May 14, 2008

Obama Defeat Signals Race, Rural Problems

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Barack Obama’s stinging defeat in West Virginia brings a sharp focus on the new coalition he may have to assemble to win the White House in November.

West Viginians rejected the presumptive Democratic nominee by a roughly two-to-one margin, one of the widest margins of the primary season. The outcome was the predictable result of familiar demographics: West Virginia’s relatively poor white voters have been Hillary Rodham Clinton’s base since February.

In a stark rejection of Obama in a state Bill Clinton carried in 1992 and 1996, almost half of the Democratic primary voters - typically the most partisan Democrats in a state - said they’d vote for Republican John McCain rather than Obama in November.

The results also suggested a deeper dissatisfaction among the state’s Democrats with both candidates: John Edwards, who dropped out more than three months ago, registered a substantial 7 percent of the vote, though Clinton immediately used the results to make her own case for electablity.

“I'm more determined than ever to carry on this campaign,” Clinton told a cheering crowd in Charleston, stressing her electablity. “If you give me a chance, Democrats, I’ll come back to West Virginia in the general election, and we’ll win this state, and we’ll win the White House.”

Behind her, a young man waved a bowling pin - a symbol of the cultural distance between Obama, who bowls poorly, and the state’s working-class white voters. Her supporters cheered raucously when numbers showing Clinton’s margin among non-college educated voters flashed on the screen in Charleston.

But with Obama remaining as the likely nominee, the results highlighted the question of exactly how he will beat McCain in November, a question his campaign did not directly address in a memo released a few hours before polls closed.

The memo stressed Obama’s strength in a different group, independent voters.

“Nationally, Obama is running stronger among Independent voters than any winning Presidential candidate since 1988 and is significantly outperforming Sen. Clinton among these voters as well in general election polling,” the memo said.

The memo also dismissed as a “myth” the notion that “Obama cannot perform strongly enough among white voters.”

“Obama ... is running as well or better than past Democratic candidates among white voters,” the memo said, showing he currently holds a share of white support similar to that Al Gore and John Kerry held in their head-to-head contests in 2000 and 2004.

The results on which the campaign is relying indicate that Obama does somewhat better with educated white independent voters than Clinton, making up for his deficit with working-class white voters.

That’s a demographic fact that could change the map in November, pushing Obama’s campaign north and west, and posing problems for him in the crucial rust belt portions of Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Obama aides said Obama called Clinton, but didn’t reach her, after her victory became clear.

But he spent the night in Missouri, and let the West Virginia results pass without comment.

By Ben Smith
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by pepperp1 May 14, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
Undeclared Super Delegates in Ohio

DNC Joyce Beatty
Sen. Sherrod Brown
DNC William Burga
Rep. Marcia Kaptur
Rep. Dennis Kucinich
DNC Ronald Malone
DNC Chris Redfern
Rep. Zack Space
Rep. Charlie Wilson



hiding behind Stricklands coat tails won''t help
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by dnsallday May 14, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
So if WV shows that Obama has problems, than what do the 15 states that Obama won with over 60% of the vote say about Hillary???????

A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE
States & elections won with 60% or more of the vote:
BARACK OBAMA: 15 States + DC VI
* Virgin Islands (89.9%)
* Idaho (79%)
* Hawaii (76%)
* Alaska (75%)
* District of Columbia (75%)
* Kansas (74%)
* Washington (68%)
* Nebraska (68%)
* Minnesota (67%)
* Colorado (67%)
* Georgia (67%)
* Illinois (65%)
* Virginia (64%)
* Maryland (62%)
* North Dakota (61%)
* Wyoming (61%)
* Mississippi (61%)

