Non-Democrats Influenced Ind., N.C. Vote

CBSNews.com Analysis: Much Of Apparent Division In Dem Primary Battle Can Be Attributed To Independents And Republicans

(CBS)  This analysis was written by CBS News political consultant Monika McDermott.

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Sen. Barack Obama sailed to an easy victory in North Carolina, while Sen. Hillary Clinton edged him out in Indiana. National exit polls conducted for CBS News by Edison / Mitofsky. Research show that each candidate retained the bases they have held throughout the primary season, with state characteristics making most of the difference.

The most intriguing story about the Democratic primaries in Indiana and North Carolina, however, is actually about non-Democrats - Independents and Republicans. While self-identified Democratic voters continue to express support for both candidates as the nominee, and overwhelmingly support each in the general election, the story changes among others who showed up to vote today.

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Indiana Results
North Carolina Results
Indiana Exit Poll Data
North Carolina Exit Poll Data

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While much has been made about polarization within the Democratic party, as evidenced by the primary electorate, much of the apparent division can be attributed to voters who do not actually consider themselves Democrats.

Independents

Obama's ability to attract and motivate independent voters has been evident throughout the primary season. Indiana was no exception. In the state's open primary, 23 percent of those voting in the Democratic primary were self-identified independents, and 25 percent were voting in a presidential primary for the first time. Obama won the overall independent vote 53 percent to 47 percent.

In North Carolina the story was different in terms of the vote choice. Clinton won independent voters in North Carolina by four points - 50 percent to 45 percent. These independents, who made up 19 percent of the primary electorate, were more conservative than those turning out in Indiana, 26 percent conservative to 18 percent respectively, potentially accounting for the difference in the results.

The good news for Obama among North Carolina's independent voters, however, is that he may be better able to hold their votes in the general election than is Clinton. Only eight percent of Obama supporters in North Carolina said they plan to vote for Sen. John McCain if Obama wins the nomination. In contrast, 26 percent of Clinton's independents voters would defect to McCain even if she were the nominee.

Despite the difference in the vote tallies between the two states, independent voters in Indiana and North Carolina had many similarities. Both made up substantial portions of each primary electorate, one-fifth in North Carolina and nearly one-quarter in Indiana. Yet, despite their choice to join the voting in their state's Democratic primary, sizable numbers said they plan to vote for McCain in the general election, especially those who support the candidate not in the match-up. They are also much more likely to be dissatisfied with one or the other candidate as the party nominee than are self-described Democrats.

In North Carolina, nearly one third of independents (32 percent) intend to vote for McCain in the general election if Clinton is the Democratic nominee. Similarly, 28 percent of independents would support McCain against Obama. In contrast, only six percent and 12 percent of Democrats would defect to McCain against each Democrat respectively. In Indiana the numbers are somewhat smaller, but still substantial - one-fourth would vote for McCain against Clinton, and one-fifth would do so against Obama. Democratic defections would be, as in North Carolina, six percent and 12 percent respectively.

Much of these results stem from deep divisions in independents' willingness to support the opposing Democratic primary candidate in the general election, again demonstrating the polarization many have attributed to Democrats. Among Clinton's independent supporters in North Carolina, 44 percent would vote for McCain over Obama, and among Obama's independents, 35 percent would defect in the general election if Clinton were nominated.

Independents are also much more likely than Democrats to express dissatisfaction about either candidate as the eventual nominee. In North Carolina, 40 percent and 38 percent of independents would be dissatisfied with Clinton or Obama, respectively, as the nominee. In Indiana the proportions were 36 percent and 32 percent. Democrats themselves are less divided. For example, in North Carolina 33 percent of Democrats would be dissatisfied with a Clinton nomination and 25 percent with an Obama one - 18 points and 14 points less than independent voters.

Republicans

If independents demonstrate divisions among the Democratic candidates' supporters, Republicans demonstrate yawning chasms. Few of the self-described Republicans who turned out to vote in the Democratic primaries in North Carolina and Indiana seem to actually support the candidate for whom they voted. Perhaps most intriguingly, however, is an apparent effort by Republicans to promote Clinton's candidacy when they feel Obama is the better nominee.

