May 7, 2008

Clinton Aides Doubtful About Future

Washington Post: Following Disappointing Night, Candidate Renews Efforts to Get Party to Admit Michigan, Florida Votes

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(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Perry Bacon Jr. and Anne E. Kornblut.

After failing to win the decisive sweep in North Carolina and Indiana that could have reshaped the Democratic race, disappointed aides to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton conceded it would be difficult for her to catch Sen. Barack Obama in either delegates or overall votes in the six remaining contests.

The outcome caused the candidate and her campaign to intensify their efforts to persuade party leaders to include the results of disqualified contests in Michigan and Florida, both of which she won. The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws committee is scheduled to meet on May 31 to consider two challenges pending on whether, and how, to seat delegates from those states.

"Absent some sort of miracle on May 31st, it's going to be tough for us," said a senior Clinton official who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to be frank. "We lost this thing in February. We're doing everything we can now . . . but it's just an uphill battle."

As voters went to the polls yesterday, Clinton tried to recast the terms of the race, telling reporters that the number of delegates needed to win is "2,209," rather than the 2,025 needed without Michigan and Florida.

"There are going to be the rest of these contests, which are very significant, and then in June, if we haven't done it already, we're going to have to resolve Florida and Michigan," she told reporters during a daytime event at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "They were legitimate elections."

In a late-night speech here, Clinton said that "it would be a little strange to have a nominee chosen by 48 states."

Her aides also tried to stoke concerns yesterday among elected officials and party leaders, known as superdelegates, about whether Obama could win in November, with one warning of an "October surprise" that could ruin his chances.

"The superdelegates have to decide who is the best candidate to take on John McCain," campaign chairman Terence A. McAuliffe said. "Over the last week, that advantage has shifted to Senator Clinton."

Campaign officials said they would remind superdelegates that Indiana was a state that Obama aimed to win early on and at one point described as a tiebreaker in the race. They also said the results showed that Clinton continued to gain the support of the white, working-class voters they contend will be key to winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and other swing states in November.

Still, Clinton officials were increasingly worried that superdelegates, absent some overwhelming new evidence to make the case for Clinton, would move toward Obama to put an end to a race that many are worried is harming their chances in the fall.

"I don't think tonight is a game-changer," said Steve Grossman, a Clinton fundraiser and former chair of the DNC. "I don't think the results are going to surprise many people."

A Clinton adviser said the situation was increasingly becoming one in which "she cannot be nominated and he can't get elected."

The Clinton campaign has tried to sway voters and superdelegates for weeks by pointing to opinion polls that show Obama's favorability ratings steadily decreasing since his string of victories in February. His popularity hit bottom in recent weeks after Obama was quoted as saying that small-town Americans are "bitter" and with the airing of controversial remarks by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

But 64 percent of voters in Indiana and 69 percent in North Carolina said they would be satisfied with Obama as the Democratic nominee, according to exit polls, in line with the 69 percent who said the same in previous contests.

Likewise, superdelegates have continued to support Obama. In the two weeks since the Pennsylvania primary, which Obama lost by 10 percentage points, he has gained the support of about two dozen superdelegates, to the dozen or so that have backed Clinton.

Clinton's loss in North Carolina also pointed to an increasingly complicated dynamic for her campaign: More than 90 percent of African Americans, one of the most loyal factions in the Democratic party, favored Obama. That not only prevented Clinton from coming close but also makes it harder for her to woo superdelegates who would be loath to derail the chances of the most viable black presidential candidate in the country's history.

Rep. Brad Miller, an undecided superdelegate from North Carolina, said on the eve of his state's primary that he would be uncomfortable telling the African American community in his Raleigh area district that he would choose Clinton over Obama simply because he deemed her more electable.

"I'm not sure how I could tell them that," he said.

Clinton plans to continue to reach out to working-class voters with her plan for a gas tax "holiday" in the six contests that remain, but campaign aides acknowledged that changing the dynamics in any of those places will be difficult. The candidates are expected to split the remaining races, with Obama favored in Oregon, Montana and South Dakota and with Clinton given the edge in West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico.
Clinton's last chance for a big upset is in Oregon, where she will go Thursday, but she faces an uphill climb among an electorate that one of her aides described as "demographically polarized."