HILLARY CLINTON: 2 States
* Arkansas (70%)
* West Virginia (67)
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by dnsallday May 14, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
Obama must be doing something right, otherwise why would Hillary lift the best part of her speech last night from Obama?
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by taddles-2009 May 14, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
Not sure why WV is suddenly the bell-weather for this campaign. WV has been the birthplace and home of the klan for 200 years. The amazing fact is that a black man got 91,000 votes in a state with almost no black population at all. Their whole 5 GE electoral votes certainly will not be any earth shaking matter one way or the other.
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by bombadil4 May 14, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
The fact that Obama flew off to Missouri while getting creamed in WV was probably a wise move. Unfortunately he spoiled the evening by promptly stating we need to send more Arabic translators to Afganistan--where of course they don''t speak Arabic. Sadly looks like it will be Bush 3 regardless of whether Obama or McCain win the general election.
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by homespunlady May 14, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
When the Dems finally decide on who - the election will be settled.

I suspect they could run a cardboard cutout and it would win against the ARROGANT NEOCON ROBBER BARONS that have ruined this nation with their "bankrupt the working class" to give "tax breaks" (and special preference) to the WEALTHIEST profiteers.

McCain can STEAL the Democrat "change" all he wants but getting "free volunteers" from LOBBYISTS, collecting campaign "donations" from people in foreign countries, "borrowing" his HEIRESS SECOND WIFE''S PRIVATE CORPORATE JET and "paying for it" with Jet Blue fares IS RIGGING the SYSTEM in favor of his own WEALTHY self and leaves serious questions about WHAT THE PAYBACK would be to his ULTRA-RICH LOBBYIST BACKERS.

BTW will his SECOND wife EVER quit HIDING THE TAX RETURNS he obviously BENEFITS from?

McCain equals MORE OF THE SAME by shafting all but the RICH is the obvious answer.
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by pepperp1 May 14, 2008 2:43 PM EDT

what total *** your name says it all many of these states were less than 2 percent of turn out so 60 percent of nothing...Is their anything about Obama that real or true ?


give it up lies and name calling wont get your guy the White House, McCain will be the next President if he picks the right VP, just as WVA showed last night winning for Clinton with a whopping 73 percent turn out of the base, 73 to Obama States wins on average less that 11 percent turnout, the country is not dumb enough to elect a Party puppet forced on them by Party extremist full of co dependents and co enablers in the house and senate in the same Party we had that for 6 failed years.


A real fact the center is larger than your fringe sect and we will act in our interest together and defeat you DNC fraud
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by jack3213 May 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
It is so absurd- Clinton wins one more state and she thinks she can pull it off- she obviouslly doesn''t know how to do math very well. Obama is a cocky inexperianced naive senator that has avoided so many votes in the senate and Rev Wright on his back. Between the two of them- it is one BIG JOKE
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by likeitis5050 May 14, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
BTW will his SECOND wife EVER quit HIDING THE TAX RETURNS he obviously BENEFITS from?


Since you''re so certain Obama or Clinton will win why do you care about Cindy McCain''s tax return filed separately from John''s? You need to be more concerned about what the CANDIDATES are hiding..especially Obama....mystery man with the hypnotic voice and ability to make stupid people faint on sight.
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by libh8er May 14, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
It doesn''t have much to do with race.....more to do with condesending, elitest libs who think they have all the answers and are smarter than everyone else.

It would appear that the ''bitter God and guns'' folks have spoken.
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by libh8er May 14, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
why do you care about Cindy McCain''''s tax return filed separately from John''''s?
Posted by likeitis5050 at 11:46 AM : May 14, 2008

These bedwetting libs have been whining about this for months. ''Well, Kerry''s wife had to do it, so should McCain''s wife.''

I think the only thing McCain''s wife should release is her bladder.....all over Howie Dean''s desk.
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by libh8er May 14, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
eletist, not eletest
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by marsbabe May 14, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
Hillary is the stonger candidate in a general election. And she has beaten BO in every single major state except his home, and she does better in the all important swing states. BO is just a symptom of the desire for a change of course. It''s an extremely close race and hopefully the super delegates will do what their charter says to do; vote for the best presidential candidate, Hillary. If the Dems used the winner take all scoring used by the Republicans, BO would have been done a long time ago.
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by libh8er May 14, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
elitist...can''t type today!!!!!! 3rd time''s the charm! :)
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by libh8er May 14, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
BO would have been done a long time ago.
Posted by marsbabe at 11:51 AM : May 14, 2008

Well said! And if the LAMEstream media did their job, he would have been done before that!
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by riptide213 May 14, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
Barack Obama is urbane enough to accept the challenge while still gaining experience.

