May 19, 2008
Clinton Quiet About Own Radical Ties
Washington Post: Lawyers Who Knew Her In 60s And 70s Say She Was Hypocritical For Faulting Obama For Ties To William Ayers
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When Hillary Rodham Clinton questioned rival Barack Obama's ties to 1960s radicals, her comments baffled two retired Bay Area lawyers who knew Clinton in the summer of 1971 when she worked as an intern at a left-wing law firm in Oakland, Calif., that defended communists and Black Panthers.
"She's a hypocrite," Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. "She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems."
Malcolm Burnstein, 74, a partner at the firm who worked closely with Clinton during her internship, said he was traveling in Pennsylvania in April when Clinton attacked Obama for his past interactions with William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, members of Students for a Democratic Society who went on to found the bomb-making Weather Underground.
"Given her background, it was quite hypocritical," Burnstein said. "I almost called the Philadelphia Inquirer. I saw what she and her campaign were saying about Ayers and I thought, 'Well, if you're going to talk about that totally bit of irrelevant nonsense, I'll talk about your career with us.'"
In her campaign for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination, Clinton has said little about her experiences in the tumultuous late 1960s and early 1970s, including her involvement with student protests and her brief internship at the law firm, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein. She has said she worked on a child custody case, although former partners recall her likely involvement in conscientious objector cases and a legal challenge to a university loyalty oath.
But her decision to target Obama's radical connections has spurred criticism from some former protest movement leaders who say she has opened her own associations to scrutiny.
"The very things she's accusing Barack of could be said of her with much greater evidence," said Tom Hayden, a leading anti-Vietnam War activist, author and self-described friend of the Clintons.
Robert Reich, who went to Yale Law School with Hillary Rodham and Bill Clinton and later served in the Clinton administration, called Hillary Clinton's attack on Obama "absurd," adding: "That carries guilt by association to a new level of absurdity. Where does guilt by association stop? I mean, she was a partner of Jim McDougal in the 1980s, for crying out loud." Reich is now an Obama supporter.
In response to the assertion that Clinton is a hypocrite for calling out Obama's ties to Ayers, campaign spokesman Philippe Reines said: "The comparison is patently absurd." The campaign played down her friendship with a noted student protest leader and defended her work with the Oakland firm. "At the time she worked there, the firm was primarily at the forefront of civil rights advocacy cases, which was a good fit with Senator Clinton's long-standing interest in civil rights and constitutional law," Reines said.
Clinton's associations date to her years as a student leader at Wellesley from 1965 to 1969. It was the height of student opposition to the Vietnam War, and Carl Oglesby, the president of Students for a Democratic Society, came to campus to speak.
"I gave a talk at Wellesley, where she was a student," Oglesby said in a telephone interview from Amherst, Mass., where he is recovering from a stroke. "I can't say that I was a close friend of hers. It was more of a passing acquaintance. I liked her. I think of her as a good guy. I think she has a good heart and a solid mind. And I support her in the current primary."
Oglesby had been close to Ayers and Dohrn, but the couple split with the more moderate SDS factions to form the Weather Underground, which engaged in a bombing campaign to try to stop the Vietnam War. The FBI monitored Oglesby throughout the period.
The Clinton campaign suggested last week that she did not meet Oglesby until the 1990s, long after his activist years. But in recent interviews, Oglesby has made clear that she stood out in his memory as he traveled across the country speaking at rallies.
In 1994, Clinton told Newsweek that Oglesby's writings in the 1960s helped persuade her to oppose the Vietnam War and to become a Democrat. She visited Oglesby in 1994 in Massachusetts, a meeting that was omitted from the First Lady's official schedule. Oglesby told the Boston Globe at the time, "We mostly discussed the '60s. I may have been a little gushy in my praise of the administration, but she was extremely impressive."
Oglesby now talks warmly about Clinton. In an interview with Reason magazine, he called their association "a friendship, a comradeship, within the context of the movement. She and I, for a while, were warm with each other. She and I were semi-close."
But Oglesby said he has not contacted Clinton because he is afraid that he could harm her candidacy.
"A friend of mine mentioned me to her not long ago, and according to him she got a case of the shakes. I think it was because she could imagine if any of her considerable enemies on the right wanted to do her in, they would be happy to discover a relationship between her and me," he told the magazine.
Clinton interned at Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein while attending Yale Law School. The firm defended the Black Panthers, including Angela Davis, and Clinton had been editor of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action, which included articles about Black Panther leader Bobby Seale's murder trial in New Haven, Conn.
Author Gail Sheehy wrote about the internship in her book "Hillary's Choice." Sheehy, who also wrote a 1971 book about the Black Panthers, interviewed firm partner Robert Treuhaft, who described Hillary Rodham attending a New Haven fundraiser for Seale's defense that he threw with his wife, author Jessica Mitford. Treuhaft -- who, with his wife, left the Communist Party in 1958 -- died in 2001.
