May 12, 2008

McCain's Balancing Act On The Environment

Washington Post: GOP Candidate Champions Some "Green" Causes While Casting Contradictory Votes On Others

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In December 2005, Republicans were poised to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas drilling, an achievement they had sought for decades. Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) had attached the provision to a must-pass defense spending bill and threatened to keep lawmakers in Washington until Christmas if they tried to strip it. Desperate to remove the provision, leaders from national environmental groups turned to a handful of key GOP senators for help.

With only days left before the critical vote, League of Conservation Voters President Gene Karpinski and Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund President Rodger Schlickheisen obtained a private audience with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). McCain had been on both sides of the Arctic drilling issue over the course of his career, and the two leaders of the fight against opening the refuge were eager to know whether he would come down in their column.

His answer disappointed them. In the brief meeting, the senator said he was unwilling to risk blocking a bill involving the military at a time of war -- even though it was clear the broader funding bill would pass quickly and by a wide margin if opponents managed to strip the ANWR provision from it. "We told him, 'This may be the key vote, this may be the time we win this,'" Schlickheisen recalled in an interview. "He said, 'Not on this bill.' That was it."

Ultimately environmental activists were able to defeat the measure with the aid of two Republican senators -- Lincoln Chafee (R.I.) and Mike DeWine (Ohio). But they have not forgotten McCain's decision, and many say it exemplifies his approach to environmental issues.

"There's no question that among a lot of bad Republican votes in the Senate, he's one of the better ones," Schlickheisen said. "He is perhaps the most unpredictable, erratic, of those votes."

McCain has made the environment one of the key elements of his presidential bid. He speaks passionately about the issue of climate change on the campaign trail, and he plans to outline his vision for combating global warming in a major speech today in Portland, Ore.

"I'm proud of my record on the environment," he said at a news conference Friday at the Liberty Science Center in Jersey City. "As president, I will dedicate myself to addressing the issue of climate change globally."

But an examination of McCain's voting record shows an inconsistent approach to the environment: He champions some "green" causes while casting sometimes contradictory votes on others.

The senator from Arizona has been resolute in his quest to impose a federal limit on greenhouse gas emissions, even when it means challenging his own party. But he has also cast votes against tightening fuel-efficiency standards and resisted requiring public utilities to offer a specific amount of electricity from renewable sources. He has worked to protect public lands in his home state, winning a 2001 award from the National Parks Conservation Association for helping give the National Park Service some say over air tours around the Grand Canyon, work that prompts former interior secretary and Arizona governor Bruce Babbitt to call him "a great friend of the canyon." But he has also pushed to set aside Endangered Species Act protections when they conflict with other priorities, such as the construction of a University of Arizona observatory on Mount Graham.

Doug Holtz-Eakin, McCain's senior policy adviser, said the senator does not always please "environmental groups who are single-issue, litmus test" organizations. Instead, he said, McCain seeks to weigh the costs and benefits of each environmental issue.

"Look, he always balances what are the environmental implications of these enterprises and what are the economic benefits that could come from them," Holtz-Eakin said. "That is, in general, an approach which may be harder to read than a flat ideological X or Y, but it's how he reads these things, it's how he evaluates these kinds of decisions."

As a result, McCain scores significantly lower than his Democratic rivals for the presidency, Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), in interest groups' studies of his environmental voting record. McCain's lifetime League of Conservation Voters score is 24 percent, compared with 86 for Obama and 86 for Clinton; Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund's conservation report card gave him 38 percent in the 108th Congress and 40 in the 109th. (McCain has missed every major environmental vote this Congress, giving him a zero rating.)

When Karpinski tells audiences about McCain's environmental scorecard rating, he said, "jaws drop. . . . I tell them, 'He's not as green as you think he is.'"

Obama has already sought to exploit this on the campaign trail: While campaigning in Bend, Ore., on Saturday he said McCain "opposed real solutions to our dependence on oil time and time again." In response, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds noted that Obama had supported the 2005 energy bill, which provided tax breaks for oil companies, while McCain did not.