By Perry Bacon Jr. and Anne E. Kornblut
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by pepperwood2 May 7, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
I like others thought Hillary had what it takes. She didn''t let us down. She took the low road of bitterly attacking & bashing Obama & Rev Wright and close to a $500,000,000 dollars of contributions and still counting.

Bill, Chelsae, Rendell & the Campaign Committee really won. They get paid up front.

After all she is still there for us. That is, for all the Fund Raisers. 35 years experience has PAID off for the Clintons. ITS ALL ABOUT ME. Wheeeeeee this is FUND time. I''m just warming up. CACKLE CACKLE CACKLE

"Don''t forget the Superdelegates are on my side and their not happy that Obama doesn''t know his place." Soooooo Sad what the Clintons & the Old Guard Demos have done to the Democratic Party & its not over yet.
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by riptide213 May 7, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
Barack Obama is dynamic and simply has an unbeatable euphoria factor which is to exciting and uplifting to ignore. We need change. We need it now.

%u201CThe Obamainator%u201D is back and has a message for the future. Change now or stagnate.

America was forged from the energy and inspiration of change from status quo of the day.

People do not want elected reruns or rehashed modus operandi zapping our tax money, again. Yesterdays political Ground Hog Day perpetrators need to call it a day.

Change is in the air! The people are ready to speak with their hopes and votes.

Exercise your rights, get out and vote, be a citizen worth defending. If you dont use your protected right to vote; then dont ever complain about who gets into public office.

Voters dont just want to write a new chapter in the same old political saga they are keen to throw out the entire pungent book.

Get excited about being a voter in the 21st Century, you can make a difference:

Mover and Shaker Needed. 4 Year Contract.

House and transportation provided.

New talents please apply.

New methods preferable, but actions MUST speak louder than words.

Innovative everything wanted for a new fangled, bold leap forward.

Hire Date: 4 Nov 08 Start Date: 21 Jan 09

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by tonyd_31 May 7, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
Well fought battle but now it is time to unite the party and get down to the business at hand, "take back the Whitehouse". Go DEMS!!
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by briannorwood May 7, 2008 9:43 AM PDT
I am increasingly believing that Hillary Clinton is purposely trying to torpedo the Obama campaign with the hope that she can run again in 2012.

There can be no other explanation for her continuing this fight. As her own campaign operative said in this article "we lost this thing in February".

It is time for the wimpy "superdelegates" to get of their behinds and do the right thing.
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by spinster2 May 7, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
I am increasingly believing that Hillary Clinton is purposely trying to torpedo the Obama campaign with the hope that she can run again in 2012.

There can be no other explanation for her continuing this fight. As her own campaign operative said in this article "we lost this thing in February".

It is time for the wimpy "superdelegates" to get of their behinds and do the right thing.


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Posted by briannorwood
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Heck, Ted Kennedy went all the way to the convention floor when he was down a whopping six hundred delegates.
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by In-Correct May 7, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
"Change" what?? Possibly too much. Change is not always positive. Neither is making a diffenence. "Mover And Shaker"?! A good description of "Obaminator"''s character, but a terrible description of the position of President Of The United States. Actions are more important than words, which is all Obama has. He is as convincing as some other presidents that have not done as well as they said, making Obama the one that is more able to relate to things like "the same old political saga, elected rerun".
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by jack3213 May 7, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
MICH & FLORIDA CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING- FOR IF THEY DID- THE RULE GOES OUT THE WINDOW IN THE FUTURE -ABOUT SIGNING ON IN THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE PRIMARY VOTE -IN THE FUTURE- BESIDES CLINTON LIED ABOUT AGREEING BY KEEPING HER NAME ON THE BALLOT. WHY DO PEOPLE IGNORE THAT? SHE IS DONE- THEY ( ALL THE CLINTONS) SHOULD SHOW RESPECT FOR THEIR PARTY AND BOW OUT. THEY WON''T. WHY? THEY ARE SELFISH AND PURE LIARS
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by jockh May 7, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
BREAKING NEWS... on CNN....CLINTON LOANED ANOTHER $6.4 MILLION TO HER CAMPAIGN

She is broke !!

