CAPITOL HILL, May 20, 2008

Ex-Guantanamo Detainee Claims Torture

German National Held For Four Years To Testify Before Congress

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(CBS/AP)  A man who was held for years at the Guantanamo Bay prison will testify on Capitol Hill today.

Murat Kurnaz, who was born in Germany, was declared an enemy combatant and held at Guantanamo Bay for almost four years even though U.S. investigators couldn't tie him to al Qaeda.

Kurnaz was freed after Germany's chancellor made a personal plea to President Bush.

He told CBS' 60 Minutes he was tortured at Guantanamo.

According to Kurnaz, he was detained by Pakistani police at age 19 while traveling through the country and transferred to U.S. custody three months after 9/11. During his 60 Minutes interview, Kurnaz claimed that American troops held his head underwater during interrogations, shocked his body with electricity and suspended him by his arms from the ceiling of an aircraft hangar for five days while at a military base in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

After six weeks in Kandahar, Kurnaz said he was transferred to Guantanamo where he faced beatings from guards, sleep deprivation and periods of solitary confinement. All the while, according to his American lawyer Baher Azmy, both American and German intelligence officials had begun circulating reports indicating Kurnaz's innocence.

However, according to Azmy, Kurnaz was held for another three-and-a-half years as U.S. officials kept producing new charges against him. Kurnaz was freed in August 2006, only after a personal plea from the German chancellor to President Bush.

In a written statement to 60 Minutes, Defense Department officials called Kurnaz's claims "unsubstantiated" and "outlandish."

His appearance before a House panel comes as the Justice Department inspector general releases a long awaited report. It reportedly concludes that the FBI was sometimes slow to report its concerns about terror suspects being mistreated at Guantanamo and elsewhere.

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by legalru May 20, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
Just go back to Germany. And yeah, sure you''re as innocent as Taliban Johnny, our own turncoat. And just so you know.... the US does not torture.
GO HOME!!
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by pkelly79 May 20, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
The US waterboards ... the US put Japanese soldiers to death after WWII for waterboarding ... the US is guilty of torture. Bush is a war criminal weather we''ll ever admit it or not. The current administration has caused immense damage to the United States standing in the world which will take decades to heal. ''legalru'' you''re ignorant. Bush has proven the incredible danger of the combination of arrogance and ignorance. Obama is going to have his work cut out for him over the next 8 years.
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by three-o-six May 20, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
PKelly

You are assuming that Obama will get in. Some recent polls indicate that the rift in the Democratic party my prevent either candidate from winning the presidency. Well good luck anyway.
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by hangelle May 20, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
legalru, legalru, legalru! Ignorance is bliss, isn''t it?!
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by extremophil May 20, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
He looks in pretty good shape to have gone through all that so-called torture.
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by bobbyduck1 May 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
So extremophil, what, he must be lying if he still has teeth and eyes?

Intelligence officials in U.S. and Germany noted his innocence so the Bushit torture brigade kept at it for another 3 and 1/2 years trying to prove themselves right after all, no matter the evidence.

And you want to find fault with the victim? Talk about your classic "Ugly American" !!
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by ajayvee May 20, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
extemophil philosophy : If he''s Muslim he must be guilty! Torture away! Sick!

legalru, it must do your heart good to know that the US is now on the world torture list with Pakistan, Egypt, Israel, the Sudan, etc. Another sicko! God protect us from another 4 years of the same under McBush.
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by wogerwabbit May 20, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
This is shameful... and to make excuses for it is just as depraved. You people are examples of the worst of human nature and should be hunted down and exterminated like rabid animals. You''re the festering rot within this country.
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by ringading3 May 20, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
He is a LIAR! End of story!
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by komoncents May 20, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
Until the Saudi/Bush/Cheney crime syndicate is dismantled and these butchers tried for genocide, torture, and numerous other despicable and deprived violence, the entire world will have the U.S. on its most hated list. But of course this was their plan all along - endless war and endless robbery of the U.S. taxpayer and the largest shift of monetary wealth in the history of the world via oil price blackmail.
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by libh8er May 20, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
He looks in pretty good shape to have gone through all that so-called torture.
Posted by Extremophil at 02:50 PM : May 20, 2008