The Republican's backers, and some environmentalists, say McCain deserves credit for taking the political risk of talking about these issues both on the Senate floor and in a GOP primary where he stood out as the only candidate committed to a specific target for reducing greenhouse gases. McCain supports cutting greenhouse gases 60 percent by the middle of this century compared with 1990 levels; Obama and Clinton back an 80 percent cut over the same period.

"There's no question he was both moved and troubled by the visible impact of climate change," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), who has traveled with McCain to investigate the effects of global warming. "This is inside him now. . . . He stood up against the president of his own party, and the majority of members of his own party. I think that makes him an environmental leader."

On the campaign trail, McCain is more than eager to go toe-to-toe with skeptics of global warming who attend his town hall forums. When a man in Michigan asked him last week why the United States was not drilling in the Arctic refuge and off California's coasts, McCain replied that, as a federalist, he thinks states have the right to make those decisions.

"I can't say we should drill in the most pristine parts of America," he told the questioner, adding that he believes in finding new sources of oil, "But I also believe sooner or later we have got to become energy-independent, we've got to reduce greenhouse gases. That means nuclear, wind, solar, tide, et cetera."

Holtz-Eakin said McCain is flexible in his federalist approach when it comes to he question of drilling because, while many Alaskans support opening the Arctic refuge to oil and gas exploration, the senator has concluded that it's not worth exposing 250 species of wildlife there to damage.

For the most part, McCain follows a fairly instinctive approach to deciding environmental questions. In recent interviews he has said he thinks the government should list polar bears as endangered because shrinking sea ice threatens their survival, that sharks deserve protection because they're a crucial part of the marine food web, and that the nation needs to act on climate change because it risks an environmental catastrophe if it doesn't.

The senator does not boast an extensive staff of experts on these issues, however, and doesn't delve into the scientific and policy details the way former vice president Al Gore or some of his Senate colleagues do. In one conversation on his "Straight Talk Express" campaign bus, he voiced his frustration with activists who oppose nuclear power plants.

"We start building nuclear power plants, we'll have cheaper energy. Duh," he said.

Tim Profeta, who directs Duke University's Nicholas Institute for Environmental Policy Solutions and served as Lieberman's counsel on the environment from 2001 to 2005, said McCain feels strongly about addressing climate change but often resists wading into the legislative weeds.

"He's really focused on the impacts and the problems climate change will beget, and the need for action," Profeta said, "but he has, I believe, worked with what Lieberman and his staff saw as the appropriate policy approach."

As a result, many advocates said they remain uncertain as to how McCain would tackle environmental issues if elected president this fall. They are still waiting to see whether he will vote in favor of Lieberman's latest climate bill, which is headed to the Senate next month.

"Global warming is the most pressing environmental issue facing the country, and Senator McCain carved a path of leadership on the issue in the past," said Jeremy Symons, who directs the National Wildlife Federation's campaign on global warming. "A lot of people are looking to see how he's going to handle it in his campaign, and as president."


By Juliet Eilperin
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by fuzzybear9 May 12, 2008 9:40 AM PDT
Aloha America and Good Morning

Aloha Fuzzy Bear what do we read today ?

what would you like to read, something mind stiring or complacent? even tho its Monday Morning lets be brave and pick the mind stiring choice.

Let me just say that having worked in the Oil Industry at one time, I know of where I speak.

I think I shall oppose the drilling of the Wildlife refuge for Oil, not because we don`t need oil, and not because we cann`t harvest the oil with minor effects on the environmemt, but because we will never see the oil that is harvested.

Fuzzy what are you talking about ?

Exxon oil, is a british owned corporation and not one drop of Alaskan crude ever made it to the port of San Francisco, or any where in America for that matter it all went over seas. and after taking all the Alaskan Crude to Britain, The British now refuse to maintain the Alaskan Pipeline from corrosion.

we might say that Americans are a bunch of Saps,
why of course we are, who else would nominate a Kennedy look alike but America ?
who else would elect a Socialist Liberal Elietist to the White House but America.
so we have the People of Iowa to thank for the mess the nation is in.