Clinton kept up correspondence with the British-born Mitford through the early 1990s. "Top students like Hillary were much sought after by huge prestigious Wall Street-type law firms -- some, like Hillary, were far more interested in left-wing firms," Mitford wrote to a friend in 1992.
In her autobiography, "Living History," Clinton details little of the firm's background. She wrote that she "spent most of my time working for Mal Burnstein researching, writing legal motions and briefs for a child custody case."
But members of the firm have different recollections. Burnstein recalled her working on a case involving Stanford University students who refused to sign an oath attesting that they had never been communists.
Walker said that Clinton probably worked on cases to help young men avoid the draft. "We did a whole lot of conscientious-objector work," she said.
Hayden, one of the Chicago Seven who were acquitted of inciting riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention, said he is disappointed that Clinton has tried to taint Obama with guilt by association.
"Once you introduce the concept of guilt by association, everyone is in trouble because there is no end to it," he said. "The goal is to render Barack so unelectable that the party has to turn to her. Because the goal is so narrow and obsessive, she's not aware that she's also going to be collateral damage."
Researcher Madonna Lebling and research editor Alice Crites contributed to this report.
By James V. Grimaldi
© 2008 The Washington Post Company
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- now that some ppl know abt clintons past, what do u think now? mccain is another story. guess what he has a brother george bush. now once again since they both are racist & putting Obama down everyone think abt. it mccain,his past & his brother george bush do we want another president like him? clinton all i can say clinton is clinton. her newest person "DOG" DOG" now in her camp. Obama he is more honest then anyone & won''t as most ppl think will help his race only. all are liars in one way or another BUT OBAMA is the BEST for PRESIDENT & will b. OBAMA 2008!!!!
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- This is scary. Obama is sponsoring bill S2433 in the US senate. If passed, Obama''s bill will commit America to pay 845 Billion dollars to the UN over the next thirteen years for the UN Global Poverty Act. This money can only come from more taxes being levied on American citizens. Obama''s S2433 Senate bill will consume 0.7 percent of the US gross nation product.The UN Global Poverty Act also commits signing nations to ban their citizens from possessing small firearms. Goodbye second amendment. It also put''s parental right''s under UN supervision. Barack Obama is a global Marxist who wants a one world government that will be UN ran. Are you ready to pay even more sky high taxes and give up your national sovereignty for Obama''s change? Stop Obama''s madness, call your senator and demand that Obama''s bill S2433 be killed. Look the bill up on the web...
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- My friends, the definition of stupidity is believing in fairy tales and wishing for change from an inexperianced and unqualified candidate. McCain will win in Nov. 2008. It is because of Clinton that this will happen. Those who support her now will not vote for Obama. This, my friends, is a fact.
Posted by jack3213 at 09:32 PM : May 19, 2008
Jack, my friend, the definition of stupidity is when you are gettin'' the shaft and you just stand there and do nothin....just take it. Now if you like it, thats fine thats your thing...go vote mcBush for more of it. But if you are SICK of it then you get off yer as and do something about it.
Another definition of stupid is standing in the path of a TSUNAMI! NOW EITHER GET ON THE WAVE AND RIDE OR GET OUTTA THE WAY! WE ARE ON THE WAY TO THROW OUT THE BUMS! VIVA OBAMA! - Reply to this comment
- CLINTON FRIEND TRIED TO BUY SUPERDELEGATES.
Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization''s other uncommitted superdelegate backed Clinton.
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- The crux of the issue is that working on a community action Woods Fund with a former Weatherman is no more implication of condonement than being in Rotary club with Martha Stewart is condoning insider trading.
It was a phony issue during the debate and is phony when applied to Hill as well. Time to stop any refrence to HIllary stories. This race has been over for since Super Tuesday in many ways. The party is a wreck. - Reply to this comment
- My friends, the definition of stupidity is believing in fairy tales and wishing for change from an inexperianced and unqualified candidate.
Posted by jack3213 at 09:32 PM : May 19, 2008
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SO MUCH FOR EXPERIENCE
He had an array of experiences: Minister to Russia, Minister to Great Britain, ten years in the Senate, elected five times to the House of Representatives, Secretary of State for five years. While he was in office the nation increased in size by 33%. Yet, when he was elected as president in 1856, James Buchanan soon acquired the reputation as the worst president in the history of the country. The man who followed him in office only had two terms in the Illinois State Legislature, but Abraham Lincoln had no problem being elected to the presidency. - Reply to this comment
- HILLARY WAS WATCHING TV YESTERDAY AND WHEN SHE SAW THAT GIGANTIC, CHEERING CROWD OF OVER 75,000 "WHITE AMERICANS" SHE PEED IN HER NEW GOLD PANTSUIT.
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CLINTON FRIEND TRIED TO BUY SUPERDELEGATES
Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization''s other uncommitted superdelegate backed Clinton.- Reply to this comment
- as much as id like to make this an issue i think its irrelevant. This wouldve been cool at the abc debate but its not necessary at the moment. And people keep talking about these people like the black panthers and bill ayers but we forget how crazy america was back then. I dont condone violence on any means but vietnam was the worst war ever waged next to iraq. and blacks along with young people were on the front lines. radicals exist for a reason.