Exactly! He''s a liar. Will probably run for congress trying to get Nancy Pelosi''s seat.
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by komoncents May 20, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
Some folks will defend this kind of behavior by attacking the credibility of the victims. Just how many examples of wrongdoing need be perpetrated before the truth is realized? Those who blindly follow and strenuously defend those who perpetrate these acts in name of defending us, do the rest of humanity a great disservice. Of course its always tough to know who''s telling the truth when we are inundated with mistruths on a constant basis. Some even still refuse to believe their own eyes when they see the video of the twin-towers falling in a controlled demolition.
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by marksman101 May 20, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
"His appearance before a House panel comes as the Justice Department inspector general releases a long awaited report. It reportedly concludes that the FBI was sometimes slow to report its concerns about terror suspects being mistreated at Guantanamo and elsewhere."

So DOD officials, the Dept. of Justice inspector general, and Murat Kurnaz are all lying? No.

America tortures, and it makes me sick that FELLOW soldiers would that. Considering we soldiers can not break orders, I''m willing to bet the orders came from up top. + This disgusts and embarrasses me as both a soldier and an American.
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by dlkcoil01 May 20, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
I don''t get it anymore. No approach is perfect. If this guy is innocent, then he deserves sympathy and should receive some form of compensation, but if he''s guilty....then....

What was his purpose for being over there at a time when things were underway to fight terrorism? Was his visitation legit or was he found in an area that was highly questionable? What are the details for him being there and why?

Besides torturing a suspect is a necessary form of evil that must be done when it comes to dealing with people who are basically animals. In a time of war, things must be done to defeat the enemy. Torture should be the last course of action and it should be done with due vigilance when its clear the person is withholding information that would save LIVES. Keep in mind we are fighting religious-political based fanatic organization that have no intent in giving up peacefully. The question that needs to be answered %u2013%u201CDoes the West (United States, England, and others) have the fortitude and courage to stick it out? One thing we know for sure is that the terrorist know the opposite to be true. They are banking on public opinion to get us to let are guard down again so that the whole process of 9-1-1 can be done again and again.
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by dlkcoil01 May 20, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
Why hasn''t the media presented in explicit detail on a routine basis what occurs to foreigners (Americans and so on) captured by extreme Islamist in the Middle East. What they do to people in the name of their political-religion is sick and demented and gruesome in every way. To pill a persons skin of while they are alive, to burn them, to behead them and whatever other gruesome act is an abomination. The fanatics (terrorist) do these things and more without remorse of any kind. Why is the media not presenting theses travesties on a grand scale?

What has happened a Guantanamo Bay on the whole is benign to what we have seen occur in Iraq under Sadaam and what has been occurring to foreigners, women and children in many countries throughout the Middle East for years. Checkout Africa, there are more brutal things going on there this very day. Why is the media not providing a blitzkrieg bonanza regarding the travesties that takes place in those areas?

To pounce on the U.S. all the time, when we are primarily the only serious nation willing to stand up and fight to protect freedom is extremely destructive to our ability to defeat terrorist based societies and organizations. When are people going to realize this?

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by dlkcoil01 May 20, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
Yes! I agree that we do have people who go to far in their pursuit for justice, and those who over step their bounds should be summarily disciplined, but if the United States and others are unwilling to stick the fight out, then the terrorist based organizations fanatical religions and tyrannical governments will win and succeed in every way.

The nations standing for freedom are in a classic struggle with those nations committed to terrorism and overthrowing those societies that are not in support of them. Terrorist based nations and organizations are committed to fight to the end (even if it takes years, then they will do so); Free societies should be as well, else the next %u201CDARK AGE%u201D will occur. [Do we want this to happen?]