Fuzzy do you have anything positive to say today?
well it looks like we may have a good spring planying this year, remember to get out and get your rose bushes trimmed.

sincerely on the bend of the McKenzie River
Bear Fuzzy
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by mcvet May 12, 2008 9:43 AM PDT
Senator FLIP FLOP is on the job. YOU never know where this man is going to come down. I guess it''s all a matter of IF he has a "Senior Moment" at the time of the vote or not. The LAST thing we need right now is someone in office who can''t decide where to go or how to get there. It''s all a matter of WHICH lobbiest with the most money gets to McSame first I guess! SIEG HEIL RUSH!!
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by mcvet May 12, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
we might say that Americans are a bunch of Saps,
why of course we are, who else would nominate a Kennedy look alike but America ?
who else would elect a Socialist Liberal Elietist to the White House but America.
so we have the People of Iowa to thank for the mess the nation is in.

sincerely on the bend of the McKenzie River
Bear Fuzzy

Typical Nazi! Don''t have a solution to the problem?? Simple! Just roll out your Hate Target and waste a lot of valuable time directing all the wrongs toward them. Been working since the Gestapo so why not! Sieg Heil Rush!!




Posted by FuzzyBear9 at 09:40 AM : May 12, 2008
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by demslie May 12, 2008 9:54 AM PDT
Senator FLIP FLOP is on the job. YOU never know where this man is going to come down. I guess it''''s all a matter of IF he has a "Senior Moment" at the time of the vote or not. SIEG HEIL RUSH!!

Posted by MCVet

As usual, CBS (Communist Broadcast System) prints a "story" to give Democrats like MCVet something to ****** about. And of course this 8 year old story in just the thing to allow MCVet and his type an outlet for the Anger, Hate and Rage they express at every opportunity. But of course MCVet and the other Angry Hateful Democrats have no interest in the truth. McCain decided not to endorse the Environmental Platform because other Angry Hateful Democrats made it clear they were only interested in Blaming every bit of Environmental problem on Bush without looking at anything that happened prior to JAN 2001. McCain said that was nothing more than political no-sence and backed out. But of course Democrats don''t give a DAMNN about the truth. Democrats like MCVet only care about screaming Hate and Anger.
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by fuzzybear9 May 12, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
Hello Concerned Citizen

``
we might say that Americans are a bunch of Saps,
why of course we are, who else would nominate a Kennedy look alike but America ?
who else would elect a Socialist Liberal Elietist to the White House but America.
so we have the People of Iowa to thank for the mess the nation is in.

sincerely on the bend of the McKenzie River
Bear Fuzzy

Typical Nazi! Don''''t have a solution to the problem?? Simple! Just roll out your Hate Target and waste a lot of valuable time directing all the wrongs toward them. Been working since the Gestapo so why not! Sieg Heil Rush!!
Posted by FuzzyBear9 at 09:40 AM : May 12, 2008

Posted by MCVet at 09:46 AM : May 12, 2008

Senator FLIP FLOP is on the job. YOU never know where this man is going to come down. I guess it''''s all a matter of IF he has a "Senior Moment" at the time of the vote or not. The LAST thing we need right now is someone in office who can''''t decide where to go or how to get there. It''''s all a matter of WHICH lobbiest with the most money gets to McSame first I guess! SIEG HEIL RUSH!!
Posted by MCVet at 09:43 AM : May 12, 2008

``


so what are you saying ?
That its my fault that America doesn`t have
a descent candidate for the Prseidency ?
that its my fault that the Good People of the State of Iowa never gave the rest of America a chance to vote on a Good Candidate ?
its not my fault, you people chose these people not me.

sincerely Fuzzy Bear
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by jack3213 May 12, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
NO ONE IS PRIVELAGED OR ENTITLED TO ANYTHING- THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE MENTALITY OF SOME AMERICANS. LOL. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHY SO MANY WANT A DEMOCRAT- THEY THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THINGS AND THE TWO DUMMIES ( CLINTON & OBAMA) ARE MAKING PROMISES THEY CANNOT KEEP. WAKE UP
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by irliberal May 12, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
Oooo it''s got to burn the neocons cookies that McCain says Global Warming with seriousness and not a sneer.