In each state Clinton carried the vote of Republican voters - 52 to 44 percent for Obama in Indiana, and 61 to 32 percent in North Carolina. Republicans made up only 5 percent in North Carolina's Democratic primary electorate, but made up 11 percent of the vote in the Indiana Democratic primary, enough to provide Clinton's expected margin of victory.

While taking the time to turn out and vote in the Democratic primaries, Republican voters in both states have plans to vote for McCain in November. In North Carolina, 74 percent and 76 percent of Republicans said they would vote for McCain if Clinton or Obama, respectively, were the nominee. In Indiana, 66 percent would vote for McCain against Clinton, and 61 percent would vote McCain if Obama's the nominee.

The exit polls reveal striking evidence of strategic voting by Republicans in both primaries, voting for the candidate they find least likely to win. Even though a majority of Republicans in each state voted for Clinton, they give Obama the better chance in November. In Indiana where 52 percent of Republicans supported Clinton, only 37 percent think she is more likely than Obama to win in November. In North Carolina the results were similar - while 61 percent of Republicans voted for Clinton, only 48 percent think she is the better general election candidate.

Finally, these voters are participated in a primary in which majorities would be satisfied with neither candidate. In North Carolina's Democratic primary, 60 percent of Republican voters said they would be dissatisfied with an Obama nomination, and 53 percent would be dissatisfied with Clinton as the nominee. In Indiana, 51 percent would be dissatisfied with Obama as the party's nominee, and 56 percent would feel the same about Clinton should she win.

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Monika L. McDermott is assistant professor of political science at the University of Connecticut, where she teaches and conducts research on voting behavior and public opinion. Before joining the University of Connecticut, McDermott worked in election polling for CBS News and the Los Angeles Times. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from the University of California, Los Angeles.

The National Election Pool Exit Poll was conducted by Edison/Mitofsky. The North Carolina poll included 2,241 voters. The Indiana poll included 1,660 voters interviewed as they left the polls. The margin of error for each survey is two points.

[sjbj2322]

What a ridiculous statement that it was because of Rush Limbaugh that Obama didn''t carry Indiana. Did it ever occur to anyone that Indiana is particularly close to Illinois and just perhaps the voters there are more avidly aware of Obama''s affiliation with the Chicago political machine as well as all his cohorts. The truth of why Obama carried North Carolina is simply because of the higher percentage of black voters. Never has it been so stupidly assumed that there is a correlation between a man''s character and the color of his skin except by black voters whose vote is solely based on that factor above all else. Just look at the exit polls.

[samthetvcat]

---"In each state Clinton carried the vote of Republican voters - 52 to 44 percent for Obama in Indiana, and 61 to 32 percent in North Carolina. Republicans made up only 5 percent in North Carolina''s Democratic primary electorate, but made up 11 percent of the vote in the Indiana Democratic primary, enough to provide Clinton''s expected margin of victory."---

HA HA HA A couple of days ago Bob Schieffer was calling those of us who were tossing this totally speculative ''explanation'' out as a hedge conspiracy nuts - who knew the speculation would actually be backed up with hard data :o

Anyway, so like after tonight it''s basically all about the superdelegates? And Florida and Michigan? And doesn''t calling for Florida and Michigan to be counted now like work against her?

Like if Barack only needs something like 200 more delegates, and is expected to get something like 60 from the remaining state primaries, then if he accepts the Florida vote as-is it gives him 60 delegates just like that. If he can get Hillary to give him the ''uncommitteds'' in Michigan that gives him 50 more. So wouldn''t he just need around 30 more super-delegates to reach 2025 by June?

So if Hillary decides to drag this out, is she now going to reverse gears and start dragging out Michigan and Florida?

[undermyboot]

Operation Chao''''s was in full effect. If it wasn''''t for Rush Limbaugh, Obama would of carried Indiana and this race would be over. The man is a strategic genius

Posted by jedi0808 at 01:53 AM : May 07, 2008
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Exactly what the exit poll analysis numbers show.

Clinton will continue to the bitter end (of the Dems Presidential chances) with the help and wet kiss of Rush Republicons. ROFLMAO

[samthetvcat]

You know what I wonder . . . like what''s Hillary''s ''plan B''? A normal person wouldn''t put all their eggs in one basket - like Al Gore got robbed in 2000 and he just let his interests be his guide. The Clinton''s aren''t really like that, are they?

