s needed to deal with the challenges of this world is not more militarism and macho swagger, but a commitment to smart, principled use of non-military tools?" I don''t understand what gender has to do with common sense. This is the same idea that Obama has been campaiging on. I''m in full support of gender equality, but I do think that women have tried to have it both ways in this campaign. Clinton wants to be one of the macho guys, and then cries about being bullied because she''s a woman. Either you''re tough or you''re not; either you''re smart or you''re not -- it has nothing to do with gender. Clinton has promoted sexism in this campaign as much as anyone else has.
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by letherrun May 27, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
Not surprising that "The Nation" would be in the Obama category. A great news source, but one that rarely knows the line between blind idealism and what can actually be done at a given time/place. I still thinks she has an excellent argument to stay in the race: one that is based on the delegate rules (neither has enough "regular" delegates to get elected), and one that is based on NOT dis-enfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan. I hope the author of this article doesn''t mind eating the proverbial crow!
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by lonestarlaty May 27, 2008 1:17 PM PDT
My comment is that the Clintons have a very long history of not playing by the rules. It is ancient history that Jennifer Flowers was only a person brought up to discredit The Gov. from Ark. and so were numerous other women. We can appreciate his political savy, but his scruples have allows been in questions. He is the spouse of a person running for President of the USA.
I think that character is very important in this person. I do not believe that they have shown that.
I will acknowledge that they have been instrumental in the Democratic Party, that being said does not in affect give them carte blanche.
There is an issue pending in the Ca courts in regard to fund raising and it has been hushed up. It is bound to surface sooner or later and will also be a distraction during the General election.
Let''s get past the "Politic''s as Usual Scenerio" and see if we can keep our EYES on Nov. Try not to ignore all those millions of people that have a renewed interest in voting Black, White, Hispanic young and old and of course the Women over 50 (my niche). I remember the first time around and I can not get past it.
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by fred175 May 27, 2008 1:22 PM PDT
Hillary, (and bill), please---please---, pleasepleaseplease,---pleeeeease, go away.
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by shayjo-2009 May 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
Not surprising that "The Nation" would be in the Obama category. A great news source, but one that rarely knows the line between blind idealism and what can actually be done at a given time/place. I still thinks she has an excellent argument to stay in the race: one that is based on the delegate rules (neither has enough "regular" delegates to get elected), and one that is based on NOT dis-enfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan. I hope the author of this article doesn''''t mind eating the proverbial crow!

The race will be over by June 3rd and idealism and reality are quickly becoming the same thing. I think it is limiting to say that anyone who expresses the obvious is for or against one candidate. While it is true that neither can win the standing 2026 to win without the unplegded delegates (super delegates) intervention, I think it is fair to say that Mr. Obama has been successful in every bench mark so far: 1) Most states won
2) Most pledged delegates won
3) Surpassing in the popular vote and with in the past week,
4) More unpledged (SD) won as well.
The proverbial hand writing is on the wall. I think Clinton will be best judged by her exit than her continuance. However, if the two emerge to be the same, she will surely have a steep political career to regain.
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by tlhwraith May 27, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
I am a black man who would have voted for Hillary without regret just a couple of months ago, but unfortunately her insistance on doing everything in her power to remove the luster from her aura has made me rethink that. Is there sexism in politics, of course, but as the article so astutely points out, what killed Hillary is arrogance and infexibility, not sexism. She had every political tool and advantage one could ask for including a beloved ex-President as her chief surrogate, and she blew it. Her campaign was mismanaged on every level which explains how a campaign that at one time was breaknig fundraising records is now in the red. In the "final" analysis Hillary has demonstrated one thing and that isn''t that sexism did her in, it''s that she needs to seriously re-evaluate her management style because she ran a poor campaign overall, and I would dread having her as the democratic representative this cycle.
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by destardi May 27, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
BS!

If she leads in the Popular vote, the Superdelegates need to vote for her. Plain and simple, or Democrats will be chided for being major hypocrites after the 2000 debacle.

Democrats are losing face with this Obamination they''re forcing down our throats. Hillary Clinton has as many votes, and more than Obama.

By that fact, Obama''s own comments about how Superdelegates should vote the will of their constituencies, should be observed and Hillary would be in the lead if that were held to be the case.
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by destardi May 27, 2008 1:29 PM PDT
However, if the two emerge to be the same, she will surely have a steep political career to regain.


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Posted by shayjo at 01:24 PM : May 27, 2008
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Considering 17,000,000 people voted for Hillary Clinton, I hardly doubt her political career is in jeopardy.