LOL I love it.
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by fuzzybear9 May 12, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
Hello America

I couldn`t help noticing the mind set of the Socialist Liberals yesterday on the other networks round table,
when one of there Renowned Commintators said she abosulutely refused to read any of the blogging in America because she as a Liberal Elietist had no need to listen to other Americans, so we have had New Broadcasting propoganda specialist for the last 60 years.
anyway
lets see I lost my train of thought
Oh yes,
I had always thought that Elietist came from republican Capitalist but I can now see the error of my ways, the nations worst Elietist are the Socialist Liberal Democrats.
for example Ted Kennedy precieves himself as the great Emmancipator of Human Rights,
not Abraham Lincoln, but Ted Kennedy.
its apart of the Elietist mind set,
and might I just add that Social Elietist are only
one step from a Fascist. for example Saddam Hussien.

sincerely Fuzzy

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by irliberal May 12, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
What''s really neat is that the republicans have already lost. 8-) All their favorite horses died before the race even started. Now they''re just left with McCain who most of them despise. Heh... WOOHOO
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by usbrit-2009 May 12, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
But of course Democrats don''''t give a DAMNN about the truth. Democrats like MCVet only care about screaming Hate and Anger.
Posted by demslie

Your hate and anger is rendering you blissfully ignorant of the truth. MacCain''s pet Lieberman was on CNN and FAUX News just this morning explaining how much MacCain believes in Global Warming and how much he disagrees with the GOPig party line.
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by usbrit-2009 May 12, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
Fuzzy - what happened to you? You never struck me as one of the blinded conservative minority before - you always have an interesting take on things; now you just seem to be spouting the usual conservative party line drivel. Say it ain''t so fuzzy.
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by zertrat May 12, 2008 11:00 AM PDT
As an Arizona man from way back I remain flabbergasted that the rest of the nation believes a word that comes out of his mouth. My gast is really flabbered. Read through this article carefully and you will see the true McCain. He espouses the environment only when it is the politically expedient thing to do and he undermines the environment on any meaningful action or vote. Hi Pocracy! Same on other issues -- this man cares about nothing but McCain being President of the Most Powerful Nation on Earth. McCain is a snake in the grass.
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by broadwayphi May 12, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
McCain does NOT support mandatory greenhouse reductions. He supports VOLUNTARY "Market-based" reductions that will fail - miserably. In short, he is McBush on global warming. Period. The rest of his environmental record is spotty at best. It''s McSame with this corporate Republican.
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by jack3213 May 12, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
IRLIBERAL said "What''''s really neat is that the republicans have already lost. 8-) All their favorite horses died before the race even started. Now they''''re just left with McCain who most of them despise. Heh... WOOHOO "

YOU SIMPLY ARE NAIVE OR IGNORANT- THE BEST REPUBLICAN WON- AND WILL WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION, TOO- WHY? BECAUSE THE WORST OF THE CHOSEN DEMOCRATS- LEAST EXPERIANCED & LEAST QUALIFIED IS LEFT FROM THE DUMO-OCRATS TO CHOOSE FROM. LOL. GET A CLUE.