Like anybody else worry she''s not really going to be okay with accepting defeat and that maybe she''s not going to be able to stop? Might she try to weasel her way onto the ticket, given that Democrats really aren''t going to let her destroy Barack and still be cool with her coming back for a second shot in 2012?

Like is she REALLY going to be cool with going back to where she was in the Senate? If not, what can we expect from her after this? I''m slightly scared :o

[samthetvcat]

Oh wait, I guess if FL and MI get counted the ''magic number'' becomes 2209 instead of 2025 (?)

Sigh, you think Hillary''s ''backroom'' focus might now become to convince superdelegates to hold off their endorsements until August? You think she could get much traction with that?

Also, you think she''d ever drop out before she recouped the $$$ she lent her own campaign? She doesn''t seem like the type of person who would - of course if the operation is running in the red, maybe the longer she stays in the more debt she accrues?

[rudy654-2009]

Operation Chao''''s was in full effect. If it wasn''''t for Rush Limbaugh, Obama would of carried Indiana and this race would be over. The man is a strategic genius


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Posted by jedi0808 at 01:53 AM

Fat azz Limbaugh is a joke and this followers a bunch of she goats in heat. This joker will eventually have his day in court just as soon as their is a justice department willing to shut down his abuse of the public airwaves.

[rudy654-2009]

I think Limbaugh and his worshipers have shown everyone just what a bunch white trash they really are.

[abbe91]

"What a ridiculous statement that it was because of Rush Limbaugh that Obama didn''''t carry Indiana. Did it ever occur to anyone that Indiana is particularly close to Illinois and just perhaps the voters there are more avidly aware of Obama''''s affiliation with the Chicago political machine as well as all his cohorts. The truth of why Obama carried North Carolina is simply because of the higher percentage of black voters. Never has it been so stupidly assumed that there is a correlation between a man''''s character and the color of his skin except by black voters whose vote is solely based on that factor above all else. Just look at the exit polls.

Posted by sjbj2322 at 02:13 AM : May 07, 2008"

Yes look at the exit polls and how the republicans voted in the primary. Or, do you think that they favor Clinton, because after rejecting HR 2831 (Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act), she could be paid less as a president than the other candidates ?

[darrren12000]

Actually, if they are following Rush, they are not doing it to pick the "weakest" candidate, they are just trying to prolong the nominating process. Rush said he thinks Obama will win, but he wants it to last forever to keep the party divided. It''s wicked, but it makes sense. Republicans are wicked, but strategic. Dems would never do this.

[abbe91]

"In the mean time, what was the last thing Whatshisname, the Republican, said?

Posted by Nancy_Naive at 06:26 AM : May 07, 2008"

That the reason for the Iraq war was oil (oops).

I agree about the PR

[bobnjersey]

[Operation Chao''''s was in full effect. If it wasn''''t for Rush Limbaugh, Obama would of carried Indiana and this race would be over. The man is a strategic genius]
[Posted by jedi0808 at 01:53 AM : May 07, 2008]

so is a cancer cell if you look at from it''s ability to wreak havoc, pain, misery and destruction.

[popstom1]

Now the math 156 95% black voted black now it''s a race race

[popstom1]

out of 14 million less then 3 million voted I
guess that 11 million did not think it was worth it

[interobserv]

Interesting that Republicans are voting in the Democratic primary. It looks like they beleive the only way they can win is if Sen. Clinton is the nominee. That way, they and the rest of the nazi-neocon right can continue to demonize and villify her and not appear to be racist. As they would if they tried that stuff on Sen. Obama.
To my Republican friends - keep trying. The American public have wised-up to you!

[abbe91]

"out of 14 million less then 3 million voted I
guess that 11 million did not think it was worth it

Posted by popstom1 at 07:19 AM : May 07, 2008"

Engage brain first. This is a huge turnout for primaries.

