September 22, 2009 11:09 AM

Does Obama Support Gay Marriage?

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(National Review Online)  This column was written by Rich Lowry.
Barack Obama might be the first major candidate for president to support same-sex marriage.

He won't say as much. His definition of a "new politics" is capacious enough to allow for pose and slipperiness (as long as he's the one engaged in them). But his stance on a California supreme-court decision that ripped away any middle ground on the issue makes him operationally pro-gay marriage.

In California, a domestic-partnership law gives gay couples, in the words of the decision, "virtually all of the legal rights and responsibilities accorded married couples under California law." But that's not enough. Marriage must be redefined to include same-sex relationships. Any arrangement short of this is comparable to segregation: famously progressive California as Bull Connor's Alabama.

In a carefully hedged statement, Obama said he "respects the decision of the California Supreme Court." He respects a decision that disregarded the will of the people in California, as expressed by a 2000 referendum that defined marriage as between a man and a woman; he respects a decision that excoriated his own position of support for civil unions and (theoretical) opposition to same-sex marriage; he respects a decision that rejects the sort of political compromise he extols. It's like a professed abolitionist in 1857 saying he "respects" the Dred Scott ruling.

Obama's tone noticeably differed from John Kerry's in 2004. Kerry criticized the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling in favor of same-sex marriage and said he'd support a constitutional amendment banning it. In contrast, Obama patted the California court on the head and said nothing about a proposed referendum in the fall to amend the California constitution to overrule the court. Obama makes Kerry look like a staunch cultural conservative.

If the California decision goes into effect in 30 days - as is usually the practice - thousands of gay couples will get married no matter what the public decides. California doesn't have a statute like the one in Massachusetts that prevents people from coming there from out of state for same-sex marriages. Many of the newlyweds will be from elsewhere. They will return home, the seedbed for lawsuits to have their marriages recognized by their states.

What's to stand in its way? Obama opposes a federal constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman. He opposes the federal Defense of Marriage Act that prevents states from having to recognize same-sex marriages from other states. And he supports activist judges of the sort who find the California court's reasoning congenial.

Obama is a soft-toned cultural warrior, wrapped in the blandishments of change and bipartisanship. Roe v. Wade was a crucial catalyst for America's ongoing kulturkampf; it imposed a policy of abortion-on-demand on the nation, stoking a ferocious backlash. The Supreme Court and its liberal cheerleaders who thought it could force their preferred social change faster than the democratic process were the cultural aggressors.

So it is now. States around the country are giving legal standing to same-sex unions, but the California court insists the change is not fast or far-reaching enough. The court argued again and again that withholding the word "marriage" from gay unions denies them "equal dignity and respect." The court thus demands moral approval for these unions, and does what open-minded people everywhere are supposed to abhor: impose its morality on people who disagree.

If opposition to same-sex marriage is equivalent to bigotry, religious groups that oppose it are purveyors of discrimination and deserve to be treated as such under the law. Down this road is a significant challenge to religious freedom. Roe eventually discredited blatant judicial activism, but the California decision serves to revive it. If it stands, it will again legitimize judges governing by fiat.

That will bail out evasive liberal politicians who fear being forthright about their views and hope merely to step out of the way while judges impose them. For the cause of self-government, it's a disaster.
By Rich Lowry
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online

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by XpurpleXpaigeroX February 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST
same-sex marriage is a state of mind
not something others should be able to choose for them
if they love each other then it shouldn't matter what the law says they should be able to marry
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by JeSsIcAlOvEsHiM April 16, 2009 3:14 PM EDT
ok, I do not understand why people care so much about gay people getting married.
Also i don't understand how the goverment can contorl who gets married and who doesn't. Seeing as how marriage is done under GOD to prove your love for another.
Hence why A wedding is done in a church.
UNTILL the goverment came in and marries people in court.
Most say well god doesn't accept gays,
but if a gay couple will go before god and show there love then i dont see why the goverment wont allow it.
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by XpurpleXpaigeroX February 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST
i agree with what you are saying
marriage is a state of mind its a personal decision and those that don't approve of gay marriage i ask why?
really what gives you the right to choose what others do with their lives

