May 26, 2008
The End Of The Culture War?
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In mid-May Democrats were finally riding high again. Their contentious primary appeared to be drawing to a close, they had routed Republicans for a third time in a Congressional special election and Americans were looking to them to address a failed war and a failing economy. Then on May 15 the California Supreme Court voted four to three to legalize same-sex marriages. As if on cue, gays and lesbians took to the streets of The Castro, Mayor Gavin Newsom vowed to turn San Francisco's City Hall into a hot pink wedding chapel and right-wing demagogues announced that they would place a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage on California's fall ballot. Suddenly, conservatives like William Kristol were crowing about how resentment over "judicial activism" would help deliver John McCain the White House, and Democrats were seeing shades of 2004 — when anti-gay marriage initiatives supposedly contributed to John Kerry's defeat.
But in fact, California's marital fireworks represent a more comforting reality for Democrats — the beginning of the end of the culture war. Nowhere is this sea change more evident than in the Golden State, where gay marriage has become a thoroughly mainstream proposition. In 2005 and 2007 the California State Legislature passed bills granting gays and lesbians the right to marry; on both occasions, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the bills. But by directly expressing their support for gay marriage through the democratic process, the State Legislature undercut the right-wing claim that gay marriage is something "activist judges" foist onto an unwilling public. Indeed, the majority on the state's Supreme Court, comprising three Republicans and one Democrat, weren't "legislating from the bench"; they were reaffirming legislative will. And despite his vetoes, Schwarzenegger has said that he respects the court's opinion and opposes an amendment to the California Constitution, something he calls "a waste of time."
None of this will deter conservatives from pouring money, ground troops and vitriol into their campaign to get a marriage amendment passed, and they may well succeed this fall. But even that short-term victory won't change two fundamentals: in the presidential race, California will go to the Democratic candidate, and the idea of gay marriage — endorsed by the State Legislature, accepted by the Republican governor and supported by growing numbers of gay-friendly voters — has become for Californians as banal as a Hollywood divorce.
Indeed, for all the hoopla, the number of new rights California's gay couples picked up from the decision was this: zero. That's because California already had a same-sex domestic partnership statute on the books. Passed by the legislature in 1999 and expanded on several occasions to include more rights, California's domestic partnership laws are the most comprehensive in the nation, granting every right of coupledom a state can give absent federally recognized marriage. All the court did was give queers the m-word. This decision may have legal repercussions down the line, but in terms of actual economic and legal rights like access to spousal health insurance, hospital visitation and inheritance, Californians had already arrived at the conclusion that these should be available to all regardless of sexual orientation. To be sure, the symbol of marriage may matter a lot to some, mainly marriage-minded gays and Christian conservatives, but few voters are willing to hang a national election on it. According to a May Gallup poll, just 16 percent of Americans think that a presidential candidate must share their view on gay marriage.
The California gay marriage debate illustrates important national trends for Democrats. Growing numbers of Americans favor gay rights, including some form of partnership recognition for same-sex couples, especially when framed as economic and legal rights. This is particularly true of young voters; in California 55 percent of voters under 30 support gay marriage, and nationwide 63 percent of voters under 40 support civil unions or domestic partnerships. But this trend also holds true for voters of all ages; a 2007 Field poll reported that Californians young and old were four times more likely to say they are becoming more accepting of gay relationships than less accepting. Moreover, when the symbolic weight of marriage is removed from the equation, support for gay rights becomes overwhelming. Nationwide, a whopping 89 percent of voters favor protecting gays and lesbians from employment discrimination.
Instead of fearing an anti-gay backlash, then, Democrats should take this moment to reconsider their longstanding assumption that cultural antagonisms can only hurt their national electoral prospects. Fearing the worst, for decades the Democrats caved to or triangulated around cultural conservatives, making ill-fated examples out of every Sister Souljah in the house and offering insulting sops to "family values," like video-game ratings. Indeed, the premise that Democrats are still on the losing side of the culture war defined the last weeks of Hillary Clinton's campaign, which, aided by the mainstream media, dredged up nearly every assumed liberal Achilles' heel of the past forty years — race, religion, guns, elitism, patriotism and '60s radicalism — in order to paint Barack Obama as a general election loser. But, like Christian conservative attempts to portray same-sex marriage as a "threat to civilization," the culture war against Obama — waged around flag pins, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers and bowling scores — was a whole lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Thankfully, the majority of Democratic voters refused to be manipulated by these symbols sheared of substance, and now it is time to retire the paradigm altogether. An over determined catchphrase, "the culture war" was always an insult — most of all to the concept of culture itself, which the right wing reduced from a good or an aspiration to a series of cheap slurs aimed at liberals who drank too many lattes or hailed from the wrong places, like Massachusetts and San Francisco. But demography was always trending the other way, and now Starbucks lattes can be found in every small town, hip-hop is everywhere and homosexuals are here, queer and on the bridal registry — all of which elicits a collective yawn from the under-40 set.