[mcvet]

These people who are doing this are just Nazi''s who have no other way of making an inpact or influencing things. The FAILURE produced in the last 8 years has left them acting like spoiled children... It will make no difference in the end though. Never has, never will. Sieg Heil Bush

[mcvet]

out of 14 million less then 3 million voted I
guess that 11 million did not think it was worth it


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Posted by popstom1 at 07:19 AM : May 07, 2008
+ report abuse

Interesting spin on the FACT that MORE people have voted in this primary and MORE new voters have signed up as Democrats than at any other time in our history. Guess you "Ditto Heads" need to get a refresher course in hate though. The people in Denver are extremely upset with them right now...wishing for riots and bloodshed in their city!! ROFLMAO Can you say it... let the fuhrer hear ya now!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!!

[popstom1]

it''s you calling for blood

[lindaredtail]

I had read something similar to this last night about crossover voters especially Republicans. Seems that they have pretty much admitted they think they can beat Hillary easier than Obama. They are scewing the polling data. It seems the right questions are finally being asked. Rush is one of those who was promoting this.

[popstom1]

well now I agree that Obamanite''s beat Hillary bad
NC. and she won small in the republican state of Id.
maybe Obama can now find Gov. Devel Patrick''s $5000
and just what was The teamsters deal with the chicago
politician Obama

[lindaredtail]

It is no longer though a race contest. Obama drew a sizeable white vote yesterday which is good.

[lindaredtail]

Andrea Mitchell who is traveling with her said that Hillary is going to stay in for West Virginia and Kentucky. But that it really is over. I think that Obama should let her get out gracefully if possible and if she won''t then let the superdelegates pressure her to go.

[popstom1]

She not like the chicago politician that obama
knocked off the ballot she''s a fighter she''ll
stand till the end

[pepperwood2]

I like others thought Hillary had what it takes. She didn''t let us down. She took the low road of bitterly attacking & bashing Obama & Rev Wright and close to a $500,000,000 dollars of contributions and still counting.

Bill, Chelsae, Rendell & the Campaign Committee really won. They got paid up front. Millionaires many times over.

After all she is still there for us. That is, for all the Fund Raisers. 35 years experience has PAID off for the Clintons. ITS ALL ABOUT ME. Wheeeeeee this is FUND time. I''m just warming up. Soooooo Sad what the Clintons & the Old Guard Demos have done to the Democratic Party & its not over yet.

[idnnsg]

"Perhaps most intriguingly, however, is an apparent effort by Republicans to promote Clinton''s candidacy when they feel Obama is the better nominee."

They can''t get their own candidate, mad-man McCain, elected honestly, so they prop up Hillary to drag out her mud-slinging as long as possible. Repugs are evil, pure and simple!

[abbe91]

"I had read something similar to this last night about crossover voters especially Republicans. Seems that they have pretty much admitted they think they can beat Hillary easier than Obama. They are scewing the polling data. It seems the right questions are finally being asked. Rush is one of those who was promoting this.

Posted by lindaredtail at 07:59 AM : May 07, 2008"

That''s certainly part of it, but still ... 52-44 percent for Clinton in Indiana, and 61-32 in NC.
What about these 44% and 32% for Obama ? They cannot agree on who''s the "best" opponent for McCain ?

The information we lack is the correlation (or absence of it) between republicans voting for Clinton/Obama and their (supposed) vote in the GE.

[broncfan1661]

The Blacks voting 90+% for the black guy was the difference. Plain & simple.

[ajaxtheleast]

We tolerate rush like we tolerate all

southern sour grapes.

We are gracious in victory.

[rowdytexan2]

What a load of ***! They can analyze it till the cows come home. Hillary still has the popular vote, has won more big states than Obama, and in fact has won the election except for the black vote, which means they don''t care who''s in the White House as long as it''s the black man.

[grumpas]

Regardless of which one wins the nomination I will vote for them! I will not be a traitor to my country by voting Republican. Even if by some miracle I have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary.

[txgrouch2004]

RowdyTexan2 whined:
they don''''t care who''''s in the White House as long as it''''s the black man.
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But - their votes STILL COUNT, right?

Just like the votes of the 65% of white women in NC who voted for Hillary, REVERSE OF THE OVERALL COUNT. Any SEXISM there? Why not dismiss THOSE VOTES, too???

A little DOUBLE STANDARD problem this morning, Rowdy?
HMMMMMM???

[blazercoach1]

txgrouch, it''s even greater than 65% if you look specifically at white women 60+ yrs old. Your point is right on. But trust me....you''re talking to a brick wall. Some folks are more interested in making an argument than being sensible.