Quick Rowdy, you better increase those monthly donations to Hillary that you keep talking about.

But please remember Hillary will get ALL her money back because its a LOAN; you however will only have your memories and a smaller bank balance.

Hillary relies on suckers like you to GIVE your money, while she cleverly LOANS hers.

When this is over she will have a bath in 100 dollar bills because all her 110 million dollar fortune is still there !!!!!!!
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by In-Correct May 7, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
**Just to clafify something, Obama has words only, and not actions. Actually he only has one word.
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by spinster2 May 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
"Don''''t forget the Superdelegates are on my side and their not happy that Obama doesn''''t know his place." Soooooo Sad what the Clintons & the Old Guard Demos have done to the Democratic Party & its not over yet.



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Posted by pepperwood2
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Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosie, Carter, and such ARE the old guard. They''ve been there since before you were born and they ALL support Obama.
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by In-Correct May 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
....And, The Clintons are not the ones that are liars.
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by realpatriot1 May 7, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
in-correct,

The Clintons are not the ones who are liars? Is that supposed to be a joke?

I get it...sarcasm! LOL!!
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
All this focus on the Dems trying to pick between Obama and Hillary - and the funny thing is that neither one of them has a chance to beat McCain anyway!

Hillary''s unfavorable rating has consistently been over 50%, and now that people have learned about Obama''s friends (Wright, the anti-American pastor, and Ayers, the domestic terrorist that bombed the Pentagon), 70% of voters say they have are less likely to vote for him.

McCain is a weak candidate for the Republicans, since he is old and too liberal, but the Dems have handed him the election by picking two totally unelectable candidates.
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by craigh9 May 7, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
Ding dong the witch is dead, which old witch - the wicked witch, ding dong the wicked witch is dead.

Pay no attention to her lack of pledged delegates, popular vote, or superdelegate support behind the curtain!

When asked for a quote regarding last nights primaries Hillary said "I''m melting, I''m melting - what a world, what a world"
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by caliguy55 May 7, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
For anyone who doesn''t believe McSame will live up to his name:

John McCain%u2019s senior campaign staff and President Bush%u2019s senior White House staff are so close that the McCain folks let the Bush folks know in advance whenever McCain is about to distance himself from the unpopular president, says a top McCain aide. Case in point, says Charlie Black, was McCain%u2019s criticism last week of Bush%u2019s handling of Hurricane Katrina. %u201CDisgraceful%u201D is how McCain classified it during a New Orleans campaign stop. %u201CWe have an excellent relationship with the White House,%u201D Black told reporters at a Friday lunch. %u201CThe senior staffs talk literally every day, sometimes more than once a day.%u201D%u201CSo they realize that from time to time we will disagree with the president on issues. And the important thing is to coordinate and, whenever possible, give them a heads-up about what we are going to say so that they can be prepared for it. They knew that we were going to New Orleans and going to the Ninth Ward and knew what to expect, so I don%u2019t think they were surprised,%u201D Black said.
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by caliguy55 May 7, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
Sorry TawpDawg11, but when they were registering is not the point. Rather, the fact that there are so many newly registered Democratic voters (who certainly didn''t register to vote for McSame) speaks volumes about the landslide that will bury McSame in November.
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by craigh9 May 7, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
She does a good job for NY and still has a job here as Senator.
Posted by zoe2006 at 10:24 AM : May 07, 2008

That''s your opinion, I''m from NY and I and many others see this as the down side to her losing the nomination.
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
Caliguy55 - are you implying that McCain and Bush are similar because McCain warns Bush when he is going to disagree with him? That is a flawed argument - the mere fact that McCain often disagrees with Bush is proof that they are not the same.

By the way, I''m a big Bush fan and would love for McCain to be more like Bush. Unfortunately, they are different in many ways.
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by terrapin78 May 7, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
....he mere fact that McCain often disagrees with Bush is proof that they are not the same.

By the way, I''''m a big Bush fan and would love for McCain to be more like Bush. Unfortunately, they are different in many ways.

