WASHINGTON, May 22, 2008

Ellen Challenges McCain On Gay Marriage

On Talk Show, GOP Candidate Says Same-Sex Couples Should Be Allowed To Enter Legal Agreements, But He Opposes Gay Marriage

  • In this photo released by Warner Bros. talk show host Ellen DeGeneres welcomes presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., during a taping of

    In this photo released by Warner Bros. talk show host Ellen DeGeneres welcomes presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., during a taping of "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at the NBC lot in Burbank, Calif.  (AP)

(AP)  Republican John McCain says same-sex couples should be allowed to enter into legal agreements for insurance and other purposes, but he opposes gay marriage and believes in "the unique status of marriage between and man and a woman."

"And I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue," the likely Republican presidential nominee said in an interview to air Thursday on "The Ellen DeGeneres show."

McCain, who also opposes an amendment to the Constitution to ban same-sex unions, said people should be encouraged to enter into legal agreements, particularly for insurance and other areas where decisions need to be made.

DeGeneres needled McCain on the issue, arguing that she and the senator from Arizona aren't different.

Last week, after the California Supreme Court cleared the way for gay marriage in that state, DeGeneres announced on her program her engagement to longtime girlfriend Portia de Rossi.

"We are all the same people, all of us. You're no different than I am. Our love is the same," she said. "When someone says, 'You can have a contract, and you'll still have insurance, and you'll get all that,' it sounds to me like saying, 'Well, you can sit there, you just can't sit there.'

"It feels like we are not, you know, we aren't owed the same things and the same wording," DeGeneres said.

McCain said he's heard her "articulate that position in a very eloquent fashion. We just have a disagreement. And I, along with many, many others, wish you every happiness."

DeGeneres steered the conversation back toward the humor she's known for.

"So, you'll walk me down the aisle? Is that what you're saying?" she asked.

"Touche," McCain said.

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by grammawhamma May 24, 2008 5:03 AM EDT
rubraindead: Jesus must be so proud of you!
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by rubraindead May 24, 2008 3:39 AM EDT
GrammaWhamma: do you stammer...to bad you are brain dead homosexuality is a grievious wrong choice
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
mudrose: please, lay off the ad homs. is the decline of the birthrate in europe due to homosexuals taking over? maybe people just do not want to have as many kids. do you feel that sexual orientation is a choice? if you can''t answer the questions, then tell me. if you want to be a rude prick, well, go have biblical knowledge of yourself.
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
Mudrose, in order for the survival of the human race to be threatened by homosexuals, it would be necessary for all of the people to choose homosexuality over heterosexuality. That simply isn''''t going to happen. Do you truly believe that sexual orientation is a choice?

Posted by honestabe8

Birth rate in Europe is considerably lower than it''s every been. People just won''t get married. Please don''t give us your pat answers. They are simply too stupid.
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
Your comments are interesting, I didnt know that homosexuals wanted the rest of us to ''''worship'''' them. I just thought they only wanted the same rights as everyone else. I just thought that they wanted to be treated and held in the same regard by the government as all Americans should be.... :)
Posted by chitown639

They have the same rights as everyone else. Marriage is not a right.
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by fleura-2009 May 23, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
Chitown,

I respect your position. I strongly believe in everyone of us have "free agency" and however we exercise that "AGENCY" is not something that anyone can tell us what and how to do it.

Having said that, I respect alot of *** out there and some of close friends are also openly Gay. ETHICALLY and RELIGIOUSLY speaking, it is rather hard to distinguish someone who chooses to sleep with same-*** from someone who sleeps with minors or abusive to weaker members of society. Worst yet someone who''d be of "bestiality" support and all that goes with the WRONGS in our society today.

We need a serious "cleaning and filtering" process today to rid us of all the nastyness to our human kindness and culture of habits.

I have gay acquaintances and respect them but don''t approve of their habits....PERIOD!!!

I have 2 lovely puppies and our family adores our dogs like family memmbers, because they are family members. But someone else to use pets and animals for sexual purposes and abuse is nothing less than....UNCLEAN to our society in general.

I approve this message and I am FLEURA!
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by chitown639 May 23, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
There is a big WRONG in being and living a GAY lifestyle and somehow these people think everyone has to bow and worship them in their distasteful HABITS!!!!

I am FLEURA and I approve this message.


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Posted by fleura

Your comments are interesting, I didnt know that homosexuals wanted the rest of us to ''worship'' them. I just thought they only wanted the same rights as everyone else. I just thought that they wanted to be treated and held in the same regard by the government as all Americans should be.... :)
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by fleura-2009 May 23, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
I am a Democrat and I agree with that marriage should only be allowed to the male/female union. It is an ethical issue and a strongly a religious commendment!