Obama should be ashamed.
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by destardi May 27, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
With comments like these, who needs Democrats as friends?
Feb 4th
"New York State Senator Bill Perkins used quite explicit racial stereotyping in a speech aimed at discouraging his constituents from voting for Clinton by saying, Harlem "is not Bill Clinton''s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation."


I''m all set to vote Republican for the first time in my life in November; The dems are disgusting for this fraud they''re perpetrating on the party.

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by Mr_Technical_Dude May 27, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
In a county where I lived the effect of a Black candidate for Sheriff showed itself in various ways. One of those ways was an increase in reverse discrimination to the extent that even though he seemed the more qualified candidate the effect he had on other Blacks became too overwhelming for Whites. Maybe this is why Hillary is staying in the race.
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by Mr_Technical_Dude May 27, 2008 1:33 PM PDT
In a county where I lived the effect of a Black candidate for Sheriff showed itself in various ways. One of those ways was an increase in reverse discrimination to the extent that even though he seemed the more qualified candidate the effect he had on other Blacks became too overwhelming for Whites. Maybe this is why Hillary is staying in the race.
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by exaag May 27, 2008 1:35 PM PDT
Your article read well until you regurgitated the tripe about "Bush lied". (Oh yeah, this is CBS where Dan Rather uses forged docs..but "Bush lied"). For the last time..and for the benefit of the cognitively challenged ...if "Bush lied" so did Al Gore and the Clinton Administration , since it also felt that Saddam had WMD''s. The historical record will show (1) SAddam had poison gas and used it against civilian populations, (2) Saddam wanted the world to think he had WMD''s, and even lied to his own generals, (3) Saddam played, and lost, a cynical game here he misled the US and his neighbors (and, again, hiw own generals) into thinking he had WMD''s. To you dimwit democrats out there..Bush was misled, and being misled is not the same thing as being a liar. A liar, frankly, is a columnist who falsely accuses the President.
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by quatermass2 May 27, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
At what point does "hanging in there" become "denial of reality"? At best, Hillary Clinton is beginning to take on the air of stubborn refusal to acknowledge the facts that so permeates the Bush camp. I, for one, have no desire for (yet another) occupant of the White House who refuses to see or hear things that don''t fit with their own peculiar agendas.
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by ryanwest08 May 27, 2008 1:38 PM PDT
491 men, 149 women. That''s the number of men to women in The Nation''s bylines for all issues published in 2007.
http://thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2007/12/nation-featured-491-male-bylines-in.html

That''s not even 1/3 of women. When Ms. vanden Heuvel wants to address that, I''ll listen to anything she has to say as a ''feminist.'' Till then, I don''t need her posing.
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by shalterm May 27, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
Katrina, Get the facts straight. The "rightwing forces" didn''t impeach Clinton for "improprieties" that "while grotesque, never rose to an impeachable offense", they impeached him for lying to a Grand Jury.
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by notopennshut May 27, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
Exactly my sentiments!! Supported the Clintons throughout until they went astray and destroyed their own chances. Blaming the whole world now is only making it worse. Rules are rules, and no one is or should be above them, or try to change them when it does not fit your purpose. Anyone knowledgeable would know that it''s the delegates number that count (the rules rule!), and not the popular vote. EVen in the presidential election, it is the electoral vote. So those of you attempting to change the rules, "resist and desist" now. We are not Zimbabwe even as Billaries attempt to emulate it. If we want to change the rules for future elections, fine, but until then, ALL CURRENT rules should be obeyed and carried out, without rewards, but penalties for rules-breakers. Let us remain a law-abiding nation for God''s sake. Too many of them have been broken/over-ruled by GW and gang, and we as democrats surely do not need to follow in their path of destruction.
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by neil1785 May 27, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
The little boy is just playing grown up in a big world. Obama Hussien has no spine, no values. Not that Hillary has values, but at least she has experience and knowledge over him.

Being a starter Senator, Obama has the worst track record of all 3 candidates when it comes to getting back to the Senate to vote - he''s missed more votes than either McCain or Hillary. Kind of makes you think he only wanted that Senate seat as a stepping stone to the presidency.

www.dontvoteobama.com

Therefore, he does not deserve to become the President of the United States.
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by denisr3 May 27, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
Katrina wrote a nice article. If Hillary just presented herself as herself, she might have won. She missed her chance. It is now Obama''s turn.
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by egc52556-2009 May 27, 2008 1:45 PM PDT
Yes, this election was Clinton''s to lose. And she did.

Sure, there was sexism involved. As there was racism involved. And ageism. And anti-city-folk-ism. And anti-farm-folk-ism. And anti-war-ism. And anti-Moslem-ism. And anti-Semitism. And on and on and on.

