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Iraq: No Evidence Iran Is Arming Shiites

Top Official Says Reports That Militants Received Weapons From Tehran Are Not "Conclusive"

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    Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh (seen here in 2007) said that "There is no conclusive evidence" that rockets seized from Shiite militias were supplied by Iran, as has been alleged by the United States government.  (AP Photo/Ali Abbas, Pool)

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(AP)  A top Iraqi official said Sunday there was no "conclusive" evidence that Shiite extremists have been directly supplied with some Iranian arms as alleged by the United States.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraq does not want trouble with any country, "especially Iran."

Al-Dabbagh was commenting on talks this week in Tehran between an Iraqi delegation and Iranian authorities aimed at halting suspected Iranian aid to some Shiite militias.

Asked about reports that some rockets made in 2007 or 2008 and seized in raids against militias were directly supplied by Iran, al-Dabbagh replied: "There is no conclusive evidence."

Al-Dabbagh said Iraq wants friendly ties with Iran and stressed both countries share common interests.

"We can't ignore or deny we are neighbors. We do not want to be pushed in a struggle with any country, especially Iran," he told a news conference.

"We are fed up with past tensions that we have paid a costly price for because some parties have pushed Iraq (in the past) to take an aggressive attitude to Iran."

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by singingrick May 4, 2008 2:32 PM PDT


You mean the Bush administration is lying to the American people to get us into another war?


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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
I think this guy is trying to justify Iraqis cowardice.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 03:05 PM : May 04, 2008

Perhaps. But I think you, as usual, are trying to justify the lies of the Bush adminstration and stoking the fires for more war, death and mayhem to feed your perverse and sickening bloodlust.
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by demslie May 4, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
Considering that IRAQ does not manufacture any weapons, where do the weapons that bear IRAN serial numbers come from. Of course the best friends that the IRANIAN terrorist have, The Democrats, will say the Bush is sending them to start a war. IRAN can always depend on their Democrat Supporters like O''Bama to make excuses for thier genocide and blame America. The troops who have been claiming for two years that IRAN is killing them are just stupid Bush Pawns. Right Democrats?
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
Iraq smacks down the Bush administration once again, and shows us what the future will hold: Iran and Iraq forming a power block and sitting on much of the world''s oil.

And this is all thanks to the Bush administration, the cowardly GOP rubberstampers and the ineffective Dems who did NOTHING to try and stop this.
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by downsteamjim May 4, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
Of course Iran is not a problem. After all present day Iran is a product of Jimmy ''Please do not let that rabbit eat me'' Carter. Just ask Jimmy when he leaves his mosque in Georgia.
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by ontheleft May 4, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
''Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraq does not want trouble with any country, "especially Iran."''

Well, what the Iraqi government wants doesn''t matter. We didn''t go in there to establish a sovereign independent nation. It''s a puppet government that must do as the United States says.

Just because weapons are made in Iran doesn''t mean the Iranian government is supplying them. Circumstantial evidence wont cut it anymore. Who is the military genius that is not controlling the border between Iran and Iraq and thus allowing the weapons in? Or maybe that''s the goal. Allow the weapons to flow in so an excuse for war with Iran can be made.
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by incog-nito May 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
Well here it is, straight from the horse''s mouth, from our ally the Iraqi government. What? They''re lying too? Our ally? This is too funny.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
Floyd,,,,If you repeat you"re a REPUBLICAN I"ll report your abuse to CBS staff.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 03:46 PM : May 04, 2008

Oh, now look what you''ve done Floyd. You''ve made him run to the teacher!

Floyd and those like him are, hopefully, the future of the GOP. This evangelical, ultra-wing group of simps and morons like yourself are being pushed to the side, thankfully.

Last night a Dem in LA won a GOP seat in some of the most solid Republican territory in the US. What does that mean? It means that despite the Dems problems and shortcomings, your party is going to be decimated this fall.
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by ontheleft May 4, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
You from DEMONCRATS Party and your theory of conspiracy are making me sick. If it was so easy to control a border we wouldnt have millions of illegal immigrants and drugs flowing into America by the Mexican border. Idiot.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 03:49 PM

Saddam Hussein controlled the border - it was essentially a closed border before we invaded. Controlling borders isn''t rocket science, but as you pointed out, the United States can''t even control its own border with Mexico. That''s why we have volunteers down in Arizona trying to do what the government will not.
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by noloyalisti May 4, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
Why do we blame Iran for anything after our program of state sponsored terror in the Middle East (and Afghanistan as well)? We are the ones who are threatening Iran and world peace. Look who is running for the fascist party, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb mcBush. We need to accept out losses and stop our terrorist program in Iraq, we have no business there.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
We rushed to Iraq after invading Afghanistan to catch the guy who hired OBL to attack us as revenge after being kicked off Kwait:SADDAM HUSSEIN.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 03:53 PM : May 04, 2008

Lie.