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by dlkcoil01 May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
Hey, I noticed that the media is obsessed with Guantanamo Bay and Bush bashing, whatever happened to talking about the real issues and presenting things that really matter like%u2026%u201Dwhy is the media and government so quiet regarding to the where about of Osama Bin Laden?%u201D %u201CWhy hasn%u2019t he been captured yet?%u201D

If we can find Hussein, then we should be able to find and capture Osama Bin Laden as well. It%u2019s almost like certain people, countries and organizations do not want to capture him at all.

Something rings of conspiracy here%u2026%u2026

How about this one for a topic: %u201COpen debate on the reason for gas prices being raised intentionally when there really is no oil crisis in the world.%u201D There%u2019s an agenda underway here and only a few know about it.

We better open our eyes as a society (I%u2019m talking about the average citizen), before its too late.
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by dlkcoil01 May 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
Hey, I noticed that the media is obsessed with Guantanamo Bay and Bush bashing, whatever happened to talking about the real issues and presenting things that really matter like%u2026%u201Dwhy is the media and government so quiet regarding to the where about of Osama Bin Laden?%u201D %u201CWhy hasn%u2019t he been captured yet?%u201D

If we can find Hussein, then we should be able to find and capture Osama Bin Laden as well. It%u2019s almost like certain people, countries and organizations do not want to capture him at all.

Something rings of conspiracy here%u2026%u2026

How about this one for a topic: %u201COpen debate on the reason for gas prices being raised intentionally when there really is no oil crisis in the world.%u201D There%u2019s an agenda underway here and only a few know about it.

We better open our eyes as a society (I%u2019m talking about the average citizen), before its too late.
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by babooph May 21, 2008 12:36 AM EDT
After the whole outside world & all with any brains in the States fully knew, the propaganda system finally admits White house torture behavior-euch.
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by babooph May 21, 2008 12:36 AM EDT
After the whole outside world & all with any brains in the States fully knew, the propaganda system finally admits White house torture behavior-euch.
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by dsr57 May 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
the US put Japanese soldiers to death after WWII for waterboarding ... the US is guilty of torture.

Posted by PKelly79
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DOn''t be ignorant your whole life....Do you have ANY IDEA what the Japanese have done during the wars they were a part of?
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by twood001 May 21, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
Torture has no place in a Democracy. Period!! To hold someone for years without formal charges is illegal. Shame on the US for as=cting like terrorists to defeat terrorists. We have sold our soul.
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by twood001 May 21, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
How in the world are we going to talk to someone else about thier brutal acts when we have not cleaned up our own? We are supposed to be a world leader. This guy was 19 when he was captured. Why wouldn''t he want to partake in terrorizing America after wgat has been done to him. Guantanamo must be shut down now!!! We are a nation of laws. Bush and his cronies should be tried for war crimes and impeached!!
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by komoncents May 21, 2008 7:06 PM EDT
Over 900 times the Bush white house co-conspirators lied about ficticious weapons of mass destruction - Donald Rumsfield even presented satellite photo locations of said repositories. Hardy har har! Trusting anything these hucksters spew forth smacks of pure lunacy. Some even refuse to believe their own eyes when they see the twin-towers falling in an obvious controlled demolition. Not to worry - I''ve got a bridge I can sell you! Step right up suckeeeeeers.
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by neo267-2009 May 22, 2008 8:06 AM EDT
So what? And who says he''s "innocent" - except the news media once again trying to smear their own country? What about the ones who have been released from Guantanemo have gone back and murdered soldiers and civilians? The news media never talks about them. More sick liberal hypocrisy.
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by wardoglrs May 23, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
In the name of patriotism, we have participated in a planned deception to create a state of permanent war. In the name of profit, America has been sacrificed on the altar of the god of war, to create a global empire based on the mass-marketing of death.

%u201CWe are opposed...by a ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the [war] with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match...%u201D %u2013John F Kennedy, 1961.

"Anyone who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither". Ben Franklin (paraphrased)

"I would rather die with the constitution clinched in my fist, then live with shackles on my feet" Greywolf
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by wardoglrs May 23, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
Get A rope?. :]
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