CHICAGO, May 19, 2008

McCain, Obama Spar Over Iran Comments

Presumptive GOP Nominee Accuses Obama Of Inexperience, Reckless Judgment

    • Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to members of the National Restaurant Association on Monday, May 19, 2008, in Chicago. McCain accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment Monday, for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the old Soviet Union did in its day. Photo

      Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to members of the National Restaurant Association on Monday, May 19, 2008, in Chicago. McCain accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment Monday, for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the old Soviet Union did in its day.  (AP)

    • Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks at a town hall meeting in Billings, Mont., Monday, May 19, 2008. Photo

      Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks at a town hall meeting in Billings, Mont., Monday, May 19, 2008.  (AP)

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(CBS/AP)  Republican John McCain accused Democrat Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the Soviet Union did in its day.

The likely GOP presidential nominee made the criticism Monday in Chicago, Obama's home turf.

"Such a statement betrays the depth of Senator Obama's inexperience and reckless judgment. These are very serious deficiencies for an American president to possess," McCain said in an appearance at the restaurant industry's annual meeting.

He was referring to comments Obama made Sunday in Pendleton, Ore.: "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela - these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying, `We're going to wipe you off the planet."'

A video clip of Obama making the comments was distributed Monday by McCain's campaign.

McCain listed the dangers he sees from Iran: It provides deadly explosive devices used to kill U.S. soldiers in Iraq, sponsors terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East and is committed to the destruction of Israel.

"The threat the government of Iran poses is anything but tiny," McCain said.

Responding to McCain, Obama told a town hall rally later Monday in Billings, Mont., "Let me be absolutely clear: Iran is a grave threat." But the Soviet Union posed an added threat, he said. "The Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear weapons, and Iran doesn't have one."

Obama said the threat from Iran had grown as a result of the U.S. war in Iraq. "Iran is the biggest single beneficiary of the war in Iraq," he said. "John McCain wants to double down that failed policy." If McCain is elected, Obama said, "We'll keep talking tough in Washington, while countries like Iran ignore our tough talk."

The alternative, Obama said, is to follow the example of Presidents Kennedy and Reagan who negotiated with the Soviet Union. Obama called for "tough, disciplined and direct diplomacy. That's what Kennedy did; that's what Reagan did."

Obama's "words sound strong, but he is playing defense, and you'd think he wouldn't want to be doing that, especially against John McCain," said CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds.

Although the Democratic primary race rolls on, McCain and Obama have criticized each other as if they are in the general election campaign. On Friday, Obama called McCain's tough-guy foreign policy "naive and irresponsible;" McCain questioned whether Obama has the strength and judgment to be commander in chief.

At the heart of the dispute between the candidates is Obama's assertion that, as president, he would meet with leaders of these rogue countries without preconditions. Obama insists that direct engagement with the Soviets helped prevent nuclear war and, over time, helped to bring down the Berlin Wall.

McCain strongly disagrees with Obama's position; he argues such a meeting would lend international prestige to U.S. foes.

"An unconditional summit meeting with the next American president would confer both international legitimacy on the Iranian president and could strengthen him domestically, when he is very unpopular among the Iranian people," McCain said.

His remarks were interrupted for several moments by three protesters from the Code Pink anti-war group, one of whom yelled, "No war in Iran!" as she was hustled from the room.

McCain prefaced his speech to the National Restaurant Association with criticism of Obama but then focused mostly on economic issues. He said Obama and his Democratic rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, would raise taxes and regulate businesses "more than ever."

The Arizona senator has been trying to counter the allegation by Democrats that McCain would continue Bush administration policies.

Yet McCain's arguments on Monday - on tax cuts, trade agreements and farm subsidies - mirror those of President Bush.

McCain said that letting the Bush tax cuts expire, as the Democrats would do, would raise taxes by a trillion dollars or more. And he said Obama was wrong to oppose the North American Free Trade Agreement, a pact that, though still controversial after more than a decade, resulted in an estimated $17 billion dollars in exports from Illinois alone.

McCain said farm subsidy payments, like those in the farm bill Congress recently sent to Bush, are the biggest obstacle to global trade deals. Like McCain, Bush dislikes the bill and is threatening to veto it.

"Here we are at a time when food prices are at historic highs, and farm income is up by 56 percent in just the past two years," McCain said. "Yet even now, the Congress has voted to give billions of dollars in subsidies to some of the biggest and richest agribusiness corporations in America."