Posted by bobmarisol at 10:31 AM : May 07, 2008


Then why did McBu$h vote to allow torture and vote for other issues he disagreed with the Commander in Chimp thus flip flopping on his position?

He is no different than the village idiot that was appointed President.
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
Eatmochicken - ummm, whether or not Obama wins the blacks are not beneath the white race. Sorry you look so down on yourself that you think you are beneath whites unless Obama wins.

You should check out the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - that is when Blacks were granted equal rights as whites - thus ending any period in which blacks were legally ''beneath'' whites
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by shawnp1968 May 7, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
Someone.... PLEASE!!!! Please break both of Hillary''s ankles so that we can put her down on the track too!!!

Hillary........ 8 Belles finished a respectable 2nd too!!! Get overyourself!
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by blackbug99 May 7, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
Why even have party elections, if it comes down to the "Super Delegates" deciding? It''s such a sham to think that the voters are fooled into thinking they get to choose. It''s always the party bosses, with their own agendas, who chose who we can elect. Screw both party''s. I''m independent. I compare it to flying, "I like a left wing and a right wing but I''d rather sit in the middle."
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by km35 May 7, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
While you''re at it, how about an equally biased story about "anonymous aids" of Obama publicly concerned over his unelectability...or any other gratuitous, editorialized, unsourced topic.
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by redlipsahead May 7, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
Hillary must continue the primary race to prevent a racial presidential race in November. With Obama getting over 90% of the black vote and more than that in black communities, it is clear he will get the black vote in November. On the other hand, McCain will
get the majority of votes from whites. The race will become racial, black vs white. Obama will have no chance to win. The blacks are voting for Obama because he is black, not for what he has done as a senator or what his ideas are. Hillary has similar ideas but does not get the black vote only because Obama is black. McCain will easily sweep this country in November vs Obama. Even if Hillary begs for everyone to unite, it won''t happen. November will become a racially motivated race. I won''t vote for Obama no matter what, and I am a democrat. Many will say in public they will vote for Obama, but behind closed doors in November, they will vote for McCain.
Hillary must stay in the race, as Obama still can stumble. Someone might soon find out the dirty side of Obama. Scandals always seem to appear, drugs, ***, bribery, and other things.

Hillary, it''s not over until it''s over.
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
"While you''''re at it, how about an equally biased story about "anonymous aids" of Obama publicly concerned over his unelectability...or any other gratuitous, editorialized, unsourced topic.

Posted by km35 at 10:50 AM : May 07, 2008"


Perhaps if there were any they would.
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by mjvw2 May 7, 2008 11:00 AM PDT
go Hildabeast go
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by redlipsahead May 7, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
Cavs5714. Because I will NEVER vote for OBAMA vs Hillary or McCain does not make me any of the following things you stated. How hard is it for you to understand that OBAMA can''t and hasn''t cleaned up Chicago or Illinois and is not qualified to be president.

cavs5714 said... redlipsahead - you really are the epitome of the average american - ie dumb, brainless, stupid and moronic. The only reason the redneck inbred trailer trash (that''''s whites to braindead idiots like you) vote for that pperveretd geriatric senile *** Magoo is because he''''s white......they''''re incapable of thinking (par for the course among americans) to vote on real issues. It''''s somewhat like the retarded american people who voted for the current simian occupant of the white house because he eats grits
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by pensacola88 May 7, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
I think that rumors of Clinton''s campaign death are higly exagerated. Hillary Clinton would just love her opponents to believe such a thing and put their supporters to sleep.

The math is clearly not in her favor, but I don''t beleive there is only one "Jeremiah Wright" to poop in Obama''s punch bowl.

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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
"On the other hand, McCain will
get the majority of votes from whites. The race will become racial, black vs white.

Posted by redlipsahead at 10:54 AM : May 07, 2008"


25% of the Republicans who showed up to the polls in IN, NC and Penn voted AGAINST McCain. Republican turn out has been the worst in decades. Newt Gingrich is publicly warning the Republicans in congress of an imminent collapse of the Republican party. Republicans have been crossing over to vote in Dem primaries to desperately try to change the Dem nominee to Hillary out of fear of an Obama blow out in Nov. The party that votes out of fear and votes against it''s own candidate will most definitely loose.

