Congress Eyes Major Expansion Of GI Bill

Democrats Push Key Election-Year Bill That Dramatically Expands College Aid For Military Vets

(CBS/AP)  Congressional Democrats are pushing what could become the most dramatic expansion of college aid for military veterans since World War II, with a bill they hope will buoy them this election season and become an albatross for Republicans.

Pitched by the Democrats is a plan that would essentially guarantee a full-ride scholarship to any in-state public university, along with a monthly housing stipend, for individuals who serve the military for at least three years.

The proposal would give veterans 15 years to use the benefit, instead of the current 10-year limit, and would set up a new government program that matches financial aid by more expensive private institutions.

For a pricey public school - such as Miami University in Oxford, Ohio - that benefit might be worth as much as $31,000 per school year, compared to the maximum $9,900 benefit that veterans are given now.

The GI bill covered all the costs for World War II veterans. But today, with expenses exploding, the value of the benefit has plummeted, CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras reported last month. Attending a public college costs an average of almost $13,000 a year. The GI bill pays about half that amount.

"Meeting the needs of our veterans is a cost of war," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who described the bill as a "thank you" to the troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

While Democratic leaders say they see a yes-vote on their proposal as a no-brainer for any lawmaker facing voters this fall, the new GI benefits plan has Republicans - and even some members of the more fiscally conservative Democratic rank-and-file - balking at the cost.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that the proposal would cost $51.8 billion in the next 10 years.

The Pentagon has said that it's open to boosting college aid, even substantially, for veterans but wants the commitment to extend to at least six years, instead of three, before the full benefit kicks in.

"The last thing we want to do is create a situation in which we are losing our men and women who we have worked so hard to train," said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell.

Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Richard Burr of North Carolina have proposed an alternative that would boost the maximum monthly stipend for GIs from $1,100 a month to $1,500 a month.

Democratic Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia counters that his legislation would be more effective in attracting new recruits and would offset any drop in the military's ranks.

"I can't think of a better way to broaden (the) propensity to serve than to offer a truly meaningful educational benefit, rather than simply taking that smaller demographic" of those already enlisted "and pound on it" with repeated combat tours, he said.

Democrats are pushing Webb's bill and other domestic add-ons, including a major expansion of state unemployment benefits, as part of a larger $195 billion package that would pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan through early next year. A House vote is planned this week.

President Bush is expected to veto the measure if it is sent to him with added domestic spending, including the GI bill. In a closed-door meeting last week, Bush urged a group of House Republicans to reject the bill and uphold any veto if the legislation doesn't adhere to his request. Bush has indicated he supports a modest expansion of GI benefits - particularly allowing service members to transfer unused benefits to family members - but wants to address it in legislation separate from war spending.

Democrats are unlikely to heed his suggestion because it would lessen their leverage substantially.

Ultimately, Democratic lawmakers and their aides say they expect some version of the GI bill will pass eventually, even if they have to strip the domestic add-ons and find money elsewhere in the national budget to offset the costs.

But before they pare down their proposal, they plan to put Republicans on the spot - forcing them to either accept their domestic spending plan or go on record as opposing an effort widely endorsed by the nation's major veterans organizations.

"Visit Walter Reed," said Marty Conatser, head of the American Legion, in a recent statement urging Congress to pass the bill. "War is expensive indeed and the bulk of that cost is paid for by the men and women who wear the uniform. Benefits are just a small, small cost of war."

House Republicans acknowledge the upcoming vote will be a tough one. GOP members want to expand GI benefits, even if they think the Democratic proposal goes too far. And some Republicans whose home states have taken an economic hit also are likely to find it difficult to reject increased unemployment benefits.

Adding weight to the GI proposal are the military records of the bill's three leading co-sponsors in the Senate: Webb, a Vietnam war veteran and former Navy secretary; Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a Navy enlistee during World War II; and Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, a Vietnam veteran.

A companion bill in the House, introduced by Rep. Harry Mitchell, D-Ariz., has attracted more than 290 co-sponsors, or about two-thirds of that chamber.

[ianlou]

I can hear the three tooth gear in Bush''s head grinding with this one...

"How can I veto this without looking like I don''t support the troops".

[griffsr]

First of all to Kansas1946......Bush didn''t send our troops without adequate armor....The Dumocrats decided to withhold funding for the armor...oh and go on vacation while the timeline to fund it expired leaving our troops without armor....and they almost all voted for the war. Bush couldn''t send them without approval so check the facts before you post uneducated responses!!

