A Veto-Proof Vote For Contested Farm Bill

White House Opposed Bill That Includes Big Increases For Farmer Subsidies And Food Stamps

(AP)  Congress sent the White House a huge election-year farm bill Thursday that includes a boost in farm subsidies and more money for food stamps amid rising grocery prices.

Bush has threatened to veto the $290 billion bill, saying it is fiscally irresponsible and too generous to wealthy corporate farmers in a time of record crop prices.

But Congress disagreed, passing the bill by overwhelming margins in both chambers - enough to override a veto. The Senate vote was 81-15, a day after the House approved it with 318 "yes" votes.

Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, a former Republican chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee, voted against the bill.

"I do not believe our nation is best served by this farm bill that continues to make payments that defy common sense, snubs our trading partners, and balloons taxpayer spending," Lugar said.

About two-thirds of the bill would pay for domestic nutrition programs such as food stamps and emergency food aid for the needy. An additional $40 billion is for farm subsidies, while almost $30 billion would go to farmers to idle their land and to other environmental programs.

Agriculture Secretary Ed Schafer again criticized the bill after Tuesday's House vote, saying it has the wrong priorities.

"It does not target help for the farmers who really need it, and it increases the size and cost of government while jeopardizing the future of legitimate farm programs by damaging the credibility of farm bills in general," he said.

Congress has only overridden one veto, on a water projects bill, during Bush's two terms.

Congressional negotiators met for weeks in an effort to come closer to the White House on the amount of money to be paid to wealthy farmers - one of the chief sticking points with the administration. But drastic cuts to subsidies were not possible, lawmakers said, because of the clout of Southern lawmakers who represent rice and cotton farms that are more expensive to run.

"This bill has reform in it," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. "Could we have done more? Perhaps. But if we'd done more we wouldn't have gotten a bill."

The legislation would make small cuts to direct payments that are distributed to some farmers no matter how much they grow. The farm bill also would eliminate some federal payments to individuals with more than $750,000 in annual farm income - or married farmers who make more than $1.5 million.

Individuals who make more than $500,000 or couples who make more than $1 million jointly in nonfarm income also would not be eligible for subsidies.

Under current law, there is no income limit for farmers receiving subsidies, and married couples who make less than one-fourth of their income from farming will not receive subsidies if their joint income exceeds $5 million.

The administration originally proposed a cap for those who make more than $200,000 in annual gross income, but later indicated it could accept a limit of $500,000. Previously, negotiators were considering a $950,000 income cap on farm income.

The bill also would:

• Boost nutrition programs, including food stamps and emergency domestic food aid, by more than $10 billion over 10 years. It would expand a program to provide fresh fruits and vegetables to schoolchildren.
  
• Increase subsidies for certain crops, including fruits and vegetables excluded from previous farm bills.
  
• Extend and expand dairy programs.
  
• Increase loan rates for sugar producers.
  
• Urge the government to buy surplus sugar and sell it to ethanol producers for use in a mixture with corn.
  
• Cut a per-gallon ethanol tax credit for refiners from 51 cents to 45 cents. The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.
  
• Require that meats and other fresh foods carry labels with their country of origin.
  
• Stop allowing farmers to collect subsidies for multiple farm businesses.
  
• Reopen a major discrimination case against the Agriculture Department. Thousands of black farmers who missed a deadline would get a chance to file claims alleging they were denied loans or other subsidies.
  
• Pay farmers for weather-related farm losses from a new $3.8 billion disaster relief fund.
  
• Provide the first-ever infusion of federal farm dollars - more than $400 million - to clean up the Chesapeake Bay.

The bill also includes a few home-state provisions inserted by lawmakers, including tax breaks for Kentucky racehorse owners and additional aid for salmon fishermen in the Pacific Northwest.

Despite the overwhelming vote, the bill does have some farm-state critics.

[hober_mallow]

"Bush has threatened to veto the $290 billion bill, saying it is fiscally irresponsible and too generous to wealthy corporate farmers in a time of record crop prices..."

Replace ''wealthy corporate farmers'' with ''big oil'' and replace ''record crop prices'' with ''record gasoline prices'' and THEN we''ll see if Bush vetoes it !!!

[crater7]

AND HOW DID THE THREE STOOGIES VOTE ON THIS BILL?

OOPS SORRY, I MENT THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES.

GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D" AMERICA.

[walt1944-2009]

The Great Emperor Bush II has threatened to veto a farm bill which HE CLAIMS is fiscally irresponsible!!!

Strangely, there has not been a peep from the Great Emperor at how he could take a surplus handed him by the Clinton administration in 2000 when he took over the throne, and turn it into a MEGA deficit which our great-great-great grandchildren will be paying for!