Clearly he is the only candidate offering a breath of potentially fresh political vitality.

Nice to read folks are already referring to The Obamainator as the electable candidate.

Historically no candidate has ever been perfect, no matter how polished or experienced they appeared to the voters of the day. Today%u2019s voters are becoming more discerning.

Thankfully the same old political Playdough recipes are simply not going to cut it anymore.

We the people are starting to have our voice again in national affairs.

Perhaps voters are truly aspiring and optimistic for change. We can only do our part one vote at a time while fulfilling our most fundamental contribution to a democracy.

Most would agree its time for real political transformation. The proverbial thin line between genius and radical may need to be straddled to achieve great things.

Both image and substance of national politics and policy is increasingly losing touch with the common citizen and common sense. US must signify a better place for us, all of us.

Which candidate appears to have the oomph and catalyst to bring something different to the forefront?
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by ddman1971 May 14, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
I''ll vote for Obama come election time, but everyone seems to think it''s going to be an easy win. I have a very strong feeling that McCain will win the White House. Mind you that whomever wins NY, CA, and PA doesn''t necessarily wins the White House. Just ask Kerry and Gore. At this point, I think Clinton would do a better job at winning the White House against McCain, but doesn''t seem like she''s going to win the Democratic nomination. McCain will probably win Texas, Florida, most of the red southern states and possibly OH.
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by sjc_1 May 14, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
I wish the news would go back to reporting it rather than trying to create it. All the sensational pundits may be improving ratings and ad revenue, but they do a disservice to the American people.
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by wikkidinsane May 14, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
I dont even see the big deal in this. The race is already over. In defense of Barack Obama, he only campaigned once in that state, and ignored it. Im sure he will not make the same mistake in Kentucky. Hillary supporters are making a big deal about this and it''s not. if Obama campaigned he would have done much better. Moving forward, Obama is going to hammer her in Oregon and get a good 43 percent in Kentucky.
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by dr_blood1 May 14, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
Wow, lots of sound and fury in the comments, signifying nothing - just like Obama''s WV loss. Obama does not have a ''white'' or ''rural'' problem. He has an ''Appalachia'' problem. A map of the counties in which HRC beats Obama by 2 to 1 across the US would be virtually empty, except for a solid swath covering the run of the Appalachian Mountains. That''s why she beat him in virtually every state she''s won. And, given that Democrats are taking seat after seat away from Republicans in deep red districts in special elections this season, we''re poised for a tidal wave of Red states turning Blue in November. The old electoral math is going to get wiped, and we''ll be seeing a map as much blue as it was red when Reagan took office in ''80. The Republican party is going to be lucky if they can keep any kind of numbers in office to try and block anything Democrats want to pass.

Barack Obama may or may not be as good a candidate as his followers believe, but he''s at the right place in the right time to thoroughly destroy McCain in the fall.
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by suz69-2009 May 14, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
Through all of the campaigning the reports say Obama cannot win with white blue collar. Does this group of people realize he is just as much white as he is black.
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by blackmilitan May 14, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
I BLAME OBAMA WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS, ITS THEIR FAULT.

