Is Clinton Done?

Analysis: CBSNews.com's Vaughn Ververs Says Clinton's Narrow Victory In Indiana Puts Her In A Precarious Position

(CBS)  This analysis was written by CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs.

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Hillary Clinton may have gotten what she needed to keep her uphill quest for the Democratic nomination alive - but by the barest of margins. She is now running out of both the time, and chances she needs to stay alive.

A razor-thin victory in Indiana and a blowout loss in North Carolina is unlikely to immediately drive Clinton out of a race she has fought so long to win. But with just six contests remaining and more party superdelegates available now than winnable delegates, her path to the nomination has nearly vanished.

Barack Obama emerged from the contest with a net gain in delegates, and there are now more superdelegates up for grabs (267 according to CBS News estimates) than pledged delegates in the remaining contests (217). He will also log a big gain in the overall popular vote thanks to his big North Carolina showing. Clinton faces favorable terrain in upcoming states like West Virginia and Kentucky but can’t come close to winning enough delegates or votes to narrow those margins substantially.

Despite losing in Indiana, Obama put some questions to rest tonight. Most importantly, he demonstrated that he could weather the kind of firestorm created by his controversial former pastor Jeremiah Wright after two weeks of the more intense scrutiny he has faced thus far in the campaign. Obama also showed he could come back from a big loss in Pennsylvania in the middle of it all and right the ship.

The Clinton campaign was quick to point out that Obama had called Indiana a “tiebreaker” contest and claimed a victory there gives them an edge in that argument. But the failure to achieve anything more than a virtual “tie” in Indiana may not inspire the party leaders she now needs in overwhelming numbers to win.

In the wake of her Pennsylvania win, Clinton’s campaign claimed they had raised an impressive $10 million in just the next 24 hours. That - and probably more - has almost certainly been spent since then and a bare tonight’s near double-defeat is unlikely to fill the coffers again.

Democrats will be reading the results in the coming hours and days and, while there remain some troubling signs about Obama’s ability to win over white, blue-collar voters, it’s the hardening split between supporters of both candidates that may be most alarming. A third of Clinton voters in Indiana, and slightly more of them in North Carolina, told exit pollsters that they will support John McCain in general election over Obama should he win the nomination. Fewer of Obama voters said they would support McCain over Clinton but majorities of supporters for both candidates in both states said would be dissatisfied if the other won the nomination.

Those numbers have grown since Pennsylvania and earlier contests when such troubling signs first began emerging. Early on in the campaign, polling showed wide enthusiasm for all the Democratic candidates. But the long and often combative campaign which have revolved around issues like race and gender, appear to have taken a toll, at least in the short term. Democratic superdelegates may be more interested in seeking a resolution sooner rather than later.

Both candidates sought to reach out to the other tonight in their speeches. Appearing at a rally in Indiana, Clinton acknowledged the passions on both sides but insisted, “I think that says a lot about how excited and passionate our supporters are and how intent so many Americans are to really taking their country back. But I can assure you, as I have said on many occasions that no matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party, because we must win in November.”

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Indiana Results
North Carolina Results
Indiana Exit Poll Data
North Carolina Exit Poll Data

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Speaking to supporters in North Carolina, Obama dismissed suggestions that the party will remain divided. “Yes, there have been bruised feelings on both sides,” Obama said. “Yes, each side desperately wants their candidate to win. But ultimately, this race is not about Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or John McCain. This election is about you - the American people.”

When those bruised feelings might begin to heal remains a question, however. Clinton needs less money to compete in upcoming contests like West Virginia and Kentucky. And she still has a battle to wage over the delegations and votes in Florida and Michigan, even if the inclusion of those states wouldn’t make up enough ground to do her any good.

Clinton will be spending most of the day tomorrow huddled with strategists and talking with superdelegates, according to her campaign. Many of those discussions may revolve as much around the when and how this race might end, not whether it should at all.

[abmitus]

Come on man. Get real. Its over. 2% is a tie. When will HRC announce that she is dropping out of the race. Its time.

[torch1000us1]

The Clinton camp will not quit, they will take it to the superdelegates in hopes of wooing them over. This is only going to hurt the Democrats, but I don''t think she cares. Never say quit no matter what happens seems to be her motto. I am sure she will help usher John McCain into the whitehouse when and if the time comes.

