Iraq Teens Trained As Suicide Bombers

6 Boys, Aged 14-18, Say Saudi Militant Forced Them To Prepare For Suicide Operations

(CBS/AP)  One potentially explosive issue surrounding the vote appeared to be resolved - Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's inclusion in the bill of a provision banning political parties with militias from running. That demand angered the Sadrist Movement and helped fuel violence this year by the Mahdi Army, the powerful militia loyal to al-Sadr.

But al-Sadr spokesman Salah al-Obeidi said the movement's candidates would run under other, smaller lists, not under the Sadr Movement name. "We are not a party. We will enter open lists by putting in well-known figures," he said.

The friction that erupted Monday focused on the Kurds and their attempts to increase their power in the northern oil city of Kirkuk. Kurds seek to include the city's Tamim province in their autonomous zone to the north, a step opposed by the area's large Sunni Arab and ethnic Turkoman populations and other communities.

The Kurds stormed out of a meeting of the heads of the major factions on the sidelines of parliament Monday, held to work out differences over a bill organizing the vote put forward by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki last month.

The Kurds demand that Tamim province be counted as a single voting district, apparently believing that their community will outweigh voting by other groups. The bill as it stands says the number of districts depends on a province's population.

"We have warned the faction heads, the presidency and the parliament that we will not vote on the law unless these conditions are met," Kurdish lawmaker Mahmoud Osman told The Associated Press.

Turkoman lawmaker Abbas al-Bayati said his community wants Tamim to have four districts to better ensure the voices of areas dominated by Turkomans, Sunni Arabs and other groups are not drowned out.

Iraq's Independent Election Commission has said the law must be passed by June 1 for it to have time to organize the vote before the Oct. 1 deadline. A delay will mean parliament will have to pass a separate law pushing back the election to November or December.

"We were promised that the law would finish on April 15, and that didn't happen, then promised May 15, and that didn't happen. Now we're promised June 1. This is an embarrassing delay, and we hope it will be passed this week," said Qassim al-Aboudi, the commission's executive director.


FIFA Provisionally Suspends Iraq From Sports Competition

Iraq's soccer federation was suspended from international competition for one year Monday because of the decision by its government to disband all national sports governing bodies.

FIFA's executive committee made the decision Monday and said it would revoke the ban if it received by Thursday "written confirmation from the Iraqi government that the decree has been annulled."

Iraq, the Asian champion, was slated to play Australia in a World Cup qualifier at Brisbane on Sunday and was scheduled to arrive in the Queensland state capital late Tuesday from Thailand, where the team was training.


In Other Developments:

• Despite a cease-fire by militia fighters loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a roadside bomb struck a U.S. mine-resistant armored vehicle on the southern edge of Sadr City, engulfing it in flames and smoke. The U.S. military said there were no casualties.
  
• A suicide bomber on a motorcycle targeted the house of the local leader of a U.S.-allied Sunni group that has turned against al Qaeda in Iraq, killing four people, including a policeman, two guards and a civilian, and wounding four others, police officials said.
  
• There was a rare roadside bombing near an Iraqi army checkpoint on the heavily guarded road that leads to the Baghdad International Airport. An Iraqi soldier and four civilians were wounded, police said.
  
• In Cairo, Saddam Hussein's former deputy has vowed that loyalists to the deposed dictator will continue fighting until the U.S. withdraws from Iraq, according to an interview published Monday in Al-Mawqif Al-Arabi, a little-known Egyptian paper. Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, a fugitive with a $10 million bounty on his head, has not been seen publicly since the fall of Saddam's regime in April 2003.

[dixxson-2009]

We like to recant, repent, and write books
proclaiming, BUSH LIED"" and don''t say this isn''t about money, like the Grand KKK profiting from it''s memoirs.
The fact that Bush Lies is no
Great Revelation.

[tootall10142]

We should find out where these kids parents are andtakethem into protective custody then the terriost wont have them to hold hostage over the children.have the children show us where the yaretraining or kill them all!

[hungry1968]

"Iraq Teens Trained As Suicide Bombers"




So is Hillary''s press corps.....