Dems, on the other hand, have been turning up to the polls in record numbers and voting FOR their candidates. The votes for Obama have been across all demographics, race, age, ***, income.

To say that this is going to be a black vs white thing is simply not looking at the facts of the voting so far.
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by jockh May 7, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
Hillary Clinton has raised more then $198 million dollars for her campaign and yet is $15 million in debt.

This goes to show why she is unfit to be President.
$15 million in debt and she claims to have passed the Steward of the Economy test.

But Hillary made LOANS to her campaign and now she will want that money repaid so all you Hillary Supporters like RowdyTexan, you better increase your donations to Hillarys campaign.

But please remember Hillary will get ALL her money back, because its a LOAN; you however will only have your memories and a smaller bank balance.

Hillary relies on suckers like you to GIVE your money, while she cleverly LOANS hers.

When this is over she will have a bath in 100 dollar bills because all her 110 million dollar fortune is still there ! But don%u2019t worry she will be thinking of you and your kind donations !
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by efarris38 May 7, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
Well, rest assured OBAMA WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE. If Clinton goes home then McCain gets my vote. Obama will never be President.
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by jgunther7 May 7, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
I doubt if she is using her own money. Could be outsourcing or NAFTA paybacks. Hillary is the founder and chairman of the Senate India Caucus. One of her biggest donors, Sant Singh Chatwal, cited that Clinton%u2019s India Caucus has vowed to raise $5 million dollars for her from companies that outsource American Jobs to India. - Sound familiar, $5 million, India raises $5 million for Hillary, Hillary loans $5 million to her primary campaign. Doe%u2019s that mean the India Caucus provided $5 for Hillary%u2019s primary campaign? If so it was a bad investment. - In the February 2005 issue of The India Review / On a recent trip to India, Senator Clinton laid to rest India%u2019s fears that outsourcing American jobs would end. On that trip Senator Clinton said, %u201COUTSOURCING of AMERICAN Jobs will continue%u201D, and they have. - The people of the United States supported Clinton and she outsourced their jobs. The people of the United States voted for her and she rewarded India with their jobs. Somebody is being scamed. She diverts our attention with little hissy fits about trivia that doesn%u2019t matter while her husband Bill and manager Penn are carrying bags of money out the back door.- Now another 6.4 million, we have to question where this originated.
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
Why is it that Blacks always vote for Democrats? Can anybody name anything that Dems have done for blacks lately?

Remember Bush put three minorities into very high government positions - he put Condi Rice as Secretary of State, Colin Powell as Secretary of State, and Alberto Gonzalez as Attorney General

Who did Bill Clinton put into such high positions? Anybody? Or nobody?
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
"How hard is it for you to understand that OBAMA can''''t and hasn''''t cleaned up Chicago or Illinois and is not qualified to be president.

Posted by redlipsahead at 11:03 AM : May 07, 2008"


He has more experience in elected office than either Reagan or Bill Clinton did when they were elected President, he has more experience in elected office than does Hillary.

During Obama''s time in office, violent crime in Illinois was reduced, during Hillary''s time in office, violent crime in NY was reduced, during McCains time in office, violent crime in AZ has doubled.

Your claim that Obama hasn''t cleaned up Chicago is silly. The people most responsible for changing crime in any major city are it''s police chief and it''s mayor and to some extent it''s Governor. Obama passed dozens of pieces of legislation that helped reduce crime in Illinois as evidenced by the reduction in crime during his tenure as state senator.

You''re simply grasping at straws, you obviously haven''t done any research and really don''t know what you are talking about. Thanks for playing...Bob, tell our guest about her parting gift.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/ilcrime.htm
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/azcrime.htm
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
Also, Justice Thomas - the only black man on the Supreme Court - was appointed by a Republican, not a Democrat.
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
"Obama will never be President.

Posted by EFarris38 at 11:16 AM : May 07, 2008"


I''m sure your vote will be the one that turns the tide for McCain....yea, not so much.
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
"Also, Justice Thomas - the only black man on the Supreme Court - was appointed by a Republican, not a Democrat.