[trbundro1277]

Okay, so you want Obama to be the Democratic Nominee just so he can lose the general election in November because White blue collar voters WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA! I hate Juan Amnesty McCain more than anyone I know, but it is sad if Obama is our nominee. Will I vote for Obama in November over Juan Mccain, yes, but will most of my fellow white blue collar workers? NO!

[trbundro1277]

2 percent isn''t a tie!! If 2 percent is a tie, then Gore and Kerry would have been co-presidents that past 8 years. If anything, Indiana proves that Obama can''t carry the one voting block he needs... the white blue collar workers. He can''t win in November, Hillary CAN! This is coming from a strong Edwards supporter!

[pepperwood2]

The Clinton campaign was quick to point out that Obama had called Indiana a %u201Ctiebreaker%u201D contest and claimed a victory there gives them an edge in that argument.

It is amazing the power of recall the Clinton camp claims Obama made. But it took Hillary more that 12 years of insisting that she was a legend in her own mind concerning her heroics during the Battle of Bosnia. 35 years & 110,000,000 dollars later, it is time for them to go.

[vikki0007]

Can anybody tell me why Clinton think she won the Michigan primary. From what I heard on the radio today, (I live in Chicago, IL) from a Michigan caller. Clinton did not win Michigan she got 49% of the vote and 51% of the vote went to other. Does that mean Obama will get the 51% since he followed party rules and did not put his name on the ballot?

[mkbjon]

I am waiting to see just how many Democrats are going to defect to the Republican side if Obama gets the nomination. It''s funny that they HATE Bush, but hate Obama more. This will definitely hurt the party, and will give our new Republican president a shot at picking an eighth and ninth conservative Supreme Court Justice. I just hope they don''t complain when the new ALL CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court makes a ruling that comes back and bites them in their collectively spiteful gluteus maximi.

[harrydoghiny]

Concede Hillary, for the good of the party. If you do not, one can only arrive at the conclusion you are poisoning the well for Obama. Time to do the right thing, the people have spoken.

[dmcok]

It amazes me how so many Democrats think Obama has a chance of competing against McCain. The simple fact is: If Obama wins the nomination, it''s at least 4 more years of a Republican.

Someone stated that numbers don''t lie. Very true. So, count the numbers: How many of the states that Obama has won will ultimately go Democratic in the general election? None of the southern states like NC, SC, GA, AL, MS. None of the rural western states like ID, WY, UT. None of the rural central states like KS, IA, and MO. Where does this leave us?

Unlike the primaries where the delegates are split, the general election colors states as purely red or purely blue.

[nonayabiness]

McCain collects Social Security AND a military pension AND a $161k salary as a senator, and while he should be paid for his work, as rich as he is, he should not be draining the public pool of future financial security for the rest of us that need it. What does that tell you about him? Just check his webpage, its there. And, his wife won''t release her tax returns...

Hillary is just simply, obsolete.

Obama is the candidate with the best liklihood of understanding and taking action on behalf of us ''regular people'' you know, the ones who pay the vast majority of the taxes in this country?

[abbe91]

"Unlike the primaries where the delegates are split, the general election colors states as purely red or purely blue.
Posted by dmcOK at 03:30 AM : May 07, 2008"

The are the democratic primaries. The republican ones have "winner takes it all" states. That''s why they are over.

There is a flaw in your argument, though. It''s not because Clinton won against Obama in a state that Obama cannot win that state against McSame.

[bec67]

It''s Hillary or McCain for me. I will never vote Obama!

[abbe91]

"It''''s Hillary or McCain for me. I will never vote Obama!
Posted by Bec67 at 05:00 AM : May 07, 2008"

I guess that makes you a republican voter.

[gocubs58]

It''''s Hillary or McCain for me. I will never vote Obama!

Posted by Bec67 at 05:00 AM : May 07, 2008

That''s a great attitude Bec67. I am an Obama supporter and willing to support either Hillary or Obama in the general election. Electing John McCain is like re-electing George Bush. When the troops do not come home from Iraq we will have you and voters like you to thank.

[bgreen415]

I support Obama and can not tolerate Hillary Clinton. McCain has told us the type of people he will put on the Supreme Court if elected. While I would be madder than imaginable if the Nomination was taken from Obama, I would have no choice but to support and vote for Clinton and the Democratic Party in November.

[ike-3]

like I said earlier, hillary has enough supporters and math to keep her going but definitely not enough to overtake obama. This should be apparent to her and anybody close to her, she is running a lost battle.