1. His WHITE MOTHER taught Obama he could be anything he wants %u2013 how dare they do that to him %u2013 that was abuse
2. How dare his WHITE MOTHER love a black man and have a child with him at a time when the rest of white America hated blacks %u2013 how dare they do that to our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
3. How dare his WHITE grandparents love him and teach him good values. What type of WHITE grandparents would do such a thing?
4. Why would his WHITE MOTHER allow this mixed child to even think he could one day be a lawyer or a doctor or a President? They should have raised him to be a thug, a criminal, a drug addict not a good person %u2013 Dayum them.
5. His WHITE MOTHER worked on her doctorate degree instead of staying on welfare,. Who do she think she is to make a better life for her son, dayum this WHITE WOMEN.
6. His WHITE MOTHER gave him a life experience by traveling the world, What is wrong with WHITE WOMEN?
7. His WHITE MOTHER left him at an early at dying from cancer, and he promised her he would make her proud. Why would a man love his mom that much?
8. His WHITE grandparents taught him values, loved him, yes he made some mistake but their values held out. Why would two WHITE grandparents love a black child so much %u2013 how dare them love a black child%u2026...who the hell, do they think they are?

I say we ban all WHITE WOMEN from raising black males to be anything, its wrong,
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by emmy-21 May 14, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
The fact is that this ''signals'' nothing. In case someone forgot, this is a party primary not a general election, and people are free to make their preference till the end of voting in june. It is rather unseemly and absurd for the media to trumpet clintons'' apparent ''white voter'' appeal in a nation with white majority without butting an eyelid, this is a disgrace. Will someone tell the Clintons and their media friends it is over!
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by biwat May 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
The race issue is not new to West Virginia, it was just more evident there. Obama is where he is due to racism (polls show 92% of blacks for Obama), and media bias where the networks don''t want to risk the race card accusation. In other words racism has been highly in Clinton''s disfavor. Otherwise Obama would be history. There will always be friction between races. It''s just taking a different turn, and at a higher level now.
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by stn_sage May 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
YES! And what race, gender, or other demographic problems Obama has will NO DOUBT be reported, pointed out, and dwelled upon, day and night, for the next week or two, until everyone in America who can possibly read has seen it!

Until it''s coming out our eyes, eyes, and any other orifices we may have! Until we''re violently heaving our meals over it! Until we''re having dreams about it, then---and only then, will the media move, having done so in it''s effort to be "fair" to Hillary Clinton! In spite of the fact, she can''t now win!
Only in America! Someone put this vampiress back in her coffin!
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by emmy-21 May 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT
The fact is that this ''signals'' nothing. In case someone forgot, this is a party primary not a general election, and people are free to make their preference till the end of voting in june. It is rather unseemly and absurd for the media to trumpet clintons'' apparent ''white voter'' appeal in a nation with white majority without butting an eyelid, this is a disgrace. Will someone tell the Clintons and their media friends it is over!
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by emmy-21 May 14, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
The fact is that this ''signals'' nothing. In case someone forgot, this is a party primary not a general election, and people are free to make their preference till the end of voting in june. It is rather unseemly and absurd for the media to trumpet clintons'' apparent ''white voter'' appeal in a nation with white majority without butting an eyelid, this is a disgrace. Will someone tell the Clintons and their media friends it is over!
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
Just Who is the racist ? In Obamas own words !!!

This guy wants to be our President and control our government.

Pay close attention to the last comment Below are a few lines from
Obama''''s books '''' his words:



From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother''''s
race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was
ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that
made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove
which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out
and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: " I never emulate white men and brown
men whose fates didn''''t speak to my own. It was into my father''''s image, the
black man, son of Africa, that I''''d packed all the attributes I sought in
myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should
the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

The issue is not Black or White. The main and serious problem is the last
sentence (see above.)
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
and just who is the racist ?
What Obama church preaches, it sure "ain''t" Christian !

have you read this?%u2026%u2026%u2026.this is what his church teaches to his daughters on
Sundays%u2026%u2026%u2026.these are the writings of Racist Marxist, James H. Cones - you can look it up - Jeremiah
Wright preaches from these writings%u2026and now the new Pastor..%u2026

%u201CBlack theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the
goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people,
then he is a murderer and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is
to kill gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will
accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white
enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power which is the
power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at
their disposal. Unless God is participating in his holy activity, we must reject
his love.%u201D
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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
nanging3, stop taking your poorly constructed talking points form other websites and research for yourself. You obviously did not read his books as your comments are hilariously out of context. Try posting under your other moniker, so we will all know you are just the same person cutting and pasting the same scurrilous nonsesne.

