Obama Lashes Back At Bush, McCain

Following Flap Over Bush's Comments In Israel, Dem Candidate Lambastes McCain On Foreign Policy

(CBS/AP)  Barack Obama rebuked Republican rival John McCain and President Bush for "dishonest, divisive" attacks in hinting that the Democratic presidential candidate would appease terrorists, staunchly defending his national security credentials for the general election campaign.

Obama responded Friday to Mr. Bush's speech Thursday to the Israeli Knesset. The president referred to the leader of Iran, who has called for the destruction of the U.S. ally, and then said some seem to believe that we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals - comments Obama and Democrats said were directed at them. McCain subsequently said Obama must explain why he wants to talk with rogue leaders.

"I'm a strong believer in civility and I'm a strong believer in a bipartisan foreign policy, but that cause is not served with dishonest, divisive attacks of the sort that we've seen out of George Bush and John McCain over the last couple days," Obama told about 2,000 voters at a town hall-style meeting in a livestock barn.

Obama said McCain had a "naive and irresponsible belief that tough talk from Washington will somehow cause Iran to give up its nuclear program and support for terrorism."

"It was one of the most pugnacious speeches Barack Obama has ever given," said CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds.

During his swing through South Dakota, the Democratic front-runner said he had intended to focus on rural issues, but felt compelled to respond to the criticism from Mr. Bush and McCain.

"They aren't telling you the truth. They are trying to fool you and scare you because they can't win a foreign policy debate on the merits," said Obama. "But it's not going to work. Not this time, not this year."

Mr. Bush did not mention Obama by name in his speech, but Obama and other Democrats said the implication was clear.

"That's exactly the kind of appalling attack that's divided our country and that alienates us from the world," Obama said. He vowed to turn the foreign policy debate back against both Mr. Bush and McCain, rejecting the notion that Democrats critical of the war in Iraq are vulnerable to charges of being soft on terrorism.

"If they want a debate about protecting the United States of America, that's a debate I'm ready to win because George Bush and John McCain have a lot to answer for," Obama said. He blamed Bush's policies for enhancing the strength of terrorist groups such as Hamas and "the fact that al Qaeda's leadership is stronger than ever because we took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan," among other failings.

The Illinois senator also said that he has stated "over and over again that I will not negotiate with terrorists like Hamas."

Later, at a news conference, Obama said he was offended by Mr. Bush's comments and argued that Republican and Democratic presidents, such as John Kennedy, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, had engaged in direct talks with U.S. foes.

"There is a strong bipartisan tradition of engaging in that kind of diplomacy," Obama told reporters.

McCain agreed, at least, that there were huge differences between himself and Obama on foreign policy, and said he'd be happy to let the American people decide who was right.

"It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don't have enemies. But that's not the world we live in. And until Senator Obama understands that reality, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe," McCain said in a speech to the National Rifle Association in Louisville, Ky.

McCain rejected the naive comment, saying Obama should have known better, and added: "Talking, not even with soaring rhetoric, in unconditional meetings with the man who calls Israel 'a stinking corpse,' and arms terrorists who kill Americans, will not convince Iran to give up its nuclear program. It is reckless. It is reckless to suggest that unconditional neetings will advance our interests."

McCan's campaign also responded with a statement which called Obama's speech a "hysterical diatribe."

"It was remarkable to see Barack Obama’s hysterical diatribe in response to a speech in which his name wasn’t even mentioned," said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds. "These are serious issues that deserve a serious debate, not the same tired partisan rants we heard today from Senator Obama."

Other Democrats accused McCain of hypocrisy Friday, saying the certain GOP presidential nominee had previously been willing to negotiate with the militant Palestian group Hamas.

In Charleston, W.Va., speaking before Obama's speech, McCain told reporters: "I made it very clear, at that time, before and after, that we will not negotiate with terrorist organizations, that Hamas would have to abandon their terrorism, their advocacy to the extermination of the state of Israel, and be willing to negotiate in a way that recognizes the right of the state of Israel and abandons their terrorist position and advocacy."