The only thing she will continue to do is to cause more distractions for Obama and it is not fair for the party.

Yes, Hillary has tried but it is time to call it quit. I understand how frustrating it could be when you were the inevitable front runner 5 months ago and suddenly you are down in the woods, but that''s politics.

It''s time to call it a day and face McCain who is virtually on holiday

[mydogdylan6]

To say "I''ll vote for McCain now" is REALLY STUPID.

Why would someone shoot themselves in the head to cure a headache? Just to proove a point? That''s simply childish. I know HRC fans are upset they lost, but McCain has promised more right wing judges on the Supreme Ct, a prolonged war, a health care plan that will increase our costs, reduce or eliminate coverages, and only save corporations money.(Which obviously most of us will never see). All the other distractions are meaningless. We cannot afford another fouryears of GOP/Corporate rule.

[onceagirl]

I cannot for the life of me, understand why any American would want to vote for a man who has stated the policies that have brought our country to its knees, would be continued. I can only conclude that you are afraid of the truth and don''t wish to be set free!

[why_not_nar]

Couric "it feels like Groundhogss day". Katie, it sure does..you keep popping up with your inane comments...along with your poor grammer.

So you ''pop in'' to make another stupid remark and are gone. Do you ever offer a solution with your endless comments?

Can you actually imagine Walter Cronkite stating, "It feels like ground hogs day?".

If you had listened to Charlie Rose and company, their comments were that although imperfect, the American people are engaged in this campaign...and genuinely seek something better for the leadership of our country. However, Charlie is a journalist.

I would like to see someone more capable, devoid of your silly opinions, lead the CBS evening news organization.

I think it is time for you to move next to Howard Stern in Cirrus Radio. They will likely grant you a deal for 100 or 200 million, which would be a victory for everyone.

Good riddance Charlie Brown.

[crater7]

" HILLARY CLINTON WINS INDIANA"

THIS SHOULD BE THE HEADLINES, "NOT CLINTON BARELY HANGS ON."

THE FACT THAT SHE WON INDIANA, REFLECTS OBAMA''S WEAKNESS WITH WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS.

OF COURSE OBAMA, BLAMES IT ALL ON RUSH. MICHELLE IS CLAIMING THEY RAISED THE BAR AGAIN.

CLINTON IS STILL THE DEMOCRATS BEST CHOICE. OBAMA AND HIS "BITTER" WIFE MICHELLE, WILL NOT WIN IN NOVEMBER.

GOT "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D" AMERICA.

[txgrouch2004]

CBS is FINALLY telling it like it is - Hillary''s campaign ALMOST became a bug on a windshield last night, but it just grazed the top of the roof instead.

Hillary BARELY CLINGS TO SURVIVAL with a mere 2% margin in IN.

MEANWHILE, BACK IN NC, OBAMA STOMPS HILLARY WITH A DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD. HE NEEDS ONLY 181 MORE DELEGATES TO WIN, most of which he will get TODAY when superdelegates start turning against the Evil Queen.

GIVE UP, HILLARY, YOU CAN''T WIN. IT''S OVER.

HILLARY IS FINISHED. THE LONGER SHE DRAGS ON, the easier she is making it for McCain in November.

[txgrouch2004]

BTW, McCain''s best strategy is to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT and JUST SMILE FOR THE CAMERA.

Hillary will HAND THE WIN TO HIM unless he BLOWS IT. Long-time Texans remember how Clayton Williams handed an easy win to Anne Richards by opening his mouth and making a fool of himself in public.

Yes, an easy winner CAN snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. MCCAIN, PLEASE KEEP QUIET and let Hillary do the losing for the Democrats.

[mydogdylan6]

Listen to how BITTER HRC supporters are today. They still CLING to their losing candidate as if she can win. HILLARY CAN''T WIN NOW. And, YES, she IS trying to change the rules of the game to find a way to the White House. And a meager 1.8% win in Indiana after weeks of Obama bashing shows that she is a weaker candidate. (She can''t even beat an "inexperienced" senator after being First Lady and a Senator with huge political machine?)

Quit trying to blame Barack for Hillary''s losses. The MAJORITY of democrats want him and voted for him. It''s called democracy.

I''m sure the Patriots wanted the rules changed at the end of the Superbowl, but it doesn''t work that way. There are rules for a reason and most adults understand that. HILLARY AGREED TO THE RULES AND NOW WANTS THEM CHANGED FOR HER.