Point is, ALL candidates have their core demographics that vote for them. It''s NEVER one-sided. Do Republicans complain that most minorities vote against them? Do Democrats complain that they have typically failed to get the religious vote? NO...they simply try to do a better job of understanding and appealing to those constituencies.

Unfortunately, you can always count a few ignorant folks to complain about it as a one-sided problem.....

[tonyd_31]

All the Neo-cons out there, I hope you don''t choke when you have to say President Obama even though we have choked on saying President Bush for the last 8 years. But no worry, he will be a much better president and will be a president for all the people

[riptide213]

Barack Obama is dynamic and simply has an unbeatable euphoria factor which is to exciting and uplifting to ignore. We need change. We need it now.

%u201CThe Obamainator%u201D is back and has a message for the future. Change now or stagnate.

America was forged from the energy and inspiration of change from status quo of the day.

People do not want elected reruns or rehashed modus operandi zapping our tax money, again. Yesterdays political Ground Hog Day perpetrators need to call it a day.

Change is in the air! The people are ready to speak with their hopes and votes.

Exercise your rights, get out and vote, be a citizen worth defending. If you dont use your protected right to vote; then dont ever complain about who gets into public office.

Voters dont just want to write a new chapter in the same old political saga they are keen to throw out the entire pungent book.

Get excited about being a voter in the 21st Century, you can make a difference:

Mover and Shaker Needed. 4 Year Contract.

House and transportation provided.

New talents please apply.

New methods preferable, but actions MUST speak louder than words.

Innovative everything wanted for a new fangled, bold leap forward.

Hire Date: 4 Nov 08 Start Date: 21 Jan 09

[omaar-101]

Total Delegate Count


Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch

OBAMA 1,844

CLINTON 1,688

EDWARDS 18

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch

MCCAIN 1,328

HUCKABEE 231
ROMNEY 149

CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates.



Hillary Clinton a few Weeks Ago acted as though her 2 Months Predicted (PA) Win was a ComeBack, when it wasnt !!


Hillary was slated 2 Months ago to win (PA) by 20 Points...She didnt, She won by 9.6 Points...

Noone Ever talks about obama making Major Inroads in (PA) despite all the Controversy...She won by 9.6 Points, Oppose to the Months Predicted 20 Point Win !!


Obama was Suppose to Win Big in (NC) and he Delivered a He!! of a Blow to his Naysayers,foremost Hillary Clinton, 17 County Traveling Man Bill Clinton, with his Over Done Southern Accent, FAILED & NC College Camp To NC College Camp Traveling Daughter, Chelsea Clinton...Their Scare TACTICS, Race BAITING & Fear MONGERING, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan Scare TACTICS IN (NC) ...FAILED BIG TIME!!

CNN 9AM: INDIANA ARE STILL COUNTING ALL THOSE ABSENT TEE BALLOTS...I SAID STILL COUNTING ANSENTEE BALLOTS.

[omaar-101]

eatmochickn: YOUR WHITE PRESIDENTS HAVE DONE A GRAND JOB OF HELPING THEMSELVES AND HURTING THEIR CITIZENS AND YOUR RACIST, SCARED OF A BIRACIAL MAN, AS PRESIDENT IS LAUGHABLE...

YOU MUST BE THE MADDEST & SADDEST, RACIST WHITE PERSON ON THE PLANET, OTHERTHAN THE CLINTONS THEMSELVES, AFTER LAST NIGHTS EVENTS !!!

12% OF OF THE POPULATION IS GOING TO ''RISE UP AND DO WHAT TO WHOM''


YOUVE YET TO CLARIFY WHAT THE ''BI-RACIAL PRESIDENT, THATS WHITE & BLACK PRESIDENT, IS GOING TO DO TO THE MAJORITY POPULATED...WHITE SOCIETY...PLEASE ELABORATE AS TO WHAT THIS ''RISING UP FEAR THEORY'' OF YOURS WILL PRODUCE.


MORE WHITES IN THE MILITARY, POLICE DEPT, CITY, COUNTY AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. CONGRESS, SENATE, CITY, FEDERAL, COUNTY JUDGES TOO....

