May 7, 2008

Clinton Aides Doubtful About Future

Washington Post: Following Disappointing Night, Candidate Renews Efforts to Get Party to Admit Michigan, Florida Votes

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(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Perry Bacon Jr. and Anne E. Kornblut.

After failing to win the decisive sweep in North Carolina and Indiana that could have reshaped the Democratic race, disappointed aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton conceded it would be difficult for her to catch Sen. Barack Obama in either delegates or overall votes in the six remaining contests.

The outcome caused the candidate and her campaign to intensify their efforts to persuade party leaders to include the results of disqualified contests in Michigan and Florida, both of which she won. The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws committee is scheduled to meet on May 31 to consider two challenges pending on whether, and how, to seat delegates from those states.

"Absent some sort of miracle on May 31st, it's going to be tough for us," said a senior Clinton official who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to be frank. "We lost this thing in February. We're doing everything we can now . . . but it's just an uphill battle."

As voters went to the polls yesterday, Clinton tried to recast the terms of the race, telling reporters that the number of delegates needed to win is "2,209," rather than the 2,025 needed without Michigan and Florida.

"There are going to be the rest of these contests, which are very significant, and then in June, if we haven't done it already, we're going to have to resolve Florida and Michigan," she told reporters during a daytime event at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "They were legitimate elections."

In a late-night speech here, Clinton said that "it would be a little strange to have a nominee chosen by 48 states."

Her aides also tried to stoke concerns yesterday among elected officials and party leaders, known as superdelegates, about whether Obama could win in November, with one warning of an "October surprise" that could ruin his chances.

"The superdelegates have to decide who is the best candidate to take on John McCain," campaign chairman Terence A. McAuliffe said. "Over the last week, that advantage has shifted to Senator Clinton."

Campaign officials said they would remind superdelegates that Indiana was a state that Obama aimed to win early on and at one point described as a tiebreaker in the race. They also said the results showed that Clinton continued to gain the support of the white, working-class voters they contend will be key to winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and other swing states in November.

Still, Clinton officials were increasingly worried that superdelegates, absent some overwhelming new evidence to make the case for Clinton, would move toward Obama to put an end to a race that many are worried is harming their chances in the fall.

"I don't think tonight is a game-changer," said Steve Grossman, a Clinton fundraiser and former chair of the DNC. "I don't think the results are going to surprise many people."

A Clinton adviser said the situation was increasingly becoming one in which "she cannot be nominated and he can't get elected."

The Clinton campaign has tried to sway voters and superdelegates for weeks by pointing to opinion polls that show Obama's favorability ratings steadily decreasing since his string of victories in February. His popularity hit bottom in recent weeks after Obama was quoted as saying that small-town Americans are "bitter" and with the airing of controversial remarks by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

But 64 percent of voters in Indiana and 69 percent in North Carolina said they would be satisfied with Obama as the Democratic nominee, according to exit polls, in line with the 69 percent who said the same in previous contests.

Likewise, superdelegates have continued to support Obama. In the two weeks since the Pennsylvania primary, which Obama lost by 10 percentage points, he has gained the support of about two dozen superdelegates, to the dozen or so that have backed Clinton.

Clinton's loss in North Carolina also pointed to an increasingly complicated dynamic for her campaign: More than 90 percent of African Americans, one of the most loyal factions in the Democratic party, favored Obama. That not only prevented Clinton from coming close but also makes it harder for her to woo superdelegates who would be loath to derail the chances of the most viable black presidential candidate in the country's history.

Rep. Brad Miller, an undecided superdelegate from North Carolina, said on the eve of his state's primary that he would be uncomfortable telling the African American community in his Raleigh area district that he would choose Clinton over Obama simply because he deemed her more electable.

"I'm not sure how I could tell them that," he said.

Clinton plans to continue to reach out to working-class voters with her plan for a gas tax "holiday" in the six contests that remain, but campaign aides acknowledged that changing the dynamics in any of those places will be difficult. The candidates are expected to split the remaining races, with Obama favored in Oregon, Montana and South Dakota and with Clinton given the edge in West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico.
Clinton's last chance for a big upset is in Oregon, where she will go Thursday, but she faces an uphill climb among an electorate that one of her aides described as "demographically polarized."

By Perry Bacon Jr. and Anne E. Kornblut
© 2008 The Washington Post Company
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by aggiekat2004 May 8, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
I''m white, and I don''t think skin color has anything to do with it. I like Obama''s message of change...what the heck...it can''t get much worse than it is now, can it?