Despite the Great Emperor''s "twisted" logic, it is expected that Congress will do the UNTHINKABLE and will OVERRIDE the Great Emperor''s veto!

It is either that, or remain in Washington over the Memorial Day holiday for fear of being pelted by farmers throwing ripe tomatoes and rotten eggs at them if they dared return home!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, DEFINITELY MORE OF THE SAME, McCain!!!!

[omnibus66]

Farming is a tough business if you''re not a big corporate operation. You gamble everything you have every year. It only takes one bad weather year to wipe you out.

I had to quit farming about 20 years ago when prices were low and the weather was bad. Back then the corporate farms were just beginning to take over, but they now control the whole thing.

Paying taxpayers money to corporate farms makes no sense. The small farmer is gone forever, and the big boys are just sucking on the government because they can. Can you spell "GREED"?

[my2centss]

"$290 billion"

Just where does this money keep coming from? The dollar will be worth much less. Gas and food will go up because of all this uncontrolled spending.

[naucoming4u]

So 2/3 of the bill is useful in helping the poor/needy/hungry. But it''s the other 1/3 of the bill that is an absolute PIG! (pun intended).

[rudy654-2009]

Cut a per-gallon ethanol tax credit for refiners from 51 cents to 45 cents. The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.
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There you go folks. More money to convert our food into krap, and will be supplied by you and me. Meanwhile, our food will rise in price, what''s left of it, and corporate farmers (not the little guy) will get as rich as the oil execs.

[rudy654-2009]

Require that meats and other fresh foods carry labels with their country of origin.
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I would rather they report if Monsanto created them or something.

[skyk-2009]

Here''''s your demobratic congress giving money to wealthy farmers to keep their land idle. What a laugh. Yep, more demobrats will surely make it better.


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Posted by maxify55 at 06:28 PM : May 15, 2008
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Are you saying there are 82 democrats in congress? Hummm? Your ability to add is as bad or worse than the Bush Administration. This is the result of FEAR my friend.. Politician''s, specifically Republican''s, scared. As they should be!!

[skyk-2009]

Just where does this money keep coming from? The dollar will be worth much less. Gas and food will go up because of all this uncontrolled spending.


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Posted by my2centss at 06:10 PM : May 15, 2008
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You folks never seem to object when the money is going to some corrupt contractor in Iraq... there is just a problem when the money helps REAL Americans huh?

[vincan-2009]

When have republicans cared the least bit about spending money. All they have done is throw money at the wealthiest people with tax cuts, at corporations with subsidies, and at Iraq contractors for war profiteering and fraud. Bush and republicans have no right to say a word about money when they have been so completely uncaring about the poor here in America. Our farmers are critical to us and we need less food coming in from other countries.

[Renegade.Rivers]

Cut a per-gallon ethanol tax credit for refiners from 51 cents to 45 cents. The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.

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If that is the case, then why not allow farmers to grow hemp again? It is the most biodegradable, least stressful crop that can be grown on land, and the oil derived from it can be used for nearly any purpose that petrol based oils can. It can also be used for food, and animal feed and the fiber can be used to make cloth and canvas, as well as rope. Hemp is not the same as marijuana, and has little THC content, which makes it useless to smoke for a "high". Although it can be smoked much like tobacco, but is much safer. All of the propaganda of the 20''s and 30''s was hype, intended to stop its production, because oil companies were worried about the completion from hemp oil. In research that has been done with plastics made from hemp oil, they biodegrade much faster than petrol based plastics. It also does not give off the poisonous gases that petrol based plastics do.

[gce65]

Foghorn Leghorn: "Boy! I say, boy! Give that lame duck Bush some good ol'' down on the farm smackdown!"

Cheney: "I''m a chickenhawk!"

Foghorn: "Ha ha ha! You''re a chickenhawk alright! Shut up before I show you the other use for an ear of corn!"

Cheney: (Puckers up and waddles away)

[veteran72]

Are you saying there are 82 democrats in congress? Hummm? Your ability to add is as bad or worse than the Bush Administration. This is the result of FEAR my friend.. Politician''''s, specifically Republican''''s, scared. As they should be!!


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Posted by skyk at 10:06 PM : May 15, 2008
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A last minute realization that they''re about to have their azzes kicked, but good, come November....LOL....
Too late, Rubber-stampers....you should have voted in the American People''s interest a long, long, LONG, time ago........

[mommakat64]

They are cutting the legs out from under our economy. Wealthy farmers LOVE being paid to grow corn for bio, they get paid more than if it is used for food. All over the world, they''re growing corn for bio instead of wheat and rice. The world economies are going to under and we will have a revolt/depression that will end it all. The "non-wealthy" will only take it so much for so long before they revolt.