YOU JOHNNY REB, NAZI, KKK & ARYAN MORONS...

ARE THE LOWEST LIFE FORMS ON THE PLANET.

YOUR RACE RAVINGS & RACE RANTINGS ARE DEPLORABLE AS WELL AS YOUR BAD MATH !!

[omaar-101]

Total Delegate Count


Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch

OBAMA 1,844

CLINTON 1,688

EDWARDS 18

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch

MCCAIN 1,328

HUCKABEE 231
ROMNEY 149

CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates.



Hillary Clinton a few Weeks Ago acted as though her 2 Months Predicted (PA) Win was a ComeBack, when it wasnt !!


Hillary was slated 2 Months ago to win (PA) by 20 Points...She didnt, She won by 9.6 Points...

Noone Ever talks about obama making Major Inroads in (PA) despite all the Controversy...She won by 9.6 Points, Oppose to the Months Predicted 20 Point Win !!


Obama was Suppose to Win Big in (NC) and he Delivered a He!! of a Blow to his Naysayers,foremost Hillary Clinton, 17 County Traveling Man Bill Clinton, with his Over Done Southern Accent, FAILED & NC College Camp To NC College Camp Traveling Daughter, Chelsea Clinton...Their Scare TACTICS, Race BAITING & Fear MONGERING, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan Scare TACTICS IN (NC) ...FAILED BIG TIME!!

CNN 9AM: INDIANA ARE STILL COUNTING ALL THOSE ABSENT TEE BALLOTS...I SAID STILL COUNTING ANSENTEE BALLOTS.

[omega39-2009]

Hillary Supporters and operation chaos operatives, I urge you to take that 18 cents gas tax holiday savings and send an 18 cent check to Hillary''s campaign. She is broke and can use the money.

[omaar-101]

OBAMA WHITE LINEAGE IS A LINEAGE OF LEADERS...

NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST & STRETCHES ACROSS THE SEAS.

OBAMAS BLOOD RELATIVES (PRESIDENTS) A CONFEDERATE GENERAL & A GREAT PRIME MINISTER.


1. PRESIDENT: JAMES MADISON

2. PRESIDENT: HARRY S. TRUMAN

3. PRESIDENT: LYNDON B. JOHNSON

4. PRESIDENT: GERALD FORD

5. PRESIDENT: G. BUSH SR. & G. BUSH JR. (11TH COUSIN)

6. V. PRESIDENT: D!CK CHENEY OBAMAS (8TH COUSIN)

7. PRIME MINISTER: WINSTON CHURCHILL

8. CIVIL WAR GENERAL: ROBERT E. LEE

NOTE: HES RELATED ROBERT E. LEE, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY OBAMA WINS SO BIG IN THE SOUTH...HUH

EATMO CHICKIN: I BET YOU WISHED YOU HAD SUCH A LINEAGE...

YOU MONGREL

[jockh]

BREAKING NEWS... on CNN....CLINTON LOANED ANOTHER $6.4 MILLION TO HER CAMPAIGN

She is broke !!

Quick Rowdy, you better increase those monthly donations to Hillary that you keep talking about.

But please remember Hillary will get ALL her money back because its a LOAN; you however will only have your memories and a smaller bank balance.

Hillary relies on suckers like you to GIVE your money, while she cleverly LOANS hers.

When this is over she will have a bath in 100 dollar bills because all her 110 million dollar fortune is still there ! But don%u2019t worry she will be thinking of you!

[libh8er]

They can''''t get their own candidate, mad-man McCain, elected honestly, so they prop up Hillary to drag out her mud-slinging as long as possible. Repugs are evil, pure and simple!
Posted by IDNNSG at 08:23 AM : May 07, 2008

You''re a sniveling little bedwetting whiner! I guess you don''t have any problems with Soros dumping millions in to trying to influence US elections. Or, for that matter, labor unions doing the same.

I gues it''s alright with you as long as it benefits semocraps. Right, you little pile of horse squeeze?

[omaar-101]

EATMO CHICKN: BLACK PRESIDENT WILL UNDERSTAND AND ALL BLACKS THAT DEPEND ON THE GOVERMENT WILL SEE HELP''

THERES MORE WHITES THAT NEED HIS HELP, WHO DEPEND HEAVILY ON GOVERMENT ASSITED PROGRAMS...A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 125 OF THE POPULATION...NAZI !!

YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE THAT WILL NEED HIS GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS THAN THE GROUP YOU HATE AND FROWN ON THE MOST....


THEIR ARE FAR MORE WHITE AMERICANS IN SHEER NUMBER, WHO ARE GENERATIONS DEPENDENT UPON WELFARE & FOOD STAMPS, THAN 12% OF THE POPULATION.


HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATES...HIGH MASSIVE HOME FORECLOSURES...THE 20 BILLION PRE MONTH IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN WARS, THE VERY DEVALUED DOLLAR BILL, LOWER NOW, THAN THE MEXICAN PESOS AND YOUR RACIST A$$, IS STUCK ON RACE STUPIDITY AND HATE, FEAR OF A BIRACIAL MAN AS PRESIDENT...


YOUR BELOVED WHITE MALE PRESIDENTS, APPRARENTLY DONT FEEL THE SAME WASY AS YOU DO, ABOUT THE CURRENT EVENTS AND NEITHER DO THEY CARE ABOUT YOUR HATE FILLED & HATEFUL A$$, WANTING ONLY A WHITE PERSON IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

[omaar-101]

EATMO CHICKN: BLACK PRESIDENT WILL UNDERSTAND AND ALL BLACKS THAT DEPEND ON THE GOVERMENT WILL SEE HELP''''

THERES MORE WHITES THAT NEED HIS HELP, WHO DEPEND HEAVILY ON GOVERMENT ASSITED PROGRAMS...A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 12% OF THE POPULATION...

NAZI ARYAN TROOPER!!

YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE THAT WILL NEED HIS GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS THAN THE GROUP YOU HATE AND FROWN ON THE MOST....


THEIR ARE FAR MORE WHITE AMERICANS IN SHEER NUMBER, WHO ARE GENERATIONS DEPENDENT UPON WELFARE & FOOD STAMPS, THAN 12% OF THE POPULATION.


HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATES...HIGH MASSIVE HOME FORECLOSURES...THE 20 BILLION PRE MONTH IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN WARS, THE VERY DEVALUED DOLLAR BILL, LOWER NOW, THAN THE MEXICAN PESOS AND YOUR RACIST A$$, IS STUCK ON RACE STUPIDITY AND HATE, FEAR OF A BIRACIAL MAN AS PRESIDENT...


YOUR BELOVED WHITE MALE PRESIDENTS, APPRARENTLY DONT FEEL THE SAME WASY AS YOU DO, ABOUT THE CURRENT EVENTS AND NEITHER DO THEY CARE ABOUT YOUR HATE FILLED & HATEFUL A$$, WANTING ONLY A WHITE PERSON IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

[omaar-101]

eatmochickn: YOUR WHITE MALE PRESIDENTS HAVE NOT HELPED THEIR WHITE CITIZENS, NAZI.. YOUR WHITE PRESIDENTS HAVE DONE A GRAND JOB OF HELPING THEMSELVES AND HURTING THEIR CITIZENS AND YOUR RACIST, SCARED OF A BIRACIAL MAN, AS PRESIDENT IS LAUGHABLE...

YOU MUST BE THE MADDEST & SADDEST, RACIST WHITE PERSON ON THE PLANET, OTHERTHAN THE CLINTONS THEMSELVES, AFTER LAST NIGHTS EVENTS !!!

12% OF OF THE POPULATION IS GOING TO ''''RISE UP AND DO WHAT TO WHOM''''


YOUVE YET TO CLARIFY WHAT THE ''''BI-RACIAL PRESIDENT, THATS WHITE & BLACK PRESIDENT, IS GOING TO DO TO THE MAJORITY POPULATED...WHITE SOCIETY...PLEASE ELABORATE AS TO WHAT THIS ''''RISING UP FEAR THEORY'''' OF YOURS WILL PRODUCE.


MORE WHITES IN THE MILITARY, POLICE DEPT, CITY, COUNTY AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. CONGRESS, SENATE, CITY, FEDERAL, COUNTY JUDGES TOO....

YOU JOHNNY REB, NAZI, KKK & ARYAN MORONS...

ARE THE LOWEST LIFE FORMS ON THE PLANET.