The Illinois Farm Bureau and other farm groups point out that high energy prices have driven up the costs farmers pay to produce their crops.

"Farmers are in the middle of planting the most expensive crop in history," Illinois Farm Bureau President Philip Nelson said last week.

Acknowledging he was in Obama territory, McCain said he agreed with Illinois Democrats that Obama is the right choice to be their senator.

"I couldn't agree more, and I promise to do everything in my power to help him finish his first term in the United States Senate," McCain quipped.

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by trishab4 May 19, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
CBS: Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to members of the National Restaurant Association on Monday, May 19, 2008, in Chicago. McCain accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment Monday, for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the old Soviet Union did in its day.

-This McCane has a fixation on the past.

-McCane stop believing the Iranians are the ones who tortured you, in Saigon! It''s VietKong who did! You are suffering the same syndrom Israelis are toward Palestinians.

-McCane get over it. And hopefully America will kick your sorry arse back into the nursing home, in Nov08.
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by smashwl7 May 19, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
I have four important questions for Bush, McCain and the GOP!

1. Is Iran stronger or weaker since Bush%u2019s invasions of Iraq?

2. Has Osama bin Laden been killed or captured since Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

3. Are we paying less for gas now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

4. Is our economy better of now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

If you answer these questions truthfully, is there any way you want to continue down the same foreign policy blunders of the last seven years?

This is a not a difficult question, most 3rd graders could answer this one.
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by ubrew12 May 19, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
Article: "Republican John McCain accused Democrat Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the Soviet Union did in its day."

In its day, the Soviet Union had thousands of nukes aimed at the U.S. (some from as close as Cuba), the worlds largest army occupying half of Europe and preparing to swallow the other half, and was actively instigating communist revolutions all over the world. In its day the Soviet military rivalled the U.S. military, and even surpassed it in certain fields. In its day the Soviets beat us into space.

If McCain thinks Iran poses even 1/100th the threat to America that the Soviet Union did in its day, then he''s either dumber than I thought, or a much more astute observer of how dumb Americans are about history and geography than I thought. My guess is the latter.
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by smashwl7 May 19, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
I have four important questions for Bush, McCain and the GOP!

1. Is Iran stronger or weaker since Bush%u2019s invasions of Iraq?

2. Has Osama bin Laden been killed or captured since Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

3. Are we paying less for gas now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

4. Is our economy better of now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

If you answer these questions truthfully, is there any way you want to continue down the same foreign policy blunders of the last seven years?

This is a not a difficult question, most 3rd graders could answer this one.
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by ubrew12 May 19, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
Article: "McCain said that letting the Bush tax cuts expire, as the Democrats would do, would raise taxes by a trillion dollars or more"

Apparently, McCain is another one of those Republicans who never met a public expense he didn''t want to charge to his grandkids. What would a trillion dollars do? Leave us with only an $8.5 trillion debt to go toward a balanced federal government.

Haven''t Reagan/Bush/McCain charged enough of their political lives to their grandchildren??
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by trishab4 May 19, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
CBS: Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to members of the National Restaurant Association on Monday, May 19, 2008, in Chicago. McCain accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of inexperience and reckless judgment Monday, for saying Iran does not pose the same serious threat to the United States as the old Soviet Union did in its day.

-This McCane has a fixation on the past.

-McCane stop believing the Iranians are the ones who tortured you, in Saigon! It''''''''s VietKong who did! You are suffering the same syndrom Israelis are toward Palestinians.

-McCane get over it. And hopefully America will kick your sorry arse back into the nursing home, in Nov08.


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Posted by trishab4 at 03:20 PM : May 19, 2008

learn to spell and someone might take any of your posts seriously
Posted by jamesm12341 at 03:23 PM : May 19, 2008

-So jamesm12341, you think that because I mispell things, my comments got no content, right!

-This old senile thinks Iran represents more danger to the States than what Russia represented back then? I am LMAO!

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by lorinkundert May 19, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
I don''t care if McCain doesn''t agree with Obama or if Obama doesn''t agree with McCain. I want to know what you are going to do.
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by noloyalisti May 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
I think it is amusing for McSame to critisize Obama. Here is a guy who voted overwhelmingly (more than 90% of the time) to support Bush''s failed policies.