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by jack3213 May 12, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
''BARR'' OR ''NADER'' MAKES NO DIFFERANCE- WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL ELECTION- IF YOU CHOOSE THE MOST QUALIFIED & MOST EXPERIANCE YOU WILL WIN TOO.
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by byeneocons May 12, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
Watching and reading about McCain is kind of like that crazy uncle everyone has who lives in his own little world in strange part of town.
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by jack3213 May 12, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
WATCHING OBAMA SPEAK MUST REMIND PEOPLE OF WATCHING A COLLEGE CLASS ENTHUSIAST PROMISING YOU THE WORLD ONCE YOU GRADUATE- BUT HE DOESN''T WANT YOU TO GRADUATE BECAUSE THEN HE WON''T HAVE A JOB TO DO.
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by sjc_1 May 12, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
McCain is clueless on the environment. He will go which ever way the money goes and call it good for America. This guy would be the oldest person ever to take the office of President for the first term. He is so out of touch on today''s issues it is pathetic.
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by l8c6 May 12, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
Global corporations are not concerned with McCain''s campaign rhetoric, they know where he stands regarding their profit margin.
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by hungryman9 May 12, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
McCain is the man and he will win in November. Most americans don''t want the pig and his wife in the white house.
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by libh8er May 12, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
Just wait until Bob Barr throws his Libertarian hat in to the ring. He''ll be balancing a lot more than the environment.

This should be a repeat of ''92......Ross Perot syphoning votes away from Bush clearing the way for Clinton. All of a sudden, Ubama becomes more electable. God help us all.
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by whitepicks2 May 12, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
MyCane was among seven senators given a ZERO SCORE in 2007 by the League of Conservation Voters.

A zero meant MyCane was absent or voted against the environmental position on all of the issues being tracked -- 15 votes the group used to compile its 2007 rankings. The votes ranged from approval for an increase in automobile fuel economy and imposing new taxes on oil companies to offshore oil development and prioritizing flood-control projects.
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
Youth will be Served in...November

Regardless of (Race) Young & Middle Ageed Americans will Not Vote for Semi-Senile McCain...Regardless of (Race).

Drop Out John and allow your Young Fine A$$ Wife Cindy McCain to Run for President of the USA and I will be the 1st in Line to Vote for her !!

Otherthan that, John McCain, Your A$$ is Lawn Grass, come November !!!

Its Cindy McCain for USA President or I`m Voting for the Young Charismatic Illinois Senator ...

Barack Obama in (08) !!

PS: I can`t wait to see John McCain have a Senior Moment, where he loses his Thoughts during a Debate, or Worse, McCain Falls Asleep during a Debate.

Also Having Joe Liberman as a VP Running Mate, that Little Bozo Clown of a Man, is Always Around, Whispering to McCain, just keeping him in Check...

Just Like McCain`s Middle East Tour, I mean McCain`s Mid Eastern Dibacle, that was suppose to make McCain Look More Internationally Seasoned ...Ha !!

What a Laugh Riot !!!
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
McCain was awarded a Silver Star Medal for resisting "extreme mental and physical cruelties"

McCain earned a Navy Commendation Medal. Although
"crippled from serious and ill-treated injuries," he steadfastly refused offers of freedom from those holding him prisoner.

He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down.

McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal, as his Navy career approached its end.
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Navy releases McCain''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:17 PM PDT
McCain was awarded a Silver Star Medal for resisting "extreme mental and physical cruelties"

McCain earned a Navy Commendation Medal. Although
"crippled from serious and ill-treated injuries," he steadfastly refused offers of freedom from those holding him prisoner.

He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down.

McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal, as his Navy career approached its end.
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Navy releases McCain''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008

Great Military Record...Great...Great !!!


but, Young & Middle Aged Americans, Regardless of (Race) are Not going to Vote for Grand Pa...McCain...

They Won`t Do It !!!


They just won`t Do It...Sorry, but its True !
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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
McCain does not care about the enviornment. Its all just lip service and hog wash from the republican party.
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down.

McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal, as his Navy career approached its end.
--------------
Navy releases McCain''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008

Great Military Record...Great...Great !!!


But, Young & Middle Aged Americans, Regardless of (Race) are Not going to Vote for Grand Pa...McCain...

They Won`t Do It !!!


They just won`t Do It...Sorry, but its True !