McCain contended that Obama wants to "sit down and negotiate with a government exporting most lethal devices used against soldiers. He wants to sit down face-to-face with a government that is very clear about developing nuclear weapons. ... They are sponsors of terrorist organizations. That's a huge difference in my opinion. And I'll let the American people decide whether that's a significant difference or not. I believe it is."

In an op-ed published Friday in The Washington Post, former Clinton State Department official James Rubin said that McCain, responding to a question in a television interview two years ago about whether U.S. diplomats should be working with the Hamas government in Gaza, said:

"They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy toward Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice, so ... But it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."

Rubin, who interviewed McCain for the British network Sky News, said McCain is "guilty of hypocrisy" and accused him of "smearing" Obama.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joe Biden, D-Del., noted in an interview with CNN Friday that the Bush administration has negotiated with rogue leaders in North Korea and Libya.

"This is pure hypocrisy, but the worst part about it is, think how it falls on the ears in capitals of Europe and the rest of the world and Toyko when the president of the United States says under no condition will we talk to anybody like that, and John McCain, the nominee for the Republican Party, who may very well be president of the United States, is saying the same thing," Biden said.

Mr. Bush's speech at Israel's Knesset spoke of the president of Iran, who has called for the destruction of the U.S. ally. Then, the president said: "Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along."

"We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is - the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history," Mr. Bush added.

The White House denied Mr. Bush had targeted Obama, who said the Republican commander in chief's intent was obvious.

"It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence to launch a false political attack," Obama said in a statement his aides distributed on Thursday. "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the president's extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.

Hillary Rodham Clinton called Mr. Bush's original comments "offensive and outrageous, especially in light of his failures in foreign policy."

"I have differences with Senator Obama on certain foreign policy matters, but I think we are united in our opposition to the Bush policies and to the continuation of those policies by Senator McCain." Clinton has criticized Obama in the past for his pledge to meet with prominent adversaries of the United States without precondition.

[mike71067]

Bush is right about this. Obama is an idiot, and anybody would be better than Obama in the White House.

[mudrose-2009]

He just proved Bush''s point. The guy is a panderer and an appeaser. One of his staff members was communicating with Hamas. Who''s he kidding. Seems to me that the only people that are disturbed by Bush''s foreign policies are Pewlosi, Levin, Biden, Kerry and Hamas, Herzbollah, and Ahmie. This guy is Neville Chamberlain reincarnate with an attitude. Smug little *****, too. Go take a leak, you are pissing the fierce urgency of studpidity.

[jack3213]

MUDROSE: EXCELLENT POST! THANKS FOR THAT! I FULLY AGREE !!

[jjp735i]

CBS reports McCain pretty much said the same thing. More Bushit from the right it seems just to cause a stir of fear.

[remco82]

Hey mike71067: The idiot is the cowboy who rides a bike around his "ranch" (a place with no crops or livestock), who holds an axe cross-handed when he tries to clear brush for a photo-op, who has had everything, including an Ivy League education, handed to him on a plate, and who has never done a real day''s work in his entire life!

[armydog2]

"Peace through strength is the way we achieve peace in the world" Mccain''s words. You can be strong and decisive with diplomacy to achieve peace. blowing up countries is not strength,killing how many innocent people is not strength, 935 lies to start a war is not strength, killing over 4000 of our courageous Military members is not strength, it is cowardice at it''s finest. The war for Oil is a war for the beast, the war on terror is a war on Peace!

[ioweign]

Another McCain Flip-Flop ---

"When he was in Davos (Switzerland) amongst the European crowd and I interviewed him there two years ago, he was talking as if it was appropriate and natural and reasonable to negotiate with Hamas, the new government of the Palestinian territories," Rubin said.

"And then two years later, he''s taking a very, very different position ... smearing people for suggesting that one ought to talk to Hamas when it was he himself who was prepared to talk to Hamas two years ago."