That''s the world we live in. And in the end, Clinton lost by the rules she agreed to. No "cover up" can change the basic fact that politics isn''t tiddly-winks. As Clinton likes to say, "If you can''t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

That comment isn''t sexist. It was a comment invented for men long before women were viable in politics.
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by columbiabro May 27, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
To the writer of this article: The Clinton''s are hoping for a Sirhan Sirhan to save the day for them. They are that ruthless and evil. Why else would she have talked about RFK, unless the Final Solution was on her mind?
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by bluestardad May 27, 2008 1:53 PM PDT
HILLARY HAS PROVIDED AMERICA THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING CHARACTER AND BEING A CHARACTER!

SHE WILL SAY OR DO ANYTHING TO ACHIEVE HER GOAL!

BUT AMERICA SAW THRU HER AND HAVE ELECTED A TRUE LEADER IN OBAMA!
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by hissteps4u May 27, 2008 1:57 PM PDT
The Race is already over Clinton just refuses to acknowledge it. June 4th will indeed be her defining day! Will she do the right thing and step down? Or will she cause turmoil and discontent by refusing to do so after Obama who has already garnered the Majority of Pledged delegates as well as the Super delegate leads.

She can either help to unite the party of divide it into a fractured mess if she takes the fight to the convention.

I am a republican and would not vote for McCain if he was the last person standing he is to entrenched in the system and we truly need change in the dysfunctional government in Washington

Term Limits would go a long way to help clean up the political mess and quagmire in Washington. Why cant people see that? All they see is Power hungry members of congress doing much of the same which is precious little in reality. Vote for Term limits!!!!

It is time to change how Washington does business and bring back the citizen legislators of old. No more power hungry members. Do your term then retire and allow another to step in and do their part.

Washington and Jefferson saw this to their credit long ago why is it that folks can not see it today?
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by bhagwandeol May 27, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
to an outsider it sounds that obama has stolen the lection by sweet rhetoric.can americans be that ignorant that they will put the fate of this great nation in the hands of an inexperienced story teller.
. he will prove another jimmy carter. arabs will hate himbecause he will fail to deliver to their expectations that he having middle name hussien (most beloved name in muslims) israel will not trust him for the same reason. AFTER ALL HE WAS BORN AS A MUSLIM. SO HE LEFT THE RELIGION ACCORDING TO SHARIA LAWS HE MUST FACE DEATH SO HOW AND WHERE HE WILL FIT.
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by kman821 May 27, 2008 2:01 PM PDT
One cannot display something they don''t possess ... in Hillary''s case that would be dignity! She long ago gave up what little dignity she had left ... she remains a bitter old woman wallowing in her own self-serving delusion.
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by newyorkrebel May 27, 2008 2:05 PM PDT
Hillary needs to run as an Independent on a true Independent ticket with Liberman as her VP.

That ticket would smoke the ultra far left socialist-Islamo-facist ticket (Obama) and the RHINO ticket as well (McCain).

Love Hillary or hate her (and I hated her for many years), hands down, she is the most qualified to be President of the three who are running right now.

Given the choice between Obama, McCain and an independent ticket with Clinton/Liberman, I would give serious and real consideration to voting Clinton/Liberman.

The more the far left liberal media jumps on the Obama bandwagon and tells Hillary to quit, the more Clinton hating Republicans like me want to see her keep going just to stuff it in their elitist faces!
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by farthog May 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
The Hillary campaign was flawed from the beginning. Initially it was all Bill who did the talking. When hillary finally found her voice somewhere in New Hampshire, Bill came around trying to hide it from her. Hillary''s voice and Bill''s voice seemed to be like matter and anti-matter. They annihilate each other. Whenever Hillary opens her mouth and says something, Bill is not too far behind. Within a day or so, he will either say something stupid or will get red faced and wag his finger at everyone in the media and at Obama''s camp and at everything in sight that moves. Then everybody will be talking about whatBill said and forget about what Hillary had said. He always tries to outshine (or outdumb) her at every chance he gets. Not only that the way he treats her in public nowadays is as if she is some victim who needs consoling. This does not portray her as an independent woman. For the past few days the chatter on the wire is that Bill is trying to get her the veep position. Well it is always Bill, Bill, Bill. Never Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
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by PulSamsara May 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.
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by neil1785 May 27, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
The main reason why Jimmy Carter supports Obama is that he''s just as weak and sore loser as this muslim idiot. They share the same name -- BRENDA as in Brain Damage.
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by farthog May 27, 2008 2:08 PM PDT
The Hillary campaign was flawed from the beginning. Initially it was all Bill who did the talking. When hillary finally found her voice somewhere in New Hampshire, Bill came around trying to hide it from her. Hillary''s voice and Bill''s voice seemed to be like matter and anti-matter. They annihilate each other. Whenever Hillary opens her mouth and says something, Bill is not too far behind. Within a day or so, he will either say something stupid or will get red faced and wag his finger at everyone in the media and at Obama''s camp and at everything in sight that moves. Then everybody will be talking about whatBill said and forget about what Hillary had said. He always tries to outshine (or outdumb) her at every chance he gets. Not only that the way he treats her in public nowadays is as if she is some victim who needs consoling. This does not portray her as an independent woman. For the past few days the chatter on the wire is that Bill is trying to get her the veep position. Well it is always Bill, Bill, Bill. Never Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
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by conodog May 27, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
Why should she drop out? Her supporters expect her to run in the election at the convention in August. She has more popular votes than Obama. It would be a travesty to have the superdelegates overturn the will of the people. Hillary is the People''s Choice for the Democratic Nominee.
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by goldesprit May 27, 2008 2:10 PM PDT
"The Nation...if you like this article, check out..."
Hitler.