They will Not Vote for...Grand Pa..This Fall
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by abbe91 May 12, 2008 12:19 PM PDT
Navy releases McCain''''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008

Posted by JoeCoolSwat at 12:12 PM : May 12, 2008

Or, for better info,

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
McCain was awarded a Silver Star Medal for resisting "extreme mental and physical cruelties"

McCain earned a Navy Commendation Medal. Although
"crippled from serious and ill-treated injuries," he steadfastly refused offers of freedom from those holding him prisoner.

He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down.

McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal, as his Navy career approached its end.
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Navy releases McCain''''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
Youth will be Served in...November

Regardless of (Race) Young & Middle Aged Americans will Not Vote for Semi-Senile McCain...Regardless of (Race).

America is Not going to Vote for ...Grand Pa..

They Won`t Do It !!

Drop Out John and allow your Young Fine A$$ Wife Cindy McCain to Run for President of the USA and I will be the 1st in Line to Vote for her !!

Otherthan that, John McCain, Your A$$ is Lawn Grass, come November !!!

Its Cindy McCain for USA President or I`m Voting for the Young Charismatic Illinois Senator ...

Barack Obama in (08) !!

PS: I can`t wait to see John McCain have a Senior Moment, where he loses his Thoughts during a Debate, or Worse, McCain Falls Asleep during a Debate.

Also Having Joe Liberman as a VP Running Mate, that Little Bozo Clown of a Man, is Always Around, Whispering to McCain, just keeping him in Check...

Just Like McCain`s Middle East Tour, I mean McCain`s Mid Eastern Dibacle, that was suppose to make McCain Look More Internationally Seasoned ...Ha !!

What a Laugh Riot !!!

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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
Omaar-101.

Not you again posting stuff you are not even qualified to talk about. You need to graduate from High School before you even get the 101 rating. It''s called L.L.L Low Life Looser. whatever and get some brains before you post your all your uneducated stuff on CBS.
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
He earned his Bronze Star the day before he was shot down.

McCain received the Legion of Merit Medal, as his Navy career approached its end.
--------------
Navy releases McCain''s military record
Mywaynews, May 7, 2008

Great Military Record...Great...Great !!!


But, Young & Middle Aged Americans, Regardless of (Race) are Not going to Vote for Grand Pa...McCain...

They Won`t Do It !!!


They just won`t Do It...Sorry, but its True !

They will Not Vote for...Grand Pa..This Fall
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
abbe91.....For more Liberal Democrat bull-$hit...see abbe91
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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
Omaar-101

Mister Cut and Paste Boy who says the same stuff over and over and over again. Yawn you are go tired Omaar-101 and such a ****.
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
acolton1....I too, am sick and tired of OMAR-101, cut-and-pasting his stupid irrelevant posts....His favorite line.."cut and paste, saves nine"..like a little sissy, who can''t discuss anything, but keeps posting his irrelevant GARBAGE...thank you for agreeing..
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by abbe91 May 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
"abbe91.....For more Liberal Democrat bull-$hit...see abbe91
Posted by JoeCoolSwat at 12:21 PM : May 12, 2008"

Calling McSame a "hero" because he survided as a POW is non-sense. Besides this, his military record is zero. He wouldn''t have been in the Navy, if not for his Admiral daddy, to start with ... and he wasn''t fired from the Navy for the very same reason.
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
Omaar-101.....Sorry to tell you this...but Maverick McCain is going to "cream" Obama in the general election...(pardon the pun)
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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
Omaar-101

Please dont cut and paste any more today. That is for 1st graders please get an original thought something that joecoolswat and I have not read in the last 3+ weeks. Something original please and not stale and old and moldie like your usual posts.
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by whitepicks2 May 12, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
Mycane pushed aside Endangered Species Act protections in AZ in a fit of anger over the Mount Graham red squirrel, which has gotten in the way of MyCane''s pet projects. This squirrel seems to be MyCane''s achilles heel.

Robin Silver and Bob Witzeman, both medical doctors, met with Mycane at his Phoenix office to discuss the endangered squirrel. At the mere mention of the issue, MyCane erupted...''He slammed his fists on his desk, scattering papers across the room,'' Silver said. ''He jumped up and down, screaming obscenities at us for at least 10 minutes. He shook his fists as if he was going to slug us.''