McCain, the presumptive 2008 Republican presidential nominee, said the United States would not be able to avoid a dialogue with the Islamic militant group.

"They''re the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another," he said at the time. "And I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice ...

"But it''s a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."

[taylor2124]

McCain has more foreign policy wisdom in his a*ss than Obama Mandingo will have even 20 years from now. What joke to even compare these two. It''s like comparing the CEO of GE with the guy who changes the water coolers in the cafeteria.

[allamr18]

Bush shouldnt have made any comparison to Nazi appeasers considering his grandgfather funded the nazi war movement. And the assertion that the only way to solve a problem is the way weve been doing it for the last 8 years is rediculous. How has it worked thus far? it hasnt this is why bush is graveling to the saudis for oil, the same group of people involved in the 9/11 attacks.

[jack3213]

YOU SHOULL BE SCARED- IF YOU HAVE NO EXPERIANCE IN THE SENATE AND BLOW YOUR PIE HOLE THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE MEETING TERRORISTS..IF YOU''RE NOT PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE SCARED OF YOU!

[armydog2]

In bush''s speech he refers to a Senator who claimed he would have liked to talk to Hitler. That Senator was a Republican, so I guess he was an appeaser.

[newsjunky5]

"We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ''Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.''"
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That Senator was right, maybe it could have. It could not have hurt or delayed a military response, as we didn''t go when Hitler went into Poland. Bush offers no evidence the other way, only jingoism.

I am not interested in nor will I watch a McCain/Obama debate.

[mbcsmith]

barrack wants the president of the United States to have an unconditional meet with the leader of a state sponsor of terror who is killing our troops and building a nuclear program in defiance of the world. What''s he going to say? Stop it?
OBAMA IS DANGEROUS TO OUR INTERESTS AND SECURITY!

[joecoolswat]

Hey Barrack OCarter ....if the terrorist''s shoe fits, wear it !, Bush named no-one specifically, but the Democrats have their pantys in a bunch....what does that tell you...

[jack3213]

ALLAMR- IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO- I AM SO TIRED OF EVERYONE BLAMING BUSH FOR EVERY LITTLE THING- YOU ALL GIVE HIM FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR HIS ABILITIES -BY BLAMING HIM YOU SAY HE CAN''T CONTROL EVERYTHING AND THAT SUCKS- MY GOD- GET REAL!

[mbcsmith]

Bush offers no evidence the other way, only jingoism.


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Posted by newsjunky5 at 01:11 PM : May 16, 2008


He offers the history of appeasement as a failed policy.

[ioweign]

Bush is right about this. Obama is an idiot, and anybody would be better than Obama in the White House.

Posted by mike71067 at 01:02 PM : May 16, 2008

CNN Poll
Is it "appeasement" for the U.S. to talk with its enemies?

Yes 18%

No 82%

Evidently you are part of the Bush 20 percent

[mudrose-2009]

Bush shouldnt have made any comparison to Nazi appeasers considering his grandgfather funded the nazi war movement. And the assertion that the only way to solve a problem is the way weve been doing it for the last 8 years is rediculous. How has it worked thus far? it hasnt this is why bush is graveling to the saudis for oil, the same group of people involved in the 9/11 attacks.


Posted by Allamr18

You really shouldn''t go to places that make you look stupid. John Kennedy''s father was rather found of Hitler that''s why he was recalled home from England.
President Bush was speaking to the people of Israel about how the world tried to appease Hitler, the point being you cannot appease a madman. As John McCain said Ahmie said Israel is a "stinking corpse" what''s to talk about. Get real, wake up.

[joecoolswat]

sesanders1....you don''t want to see McCain "cream" Barrack OCarter ? (excuse the pun "")

[roger_inkart]

The guy is a panderer and an appeaser.

Posted by mudrose at 01:04 PM : May 16, 2008

Ah, picked up the latest talking points eh? My, what a good little rightwing shill you are. You don''t even know what the word ''appeaser'' means. And BTW - Neville Chamberlain WAS A CONSERVATIVE!