Clinton is running for President.
Obismal is trying to grt coronated by the republican pundets.

Even Nader is absolutely better than Barak.
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by KYJurisDoctor May 27, 2008 2:10 PM PDT
Ya''ll keep forgetting that BILLARY Clinton has NO shame!
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by dinslc May 27, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
Destard!,

Perhaps you should engage in some complex thought- or simple arithmetic.

Hillary''s claim of being ahead in the popular vote EXCLUDES EVERY SINGLE VOTER IN EVERY SINGLE CAUCUS STATE.

Hillary counts on uninformed people like you to lie to. Her popular vote claim is only true if you discount all the American voters who voted via their caucus. You are foolish to accept Hillary''s campaign lines without checking facts for yourself.
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by zorar-2009 May 27, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
Hillary08
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by neil1785 May 27, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
Barack Hussein Obama for President of the UNITED Arab Emirates.
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by zorar-2009 May 27, 2008 2:13 PM PDT
Most men are afraid of intelligent women especially on this blog!
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by truthspeake2 May 27, 2008 2:15 PM PDT
Clinton made the mistake of running a top-down campaign in a rules-changing year, and acceding to a sexism within her campaign that advised her not to apologize for her disastrous vote supporting Bush''s war resolution. Yes, she was in charge. She could have rejected the guys'' advice. But Clinton appears to have bought into the idea that a Commander-in-Chief has to play by "men''s rules"--and be tougher than the toughest. If she''d been smart and right, not strong and wrong, how in her right mind would she not have said, I made a mistake when I accepted the word of a man who, it is now widely accepted (except in FoxLand), lied us into a war that has gravely undermined the US''s security? John Edwards managed to issue an apology--and he was dueling with a media that had pegged him as "the Breck Girl." Could it be that macho boys like Mark Penn and Bill Clinton counseled Hillary that if she issued honest regret she wouldn''t be macho enough to be treated as a serious Commander-in-Chief?


Very well said...and I might add that is was this reason alone why I, a black male professional and life-long democrat, decided to switch my allegance from Hillary to Obama. And I would still vote for her if she wins the nimination. Any Democrat that would vote for John McSame doesn''t love the party or this country, period! Unfortunately, the Obama haters (racist sexists) just don''t get it!
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by ttdd3 May 27, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
You pro-Obama media ***** are still pathetic. You''d rather talk about Obama''s fantasy victory than Michigan and Florida.
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by dinslc May 27, 2008 2:18 PM PDT
let me repeat;

Hillary''s claim of being ahead in the popular vote is misleading, at best- deceitful at worst.

HILLARY DOES NOT COUNT ANY CAUCUS STATE VOTERS IN HER CLAIM OF BEING AHEAD IN THE POPULAR VOTE.

Hillary has not gotten more votes, only more individual paper ballots cast by people standing all by themselves in polling booths. Obama has had more actual people come out for him- but Hillary wants to disenfranchise all those caucus voters.

I''ll say again, for those dimwits thoughtlessly repeating Hillary''s lie-

HILLARY IS NOT AHEAD IN THE POPULAR VOTE.

HILLARY''S CLAIM DOES NOT COUNT ANY OF THE CAUCUS STATES.

Shame on all of you trying to spread such false trash.
Typical Hillary supporters...
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by zorar-2009 May 27, 2008 2:18 PM PDT
If Obama''s mom is white..why does he call himself an African American..or does just call himself that to get black votes because they''re going to vote for color not substance!
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