Obama is best for our country, and I am proud of the vote I cast for him and the money I have donated to him.

Your sublte racism hurts no one but you...keep voting with hate and see how it better your life....fool.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
OBAMA IS A RACIST TOO.. HE CANNOT CONDEMN WRIGHT %u2026

On June 5th, 2007, Senator Barack Obama spoke before 8,000 people gathered in
Hampton University%u2019s Convocation Center. Most of them were pastors and ministers
attending a conference there.

He was there to speak on mostly post Katrina issues and to criticize the Bush
administration%u2019s efforts during that natural disaster. Obama tried his catch
phrase of the moment, saying that a %u201Cquiet riot%u201D might be occurring in America
and he affirmed that he felt that America was a racist nation, that the reaction
to Katrina had just %u201Cpulled back the screen%u201D on America%u2019s racism. Obama also
used rhetoric heavily doused with religious symbolism.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/03/16/contrary-claims-obama
-very-close-racist-preacher-wright
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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
Sorry racists! You lost!!! Vote Obama or continue to suffer under administrations that care nothing about you. The time for change is now. Embrace it or wither.
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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
nanging 3.....stop cutting-and-pasting and think for yourself little lemming. You lost...go walk off the lciff or support a winner.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
JasonMcJ
__________________________________

I won''t be bullied by YOU !!

The one good thing that Rev.Wright did do was to expose who the racist really
are.

I alway said Geraldine Ferraro did not say anything wrong or untrue, and did not
deserve to be called a racist.
She was just the wrong color to say it..

It proved to be true when black BET president said the same thing, know one
called him a racist.

White America has lost their Equal Rights and Freedom of Speech..we lost them to
bullies like Al Sharpton..
It is time we stood up to bullies like him and say enough.

What has happened on the blogs is most of us felt betrayed to find out what was
going on behind black churches doors.
While we sat in OUR REAL Christian church, praying love thy neighbor, and only
mentioning politics to pray for our world leaders and our troops.
It made some of us physically ill to hear Wrights rants.
Most of us on here speak honestly and we vowed not to accept race cards any
more%u2026or bullying.

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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
HAHAHAHAA you cite Newsbusters? That neo-cons clown rag? Got anything credible? Didn''t think so. Your true colors are showing nanging3.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
White America has lost their Equal Rights and Freedom of Speech..we lost them to
bullies like Al Sharpton..
It is time we stood up to bullies like him and YOU and say enough!!!!

What has happened on the blogs is most of us felt betrayed to find out what was
going on behind black churches doors.
While we sat in OUR REAL Christian church, praying love thy neighbor, and only
mentioning politics to pray for our world leaders and our troops.
It made some of us physically ill to hear Wrights rants.
Most of us on here speak honestly and we vowed not to accept race cards any
more%u2026or bullying.
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by blackmilitan May 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
I BLAME OBAMA WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS, ITS THEIR FAULT.

1. His WHITE MOTHER taught Obama he could be anything he wants %u2013 how dare they do that to him %u2013 that was abuse
2. How dare his WHITE MOTHER love a black man and have a child with him at a time when the rest of white America hated blacks %u2013 how dare they do that to our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
3. How dare his WHITE grandparents love him and teach him good values. What type of WHITE grandparents would do such a thing?
4. Why would his WHITE MOTHER allow this mixed child to even think he could one day be a lawyer or a doctor or a President? They should have raised him to be a thug, a criminal, a drug addict not a good person %u2013 Dayum them.
5. His WHITE MOTHER worked on her doctorate degree instead of staying on welfare,. Who do she think she is to make a better life for her son, dayum this WHITE WOMEN.
6. His WHITE MOTHER gave him a life experience by traveling the world, What is wrong with WHITE WOMEN?
7. His WHITE MOTHER left him at an early at dying from cancer, and he promised her he would make her proud. Why would a man love his mom that much?
8. His WHITE grandparents taught him values, loved him, yes he made some mistake but their values held out. Why would two WHITE grandparents love a black child so much %u2013 how dare them love a black child%u2026...who the hell, do they think they are?