[bluestardad]

THESE KIDS WOULD BE PLAYING SOCCER IF BUSH, CHENEY AND HIS ISRAELI AND SAUDI FRIENDS HAD NOT LIED AMERICA INTO THIS WAR!

AMERICA DEMAND WAR CRIMES TRIALS NOW!

[brianbwb-2009]

"I know exactly what your saying but this is a whole other debate than the one we''''re having and the one your trying to push it too" Posted by DSR57

Ok, as simple as I can put it.

Bush lied.

We (our military) went in solely on the basis of Bush''s lies.

We (our military) destroyed their functioning society.

We (our military) caused anarchy, and all that sprang up in it.

Therefore, we (our military, especially the Commander in Chief) is squarely to blame for all of the consequences of our invasion.

Including little kids being forced to become bombers.

Clear enough?

[dsr57]

2. No other country, including ours, has the right to go to Iraq and play out their own agenda. My point is that the outside countries weren''''t in Iraq playing out anything before the US invaded, and then were not able to protect, in fact in the case of Turkey, actually aided their invasion, to finish off the Kurds that Saddan was lynched for gassing (with US gas, by the way).


posted by brian

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I know exactly what your saying but this is a whole other debate than the one we''re having and the one your trying to push it too

[brianbwb-2009]

"Right now I could careless about what the Saudi''''s did. You and I are talking about our military and what they get balmed for in Iraq. NOT what Saudi did or how bush lied I was talking about our military getting called "Monsters" even when a SAUDI MILITANT snuck into Iraq and is scaring kids into becoming suicide bombers." Posted by DSR57

So when we invade them, based on lies, and destroy their ability to keep such people out, then we are blameless? That is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was blameless because John Wayne Gacy also killed people.

Like you said, what the Saudis do is irrelevant. it is what our military is doing that matters, and they do merit the blame for the mess that is Iraq.

[brianbwb-2009]

"1.) Bush didn''''t decapitate him, he went to tril with an Iraqi judge.
2.) Your skating around your own point. You said earlier that "They" ( I''''m sure you meant Iraqi''''s had a right to defend their country) The other countries are Irrelevant in the argument you and I are having. You said IRAQI''''S have the right. Not everyone has the right to go to Iraq and play out their own agenda" Posted by DSR57

1. you obviously didn''t follow the trials, Saddam had more than one hundred charges leveled against him, upon finding him guilty of the first one, the US military handed him to Moqtada Al Sadr, knowing that Al Sadr would avenge the death of his father. The other charges, if they had gone to trial would have implicated the CIA in most of them, this is why the US dictated the order in which the charges would be tried.

2. No other country, including ours, has the right to go to Iraq and play out their own agenda. My point is that the outside countries weren''t in Iraq playing out anything before the US invaded, and then were not able to protect, in fact in the case of Turkey, actually aided their invasion, to finish off the Kurds that Saddan was lynched for gassing (with US gas, by the way).

[rafterman1]

===I find that arrogant and appalling that the very same people that allow you to live in a country with freedom has to endure your libel"===
Posted by DSR57

"Allows" us? No one "allows" us freedom. The Declaration of Independence said it best that freedom is the natural state of man. The Constitution gurantees us freedom. It is high arrogance to think any one group "allows" us freedom. Freedom is ours, it belongs to everyone. And the very people you propose that are good enough to "allow" us freedom are the same ones who propose the most anti-freedom things - Patriot Act, suspension Habeas Corpus, torture, secret prisons and wiretapping of Americans.

I need to go to work now. I''ll go and ask Bush if he will "allow" me to go.

[dsr57]

So whose military made it impossible for Iraq to keep the "insurgents" as you call them, out?

posted by brian
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What else would you call them?

You can''t exactly call them freedom fighters when the country they sneek into don''t want them there

[dsr57]

"To the best of my knowledge, we didn''''t invade Saudia Arabia. This insurgent is in Iraq from another country trying to kill their children ! ! This is NOT his war." Posted by DSR57

And it is not ours, but the "insurgent" would not be there if Bush had not allowed him in. Saudi Arabia, you say? The country of 17 of the 19 alleged hijackers, that we haven''''t invaded because they are Bush''''s "friends", and he didn''''t see fit to deal with the country the alleged hijackers actually came from, that Saudi Arabia?