[aldon61]

Afghan-stan: You''re right on the mark. Some, but not nearly enough of us, HAVE written to our congressmen. Until these ya-hoos figure out that we mean business, it probably won''t happen. What is being proposed is a baby step compared to what our military has earned. By the way, those "support our troops" magnets don''t mean a dam thing unless you can walk the walk. Talk is cheap!

[afghan-stan]

"Support Our Troops." I see the yellow magnetic ribbons all over cars when I''m in the United States. But when is America going to actually support the troops? Supporting your troops means more than just buying a magnet that was made in China. It means writing your representatives, in Congresss, and in the Senate. It means speaking out as an American when you see soldiers being shorted on benefits, that would benefit not only them, but America as a whole. After WWII, veterans pursued their education, using the GI Bill. At that time, the bill paid for a four year education. The GI Bill our troops come home to now, won''t even pay the full tuition for a four year degree at a public school, let alone the cost of books, housing, food, or any of the other amenities needed by todays students. The graduates who used the GI Bill after WWII won Nobel prizes, and are some of the greatest minds, and leaders in America. Shorting todays soldiers, only harms America''s future military, and America. Please take the time to write your representatives. If they supported the bill, let them know you appreciate it. If they don''t support it, let them know how you feel as an American. Even if you don''t support the war, support the troops who are stuck fighting in it. We appreciate the support. The magnets are still good to see too.

[missingamerica]

"The proposal would give veterans 15 years to use the benefit, instead of the current 10-year limit...".

At least 15...you''d think that, with all of the publicity about PTSD et al, even the greedy self-serving Republicans would understand that it can often take decades to get your chit together, post-military...if it ever happens, and you live that long...

[frantresa]

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[haoli25]

More than a few of us vets will be cheering loudly at the War Crimes Trial when this Texas Goon and his Wyoming monkey finally meet justice.

[frantresa]

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[kansas1946]

(CBS/AP) Congressional Democrats are pushing what could become the most dramatic expansion of college aid for military veterans since World War II, with a bill they hope will buoy them this election season and become an albatross for Republicans.

Pitched by the Democrats is a plan that would essentially guarantee a full-ride scholarship to any in-state public university, along with a monthly housing stipend, for individuals who serve the military for at least three years.
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Just seems ironic that it is the Democrats who want to "support our troops" when it is the Republicans that like to call them traitors. The only thing Republicans support is their brain-dead president that sent these soldiers into harms way without the proper equipment and not enough support.

[aldon61]

After WWII, congress passed " The soldiers and sailors civil relief act of 1945", this started the GI Bill; but it went much farther. Under the act, the GI bill was spawned, but it also suspended civilian debt while in the armed forces. I read too many tales of creditors hounding our military families while the family member is serving and sacrificing for all of us. If congress really wants to do something for our military, they should re-visit the circumstances that produced the first bill. Our military deserves (make that has earned) protection from the userers, and they also need better medical facilities. Look at the deteriorated Walter Reed Hospital. That is pathetic! I don''t care where we have to cut,how much we have to scrimp......let''s get our military taken care of; they''re dying for us.

[dluv357]

THIS IS THE LEAST THAT THEY CAN DO. THESE MEN AND WOMEN GIVE THIER LIVES FOR YOUR FREEDOM AND TO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SENATOR McCAIN HAS FORGOTTEN. I AM A SOLDIER AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL. I HAVE BEEN A SOLDIER WITH 13 YEARS OF ACTIVE FEDERAL SERVICE AND YES I WILL RETIRE IF GOD WILLS IT. DON''T TURN YOUR BACKS ON US WE ARE NOT TURNING OUR BACKS ON YOU. SENATOR McCAINS AND OTHERS ARE OPTING OUT OF THIS IMPORTANT BILL. IF THE BENEFITS IMPROVE SO WILL THE WANT TO SERVE. YOU GET MORE BEE''S WITH HONEY THAN YOU DO WITH VINEGER.

[walt1944-2009]

The evil, cowardly Whimpo-crats are once again attempting to spend money on returning military veterans by expanding the GI bill to include higher allowances for education.

As usual, The Great Emperor Bush II plans on vetoing the bill as being "too costly". Strangely, the Great Emperor doesn''t think that sacrificing a person''s life and/or livelihood is too costly, but paying for them afterwards is! Besides, isn''t this the same Emperor who insists on "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" when he wants the money to continue his wars in the Middle East?

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, DEFINITELY MORE OF THE SAME, McCain!!!!

[candy-apple]

Why can''t politicians make the bill about military veterans without trying to add ten thousand other things to it? It''s usually the added expenses that cause the problme.