Obama has snapped back against you slimeballs. And, like any bully, when called out you will shrink like little children.

C''mon, GOP make every election this fall about Obama! Please. You idiots are 0 for 3 so far when you do that.

[puldr]

Bush has been an idiot from the beginning, about foreign (and domestic) policies that have screwed up this country! Hopefully we can get out of the abyss that he has managed to push us into with better leadership at the white house.

[joecoolswat]

IOWEIGN....The United States has a firm policy that we do not negotiate with terrorists...Period !

[allamr18]

I dont give him credit for anything except the stuff hes done. the idiocy behind his presidency and the unbelievable stupidity behind his policies. he hasnt explained anything about this war with iraq which has strengthened iran and al qaeda but he did give up golf for the troops. his a joke and an embarrassment.

[mudrose-2009]

Bush has been an idiot from the beginning, about foreign (and domestic) policies that have screwed up this country! Hopefully we can get out of the abyss that he has managed to push us into with better leadership at the white house.
Posted by puldr

Unfortunately, Bush had to clean up the Clintoon mess which is what brought about foreign policy. The fig newton was too busy playing with himself to worry about national security and hence 9/11. Bush did a good job of defending the country and we have smug little ****** like Effendi Snob-oma thinking he''s gonna score points with his base by attacking a sitting President who''s not running for office. He''s full of ****** and he is a pander and appeaser. The only one''s upset with foreign policy are Pewlosi, Levin, Kerry, Effendi Snob-oma, Hamas, Herzbollah and Ahmie.

[johnny343sc]

GEE, I WONDER WHY OBAMA BIN LADEN IS SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE...?

WE''VE TRIED PLENTY OF TALK WITH IRAN, SYRIA, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, ETC. THEY DON''T LISTEN. THE LAST THING LEFT FOR US IS APPEASEMENT AND TALKING TO THEM IS DOING JUST THAT.

OBAMA BIN LADEN IS AN IDIOT.

;)

[armydog2]

hey mudrose nice comeback, IOWEIGN got you good and that is all you can come up with go chage your tampon.
jACKA-S-S!

[allamr18]

whose trying to appease a madman? negotiation and diplomacy is nowhere near an appeasement. saying you need to do this or x y and z will happen is not the same thing as saying if you stop we will give you this. no one wanted to give hitler anything nor do we want to give hamas or madenajahd anything we want it to end and the stuff we are doing currently has not worked. economic sanctions and isolation along with direct diplomacy needs to be integrated into our foriegn policy

[kenbomc]

Bush is right about this. Obama is an idiot, and anybody would be better than Obama in the White House.

Posted by mike71067 at 01:02 PM : May 16, 200
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Yeah...I''m sure everyone trusts Bush''s assessment -it''s done us well in the past. McSame and Bush are insinc. Go Obama''08

[jack3213]

Allamar-said "he hasnt explained anything about this war with iraq which has strengthened iran and al qaeda but he did give up golf for the troops. his a joke and an embarrassment."
SUCH SPIN- BUSH CANNOT CONTROL ALQAEDAS STRENGTH ANY MORE THAN HE CAN TWIST THE ARMS OF IRAN FOR MORE OIL. EXPECTING HIM TO CONTROL OTHERS IS GIVING HIM TOO MUCH CREDIT. YES, HE HAS MADE SOME MISTAKES- BUT CERTAINLY HE HAS PROTECTED THIS COUNTRY SINCE 9/11- BIG!

[ioweign]

Bush is right about this. Obama is an idiot, and anybody would be better than Obama in the White House.

Posted by mike71067 at 01:02 PM : May 16, 2008

CNN Poll
Is it "appeasement" for the U.S. to talk with its enemies?

Yes 18%

No 82%

Evidently you are part of the Bush 20 percent

Posted by IOWEIGN

Go change your tampoon.

Posted by mudrose at 01:15 PM : May 16, 2008

That is on your side of the fence, Muddy, not mine...

