May 13, 2008

Clinton Campaign Reminiscent of 1980 Race

National Review Online: N.Y. Senator's Nomination Fight Strikingly Similar To Sen. Ted Kennedy's

  • Does Sen. Hillary Clinton D-N.Y. have as much gumption as Ted Kennedy did in 1980? Back then he went all the way to the convention, and Clinton might too, says <b>National Review Online</b>.

    Does Sen. Hillary Clinton D-N.Y. have as much gumption as Ted Kennedy did in 1980? Back then he went all the way to the convention, and Clinton might too, says National Review Online.  (AP)

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(National Review Online)  This column was written by James S. Robbins .
As the obituaries for the Hillary Clinton campaign rolled in last week, the candidate herself refused to be buried. She said that she would stay in the race “until there is a nominee.” Most seemed to think that this meant that she would concede defeat if the Barack Obama campaign could assemble enough pledged delegates and super-delegates to pass the magic number of 2025 - or 2209 according to the Clinton campaign. But whatever the number, there will be no official nominee until the votes are cast at the party convention. What I heard in that statement was that Hillary was taking her fight to Denver.

Is this realistic? Most analysts are writing her off. But ask yourself: Does Hillary Clinton have as much gumption as Ted Kennedy did in 1980? Back then he went all the way to the convention, using many of the same arguments against Jimmy Carter that the Clinton campaign is currently employing, though he had a much weaker hand.

In late May 1980 the primaries were almost over. Ronald Reagan had recently clinched the GOP nomination, having gained the necessary delegates to force George H.W. Bush out of the race. President Carter, who had expected to be easily renominated, was facing a tough challenge by Senator Edward Kennedy, who was capitalizing on concerns of some Democrats that Carter, saddled with a poor economy and a series of foreign-policy disasters, would be unelectable in the fall. Kennedy had amassed a substantial number of delegates, but Carter was only 28 short of the 1,666 needed to nominate. The final eight primaries were to be held on “Super Tuesday” June 3, with the largest prize being California.

The Carter campaign maintained that Kennedy’s hopeless challenge was damaging to party unity, and that he should drop out of the race. Kennedy in fact had offered to withdraw if the president agreed to a debate with the senator (which Carter had been ducking), and if he subsequently won most of the June 3 primaries. The Carter team rejected the idea, but it allowed Kennedy to claim he was acting in good faith and the best interests of the party. Two days before the final primaries Kennedy stated, “I am not prepared to withdraw from this race. I believe that it can be won - and that it must be won, for the good of our party and our country.”

When the Super Tuesday results were in, Carter had won in Ohio, West Virginia,and Montana. It was, in his words, a “wondrous victory.” He garnered 320 delegates, pushing his total to 1,958, well over the 1,666 needed to nominate, and over 700 more than Kennedy’s 1,215. He offered “the hand of friendship” to the senator, whom he thought would acknowledge defeat, since the nomination was mathematically impossible at that point.

But Kennedy was not ready to concede. Quite the opposite. “The people have decided that this campaign must go on,” he declared. “The people have decided that what counts is not the quantity of delegates, but the quality of their lives.” Kennedy had won 53 percent of the total delegates at stake on Super Tuesday, taking California, New Jersey, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and New Mexico. It was his best night of the season.

Kennedy maintained that the president could not carry the larger states necessary to secure a win in November. Kennedy pointed to his own big-state successes - in addition to California and New Jersey, the senator had previously taken Michigan, Pennsylvania, and New York. Carter also faced crippling disenchantment within his party that would make post-convention unity difficult. Polling showed that while Carter won Ohio, 29 percent of that state’s Democrats thought he was an “unacceptable” presidential candidate. In California, 41 percent of Democrats said they could not support Carter in the fall. “Tonight is the first night of the rest of the campaign,” Sen. Kennedy said after the late California results came in. “Today, Democrats from coast to coast were unwilling to concede the nomination to Jimmy Carter, and neither am I.”

But most Democrats were not Kennedy backers. He only had 36 percent of the total delegates, against Carter’s 58 percent, and had amassed 38 percent of the popular vote in the primaries, against Carter’s 51 percent. A Gallup Poll of Democrats May 16-18 showed Carter favored over Kennedy 60 percent to 30 percent, with 10 percent undecided. A Harris survey around the same time showed Carter preferred by Democrats 56 percent to 34 percent. By way of contrast, Hillary Clinton has 48 percent of delegates, 47 percent of the popular vote - which will probably increase - and current polling shows Clinton barely trailing Obama for support among Democrats nationwide.

The question of electability was muddled in 1980 by the mania for Republican splinter candidate John Anderson, who then was at the height of his popularity. A mid-May Harris poll showed Reagan at 39 percent, Carter at 33 percent and Anderson 23 percent. (Anderson drew 6.6 percent in November.) One poll showed that Secretary of State Edmund Muskie would be a more popular alternative to Carter than Kennedy, implying that the attraction was not so much to Kennedy as to the fact that he was not Carter. Muskie was polling even with Ronald Reagan at the time, while Carter was seven points down. This was during the short-lived “Draft Muskie” movement in June that was seen as a favorable alternative to a deadlocked convention. (These days “Draft Gore” is the functional equivalent.)

Kennedy kept his challenge going throughout the summer, even while admitting his campaign was seriously short on cash. The floor fight commenced in New York in August, Kennedy seeking rule changes to “free the delegates.” Harold Ickes, now Sen. Clinton’s chief delegate hunter, was one of Senator Kennedy’s point men in the 1980 delegate fight. But the effort was in vain, and on August 12 Kennedy conceded, delivering the memorable lines, “For me, a few hours ago, this campaign came to an end. For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.” Kennedy left the race, snubbed Carter on the dias, and the rest is history.