If Hillary REALLY cared about this country, if she cared about the hard working Americans she claims to represent, she''s quit asking people to send money and use her OWN MILLIONS to fund this folly. She LENDS her campaign money while she asks struggling Americans to GIVE their hard earned money to her.

If she continues, it just reinforces that it''s her own insatiable LUST for power she cares about, not middle class America.

We''ve wasted months and millions of dollars that should have gone to fighting McCain. Sorry folks, Rocky lost.

David "Hussein" Alexander

[abbe91]

" HILLARY CLINTON WINS INDIANA"
THE FACT THAT SHE WON INDIANA, REFLECTS OBAMA''''S WEAKNESS WITH WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS.
Posted by crater7 at 06:54 AM : May 07, 2008

She can win the next primaries by the same narrow 2% margin and it''s more than fine for Obama.
Do we need caps lock to convince you ?

[mydogdylan6]

Hillary begged for your money last night. Guess that''s why she wanted the gas tax break...so you could give it to her. Sure, she REALLY cares about you.

[mydogdylan6]

Do we need caps lock to convince you?

That''s pretty funny.

[mcvet]

BTW, McCain''''s best strategy is to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT and JUST SMILE FOR THE CAMERA.

Hillary will HAND THE WIN TO HIM unless he BLOWS IT. Long-time Texans remember how Clayton Williams handed an easy win to Anne Richards by opening his mouth and making a fool of himself in public.

Yes, an easy winner CAN snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. MCCAIN, PLEASE KEEP QUIET and let Hillary do the losing for the Democrats.



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Posted by txgrouch2004 at 07:08 AM : May 07, 2008
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LOL Oh I don''t think you have to worry about McSame! He''s going to HAVE to open his mouth and he''s going to HAVE to defend a record that has him bouncing around like a ping pong ball. It''s a long time until November and the Problems we face as a nation MUCH to great. Sieg Heil Bush

[mcvet]

On a side note: Concerning the May 6th primaries

it''''s interesting that the Southern state went for the black person,
while the Northern state went for the white person

Where is Seven-Pesos now ????????


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Posted by mocaIeo at 07:02 AM : May 07, 2008
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LOL Well the SOUTHERN STATE you refer to has MANY MANY more people of color! LOL There was also a heavy turn out of young college types. Don''t let anyone fool you... the OLD UNEDUCATED crackers are still alive and well. This election will bring them out in all their ugliness! Sieg Heil Bush

[popstom1]

Crackers ok spoonbill

[craigh9]

It is over. Hillary said what she had to last night in order to give herslef and her campaign a chance to truly digest what happened last night. Now her focus will be how to get out with some shred of dignity - but she will no longer be beating on Obama, only sharing her ideas. How ironic that after the overwhelmingly negative campaign she ran, she will now present a positive front - but only because she has been defeated.

[popstom1]

you think Clinton was bad the republican''s have not
started

[pepperwood2]

I like others thought Hillary had what it takes. She didn''t let us down. She took the low road of bitterly attacking & bashing Obama & Rev Wright and close to a $500,000,000 dollars of contributions and still counting.

Bill, Chelsae, Rendell & the Campaign Committee really won. They got paid up front. Millionaires many times over.

After all she is still there for us. That is, for all the Fund Raisers. 35 years experience has PAID off for the Clintons. ITS ALL ABOUT ME. Wheeeeeee this is FUND time. I''m just warming up. Soooooo Sad what the Clintons & the Old Guard Demos have done to the Democratic Party & its not over yet.

[popstom1]

obama out spent Clinton 3 to 1 in his back yard
and she won small but she won

[popstom1]

you can bet that there in lake county takeing a good
look at the ballot''s right now

[k_c_waters]

Hillary is better than her campaign, her hopes of for the White House is dashed! All you Clinton supporters...All ABOARD THE OBAMA TRAIN IS LEAVING FOR WASHINGTON!! YES WE DID, YES WE CAN!!

Hillary is now trying to save face, her only option is to try and seat MI & FL, well I am in FL and it amazes us down here how she tries to fault Obama for our states action, hell we didn''t even know who Obama was till the primaries started. So if you don''t reside in MI & FL, leave your comments out regarding it cause you refuse to acknowledge the facts! From Tampa, FL


Obama 08''

[rowdytexan2]

lol, They''ve already forgotten that she just beat the pants off in Pennsylvania, and every other big state in the Union, and is still ahead in the popular vote.