YOUR RACE RAVINGS & RACE RANTINGS ARE DEPLORABLE AS WELL AS YOUR BAD MATH !!

[omaar-101]

OBAMA WHITE LINEAGE IS A LINEAGE OF LEADERS...

NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST & STRETCHES ACROSS THE SEAS.

OBAMAS BLOOD RELATIVES (PRESIDENTS) A CONFEDERATE GENERAL & A GREAT PRIME MINISTER.


1. PRESIDENT: JAMES MADISON

2. PRESIDENT: HARRY S. TRUMAN

3. PRESIDENT: LYNDON B. JOHNSON

4. PRESIDENT: GERALD FORD

5. PRESIDENT: G. BUSH SR. & G. BUSH JR. (11TH COUSIN)

6. V. PRESIDENT: D!CK CHENEY OBAMAS (8TH COUSIN)

7. PRIME MINISTER: WINSTON CHURCHILL

8. CIVIL WAR GENERAL: ROBERT E. LEE

NOTE: HES RELATED ROBERT E. LEE, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY OBAMA WINS SO BIG IN THE SOUTH...HUH

EATMO CHICKIN: I BET YOU WISHED YOU HAD SUCH A LINEAGE...

YOU MONGREL

[omaar-101]

Hillarys A$$ is Toast !!


Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch

OBAMA 1,844

CLINTON 1,688

EDWARDS 18

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch

MCCAIN 1,328

HUCKABEE 231
ROMNEY 149

CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates.



Hillary Clinton a few Weeks Ago acted as though her 2 Months Predicted (PA) Win was a ComeBack, when it wasnt !!


Hillary was slated 2 Months ago to win (PA) by 20 Points...She didnt, She won by 9.6 Points...

Noone Ever talks about obama making Major Inroads in (PA) despite all the Controversy...She won by 9.6 Points, Oppose to the Months Predicted 20 Point Win !!


Obama was Suppose to Win Big in (NC) and he Delivered a He!! of a Blow to his Naysayers,foremost Hillary Clinton, 17 County Traveling Man Bill Clinton, with his Over Done Southern Accent, FAILED & NC College Camp To NC College Camp Traveling Daughter, Chelsea Clinton...Their Scare TACTICS, Race BAITING & Fear MONGERING, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan Scare TACTICS IN (NC) ...FAILED BIG TIME!!

CNN 9AM: INDIANA ARE STILL COUNTING ALL THOSE ABSENT TEE BALLOTS...I SAID STILL COUNTING ANSENTEE BALLOTS.

[libh8er]

OUR TIME HAS FINALLY COME !!
Posted by eatmochickn at 10:05 AM : May 07, 2008

I know a perpetratin'' honkey mo-fo when I see one! LOL

[jn122736]

RowdyTexan2 whined:
they don''''''''t care who''''''''s in the White House as long as it''''''''s the black man.
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But - their votes STILL COUNT, right?

Just like the votes of the 65% of white women in NC who voted for Hillary, REVERSE OF THE OVERALL COUNT. Any SEXISM there? Why not dismiss THOSE VOTES, too???

A little DOUBLE STANDARD problem this morning, Rowdy?
HMMMMMM???
Posted by txgrouch2004 at 09:01 AM : May 07, 2008
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txgrouch2004;
While RowdyTexan2 is obviously prejudiced in favor of Clinton, and may even be racially prejudiced against Obama, his/her statement was far more factual, than a doublestandard.

In the general election, the same racial and/or generic prejudices will weigh heavily on ALL voters, and definitely influence the outcome. I doubt there are ANY voters totally free of prejudice, of one kind or another.

My only hope is that MOST voters in this election will vote for what they truly feel is best for America instead of their personal prejudices.

I would ask if RowdyTexan2 would vote for the democratic nominee in the general election, either Clinton OR Obama?

[JoelB]

Back to the news article. It was excellent and more interesting than any other from CBS. At last they have someone working for them with some insight.

[antoniof123]

I can''t bellive that some of you idiots out there want to make this about race.

I lived through this before and really don''t want to do it again.

This is about America you morons not about race, religion or any other such nonsense. If you take it to the race issue you have already lost.

Stop fighting among yourselves.