I really like that Obama can (and does and will) so easily discredit these war criminals in public and in front of the America people. Bush and McBush are moronic idiots. Go ahead and Swiftboat Barack (make his and our day).
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by shingles1 May 19, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
If McCain seriously thinks that Iran, which has NO nuclear weapons, is as big a threat to the US as the Soviet Union, who had thousands of nuclear warheads aimed AT OUR CITIES and millions of troops under its command, then all of his supposed foreign policy experience is a joke.
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by smashwl7 May 19, 2008 4:06 PM PDT
I have four important questions for Bush, McCain and the GOP!

1. Is Iran stronger or weaker since Bush%u2019s invasions of Iraq?

2. Has Osama bin Laden been killed or captured since Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

3. Are we paying less for gas now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

4. Is our economy better of now or before Bush%u2019s invasion of Iraq?

If you answer these questions truthfully, is there any way you want to continue down the same foreign policy blunders of the last seven years?

This is a not a difficult question, most 3rd graders could answer this one.


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by smashwl7 May 19, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
wow, the conventions haven''''t even been held yet and look how HOT this campaign already is. this is going to be one of the angriest campaigns you''''ve ever seen in this country, kids. and when 5% of democrats don''''t vote for the democrat and 5% actually vote for the republican, well, you do the math.


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Posted by ccfsdca

Your funny you do not have a clue keep dreaming, I will wake you up in November.
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by lawyertom1 May 19, 2008 4:14 PM PDT
I find it fascinating that John McCain, Mr. Foreign Policy, is so incredibly ignorant of the internal factions inside Iran, and how it might be in the interest of the U.S. to fashion a foreign policy toward Iran accordingly. Play with the stereotypes, John, but it is sad to see someone who use to be smart talking so incredibly stupid. I know, I know. It is all an act because the Republicans have nothing to run on but creating the great bugaboo.
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
Remember when the democrats took over congress in 2006, promising to reduce the cost of gas, the economy has taken a turn for the worst. Wait until he gives our country away to our enemy and you will be paying triple the taxes than you do now.


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Posted by Orgone at 04:09 PM : May 19, 2008
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Please tell us all what McSame will do different than the PATHETIC piece of human trash we have now? This poor simple minded loser, McSame, care''s only about war and more war. He''s so set on attacking Iran he can taste it and IF we elect him, he WILL start a war with them within 6 months. Sieg Heil Bush
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
"and when 5% of democrats don''''t vote for the democrat and 5% actually vote for the republican, well, you do the math.

Posted by ccfsdca at 03:42 PM : May 19, 2008"


You''ve proven pretty convincingly that math is not your strong suit.


This is why McSame will loose:


"The Arizona senator has been trying to counter the allegation by Democrats that McCain would continue Bush administration policies.

Yet McCain''s arguments on Monday - on tax cuts, trade agreements and farm subsidies - mirror those of President Bush."

Bush III...how nice.
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:17 PM PDT
yep



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Posted by jamesm12341 at 03:53 PM : May 19, 2008
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YOU are an ARROGANT Bootlicker swastika breath, what would YOU know about NORMAL People who make NORMAL mistakes. Now lets put that pointed hat on... sing it out so the fuhrer can hear you!! Ready?? SIEG HEIL BUSH!! Good bootlicker... I''ll make sure you get a NEW magic Swastika at the next Klan rally!! Where does slime like this come from???
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
If McCain seriously thinks that Iran, which has NO nuclear weapons, is as big a threat to the US as the Soviet Union, who had thousands of nuclear warheads aimed AT OUR CITIES and millions of troops under its command, then all of his supposed foreign policy experience is a joke.


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Posted by shingles1 at 04:02 PM : May 19, 2008
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I agree. This old LOSER can''t wait to get his hands on our Military... he wants war and more war... It would be the biggest mistake this nation has EVER made to elect this tired old man... He''s to old and to stuck on Bush.
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by andylance1 May 19, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
According to Obama, "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela %u2014 these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don''t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us."

Obama is the worst person possible to be president. What makes Iran so dangerous is that they are religious fanatics vowing to destroy America and Israel.

The leaders of the Soviet Union on their worst day were rational. You could deal with them. They were not religious fanatics from the Middle Ages.

It is really scary to think Obama can deal with fanatics, unless he is one of them himself.
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
"Wait until he gives our country away to our enemy and you will be paying triple the taxes than you do now.