And as soon as she goes to convention and gets her Fla. and Michigan support, Obama will be toast.

[txgrouch2004]

Now that the cheering is finished in the Obama camp, and the delusional Hillary camp is in a coma (they STILL think she''s winning - INCREDIBLE!), it''s time to sit back and study what happened.

Looking at the NC results, Hillary got 39% of the overall vote - but 65% OF THE WHITE WOMAN VOTE. Almost 30% more than the overall vote, and REVERSE from the overall vote. ANY SEXISM THERE?

Looking at all NC women - 65% voted for Hillary, but 92% voted for Obama. That''s MORE than the overall vote by over 30%. ANY RACISM THERE?

Civil libertarians will have A LOT of work to do in the aftermath of this election. When it is so BLATANTLY and GLARINGLY obvious that the vast majority of women voted along gender and race lines, clearly there is still much work to be done.

WOMEN especially will have A LOT of re-evaluating to do of their attitudes about gender and race.

[crater7]

POSTED BY OBAMA SUPPORTERS:

Crackers ok spoonbill;

it''s interesting that the Southern state went for the black person, while the Northen state went for the white person:


THESE STATEMENTS BY OBAMA SUPPORTERS, ILLUSTRATE THE TRUE RACIST UNDERTONE OF THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN. MICHELLE, CLAIMS THAT EVERYTIME OBAMA LOOSES OR THE MEDIA, RAISES ISSUES ABOUT OBAMA, SHE SAY''S " THEY KEEP RAISING THE BAR." SHE IS A VERY "BITTER" WIFE OF A POSSIBLE PRESIDENT.

OBAMA CONTINUES TO PULL AROUND 90% OF THE BLACK VOTE. BUT, CAN''T ATTRACK THE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS. THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS PAINT THE WORKING CLASS, AS UNEDUCATED, RACIST, RELIGIOUS FANATICAL, GUN WAVING "DUMMY''S", AND THEIR VOTES ARE A NON ISSUE. THIS REFLECTS THE ELITIST, OUT OF TOUCH ATTITUDE OF THE OBAMA''S.

IF OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, THESE ISSUES WILL NOT SIT WELL WITH THE AMERICAN VOTER.

GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D" AMERICA.

[mudrose-2009]

The polls show that Effendi Snob-oma pools well with blacks and the latte crowd. This is not the general population and Clinton can still make her case. He is not a mainstream candidate nor is he properly vetted to the American public where his record is up front and in clear view. He will have problems all the way into the election. For now, you go girl!

[mudrose-2009]

Er, the word should have been polls, not pools.

[abbe91]

"I and many others refuse to get on that corrupt Obama train.
Posted by mnmaid at 08:40 AM : May 07, 2008"

Art least, he is not going to tell you what you want to hear to get your votes, unlike

April 19, 2000
Web posted at: 6:10 p.m. EDT (2210 GMT)

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- Former GOP presidential candidate John McCain called for the removal of the Confederate battle flag from atop the South Carolina Statehouse on Wednesday, acknowledging that his refusal to take such a stance during his primary battle for the Palmetto State was a "sacrifice of principle for personal ambition."

http://archives.cnn.com/20
00/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/19/mccain.sc/

[katzooks]

If not for Rush Limbaugh''s "Operation Chaos" voters in Indiana''s Democratic primary, Obama would have won by approx. 2% of the voters. Possibly more, when you factor in the disenfranchised college students, blacks and retired nuns, who were barred from voting because they lacked government issue photo IDs. Add to this the number of Indiana voters who turned away from Obama last-minute yesterday, after receiving receiving calls from the Republican-based abortion scare-mongering robocall campaign.

Fact is, Obama has been running against both Hillary and at least some of the Republican party all along. One thing to consider, regarding those polls on Clinton supporters who would vote for McCain in the fall: there are at least 4% of Republicans, possibly even more, who have voted for Hillary in the primaries, specifically to weaken the Democratic party. Hence the large numbers of rural, gun-toting whites who "heard" Hillary''s message, but would never support Obama in the fall.

The fact that Obama holds a commanding lead, despite these many odds, is testimony to Democracy (the people''s voices) prevailing over corruption. Today is, indeed, a hopeful day in America!