God he hates that squirrel....He''s crazy as a loon, folks.
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by prinzowhales May 12, 2008 12:27 PM PDT
Hitler won the Iron Cross...He was a German patriot!...I can think of several good reasons not to have supported him...I can think of many not to vote for McCain...who was under enemy discipline and cracked...who traded secrets for medical care because of his incompetence...who made 32 propaganda films for North Vietnam and appeared on Hanoi radio so many times he was known as the "Songbird".

McCain is a corruptionist...a Keating Fiver...married into the family of a henchman in the Kemper Marley mob. He is a sick, evil weasel and a national security risk!! And Obama and Clinton are little better!!

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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
Omaar-101

Why dont you stick to stuff you are qualifed to talk about like Paris Hilton, Debbie Gibson, The BACK DOOR BOYS, Cooking with Marth Stewart, They Young and the Restless, and any stupid sit-com from the 80s or 90s. I bet you can tell us all about thoes mindless shows.
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by omaar-101 May 12, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
Posted by acolton1....

Coming from a Number 1, Grade-A, Anal Retentive like YOU...

Thats a Compliment, because its the Best Response, a Person like YOU, can come up with !!!

To no Avail of Course..But thanks for trying anyway.

It is a Pleasure, Ticking Your A$$ Off !!


I`m Very Glad it gets to YOU..TOO !!!
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:29 PM PDT
Posted by whitepicks2...."Mycane pushed aside Endangered Species Act protections in AZ".....I don''t know if to laugh or what....(Mycane?)
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by prinzowhales May 12, 2008 12:30 PM PDT
Why did the Demopublicans have to scrape the gutters to come up with Clinton, Obama and McCain?--Because they are utterly and completely blackmailable!

Stop voting for human garbage! This is no time to waste your votes Demopublican sewer rats!
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
Prinzowhales....who are you voting for in the presidential election? sounds like you just don''t like America, in general.
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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
Prinzowhales at 12:27

Just to let you know with CBS.com and the rules of posting you are not allowed to compair anybody to Hitler or the Nazi''s. Read the rules.
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by irliberal May 12, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
Mycane pushed aside Endangered Species Act protections in AZ in a fit of anger over the Mount Graham red squirrel, which has gotten in the way of MyCane''''s pet projects. This squirrel seems to be MyCane''''s achilles heel.

Robin Silver and Bob Witzeman, both medical doctors, met with Mycane at his Phoenix office to discuss the endangered squirrel. At the mere mention of the issue, MyCane erupted...''''He slammed his fists on his desk, scattering papers across the room,'''' Silver said. ''''He jumped up and down, screaming obscenities at us for at least 10 minutes. He shook his fists as if he was going to slug us.''''

God he hates that squirrel....He''''s crazy as a loon, folks.

Posted by whitepicks2 at 12:25 PM


LOL I didn''t know this.... this little story and the singing "bomb bomb bomb iran" and people actually think he''s qualified to be president? hehehe.... just shows you some people just can''t admit when they''re TOTALLY DEAD WRONG? heheh

Nutty McCane... angry, bitter, and hates squirrels.
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by joecoolswat May 12, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
Prinzowhales....Do you speak German ?....No?.....your welcome..(WW2)
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by jjp735i May 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
"unpredictable, erratic"
McCain will vote for anything that will pay his lobbyists friends. I would say he is more preductable than not.
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by acolton1 May 12, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
Posted by Omaar-101 at 12:28 PM

Nice CUT AND PASTE OMAAR-101 again already seen that comment all you do is just change the name in the first line. Wow you must have gotten an A+ in First Grade with your ability to cut and paste. Now dont be such a Dousch bag and and grow up and be educated and stop the cut and past poop you always do on CBSnews.com your just Stupid Omaar-101. Why dont you spend some time getting your GED and not waste so much time on line being a ****.
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