Posted by Orgone at 04:09 PM : May 19, 2008"


I''m going to really enjoy taking a pi$$ in your Wheaties in November. Just in case I don''t get the chance to say it to you in person in November....we win, you loose, ROTFLMAO...at you.
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by trishab4 May 19, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
Posted by MCVet at 04:17 PM : May 19, 2008
Posted by jh6379 at 04:17 PM : May 19, 2008

-LMOA, thanks boys, girls for summerizing my thoughts.
-Got to go, visitng a hospitalized friend!
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
"John McCain has a honorable past as a heroic soldier and a man of great principle.

Posted by Orgone at 04:09 PM : May 19, 2008"



Yea, gotta love those real Republicans values and principles of his, like leaving his wife while she''s in the hospital with cancer, like defrauding the savings and loan industry, like filling his campaign with paid lobbyists. Nothing like those principles is there.
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
"Obama is the worst person possible to be president. What makes Iran so dangerous is that they are religious fanatics vowing to destroy America and Israel.

The leaders of the Soviet Union on their worst day were rational. You could deal with them. They were not religious fanatics from the Middle Ages.

Posted by andylance1 at 04:19 PM : May 19, 2008"


I can''t tell which is more appalling, your horse$hit historic knowledge, your horse$hit religious knowledge or your horse$hit political knowledge.

It''s called diplomacy ******, it''s what nations do to solve their differences. Your knee-jerk 4th grade response to foreign policy is only rivaled by McCains foolishness. You have two choices pin head, talk to them or nuke them, the latter will end up in mutual assured destruction.
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:26 PM PDT
Obama is the worst person possible to be president. andylance1

Andy, you are about 8 years too late to give Obama that title as GWB will go down in history owning that dubious lable. :)
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by mjvw2 May 19, 2008 4:26 PM PDT
please mr. ackmadenajad (sic) sit and sing kum-by-ya with us
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by DaveGress May 19, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
Orgone - all your points are mute. McCaine would lose to any candidate: black, white, yellow, tan, man, woman, transexual. Americans wont be fooled again! Bush will always be the last on the list and McCaine can''t do anything to erase that memory. He could be the best thing since sliced bread but he will be a looser this November thanks to the one and only idiot president in the history of the US.
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
"ouch!! and you are how old?

Posted by jamesm12341 at 04:25 PM : May 19, 2008"


Apparently old enough to know you''re a tool.
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
Remember when the democrats took over congress in 2006, promising to reduce the cost of gas, the economy has taken a turn for the worst. Wait until he gives our country away to our enemy and you will be paying triple the taxes than you do now.

Posted by Orgone at 04:09 PM : May 19, 2008

***, you ''nutcases'' are so silly and greedy. You don''t give the slightest bit of care to all the injustices the GOP commit or the way they have ruined the country. You are just so one-dimesional (they are going to raise taxes). You fruitcakes make me laugh! Go Obama! Go DEMs! Lets take back our country. My man, buy you a one-way ticket to Canada...and don''t come back.
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by oscarez May 19, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
I do believe that if Obama said "black is black" that McCain would say "it''s Obama''s inexperience and reckless judgment to say black is black when every one knows black is white".
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by tibu987 May 19, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
I applaud Obama for his plan to talk to our enemies, certainly it is somethinhg that Bush and McCain do not understand, it is called diplomacy.

If talking to your adversaries might prevent a physical encounter and the resultant deaths and costs, wouldn''t it be wise to do so?

I am 100% behind Obama''s plan to talk to our enemies or potential enemies.

The alternative is always close at hand and military action is always an alternative.

I believe it was Teddy Roosevelt who said, "speak softly and carry a big stick".
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:33 PM PDT
"Remember when the democrats took over congress in 2006, promising to reduce the cost of gas, the economy has taken a turn for the worst.

Posted by Orgone at 04:09 PM : May 19, 2008"


Huh, no I don''t recall that since gas prices weren''t an issue in 2006.

The only thing you got right in that statement is that the economy took a turn for the worse. Now why would that be? Could it be the collusion betweeen the Bush govenment and the oil industry directed by Cheney with his secret meetings to set energy policy that included only Oil company executives? could it be the disastrous war, which instead of "paying for itself", has cost us a trillion dollars and rising?