About the only way things could get worse is if Hillary wins. Then we have to listen to her annoying screeching voice and put up with Bill for four more years.

I think Obama supporters are quieter than Hillary supporters. I think that Hillary supporters feel the need to yell and scream and cry foul, just like she does. I can only imagine what she''d be like in a moment of crisis. And I don''t want Bill picking up the phone at 3:00 a.m. Aw heck, it''s probably just pizza delivery and hookers anyway.
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by gce65 May 8, 2008 2:47 AM EDT
Shut up, truthyness!
You''ve still got Rush LIMPbaugh and his "Operation Chaos." Of course that''s just been helping Obama despite its stated goals. Talk to Rush at his next oxycontin party.
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by truthyness May 8, 2008 2:41 AM EDT
Thanks alot Black Democrats,

A win for Hillary WAS a sure thing.

The White House WAS a sure thing!!!!!
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by gkc99 May 8, 2008 2:20 AM EDT
If there''s one thing you can say about the Clintons, it''s that it''s always about them.

If they''re not in the limelight, by any means necessary, they''ll find a way to put themselves there.

Billy and Hilly will be happy to hand the presidency to McCain if Hilly can''t have it.

"Tell your ma, tell your pa, gonna send you back to Arkansas"--Ray Charles
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by k_c_waters May 8, 2008 12:29 AM EDT
Hillary keeps loaning her campaign millions she''d better save some for Ron Paul vs. Clinton''s civil campaign fraud case in Calif.


Obama 08''
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by boatdocster May 7, 2008 11:18 PM EDT
"There are going to be the rest of these contests, which are very significant, and then in June, if we haven''t done it already, we''re going to have to resolve Florida and Michigan," she told reporters during a daytime event at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "They were legitimate elections."

NEWSFLASH to HILLARY - Florida and Michigan have already been resovled, and you agreed they WOULD NOT COUNT - before they voted you agreed they were NOT LEGITIMATE because they went early.

I absolutley do not a President who continously lies and changes the rules every day to suit her whims... Had all that I can stomach from George W. "SHRUB" Bush

The combiantion of excessive lies and sniper fire must be affecting your memory... Your done, you lost, go home and let the Demorcrats bear McCain in November
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
"What successful negotiation skills? Both Hillary and McCain have worked across the aisle...when has Obama? When has he successfully negotiated anything?

Posted by tazmjam at 02:52 PM : May 07, 2008"


Only his whole 11 year career in politics. If you''d bother to do a minimum of research instead of parroting FOX talking points you might have a clue and not look like a complete moron.
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
"Is Fox news the only news organization that tells it like it is and is for the United States??????????????????????????????????
???????

Posted by hungrymama at 04:41 PM : May 07, 2008"


Wow the stupid ones are out in force today. FOX news is the only one for the United states...yup your family tree is a stick isn''t it.
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by moonshadow22 May 7, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
Is it time for Clinton to give it up, NOW? Her
"close" race in NC turned out to be a significant win for Obama, and her "decided advantage" in Indiana gave her a"win" there. Her win was not subtantial, though. Atlast count she had less than a 15,000 vote advantage
out of 1.25 million votes cast.

If she continues her campaign as it has been in recent
weeks, one can only assume that she is intent on
dragging as many people down with her as she goes down
the drain. She has waged a good solid contest, but
the people have spoken and she was not chosen as the
winner.

She continues to move the goalposts trying to justify
her staying in the campaign. This strategy is very
similar to the Bush Administration''s changing the
definition of "victory" in Iraq. It''s time for
Hillary to retain her dignity, ensure a positive
legacy for Bubba, and begin to unite the Democratic
Party behind the duly chosen presumptive nominee by
stepping out of the race gracefully.

By staying in the race she will only serve to do the
Republicans'' legwork by hitting Obama with every
negative innuendo imaginable and reinforcing many
Americans'' opinion of her as a backhanded, vindictive,
bitter b**** bent on personal power at any cost.
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by wolfi101 May 7, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
"How can Obama win the general election when he can''''t even get half of the Democrat caucasian vote?"

You''re assuming, that white people would vote for McCain simply because they have skin color in common.

I''m one of those Independent, white honkies. I''ve been supporting Obama since Iowa. We need change. McCain offers up nothing but more war, debt, and fear.