By Richard Kim
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.
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Dems are getting a pass this Fall on social issues because most Americans have finally begun to realize that the irresponsible fiscal and international behavior of the Bush administration is going to have REAL consequences for their lives in the future. Many realize we CANNOT continue down this path, and worry that McSame will take us down it.
But if you SCARE them that gay, black, muslim, criminals will be out of jail trying to get their children, they''ll go back in their cave again, and allow the real rape and pillaging of America to continue. And THAT would be a tragedy.
Meanwhile, George Michael gets arrested for what is culture according to g@y people - doing "things" in public bathrooms. Uh, okay...
I honestly don''t care what they do. They also say it''s nobody''s business. They''re also the ones who make more of a stink about their choices in public, so we have a right to respond too. Or maybe I do care. Many otherwise worthwhile people have died a slow and horrific death because of the selfishness inherent in that lifestyle choice.
How is being gay a sexual perversion. Is you actually look at the statistics most *** crimes are actually committed by people who are heterosexual. You would know this if you weren''t a psycho anti-gay, pro-life, pro-bush moron.
Posted by talk2chief at 09:47 PM
Right. And we all know that the only reason anybody ever has *** is to produce a child. There are no other reasons at all!
Fool.
Fool.
Posted by IRLibera
Your the fool just kidding yourself if you don''t understand the basic laws of nature.
Apparently the headline can include the word G a y s, but posts cannot. Nice censorship, CBS.
Yes, it is true that public support for some gay issues is growing, but to declare this the "end of the cultural wars" is absolutely preposterous. Basing this on a ruling by a Court in CALIFORNIA is also ridiculous! California is not a bellwether for American politics! I agree with the California court, but I am not delusional. This author refuses to mention that courts in New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Maryland have said that their state constitutions do not require same-*** marriage. Only Mass and Cal. have ruled for same-*** marriage.
PROBLEM IS THAT AMERICA KNOWS THAT THOSE PREACHING AGAINST *** ARE THEMSELVES GAY! CHASING UNDERAGE PAIGE BOYS AROUND THE HALLS OF CONGRESS, HIDING IN MALE AIRPORT BATHROOM STALLS, PREACHING FROM THE PULPIT AGAINST *** AND HIREING GAY PROSTITUTES BEHIND THEIR WIFES BACK!
I WOULD FEEL SAFER WITH A PLATOON OF OPENLY GAY MILITARY PEOPLE THAN WITH A BUNCH OF NEOCONS WITH DUEL MIDDLE EAST PASSPORTS WHO HAVE NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY DIRECTING AMERICAN FORIEN POLICY!
GET THE ISRAELI AND SAUDI LOBBIEST OUT OF AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!
AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
I used to be antigay, but over the years i became more openminded. Now i think it is a personal choice. I do not want a gay person making a pass at me but if they are consenting adults then i think it is their business. I am more concerned about the spread of aids and that is sexually transmitted thru both homosexual people and straight people.
The difference is homosexuality is now considered legal in most places. It is not a disease like alcoholism or selling drugs. I really believe it is in the psychological makeup of a person when they ae born and is not a matter of choice.
It is primarily religious groups who oppose gay marriage - even when the couple gains little more than the right to use the M word. America was founded by people who wanted freedom of religion; freedom from a government dictating their religious beliefs. America was founded as a country with separation of church and state, yet it is now the church trying to force the state to impose laws based on religious beliefs.
People are free to follow their religious beliefs, but they are not free to force others to also believe as they do. We don''t have a ban on pork just because some religions forbid it. We don''t forbid divorce just because some religions forbid it. Women are not forced to wear head coverings. Marriage is a legal construct as well as a religious one and should, as all other religious practices, be free to exist outside of religious boundries.
Our country was founded to allow freedom of religion, including freedom from religious oppression. We are not Iraq or any Muslim country where the government forces people to follow religious dictates. We are America where we are all allowed for follow our own beliefs - even when those beliefs and practices differ from our neighbors.
The culture war is far from over. A significant number of people sincerely feel homosexuality is wrong, unhealthy, and/or bad for society. I don''t hate ***, but I for one am not at all going to accept homosexuality as OK. It''s not.
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by talk2chief
May 27, 2008 6:23 PM PDT
- I just have to wonder: Why does the Creator of this magnificent universe concern Him or Herself with where one species on one of Their planets put their *******?
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See all 23 CommentsPosted by fsw3 at 09:06 AM
Because two pipes and two vessels don''t get it done. How hard is it to understand, homosexuality is UN-NATURAL and reproductively... unproductive. A dead end for any living species.