I say we ban all WHITE WOMEN from raising black males to be anything, its wrong,

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by sweetbabyp-2009 May 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
State all you want about not needing states like W.Virgina, Michigan, Flordia or the poor uneducated voters of this country but come Nov, Obama is going to need every vote he can get to defeat McCain if he hopes to become our next President.I personally don''t see this happening because Obama is still an unknown politican, not enough experience in the national limelight.I believe Clinton is still our best choose to defeat McCain in Nov. Hillary Clinton has more experience in office as a Confresswoman working to the betterment of our counrty.If you blame Hillary for voting to support the President in Iraq than you also need to hold all of the politicans that voted to supported this move responsible also, Hillary did not make this chose alone.
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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
Shining light on truth and bullying are the same thing in Republican talk circles, so thank you for the compliment nanging.


You clueless sheep. Who did you vote for and why? I dare you to list YOUR candidates flaws. I DARE YOU!!!
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by blackmilitan May 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
I BLAME OBAMA WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS, ITS THEIR FAULT.

1. His WHITE MOTHER taught Obama he could be anything he wants %u2013 how dare they do that to him %u2013 that was abuse
2. How dare his WHITE MOTHER love a black man and have a child with him at a time when the rest of white America hated blacks %u2013 how dare they do that to our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
3. How dare his WHITE grandparents love him and teach him good values. What type of WHITE grandparents would do such a thing?
4. Why would his WHITE MOTHER allow this mixed child to even think he could one day be a lawyer or a doctor or a President? They should have raised him to be a thug, a criminal, a drug addict not a good person %u2013 Dayum them.
5. His WHITE MOTHER worked on her doctorate degree instead of staying on welfare,. Who do she think she is to make a better life for her son, dayum this WHITE WOMEN.
6. His WHITE MOTHER gave him a life experience by traveling the world, What is wrong with WHITE WOMEN?
7. His WHITE MOTHER left him at an early at dying from cancer, and he promised her he would make her proud. Why would a man love his mom that much?
8. His WHITE grandparents taught him values, loved him, yes he made some mistake but their values held out. Why would two WHITE grandparents love a black child so much %u2013 how dare them love a black child%u2026...who the hell, do they think they are?

I say we ban all WHITE WOMEN from raising black males to be anything, its wrong,

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by rjstolba May 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT
IF WE ARE A PARTY OF RACIST BIGOTS, WE DESERVE MCCANN AND 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH TYPE IGNORANCE!!!!!!
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by b0ludo May 14, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
"A breath of fresh vitality" without real substance behind it will yield very little in terms of tangible change, especially in light of the fact that Obama''s idealism will, at the end of the day, going to end up having to conform to the Corporate America lobby / PAC-driven status quo or risk kicking off his presidency as a lame duck, getting very little of what is in his liberal agenda approved and ending up as a huge disappointment to his own people, limiting their chances to capitalize on what should be a huge milestone for African Americans. The reality is that just as Obama backed off on his anti-NAFTA rhetoric as soon as the Canadians called his bluff, he will also change his tune once the people who funded his campaign start requesting their "Special Favors". I could restate the old cliche "There is no free lunch", but you already knew that...
Clinton, on the other hand, has the proven track record of knowing how to deal with the shark tank that is Washington, her husband having made a huge difference, one that affected all of us where it counts, in our collective middle-american pockets.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
It Obama LIES..every time he opens his mouth it''s another lie..That is why he won''t debate ...

Michelle Obama (1988 -1991) and Ayers%u2019 wife Dorn (1984 - 1988) worked in
the same law firm and Dorn introduced Michelle to Obama.