Comparing the 1980 contest to today’s, Hillary Clinton has a far stronger rationale for her continued candidacy than Ted Kennedy, a much larger proportion of the delegates, a greater percentage of the popular vote, a much easier fight under the convention rules (because there were no super-delegates available to be persuaded in 1980), and substantially higher poll numbers among Democrats generally. Kennedy took his fight all the way to the convention floor with the intention of winning the nomination. There is no reason to believe the Clinton campaign will do anything less.


By James S. Robbins
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online.



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by sjc_1 May 16, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
Count all the pledged delegates after June 3rd and then see who will be the best candidate in November. That is how it is suppose to work.
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by truthyness May 15, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
Vote for a REAL AMERICAN!!

If not Hillary, then John McCain!!
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by jimmyc1955 May 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
Jimmy Carter wasn''t, and isn''t a nice guy. He was and remains arrogant, a prig, narrow minded and self absorbed to the point of Narcissism. Since Roselynn died he has nobody holding his leash and he is running amok in pursuit of his "legacy" and is being used by some very nasty people in the process.

He was a bad president because he didn''t want to lead he wanted to dictate behavior. He economic policy was abysmal, and his only foriegn policy success has led to no particular improvements in the region - mostly because the Palestinians won''t live up to their agreements - giving Israel no reason live up to theirs.

I''m sorry - the Jimmmy Carter was a nice guy schtick just doesn''t fly. He is a rude old man in hot pursuit of a legacy he doesn''t deserve.
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by pepperp1 May 14, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
PRINCETON, NJ -- Approval of Congress has dipped below 20% for only the fourth time in the 34 years Gallup has asked Americans to rate the job Congress is doing. Today''s 18% score, based on a May 8-11 Gallup Poll, matches the record lows Gallup recorded in August 2007 and March 1992.

Thanks to Pelsoi and Kennedy
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by pepperp1 May 14, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
She is right to go to the convention Kennedy Cronies always loose and by a lot and Obama is one of his buys, the strings are through Mass and Axelrod don%u2019t be fooled. Kennedy is the ole politics Party that demand change his death grip on the shell game of nominee process by his boys on the fringe and in the media off their is the real threat to our country.


Well the good news if he is victorious in placing his Camelot prince on the dem throne then We the People will have divided governance at least McCain is rejected by his Party''s fringe unlike Obama who is embraced by his and like George Bush claims otherwise.
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by pdchapin May 14, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
Clinton strategy is clear. Keep close through the end of primaries. Go very quiet while Obama and McCain go after each other. Hope McCain scores enough points so that by the convention she''s doing a lot better in polls against McCain that Obama is. Convince the super delegates, who can change sides at any time, that Obama is going to lose. This requires that she continue to be a candidate otherwise they wouldn''t poll her against McCain and she needs the difference between her and Obama to make her case. At this point her fate is out of her hands. Obama must falter for her to win, either by making a mistake or my taking a beating from McCain. Will it work? Probably not, but it''s amazing she''s been able to hang this tough this long.
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by pdchapin May 14, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
Clinton strategy is clear. Keep close through the end of primaries. Go very quiet while Obama and McCain go after each other. Hope McCain scores enough points so that by the convention she''s doing a lot better in polls against McCain that Obama is. Convince the super delegates, who can change sides at any time, that Obama is going to lose. This requires that she continue to be a candidate otherwise they wouldn''t poll her against McCain and she needs the difference between her and Obama to make her case. At this point her fate is out of her hands. Obama must falter for her to win, either by making a mistake or my taking a beating from McCain. Will it work? Probably not, but it''s amazing she''s been able to hang this tough this long.
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by kaelinda May 14, 2008 7:31 AM EDT
Carter was too nice a guy to be president, and Obama may be, too.
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by paris1969 May 14, 2008 4:02 AM EDT
NObama is soooooooooooooooo yesterday''s candidate!
Go Hillary ... all the way for the USA!!
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by ausus-2009 May 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
McVet, I found the article interesting, though not particularly relevant. Hillary will probably drop out within the next month. What I found disturbing was your blind rage against anything that does not agree with your narrow point of view. You do not appear to like freedom of the press. What other parts of the Bill of Rights do you dislike?
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by Razzl May 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
Umm, I see no reason to believe there is no reason to believe Clinton will do this. We simply don''t know, and NRO''s propagandariat haven''t shown themselves to be brilliantly acute judges of human nature. It''s all self-serving speculation from the people who will be out of power in November...
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by mcvet May 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
This is absolutely rediculous and shows how desperate this Nazi Rag is! To compare Kennedy/Carter to Clinton/Obama is without merit what so ever. But I guess when you are left with the Republican''s to defend, this is the best that can be done!
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by rational_1 May 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
N.Y. Senator''''s Nomination Fight Strikingly Similar To Sen. Ted Kennedy''''s
Kennedy has bigger boobs.
Posted by dragonwagon5 at 03:34 PM : May 13, 2008

He also doesn''t drive as well as Hillary, particularly over bridges.

But on the other hand, he doesn''t provoke such a visceral dislike in so many Americans either.

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by jaybs3 May 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
That was 1980! and this is 2008, a totally completely different Democratic nomination race, the electorate has changed so much in 28 years and its attitude to politics, we are much more informed. The same is the case with politicians.

Senator Barack Obama has energized politics perhaps like never seen before, attracting new voters of all age groups, gender and race, but most important young voters!

What is now important is The Democratic Party and Our Country - Hillary R Clinton is not going to catch up with Barack Obama now, tonight! I just hope Hillary is Gracious and stands aside to Unite The Party and help take us to The White House in November. Any hesitation or damage to the party will end up with all respect lost.
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