Posted by bobmarisol at 11:20 AM : May 07, 2008"


Not to be vulga, but that was tokenism at it''s very worst with about the worst sort of token available.
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by bobmarisol May 7, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
Why is it that Blacks always vote for Democrats? Can anybody name anything that Dems have done for blacks lately?

Remember Bush put three minorities into very high government positions - he put Condi Rice as Secretary of State, Colin Powell as Secretary of State, and Alberto Gonzalez as Attorney General

Who did Bill Clinton put into such high positions? Anybody? Or nobody?

Also, Justice Thomas - the only black man on the Supreme Court - was appointed by a Republican, not a Democrat.

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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
"Hillary Clinton would just love her opponents to believe such a thing and put their supporters to sleep.

Posted by Pensacola88 at 11:06 AM : May 07, 2008"


Yes, of course, this has all been a clever plan to lull her opponents into thinking that Obama will be the Dem nominee. Then, when the time is ripe, she will pounce and a miracle will happen and God''s hand will come down from on high and she will be anointed. Yes, of course, it''s all so clear to me now.
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by jgunther7 May 7, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
jockh - I like your style; her 110 million dollar fortune will still be there ! Most likely in a secret offshore bank account like where they keep their Clinton Foundation Charity funds. They made this money during or after Bill''s presidency, now they want more. And they get these little suckers to give them more money. It is not fair to say the Clintons appeal to the uneducated, the dumb would be a better word. However they are running out of donors, there are only so many dumb people.
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by jack3213 May 7, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
Democrats are Done. If they care at all about the American people they should both concede. Those who favor Clinton- when she finally quits- will vote for McCain. There is no way Obama will win the general. Common sense people..lets get on with it so McCain can get started on the changes we all want!
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by riptide213 May 7, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
Barack Obama is urbane enough to accept the challenge while still gaining experience.

Clearly he is the only candidate offering a breath of potentially fresh political vitality.

Nice to read folks are already referring to %u201CThe Obamainator%u201D as the electable candidate.

Historically no candidate has ever been perfect, no matter how polished or experienced they appeared to the voters of the day.

Today%u2019s voters are becoming more discerning.

Thankfully the same old %u201Cpolitical Playdough%u201D recipes are simply not going to cut it anymore. We the people are starting to have our voice; again in national affairs.

Perhaps voters are truly aspiring and optimistic for change. We can only do our part one vote at a time while fulfilling our most fundamental contribution to a democracy.

Most would agree its time for real political transformation. The proverbial thin line between genius and radical may need to be straddled to achieve great things.

Both image and substance of national politics and policy is increasingly losing touch with the common citizen and common sense. US must signify a better place for us, all of us.

Which candidate appears to have the oomph and catalyst to bring something different to the forefront?
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by tejasdemo May 7, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
Go Obama !!!

Wake up Geezer plus ( McCain )...it''s go time !
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by taddles-2009 May 7, 2008 11:55 AM PDT
"Common sense people..lets get on with it so McCain can get started on the changes we all want!

Posted by jack3213 at 11:45 AM : May 07, 2008"


What changes do you want that McCain will provide? McCain''s campaign is full of paid corporate lobbyists, you think they''re going to recommended he make changes that effect average peoples lives over corporate bottom lines?

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by bsbc2 May 7, 2008 11:58 AM PDT
It''s a shame to watch a former President participate in an all out attack by undermining the qualification of a no name rookie Senator that has the ability to challenge the Clintons right to the throne.
To listen to our media commentators that cannot hide their desire to see Clinton smash this no name Senator who has the audacity to challenge them even as they change the rules.
Mr. Obama, not perfect, but has demonstrated a level of integrity that is lacking beginning in media and stretching into our whole political structure. He has done all he can to avoid "attacking" because his goal is to bring together folks that ordinarily would have nothing to do with each other. We are experiencing a overwhelming increase of people of all backgrounds, especially young people, coming out to participate in our democracy. This is not because of the Clintons or any of the old established politician. It is clearly due to a new politician that has had the courage to tap into a longing of the American citizenship that they are tired of the old way of doing things that major in keeping people segregated, fragmented, and blaming each other for the problems we all share. Now we have a person that is focusing on bringing everyone together not to fight or blame each other but to acknowledge our differences and more importantly our unified goal of a better nation for all.
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by omaar-101 May 7, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
McCain = The Same

Grandpa Factor: All Moderate Republicans & Independent Thinking Republicans, The Independents, The Middle Age & Younger Voters (Of All Race) will Not Vote For ..