Posted by brianbwb
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Brian,

You are trying your best to get away from our original argument.

Right now I could careless about what the Saudi''s did. You and I are talking about our military and what they get balmed for in Iraq. NOT what Saudi did or how bush lied I was talking about our military getting called "Monsters" even when a SAUDI MILITANT snuck into Iraq and is scaring kids into becoming suicide bombers.

[dsr57]

"I''''''''m not sure but I don''''''''t think that constitutes as our military''''''''s fault?" Posted by DSR57

Again, had Bush not suddenly decapitated Saddam, the other countries would not be there now. they had no foothold in Iraq under Saddam, Bush opened the door.


Posted by brianbwb

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1.) Bush didn''t decapitate him, he went to tril with an Iraqi judge.

2.) Your skating around your own point. You said earlier that "They" ( I''m sure you meant Iraqi''s had a right to defend their country) The other countries are Irrelevant in the argument you and I are having. You said IRAQI''S have the right. Not everyone has the right to go to Iraq and play out their own agenda

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by DSR57

So whose military made it impossible for Iraq to keep the "insurgents" as you call them, out? They certainly weren''t there before the US military invaded, according to the pentagon''s own reports.

Maybe it was the Vanuatu army that bombed all important command and control structures in Iraq, and maybe it was Lichtenstein who handed Saddam over to Moqtada Al Sadr to be lynched before his trials could be held in full. Maybe it was Morocco that kidnapped and tortured Iraqis in secret concentration camps.

Maybe, but I doubt it.

[brianbwb-2009]

"To the best of my knowledge, we didn''t invade Saudia Arabia. This insurgent is in Iraq from another country trying to kill their children ! ! This is NOT his war." Posted by DSR57

And it is not ours, but the "insurgent" would not be there if Bush had not allowed him in. Saudi Arabia, you say? The country of 17 of the 19 alleged hijackers, that we haven''t invaded because they are Bush''s "friends", and he didn''t see fit to deal with the country the alleged hijackers actually came from, that Saudi Arabia?

[brianbwb-2009]

"I''''ve posted a relevant message at 4.59AM, 5/27, in the "New Al Quaeda Cell A Growing Threat" report." Posted by juwbo

Nah, I checked, it wasn''t relevant.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I''''m not sure but I don''''t think that constitutes as our military''''s fault?" Posted by DSR57

Again, had Bush not suddenly decapitated Saddam, the other countries would not be there now. they had no foothold in Iraq under Saddam, Bush opened the door.

[dsr57]

I don''''t agree that they had nothing to do with these children, the US military, under orders from Bush, directly caused the anarchy that gave rise to these children, and so it is my position that the US military had everything to do with these children."

Call me a traitor if you wish, I have been called worse, but can you show how I am not correct?

Chrrrp... chrrrp (sound of crickets)

Didn''''t think so.


Posted by brianbwb.
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Sorry, there are a few moments out of the day that I actually have to work.

I can tell you exactly why the military is not Responsible. IS WASN"T AN IRAQI that Threatened these kids. Make sure you re-read that "NOT AN IRAQI" part

To the best of my knowledge, we didn''t invade Saudia Arabia. This insurgent is in Iraq from another country trying to kill their children ! ! This is NOT his war.

I''m not sure but I don''t think that constitutes as our military''s fault?

[juwboy]

I''ve posted a relevant message at 4.59AM, 5/27, in the "New Al Quaeda Cell A Growing Threat" report.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I don''t agree that they had nothing to do with these children, the US military, under orders from Bush, directly caused the anarchy that gave rise to these children, and so it is my position that the US military had everything to do with these children."

Call me a traitor if you wish, I have been called worse, but can you show how I am not correct?

Chrrrp... chrrrp (sound of crickets)

Didn''t think so.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Glad to see our troops cannot please you no matter what they do and in this case nothing" Posted by DSR57

I am of no consequence to be pleased, but if I had My wish, I would wish them all home, back with their families, and to see Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the people who staged this deadly farce on trial for war crimes and treason.