( I could give a rat''s @$$ about skin color. )
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by hungryman9 May 7, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
Is Fox news the only news organization that tells it like it is and is for the United States?????????????????????????????????????????
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by truthyness May 7, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
Of course this article is bull puckey.

But here''s something that isn''t..a must see for all Hillary supporters. It made my day and I think it will make yours too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5W5jyPQ_I

HILLARY''08

pass it on....
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by maiziejames May 7, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
For those of you who won''t vote for Obama if Clinton looses, and for those of you who won''t vote for Clinton if Obama looses:

When I was in sixth grade, there was an election for class president. In the first round four students were chosen. From this group, the two who received the highest votes would go on to compete for class president. When the time came to cast our votes, many kids where saying, "If my friend doesn''t win I''m not going to vote in the final round." Finally, two were selected. One student was really smart/brainy, and the other was very popular. The winner would need 50 percent of the class votes to become class president. And you guessed it. No one won. But I did get elected class secretary. TRUE STORY.

My point is, I''m hoping that those of you who have allegiance to the democratic ticket, that you will behave better than six graders. (Thank goodness I''m an Independent.)
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by lalabradle May 7, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
From the sound of it, some of you are saying blacks are only voting for Obama because he''s black. Don''t put yourselves up to far above that because you are only voting McCain because he is white. So what is the difference? If Obama does win, does that mean that some of you white people will leave this country?
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by tazmjam May 7, 2008 5:52 PM EDT
We may not all like Obama but we do need someone with successful negotiations skills on the WORLD stage.
Let us all get over our melanin issue and go green. America''''s future depends on it.
Posted by patsy_owens



What successful negotiation skills? Both Hillary and McCain have worked across the aisle...when has Obama? When has he successfully negotiated anything? There are many reasons to be concerned about an Obama Presidency and it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin. I%u2019m really quite sick of this %u201Cif you don%u2019t support Obama you%u2019re a racist%u201D thing.
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by neoconslayer May 7, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
joecoolswat: i DON''T want to rip on you personally, but i troll these boards for lousy arguments.
Yes, Obama may be a lousy president. Worst-case scenario: he becomes the second worst president in history.
However, Obama will not be a lousy president because he has a funny name, lived in a foreign country, or can''t bowl.
Nor will he be a lousy president because of the lies people tell/repeat.
I apologize for being, well, rude, but stupid people all around me are destroying my country''s future.
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by neoconslayer May 7, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
joecoolswat: It has been proven that the SwiftBoat Vets lied for political purposes.
Your hatred and contempt for America (or at least your inability to follow up on things) is shown in your ''ahoy'' comment.
As a result, I don''t think you are just trying to have a ''conversation''.

On the bright side, Fox News is waiting to tell you what to think...
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by joecoolswat May 7, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
neoconslayer...we may differ in opinions, but thanks for the support against this rediculous cut-and-pastes over and over, when we are trying to discuss different views and opinions.

PS: Thats why I used the words "former", as he is now christian or "former" christian.
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by neoconslayer May 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
joecoolswat: Your statement concerning the ''former muslim'', obviously a reference to Sen. Obama, is a lie.
There is no evidence that Mr. Obama was ever a practicing Muslim at any time of his life, though he may have attended some services as a very young boy.
Of course, since you can''t use the N-word, like you do with your friends, then you need to make up something.

Nothing reveals more COWARDICE than popstom1 laying out his anonymous death threat.
That it was aimed at another anonymous person increases this by a factor of ten.
(Also makes it funny as hell to US Army Veterans!)
Of course, it is possible that ''cap you for free'' is what Sen. Larry Craig was trying to signal to that undercover cop in Minnesota...
Personally, i choose to pretend that he never wrote that.

omaar-101: for all his faults, joecoolswat did have a point concerning the irrelevant *** that you posted here. The story is about Clinton, McCain is only mentioned in passing, and, yes, your anti-McCain rant just doesn''t belong here.
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by joecoolswat May 7, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
Omaar-101......So you want a metal? because you served in the air force years ago...That gives you a special right to cut and paste all kinds of garbage in our faces, when we are trying to have a conversation.

You will see, how your Obama, with all his good bloodline, is going to get creamed in the general election. We don''t want any American-Hating Know-nothing Liberal as president. Swift-boats ahoy !!!

Say hello to President McCain !!!

You piece of $hit
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