i agree with what you are saying in this comment
by myamommy March 30, 2010 11:47 PM EDT
To answer your question, speaking from a Christian standpoint, is homosexuality is a form of sin. As Christians, we don't agree with the lifestyle, just as we dont agree with adultery, blasphemy, idolotry, murder, etc. If homosexuals want to get married, go ahead, but they must understand that they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, just as murderers, adulterers, etc. And keep in mind, I'm not saying that God hates homosexuals, He loves all of his children, he just doesn't like the actions. And as Christians we shouldn't hate homosexuals either, we should minister to them and pray for them and pray that the Lord delivers them. Hope I answered your question.
by messiahx4eve May 29, 2008 12:41 AM EDT
Marriage bestows upon the two people involved certain legal rights and privileges. These are things related to inheritance, life insurance benefits, home/property ownership rights, tax benefits, employer benefits etc etc. These benefits are only available to people who are "legally married".
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Again I ask why this should concern me? If you are married, logically this should be the progression followed. If a married couple pay into this system, they should reap the benefits of it if either one dies. There are MUCH bigger issues out there than Gay marriage I can think of fighting. Diversionary journalism is great *** is it or should it be MY concern? What two people want is THEIR business, not mine, if its money you are worried about, why bother? Its not yours anyway.
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by d33pthroat1 May 28, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
Why do we even care who sleeps or has s*e*x with whom? What is the big deal? I am not gay or lesbian, but I feel that IF someone wants to be gay or lesbian, why should it bother me?

-Posted by messiahx4eve at 06:40 AM : May 28, 2008

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The issue is not about who is having s*e*x with whom. The issue is about a legally recognized relationship called "marriage".

Marriage bestows upon the two people involved certain legal rights and privileges. These are things related to inheritance, life insurance benefits, home/property ownership rights, tax benefits, employer benefits etc etc. These benefits are only available to people who are "legally married".

Gay and lesbian couples are fighting for legitimization of their relationships through marriage so that they can enjoy the same benefits as heterosexual married couples.
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by myamommy March 31, 2010 12:05 AM EDT
Just to let you know, it is religious to a Christian, maybe you aren't. And yes, it is a personal choice, just like it is a personal choice for someone to drink 12 beers, and go drive and kill someone on the highway, does that make it right?
by messiahx4eve May 28, 2008 9:40 AM EDT
Why do we even care who sleeps or has s*e*x with whom? What is the big deal? I am not gay or lesbian, but I feel that IF someone wants to be gay or lesbian, why should it bother me? Is this the best that people can lower themselves to fight about? You all that worry about this or fret about it to the point of it being a mental disorder, need to either get therapy or stuff your collective heads up your coleective religious behinds and breathe deeply and get a life, GAY marriage is a PERSONAL choice, not a political, religious, legal or community choice. Bible thumpers beware, bibles CAN strike back.
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by guysdigdirt May 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
conservatives are hypocrits

Posted by joyous88 at 09:13 AM


Liberals calling conservatives hypocrites, that is the true definition of a hypocrite, isn''t it.
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by guysdigdirt May 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
It''''s hard to see where Obama stands on any issue.

He''''s never sponsored any kind of legislation of his own.

Never "solved" the problems of poor folks in his old south-side of Chicago district.

Voted "present" more times than he took a position on an issue.

Who is this guy, Obama?

Is he like a lot of people think, a "product" of the most corrupt institution in America, our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press?

.............Looks like it more and more everyday..........sad.
Posted by perceptions5

The only thing he has ever gone on record to vote for is to take away constitutional rights.
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by eroosevelt08 May 27, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
Oh Great. Obama''s New Politics allow for pose and slipperiness. That doesn''t sound like change to me. That sounds just like George W. Bush to me.
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by perceptions5 May 27, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
It''s hard to see where Obama stands on any issue.

He''s never sponsored any kind of legislation of his own.

Never "solved" the problems of poor folks in his old south-side of Chicago district.

Voted "present" more times than he took a position on an issue.

Who is this guy, Obama?

Is he like a lot of people think, a "product" of the most corrupt institution in America, our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press?

.............Looks like it more and more everyday..........sad.
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by irliberal May 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
Happy Larry Craig Day,

conservatives are hypocrits

Posted by joyous88 at 09:13 AM

Lol... funny. 8-)
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