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- "She''s a hypocrite," Doris B. Walker, 89, who was a member of the American Communist Party, said in an interview last week. "She had to know who we were and what kinds of cases we were handling. We had a very left-wing reputation, including civil rights, constitutional law, racist problems."
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I can stand a lot of things, but a hypocrite isn''t one of them. The Republican party has enough hypocrites that I don''t thinks the Democrats need to pick up the habit. - Reply to this comment
- My friends, the definition of stupidity is believing in fairy tales and wishing for change from an inexperianced and unqualified candidate. McCain will win in Nov. 2008. It is because of Clinton that this will happen. Those who support her now will not vote for Obama. This, my friends, is a fact.
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- Clinton...SHUT UP ..WILL YA !!
DO THE... *** MATH
Total Delegate Count
Democrats | 2,026 Needed to Clinch
OBAMA 1,909
CLINTON 1,714
EDWARDS 9
Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch
MCCAIN 1,337
HUCKABEE 231
ROMNEY 149
CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates. - Reply to this comment
- LATEST POLITICAL NEWS ITEM
It was just reported that Clinton has removed herself from the presidential race after her campaign officials reached an agreement with officials of Obama%u2018s campaign.. Pursuant to the agreement, Obama and Hillary will conduct joint fund raisers in order to help retire Hillary%u2019s campaign debt. Current law prohibits Obama from making direct donations from his own campaign coffers on the theory that those donors made their donations to be used to promote the election of Obama, not Ms. Clinton. When Hillary was first informed of the agreement, she peed in her latest pair of gold pantsuits. - Reply to this comment
- Yeah, right, Clinton is winning, but she''''s winning second place.
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but second place is the first loser. - Reply to this comment
- "Hard to pull the wool over people''''s eyes when you don''''t control what they see and hear.
Posted by LibH8er at 01:03 PM : May 19, 2008"
Ah, trying to paint Obama as a terrorist supporter because he knows Bill Ayers is fair game but when it turns out that Hillary had a relationship with one of Ayers fellow "terrorists" and claims he was an inspiration to her and that she spent the late 60''s defending Black Panthers and anti-war activists,well now that''s just not relevant.
Hillary had ties to terrorists and supported the Black Panthers and anti-war activists, turn-about is fair game. - Reply to this comment
- "You Obama whiners are just upset because he is losing
Posted by RowdyTexas2 at 02:29 PM : May 19, 2008"
Really, by what metric? He''s loosing in Kentucky? LOL big deal. It''s over on Wednesday Rowdy...the black man will win it and you can start sleeping with the covers over you head. ROFLMAO at you. - Reply to this comment
- Clinton has really gone whacko. The latest I heard is that no one is going to win the Democratic until they reach 30,000 delegates. She also says that each of her delegates now count for 5000 regular delegates and that Obama''s delegates don''t count at all judging from her new math.
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- Yeah Hillary is winning!
You Obama whiners are just upset because he is losing
Posted by RowdyTexas2 at 02:29 PM : May 19, 2008
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Yeah, right, Clinton is winning, but she''s winning second place. - Reply to this comment
- Barack Obama will lose against John McCain, if Barack Obama wins against Hillary Clinton. Then, John McCain will do futher invasions. These said invasions will result in the annihilation of the UNITES STATES via NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Posted by j77761 at 02:29 PM : May 19, 2008
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It is written in the Book of Marvel that Spider Man and Bat Man will unite in their fight against evil. They have the Joker and his minions on the run. Evil broken face McCain is rocked by on his feet. News at eleven! - Reply to this comment
- Barack Obama will lose against John McCain, if Barack Obama wins against Hillary Clinton. Then, John McCain will do futher invasions. These said invasions will result in the annihilation of the UNITES STATES via NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
If by some manipulation of fate, Barack Obama wins against John McCain. Barack Obama will be the last president because Barack Obama will be set-up as the UNITED STATES gets annihilated.
The TRIGGER(S) that the MASONS are setting-up will push both Russia and China to NUKE the UNITED STATES via NUCLEAR WEAPONS. The MASONS want to FORCE the SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON ("EUROPEAN UNION"/NEW ROMAN EMPIRE). Three (3) HORNS have to be removed before the said SEVENTH KINGDOM can be realized. First, the UNITED STATES (REVELATIONS 17 AND 18). Then, RUSSIA and the NEAR EAST/MIDDLE EAST (EZEKIEL 39). The third HORN is CHINA partially destroyed in the interim to meet the anti-christ later in ISRAEL.
President BUSH was supposed to invade IRAN during 2006, as set-up by the COUNSEL OF TEN (REVELATIONS 13 and 17) and GOD. Neither GOD nor the said COUNSEL can stall any JUDGMENT of GOD. Hence, there was a change in GOD''S LAW during 2006. There was a change in the said LAW during July 2006. - Reply to this comment
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