[mikekleber]

Okay, let me see if I understand the proposal, Bush does not want to give larger farm operations money, calls it a waste; however, he doesn''t see a problem with the oil companies making obscene profits,(Exxon made 43 billion dollars last year, thats $118 million dollars a day, $4.9 million every hour, $81,800 a minute, and $1363 every second of the day.

Bush truly is an idiot. I thought the bit about giving up golf was his most stupid statement, but he always suprises me with another onee.

[longtree-2009]

Farm subsidies have been around for years and years. They should have ended long ago but special interests have kept them in place. If any business cannot remain competitive without being subsidized, then the business should end. People should do what everybody else does when their job ends, retool and find another job or career.

[jack3213]

"It does not target help for the farmers who really need it, and it increases the size and cost of government while jeopardizing the future of legitimate farm programs by damaging the credibility of farm bills in general,"

[mudrose-2009]

Is this nice we can give aid to big corporate farmers and more food stamps and extended welfare in the form of unemployment to that 5% that can''t find work all on the people''s back. This is how the Dimnowits take your money and they b/itch that big business is robbing you blind.

[antoniof123]

Bush has threatened to veto the $290 billion bill, saying it is fiscally irresponsible and too generous to wealthy corporate farmers in a time of record crop prices.

But Congress disagreed, passing the bill by overwhelming margins in both chambers - enough to override a veto. The Senate vote was 81-15, a day after the House approved it with 318 "yes" votes.

Quick everyone the Republicans are now seeing the light they can be taught. Oh wait it is the fear that they will lose 40 seats in congress maybe more.

I will not be fooled again you had your chance neo cons but you said you were the deciders well, want to bet how much longer you get to decide.

[mcdonaj3]

Hmmm, let''s see, for the purposes of the tax rebate, rich starts at $150,000, but for farmers rich starts at $750,000. I must get a better lobbyist!

[mjvw2]

oh for joy. more of my money going to the LESS FORTUNATE.

[mcdonaj3]

Why are we paying farmers to not grow crops. Has Congress totally lost it!

[usbrit-2009]

I''m all for Congress ramming a Bush veto right back into his sneering little face, but I don''t think this is the one to do it on. The dems have obviously given way too much to the GOPigs and their corporate farmer buddies just to get a bill passed. Sometimes in compromise you just wind up with the worst of both sides - not a good bill.

[talkingham]

I''m just glad that we are helping the millionaire race horse owners in Kentucky, they need so much help to breed pencil legged race horses.

Most fo the not to grow money goes to big corps such as Archer Daniel Midland Corp- notice big corps weren''t listed in the "capped" income group.

Corn is by far the least productive of the crops that can be mixed with alcohols to make fuels that''s why it''s subsidized and that''s why big media is always endorsing it. Glad they blame southern farmers in the article when it''s big corn who drives these absurd bills.

[sjc_1]

"..saying it is fiscally irresponsible..."

What is fiscally irresponsible is adding $4 trillion to the national debt in 7 years, most of it during the 2003-2006 period when the Republicans ran Congress.

[my2centss]

"You folks never seem to object when the money is going to some corrupt contractor in Iraq... there is just a problem when the money helps REAL Americans huh?"

Posted by skyk at 10:07 PM : May 15, 2008

No that is not the case. It just so happens that this article is not about Iraq, and therefore I try to stick to the subject. I am against wasteful government spending no matter where.

I intend to e-mail my reps the following:

I have been reading the news on CBS and then the posts about the news afterwards, and I see a question that needs to be answered. The story was about the 290 billion farm bill subsidy that was approved by Congress and President Bush said he would veto because it is %u201Cfiscally irresponsible and too generous to wealthy corporate farmers in a time of record crop prices%u201D. I don%u2019t see anywhere where people disagree with the Pres, so why don%u2019t BOTH sides, Dems and Repub%u2019s, knowing that he is going to veto it, work (for us, the voters) to scale back the bill into something that would actually work as it should, and would get passed? You can change the bill into any of a hundred different ones over the past couple years to suit your taste, but the idea is the same. Or is it done this way just to shame and embarrass the other party? (BTW, I do not EVER see that a %u201Cspecial interest%u201D group should overpower a vote for American interest by a lawmaker!) If that is the real reason, then I guess we voters in fact do need a third or even fourth political party to offset the between lines bickering.

[forthepeopl1]

ALL AND ANY BILLS THAT IS AND HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH USEING AMERICAN TAX PAYERS MONEY.

SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOLPE. ITS THAT SIMPLE. THIS WAY WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE IN OUR GOVENEMNT, BECAUSE OUR ELECTED WORK FOR LOBBYEST, AND NOT FOR AMERICA, AND AMERICANS

[downsteamjim]

Truly a farm bill. Lots and lots of pork.