Your favorite, Tugboat

[tigerjcs]

Bravo, Bush. Appeasement is the correct remark. Obama feels it fit him, so he is offended by it. Remember, OJ, if the glove doesn''t fit, you must aquit. In another word, if it fit, then you are quilty. It appears, that the glove fits Obama.
NO OBAMA

[johnny343sc]

GEE, I WONDER WHY OBAMA BIN LADEN IS SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE...?

WE''''VE TRIED PLENTY OF TALK WITH IRAN, SYRIA, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, ETC. THEY DON''''T LISTEN- NEITHER DID SADDAM HUSSEIN UNTIL WE KICKED HIS REAR. THE LAST THING LEFT FOR US IS APPEASEMENT/GIVE-IN TO THE ENEMY AND TALKING TO THEM IS DOING JUST THAT.

OBAMA BIN LADEN IS AN IDIOT.

;)

[joecoolswat]

johnny343sc...your right...the only thing rogue dictators and terrorists understand is blast in the face....Ask Momar Kadafi...he shut up for almost 20 years..

[bobnjersey]

boy ... say the word ''appeasement'' and it''s like the lever was pulled ... the wheels turned ... and the apologists freak out ... then all pat each other on the back in agreement.

do you guys realize they ''push your buttons'' with these carefully crafted linguistic constructs?

"The studies explain so much about these people. Yes, the research shows they are very aggressive, but why are they so hostile? Yes, experiments show they are almost totally uninfluenced by reasoning and evidence, but why are they so dogmatic? Yes, studies show the Religious Right has more than its fair share of hypocrites, from top to bottom; but why are they two-faced, and how come one face never notices the other? Yes, their leaders can give the flimsiest of excuses and even outright lies about things they%u2019ve done wrong, but why do the rank-and-file believe them? What happens when authoritarian followers find the authoritarian leaders they crave and start marching together?"

are you guys in step yet?

[allamr18]

Now the first part i agree with. Clinton was terrible and say on his hands all 8 years. did nothing about oil, war, economy, or global warming. however the assertion that this is the only way is appalling.

[walt1944-2009]

The Great Emperor Bush II sees nothing wrong with remarks he made in Isreal and Saudi Arabia and "claims" that they were not "politically motivated".

It has been a long-standing tradition that political attacks on rivals at home do not happen when a dignitary is on a foreign policy visit. However, as everyone on the entire planet knows, traditions mean nothing to the Great Emperor Bush II just as a nation''s sovereignty means nothing to him!

The way the Great Emperor Bush and the rest of the neocon Fascist Nazi GOP see it, we will ultimately have to invade every country in the world before THEY invade us!!!!

Isn''t that called WORLD DOMINIATION, and didn''t someone named Adolph Hitler try that already????

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, DEFIITELY MORE OF THE SAME, McCain!!!!!

[armydog2]

Rice was warned at the meeting clinton staff had with them before he left office. al quaeda looking to use commercial jets. she rebuffed them. bush knew and did nothing.

[johnny343sc]

GEE, I WONDER WHY OBAMA BIN LADEN IS SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE...?

WE''''''''VE TRIED PLENTY OF TALK WITH IRAN, SYRIA, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, ETC. THEY DON''''''''T LISTEN- NEITHER DID SADDAM HUSSEIN UNTIL WE KICKED HIS REAR. THE LAST THING LEFT FOR US IS APPEASEMENT/GIVE-IN TO THE ENEMY AND TALKING TO THEM IS DOING JUST THAT.

OBAMA BIN LADEN IS AN IDIOT AND A PATHETIC, EFFETE IDEALOCRAT WITH NO GRIP ON THE REALITY OF WOLVES AT AMERICA''S DOOR. SHOWS HOW MUCH HE KNOWS... HE CAN''T EVEN KNOW THAT HIS PREACHER IS PREACHING HATE DIATRIBES FOR 20 YEARS MUCH LESS WHO AMERICA''S REAL ENEMIES ARE.