Grandpa McCain !!


1. The Middle Aged will Not Vote for McCain, because their 25 Yrs. Close to being Him and they Have Children in a 20 Billion $ Per Month Farce Of a War, in Iraq & Afghanistan !!

2. The 30 yr old dont want a 72 yr old War Mongering, lets Stay in 20 Billion $ Per Month Farce Of a War in Iraq & Afghanistan !!

3. High School College Kids: 20 -18 Yr old, regardless of their Race will Not Vote for McCain, because they dont want to be in that 20 Billion per Month Iraq & Afghanistan Farce of a War...Period

4. McCain Voted for the 20 Billion $ War in Iraq & Afghanistan and says we will stay there as longas it takes, 100 Yrs if we have to. Mccain made his Biggest Blunder and shows his Lack of Coherent Thinking, McCain shouldve waited to make such a statement, but During the primaries, he cant Distance himself from those Words Spoken...He Cant !!

5. Youth will Prevail, Color will be of No Importance, Religion will Not... But a 46 yr old man, that Looks like a 36 Yr old man, facing a 72 yr old GrandPa will be a Physical Mix Match, more glaring than the Kennedy & Nixon Face To Face...McCain wants Hillary...Not a Face Off with Obama..Believe It !!
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by efarris38 May 7, 2008 12:00 PM PDT
You said it best! Now that you Obama''s have the nomination then enjoy it while you can!! I am one of those Clinton voters that you know you will nned in the fall. But gues what, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA! So you win the battle but lose the war, I can assure you that at least half the Clinton supporters I know will not vote for Obama. I will not change my mind either. His Rev Wright thing was enough to make anyone sick and disgusted as well as the "bitter" comment. He will be okay as the junior Senator from Illinois when all is said and done. You can''t win the general election without the support of the Clinton voters, plain and simple.
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by x32792 May 7, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
The Clintons have "loaned" themselves another $6.4 million. This is in addition to the $5 million they have already "loaned" themselves. This means someone will have to give them $11-12 million to drop out of the race. So where do I send my donation to get them to drop out of the race?
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by pam1sadge May 7, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
I agree that most-likely, John McCain will be the next president. I am a democrat who voted for Hillary, but her chances are slim to none at this point in becoming the nominee, therefore, I will either sit out the general election or vote for McCain. This will be the concensus of many of Hillary''s supporters because I am NOT voting for Obama under any circumstances for all the obvious reasons, lack of experience being at the top of the list. No experience is a set up to failure for this poor man. I can also understand why the superdelegates will need to back him up, but he is not electable against McCain and the democrats have screwed themselves with all their rules and regulations when they could make this process clear and simple, like apparently the Republicans do since they have had their candidate for several months now. The Michigan and Florida fiasco is just that. The citizens of those two states did not make the choice to up the date of their voting process, it was the elected officials that did that, and they should all be fired. This makes me want to switch parties.
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by omaar-101 May 7, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
McGovern, (Former Clinton Backer), Urges Her ToDROP OUT !!

McGovern Urges Clinton To Drop Out Of Democratic Presidential Race, He Now (Endorses Obama)

Omaar: Im a Southerner, Raised in SC, Lived in NC and Lives in GA, all these states have Voted for Obama.


When Ultra Confederate Southerner ''George McGovern'' Now Endorses Obama, thats One He!! of a Statement...Yall

One He!! of a Statement...Yall


(AP) Former Sen. George McGovern, who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton, is urging her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race.

McGovern said Wednesday he has decided to endorse Barack Obama.

After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern says it''s virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination.

McGovern says he is calling former President Clinton to tell him of the decision and adds that he remains close friends with the Clintons.
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