Amazing, what can''t revisionist history do!
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
"330 pm looks like taddles is home from school....how did school go today taddles? when are you going to drop out like most of your liberal friends did?

Posted by jamesm12341 at 04:30 PM : May 19, 2008"


Liberals get degrees remember, we''re all elitists...LOL. Isn''t it about time for you to head to third shift at McD''s?
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:36 PM PDT
If McCain seriously thinks that Iran, which has NO nuclear weapons, is as big a threat to the US as the Soviet Union, who had thousands of nuclear warheads aimed AT OUR CITIES and millions of troops under its command, then all of his supposed foreign policy experience is a joke.

Posted by shingles1

So well said. All this proves to me is that the people who support the GOP and Neo-Cons don''t for a moment allow common sense to enter their heads. They hear McSame or Dubya say something and go running. What pitiful idiots!
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by libh8er May 19, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
So well said.
Posted by Tonyd_31 at 04:36 PM : May 19, 2008

It''s not ''well said'' you two imbeciles. I hate it when bedwetting whiners get on here and talk about shiit they know nothing about. Don''t you guys have a *** convention to go to or something?
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
"330 pm looks like taddles is home from school....how did school go today taddles? when are you going to drop out like most of your liberal friends did?

Posted by jamesm12341 at 04:30 PM : May 19, 2008"


Have YOU ever, even ONCE in your entire life come up with an orginal thought. ALL I''ve ever heard out of your stupid boot polished covered mouth is "Liberal''s" did it. Bush LIES to us, "Liberals" did it. Bush can''t manage our budget, "Liberals" did it. You know they DO have night courses at most High Schools... there you can learn what the meaning of the Word Liberal is and the fact that ALL, yep sparky ALL our greatest Leaders were liberal. In fact the GREATEST Generation is also the MOST liberal, well except for the first! Now stand and put on that swastika... let heir Cheney KNOW you are licking those boots today!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!!
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
"It''''s not ''''well said'''' you two imbeciles. I hate it when bedwetting whiners get on here and talk about shiit they know nothing about. Don''''t you guys have a *** convention to go to or something?

Posted by LibH8er at 04:38 PM : May 19, 2008"


The great pi$$-boy hates it when libs agree with each other. Oh the horror...how terrible. What is with your fascination with urine? Do you have some kind of scatological fetish? It''s always about bed-wetting with you...perhaps you still have a fetish about wearing diapers.
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
I applaud Obama for his plan to talk to our enemies, certainly it is somethinhg that Bush and McCain do not understand, it is called diplomacy.

Posted by tibu987

You are an intelligent person. I don''t understand why the Neo-cons and the brainwashed jellyfish don''t understand this. I guess they think they can silence or ignore them to death. Or that if one is blessed enough to talk to the American officials, gold will rain down. They are so stupid. If GWB or McSame said it, then it must be right. I am almost tired of laughing today.
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
I do believe that if Obama said "black is black" that McCain would say "it''''s Obama''''s inexperience and reckless judgment to say black is black when every one knows black is white".


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Posted by Oscarez at 04:31 PM : May 19, 2008
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LOL LOOK at his RECORD! LOOK at the Record of the Republican Party... what else can the pathetic old fool do?? ROFLMAO He''s toast... EVEN with all the fight the Democrats have had, even with all the negatives and even when the press give''s him a free pass he still can''t overtake EITHER of them.
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:44 PM PDT
LibH8er, crawl under a rock...You little sissy. Count your blessings that this is just a posting site as I would be glad to smack you around for real. But you idiots are not familiar with reality because you are in a brainwashed fog. Poor little lady!
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by libh8er May 19, 2008 4:45 PM PDT
taddles,
Even your name reeks of bedwetting, crybaby lib. You are a pathetic little limp wristed dolt. Don''t forget to go make the payments on your rental furniture - loser!
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by oscarez May 19, 2008 4:45 PM PDT
What, do you have something to say LibH8er? We can''t hear you!!
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
It''''s not ''''well said'''' you two imbeciles. I hate it when bedwetting whiners get on here and talk about shiit they know nothing about. Don''''t you guys have a *** convention to go to or something?