[txgrouch2004]

RowdyTexas2 complained:
If Hillary loses, what will happen to all the money I have been contributing to her campaign every month?
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There seems to be a lot of whining in the Rowdy house this morning. Hmm, wonder why.

As for your money - it was WELL SPENT hiring Rev. Wright to backstab Obama. It was WELL SPENT buying the votes of the 65% of white women in NC who voted IN REVERSE to the overall result.

WELL SPENT??? You be the judge.

[mudrose-2009]

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- Former GOP presidential candidate John McCain called for the removal of the Confederate battle flag from atop the South Carolina Statehouse on Wednesday, acknowledging that his refusal to take such a stance during his primary battle for the Palmetto State was a "sacrifice of principle for personal ambition."

http://archives.cnn.com/20

00/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/19/mccain.sc
/
Posted by abbe91

Yeah just like Effendi Snob-oma defending his Rev. Wright.

[joelbuckley2]

Nah-nah-nah,
Nah-nah-nah,
Hey-hey-hey,
Good-bye, Hilary!

[txgrouch2004]

Obama was heard singing:
What''d she do?
She smiled in my face,
All the time she tried to take my place!
The BACK STABBER! (BA-ACK STABBER)
What did I do to get on the right track?
How did I take all those KNIVES out my back?
HOW''D SHE DO? THE BACK STABBER? (BA-ACK STABBER)

I like how that song ended.

[riptide213]

Barack Obama is dynamic and simply has an unbeatable euphoria factor which is to exciting and uplifting to ignore. We need change. We need it now.

%u201CThe Obamainator%u201D is back and has a message for the future. Change now or stagnate.

America was forged from the energy and inspiration of change from status quo of the day.

People do not want elected reruns or rehashed modus operandi zapping our tax money, again. Yesterdays political Ground Hog Day perpetrators need to call it a day.

Change is in the air! The people are ready to speak with their hopes and votes.

Exercise your rights, get out and vote, be a citizen worth defending. If you dont use your protected right to vote; then dont ever complain about who gets into public office.

Voters dont just want to write a new chapter in the same old political saga they are keen to throw out the entire pungent book.

Get excited about being a voter in the 21st Century, you can make a difference:

Mover and Shaker Needed. 4 Year Contract.

House and transportation provided.

New talents please apply.

New methods preferable, but actions MUST speak louder than words.

Innovative everything wanted for a new fangled, bold leap forward.

Hire Date: 4 Nov 08 Start Date: 21 Jan 09

[tonyd_31]

Rush Limbaugh is a brain-dead idiot. If he hadn''t convinced his brainwashed zombies to skew the results in Indiana last night, Obama would have won both States and we could unite the party is get started with the important business of running the Neo-Cons to Canada (who probably wouldn''t have them anyway). Way to go you brainwashed jellyfish. Just a matter of time though.

[omaar-101]

Total Delegate Count


Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch

OBAMA 1,844

CLINTON 1,688

EDWARDS 18

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch

MCCAIN 1,328

HUCKABEE 231
ROMNEY 149

CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates.



Hillary Clinton a few Weeks Ago acted as though her 2 Months Predicted (PA) Win was a ComeBack, when it wasnt !!


Hillary was slated 2 Months ago to win (PA) by 20 Points...She didnt, She won by 9.6 Points...

Noone Ever talks about obama making Major Inroads in (PA) despite all the Controversy...She won by 9.6 Points, Oppose to the Months Predicted 20 Point Win !!


Obama was Suppose to Win Big in (NC) and he Delivered a He!! of a Blow to his Naysayers,foremost Hillary Clinton, 17 County Traveling Man Bill Clinton, with his Over Done Southern Accent, FAILED & NC College Camp To NC College Camp Traveling Daughter, Chelsea Clinton...Their Scare TACTICS, Race BAITING & Fear MONGERING, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan Scare TACTICS IN (NC) ...FAILED BIG TIME!!

CNN 9AM: INDIANA ARE STILL COUNTING ALL THOSE ABSENT TEE BALLOTS...I SAID STILL COUNTING ANSENTEE BALLOTS.

[txgrouch2004]

Tonyd_31 blasted:
Rush Limbaugh is a brain-dead idiot.
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He''s the Michael Moore of the right wing.

Except even Michael Moore saw Hillary for what she is.

Well, in his view he saw her as THE LOSER, and he aligned himself with the evident WINNER for his own future gains. But his EXCUSES sounded nice...