[ricknuber]

"Hey Nazi Lover, what has your precious UN ever done for the US?.........Nothing"
Posted by hillaryin012 at 03:39 PM : May 12, 2008

Typical short-sighted ignorance from a Bush apologist. Here''s a clue, stupid: the UN provided some (albeit very thin) sense of legitimacy for Bush''s Iraq war. Remember the multiple UNSC resolutions Sadam had violated? Remember neocons waving those around as justification for invasion?

Of course you do. To a Bush apologist the UN, like everything else, is something to co-opt when it is politically expedient to do so, or to condemn when a new villain is required.

The Republican party: now, with artificial values!

[ioweign]

EARTH to NAZI!! I know it''''''''s tough on you freaks right now and you hunger for the good old days when you could just pluck a hate target out of the air but what in the wide wide world of the swastika does Extorting votes out of members of the UN have to do with this situation?? By the way, you can''''''''t honestly believe committing acts of extortion to get votes will work do you? I think when your pal Joe McCarthy tried that trick it blew up in his face. Now ready?? Sing it out so the Fuhrer can hear ya!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! Good bootlicker!!


Posted by MCVet at 03:17 PM : May 12, 2008

Hey Nazi Lover, what has your precious UN ever done for the US?.........Nothing

Posted by hillaryin012 at 03:39 PM : May 12, 2008


Well - with impeachment off the table - the UN would be the next logical choice...

[ioweign]

"Congressional Democrats are pushing what could become the most dramatic expansion of college aid for military veterans since World War II, with a bill they hope will buoy them this election season and become an albatross for Republicans"


Buoy~
An anchored or moored floating object,

Albatross~ the Yankee-owned ship that brought news of the outbreak of the War of 1812 to William Price Hunt, partner of the Pacific Fur Company, at its Astoria post in the disputed Oregon Territory. Hunt chartered the ship and removed the furs from Astoria to avoid possible British capture, thus abandoning the first American fur post on the Columbia River.

I understand how.. The election will become a ship for the Repos.. and the Demos want to be tied to that ship..


I''''m sure glad they have this answer tips at cbsnon-news so now I can follow the news better..

Posted by cornbiker at 12:43 PM : May 12, 2008

Just go listen to your hillbilly music...

[mcvet]

I agree with you Forthepeople.. We should never give ANY aid to any country that votes against the US at NATO if they vote against us more the 15% of the time.. (15% because we will never see eye to eye all the time).. Also no aid should be given in the way of weapons.. Food only... nothing more..


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Posted by cornbiker at 12:21 PM : May 12, 2008
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EARTH to NAZI!! I know it''s tough on you freaks right now and you hunger for the good old days when you could just pluck a hate target out of the air but what in the wide wide world of the swastika does Extorting votes out of members of the UN have to do with this situation?? By the way, you can''t honestly believe committing acts of extortion to get votes will work do you? I think when your pal Joe McCarthy tried that trick it blew up in his face. Now ready?? Sing it out so the Fuhrer can hear ya!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! Good bootlicker!!

[mcvet]

I understand how.. The election will become a ship for the Repos.. and the Demos want to be tied to that ship..


I''''m sure glad they have this answer tips at cbsnon-news so now I can follow the news better..


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Posted by cornbiker at 12:43 PM : May 12, 2008
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Typical FASCIST... can''t read and understand the meaning of even the most simple statements. Oh well... We should all be able to expect this from them by now. Sieg Heil Rush!!

[sjc_1]

After Junior gets done destroying this country and its economy, there will be no jobs for vets anyway. So we might as well help them get an education while we repair the damage. G.W. added $4 TRILLION to the national debt in less than 8 years, an all time record. If a Democrat had done even half as bad the Republicans would be howling bloody murder. But since it is their incompetent idiot that did it, you do not hear a peep out of them.

[stn_sage]

First, I''m in favor of some type of new GI Bill for veterans, especially the Iraq/Afghanistan vets, but the specifics of this bill are going to have to be hammered out. How''s it going to be paid for? 51 billion is a lot of money!

Second, what I DON''T like is how the Democrats are ''playing politics'' with this! They could have done this a year ago, it would have been implemented, and working to help vets! But NO! They wait until NOW, to propose this! As such, it''s NOT to their credit!

Third, this bill acts as a ''red herring'' to swift the focus away from the fact that they STILL have NOT fulfilled the public mandate they were given to END THE IRAQ WAR!

Finally, if they don''t START acting to correct B/C
blunders and move us forward; in 2010/2012, I predict Dems will be voted out in huge numbers. They could start by replacing Nancy Pelosi and getting a real majority leader! Then, go from there!