Ayers and Obama connection goes deeper than what Obama and the mainstream media
has been saying. Obama and Ayers have a long-standing working relationship. Not
only did Obama sit on the Woods Foundation (1999 - 2002) board but he worked for
Ayers;Obama was Director over at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (1995 - 2003)
for eight years which Ayers was a co-founder. Larry Johnson, spells it all out
for us over on his website. A %u201Cmust%u201D read if you want to be well informed about
Senator Obama and his relatioship with Ayers. Mr. Murtagh also said that Obama
sat on an educational council (%u201CLeadership Council%u201D ) of the Chicago Public
Schools Education Fund (Ayers father and brother also were members of this
council). Another interesting website addresses this issue. Murtagh also said
that Michelle Obama (1988 -1991) and Ayers%u2019 wife Dorn (1984 - 1988) worked in
the same law firm and Dorn introduced Michelle to Obama. Rumor as it that it was
Dorn who set-up Obama%u2019s first fundrasier (1995) in Chicago (re:Obama in Ayers
house).


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by blackmilitan May 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
I BLAME OBAMA WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS, ITS THEIR FAULT.

1. His WHITE MOTHER taught Obama he could be anything he wants %u2013 how dare they do that to him %u2013 that was abuse
2. How dare his WHITE MOTHER love a black man and have a child with him at a time when the rest of white America hated blacks %u2013 how dare they do that to our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
3. How dare his WHITE grandparents love him and teach him good values. What type of WHITE grandparents would do such a thing?
4. Why would his WHITE MOTHER allow this mixed child to even think he could one day be a lawyer or a doctor or a President? They should have raised him to be a thug, a criminal, a drug addict not a good person %u2013 Dayum them.
5. His WHITE MOTHER worked on her doctorate degree instead of staying on welfare,. Who do she think she is to make a better life for her son, dayum this WHITE WOMEN.
6. His WHITE MOTHER gave him a life experience by traveling the world, What is wrong with WHITE WOMEN?
7. His WHITE MOTHER left him at an early at dying from cancer, and he promised her he would make her proud. Why would a man love his mom that much?
8. His WHITE grandparents taught him values, loved him, yes he made some mistake but their values held out. Why would two WHITE grandparents love a black child so much %u2013 how dare them love a black child%u2026...who the hell, do they think they are?

I say we ban all WHITE WOMEN from raising black males to be anything, its wrong,

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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
No credible facts here to debate...lets all move along to the REAL election... Here we have just a bunch of sore losers who have really really bad memories and like to cut-and-paste silly rhetoric.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
Obama adviser: Divide Jerusalem
Mideast pointman blasted by Israeli leaders as ''hostile'' to Jewish state

WND today !
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
Ahmadinejad says Israel doomed !!!

WND TODAY...


Ahmadinejad, Obama wants to meet with him ???


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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
Still cutting and pasting here CLintonisa racists?

For every claim you make about Obama, I will give you 2 documented sources of proof that Clinton did the same thing. YOu arguement is weak at best.

No one but those WHO ARE ALREADY RACIST thinks Obama is a racist. YOu are ignorant. Read his books...(not just hand fed out-of-context snippets)

The American people are smarter than you.
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by nanging3 May 14, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
Obama and his snotty unpatriotic wife hate whites !!


This guy wants to be our President and control our government.

Pay close attention to the last comment Below are a few lines from
Obama''''s books '''' his words:



From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother''''s
race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was
ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that
made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove
which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out
and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: " I never emulate white men and brown
men whose fates didn''''t speak to my own. It was into my father''''s image, the
black man, son of Africa, that I''''d packed all the attributes I sought in
myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should
the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

The issue is not Black or White. The main and serious problem is the last
sentence (see above.)
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by jasonmcj May 14, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
You have to meet with those who are involved. It is called diplomacy, something GOP brains lack.

It obvious you are a scared white person, with all your silly fearmongering. I feel sorry for your mother.
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