;)

[johnny343sc]

GEE, I WONDER WHY OBAMA BIN LADEN IS SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE...?

WE''''''''''''''''VE TRIED PLENTY OF TALK WITH IRAN, SYRIA, HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, ETC. THEY DON''''''''''''''''T LISTEN- NEITHER DID SADDAM HUSSEIN UNTIL WE KICKED HIS REAR. THE LAST THING LEFT FOR US IS APPEASEMENT/GIVE-IN TO THE ENEMY AND TALKING TO THEM IS DOING JUST THAT.

OBAMA BIN LADEN IS AN IDIOT AND A PATHETIC, EFFETE IDEALOCRAT WITH NO GRIP ON THE REALITY OF WOLVES AT AMERICA''''S DOOR. SHOWS HOW MUCH HE KNOWS... HE CAN''''T EVEN KNOW THAT HIS PREACHER IS PREACHING HATE DIATRIBES FOR 20 YEARS MUCH LESS WHO AMERICA''''S REAL ENEMIES ARE.

;)

[joecoolswat]

armydog2....true, but you left off an important point...nobody new the time and the place, and no-one knew it would be boxcutters

[riptide213]

Reevaluate our mindset on why we go to or stop a war.

Sadly Operation Iraqi Freedom is now exposed as an avid boondoggle to pursue a political agenda cloaked with propaganda infused with deceit and fear.

Pull out now and let the new Iraqi government sink or swim.

Who or what is left after the dust settles deserves their chance to survive and rebuild a nation on their own at their pace based on their own values.

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other b..... die for his.

George Patton

When doing battle, seek a quick victory.

A protracted battle will blunt weapons and dampen ardor.

If troops lay siege to a walled city, their strength will be exhausted.

If the army is exposed to a prolonged campaign, the nation''s resources will not suffice.

When weapons are blunted, and ardor dampened, strength exhausted, and resources depleted, the neighboring rulers will take advantage of these complications.

Then even the wisest of counsels would not be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.

Therefore, I have heard of military campaigns that were clumsy but swift, but I have never seen military campaigns that were skilled but protracted.

No nation has ever benefited from protracted warfare.

Sun Tzu The Principles of Warfare. The Art of War.

[david1737]

mudrose


You must really hate Reagan for talking to the Soviet Union directly then. That whole ending of the Cold War must really chap you hide.

[tbweb]

Posted by tracymorgano at 01:16 PM : May 16, 2008,,,

You missed your calling, you should have been a comedian, not a blogger! lol

[mudrose-2009]

Rice was warned at the meeting clinton staff had with them before he left office. al quaeda looking to use commercial jets. she rebuffed them. bush knew and did nothing.

Posted by armydog2

Yeah, she was warned. Clinton dismantled intel and she was warned. Why didn''t he take care of the situation when he was in office? WTC I, USS Cole, African Embassies. Yeah, he warned her.

[bobnjersey]

[armydog2....true, but you left off an important point...nobody new the time and the place, and no-one knew it would be boxcutters ]
[Posted by JoeCoolSwat at 01:23 PM : May 16, 2008]

and nobody knew the flight numbers.

[ioweign]

How much does Petraeus pay those Iraqi Sunnis not to be terrorists and turn on all those al-Quaeda in Iraq ?

Oh yeah, money the appeaser talks...

[joecoolswat]

david1737....don''t pull that Bull ***...The USSR was not a rogue terrorist group or dictatorship, but a superpower communist country..

[mudrose-2009]

mudrose


You must really hate Reagan for talking to the Soviet Union directly then. That whole ending of the Cold War must really chap you hide.
Posted by david1737

Boy you people just make things up as you go now don''t you. You stick with the appeaser. He''ll take us right down the road to another terrorist attack and then you can blame Bush for that too.

[mudrose-2009]

George Hypocrit Bush
John (you''''ll never know what my position is i flip flop so much) Mcbush3rdtermcain.
Posted by fedupwithit1

Robotic talking points. They don''t think they just repeat the same ole same ole hype.