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Posted by LibH8er at 04:38 PM : May 19, 2008
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Well help us out here you PATHETIC NAZI!! Explain to all of us HOW Iran is WORSE than the Soviet Union. Now Sparky I grew up during the Cold War, remember the Cuban Missle Crisis and what Nukes can do... So PLEASE tell me how Iran is more of a Threat than the USSR! God you slime dogs will do or say anything to protect the "party" won''t you!! Stand up here... click those heels together... Act like a bootlicker who will follow the fuhrer to the bunker!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! SIEG HEIL McSAME!! Dumb as a box of rocks!!
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by libh8er May 19, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
We can''''t hear you!!
Posted by Oscarez at 04:45 PM : May 19, 2008

Get the weiners out of your ears!!! LOL
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
2 questions for you whackjob....what is "orginal"?

and when have I ever posted the "liberals did it"?


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Posted by jamesm12341 at 04:44 PM : May 19, 2008
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Like I said... TAKE a night class or two.. EDUCATE yourself.. You aren''t even smart enough to know a "Liberal" if one bit you and Orginal means something that YOU thought of, a position that is NOT one of the "party" or one of their talking heads. You have accused at least 90% of the people who post on here of being "Liberal". I''m a LIBERAL as was my father before me, HE was part of the Greatest Generation. You have YET to properly relate to people what a liberal is or what they stand for. YOU are just an Ignorant Bootlicker who was given a hate target and you use it.. PLEASE take a night course or too... PLEASE!! Sieg Heil Bush
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
"taddles,
Even your name reeks of bedwetting, crybaby lib. You are a pathetic little limp wristed dolt. Don''''t forget to go make the payments on your rental furniture - loser!

Posted by LibH8er at 04:45 PM : May 19, 2008"


So you do have a scatological hangup. Are you one of those "golden shower boys"? Do you wear diapers to work? Don''t they show through the McDonald''s uniform? you know if I had a really freaky urine fetish, I''m not sure I would get on a public forum and advertise that fact..unless of course you are doing so trolling for a date. Not sure your gonna find to many scat and pi$$ fetishists on this forum to hook up with.
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by apinchofsalt May 19, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
Obama has no idea what he is doing...
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
I hate it when bedwetting whiners get on here and talk about shiit they know nothing about.

Posted by LibH8er

Well little lady, why don''t you send a posting to the rest of your neo-con idiots as you are the only whiners who get on here talking about things you don''t know. You just regurgitate the ''bs'' you hear from the drug addict Rush, Hannity, and and the rest of the Fox crew. Common sense is a myth for you guys. If you had just the slightest, you would be on here begging for forgiveness for ever helping the current regime for getting in power.
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:52 PM PDT
oh mcvet...won''''t your therapist get mad at you for posting?? it is a detriment to your healing from ptsd


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Posted by jamesm12341 at 04:46 PM : May 19, 2008
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Please take a NIGHT COURSE... LEARN what a LIBERAL is an what they stand for... I''m help with the cost. When I think of all the great things LIBERALS have done for this nation... EVERY right we have is because of them. How they have stood up and fought for people and their rights... faced guard dogs, beatings and so much more... I mean your stupidity about it all just stuns me. SIEG HEIL BUSH
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by libh8er May 19, 2008 4:53 PM PDT
I applaud Obama for his plan to talk to our enemies, certainly it is somethinhg that Bush and McCain do not understand, it is called diplomacy.
Posted by tibu987

I bet you would. It''s called appeasment and surrender. Something bedwetting lib democrats know about all too well.
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by taddles-2009 May 19, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
"Well little lady, why don''''t you send a posting to the rest of your neo-con idiots as you are the only whiners who get on here talking about things you don''''t know.

Posted by Tonyd_31 at 04:51 PM : May 19, 2008"


I didn''t know libh8er was a chick....I just thought he was a ******.
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by mcvet May 19, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Obama has no idea what he is doing...


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Posted by apinchofsalt at 04:51 PM : May 19, 2008
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How''s that? Now I listened to that speech and he sure sounded to me like he was right on target. He MOST certainly was the other day when he cracked that pathetic LOSER Bush in the mouth.. so YOU tell us, how is Iran a bigger threat than the USSR. I''ll wait! Sieg Heil Bush
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by tonyd_31 May 19, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Obama has no idea what he is doing...

Posted by apinchofsalt

And GWB does, huh? Well at least if Obama messes up as much as he did, you can vote him out after 4 years but that seems like an improbability. No one can do a worser job than the current prez (well maybe McSame can since he wants to continue his failed policies)
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