I don''t hate *** and all, but I think everyone has the right to their "Agency". However, there are rules and guidelines that protect us and also guide us in the choices that we make.

There is a big WRONG in being and living a GAY lifestyle and somehow these people think everyone has to bow and worship them in their distasteful HABITS!!!!

I am FLEURA and I approve this message.
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
hamiltongrad: i am a straight male who wants to stop working for a while to find "solace and peace"...where do i sign up for my money?
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
hamiltongrad: are you kidding? a 1% tax on men and straight couples to support women and gay causes? that is among the most absurd ideas i have read on here. Given the maniacs who post on this forum, that is a tall order indeed.
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by hamiltongrad May 23, 2008 1:01 PM EDT

Where does McCain stand on the 1 % tax on MEN and Straight Couples to help support Women and GAyyy causes ?

Our Collucoulm has proposed this with 100 % support from our University Meetings. This could help pay for outreach to undecided GAYYYS in high school, fund food programs, help support educational efforts to promote our lifestyle choices for women who desire to stop working for a period of time to find solace and peace. Go to our website. FREEONEPERCENTNOW.org
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by hamiltongrad May 23, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
As a College Professor on Women and the World, and published author, I am offended that we, as women have to seek the support of ANY MAN, for any position, attitute, action or desire we might have. Ellen, you do not have to have ANY MAN on your program, and nor do you have to ASK what they think about ANYTHING !
By jumping off the bus, we will find our own car to drive !
Ellen, you are a secret panderer to MEN.
Ellen , if you were a true PROGRESSIVE, you would REJECT the need to SPEAK to men, 100 % - or is it the MONEY you really love ???
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
"Logically speaking, if everyone''''s sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone''''s sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race." Mudrose, in order for the survival of the human race to be threatened by homosexuals, it would be necessary for all of the people to choose homosexuality over heterosexuality. That simply isn''t going to happen. Do you truly believe that sexual orientation is a choice?
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
Children should not be exposed to the higher levels of domestic violence of homosexuals. Another reason that same *** couples should not care for foster or adoptive children is that same *** couples experience much higher levels of domestic violence than their heterosexual counterparts. Some studies show that the rate is at least three times higher than that of heterosexual couples. It seems unkind to force children to be exposed to this higher level of violence.
The book Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them: Battered Gay Men and Domestic Violence by two homosexual researchers %u201Cestimated that 650,000 homosexual men are victims of domestic violence each year, compared to figures from the FBI which showed that last year 1,300 hate crimes were reported.%u201D
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
What kind of stability will be afforded a child who is exposed to that kind of change of a significant other? I also say this against those heterosexuals who also co-habitat, it is unkind to children to expose them to continual relationship changes.

There is less likelihood that a same *** couple will even be alive to care for their child. One of the reasons that Homosexual couples should not be able to adopt children or take in foster children is that according to many studies, the life span of homosexuals is much lower than that of heterosexuals. These tragic conditions create a much less stable home life for that child. Giving a foster or adopted child to homosexual parents is a form of relational child abuse. The child has been placed in a home in which the parents have an inherent shorter life span.
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 12:06 PM EDT
Also

Logically speaking, if everyone''s sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone''s sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.
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by mudrose-2009 May 23, 2008 12:05 PM EDT
Never gonna take root here if the people can help it. And this is why. So whereever you are taddles, go research my sites.

Defining a Homosexual relationship as loving and monogamous ignores the reality of same *** relationships. Many say that the premise on which we should accept same *** unions is that some of them are "loving, monogamous relationships." In regards to homosexual monogamy, homosexuals remain faithful to one partner about 25% of the time. This is a much lower fidelity rate, than their heterosexual counterparts, which is 80%. It is not unusual for homosexuals to have hundreds of sexual partners in a life time.
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 11:27 AM EDT
Sorry for the double post, I stutter.
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
I have not made up my mind regarding gay marrage. Mostly because I do not know if government should be endorsing ANY marriage, gay or straight. It strikes me that marriage is a religious institution thing...and if any church wants to accept/deny *** their marriage vows, well, that is up to that church. One thing (of many) that I do not understand is the idea that sexual orientation is a choice. I am a straight male, and my orientation was not at all a choice. Why do others feel that orientation is a choice?
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by honestabe8 May 23, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
I have not made up my mind regarding gay marrage. Mostly because I do not know if government should be endorsing ANY marriage, gay or straight. It strikes me that marriage is a religious institution thing...and if any church wants to accept/deny *** their marriage vows, well, that is up to that church. One thing (of many) that I do not understand is the idea that sexual orientation is a choice. I am a straight male, and my orientation was not at all a choice. Why do others feel that orientation is a choice?
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