I know why you lie. And why you have to lie. And why you have to believe in your senseless lie:

You believe this lie not because it makes sense, or that there is any proof to support it - none exists. You believe because you _need_ to. Otherwise all the other lies that have followed would crash down around you and you''d be forced to look at this as the rest of us do. And you wouldn''t be able to.
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by guadalcanal3 May 4, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
C''mon everybody...the Shiite government of Iraq will never admit to receiving arms from Shiite Iran..."Lying" is a way of life in the Mideast...It is not the Bush Adminisration that is telling us about Iran supplying munitions to Iraq...it is our ''troops on the ground'' that are telling us this...it is ''them'' that are being killed by these weapons...and it is ''them'' that we should believe.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
Floyd,,,Have you seen the polls?

Posted by BagdadsHere at 04:12 PM : May 04, 2008

I bet he has, but you haven''t apparently. Both Clinton and Obama are ahead, and the electoral map strongly favors the democratic candidate.

Once the Dems decide on a candidate, he or she is going to HAMMER McSame with his insane devotion to the failed Iraq policies of the Bush administration. McSame will be soundly defeated and the Dems will pick up several seats in both houses of congress.
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by ontheleft May 4, 2008 4:18 PM PDT
''You"re an idiot ontheleft. Do you know how SADDAM controlled the border? He shot and killed anything that moved. We cant do this because we are not tyrant. We must check everybody to see if they are smugglers,terrorists,etc,etc. That costs a lot of money and the Iraq border is really long.''

Posted by BagdadsHere at 04:06 PM

The idea that Hussein shot and killed anyone who tried to cross the border is pure fantasy on your part.

Yeah, it would cost money and manpower to control that border but what price do you put on the life of an American soldier? Bush doesn''t have the balls to call up a draft. And you''re here flapping your trap while you could be over there helping out.
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by speakinup May 4, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
IT seems to me that a year or two back there was evidence of hsape charges being brought into Iraq by Iran.

I wonder if makes this denial in order to not bring the Iranians down on his country, should the US decide to leave.

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by singingrick May 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT


More Bush/Republicon lies.


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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:33 PM PDT
I dont think so.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 04:22 PM : May 04, 2008


...which gives me all the more reason to believe it will happen. Ultra rightwing nuts like yourself have been basically wrong about everything -especially the last few years.
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by ontheleft May 4, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
''I"ve said at least 10,000 lies in my life and i"m just 38 years old.''
''By the way, when I built roads for Saddam (1980-1985) he was a great US ally.''
Posted by BagdadsHere

So you were about 10 years old when you were building roads for Hussein. I guess that''s another of your 10,000 lies.

The enlistment age is 42. How about putting your money where your mouth is instead of flapping your trap?
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by singingrick May 4, 2008 4:35 PM PDT


Do you have any evidence whatsoever that what the Bush administration is accusing Iran of is true?

No?

Thought not.

lol!



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by singingrick May 4, 2008 4:38 PM PDT



Bush and his Republicon friends have made so much money off of the Iraq war, they can''t wait to start another one.

Of course, once again, they''re trying to lie there way into it.


lol!
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by taylor2124 May 4, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
I wish Bush would just start a military war with the liberal a-holes on this forum, rather than Iran. There is nothing I''d like to see more than McVet, SgtRDS, FloydZepp, J-whitman, and FeelFree get a 3am knock on their door by a bunch of our Rangers with automatic weapons. Yee haa, take these SCUM to a dark hole and water-freekin-board the he*ll out of ''em
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:44 PM PDT
I wish Bush would just start a military war with the liberal a-holes on this forum, rather than Iran.

Posted by taylor2124 at 04:42 PM : May 04, 2008

Oh yeah? Do you always have other people do your fighting for you? You friggin pu.ssy.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
Just stay all day long posting lies and unproven accusations here on CBS.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 04:44 PM : May 04, 2008

HAHAHA! You''re one to talk, you dumbas.s douch.ebag!
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by incog-nito May 4, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
BagdadsHere: It''s OK. Some people lose it every now and then. Nothing to be ashamed about.
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by incog-nito May 4, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
BagdadsHere: It''s OK. Some people lose it every now and then. Nothing to be ashamed about.
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by hucklebarry4 May 4, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
I love all these comments....particularly from those who sit back and speculate..never set foot on Iraqi soil. Take it from someone who''s lived there..Saddam killed anyone he wanted, whenever he wanted to kill them...some with his own hands. You think Iran is not supplying these arms behind the curtains? Think Saddam had no ties to OBL?...you then are a very big fool. US military presence is the only thing that keeps Iran from invasion. Once gone...watch what will happen in the middle east... fools that you are, it will cost much more to stop the holy wars that will erupt...and all the precious oil that will be destroyed.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
Perhaps they are MADE IN BRAZIL.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 04:48 PM : May 04, 2008

Moron, stop being so literal. There is a subtext here that is being totally lost on you. Basically, Iraq is laying the foundation for closer ties with Iran and distancing itself from the US. And there''s not jack we can do about it.
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by ontheleft May 4, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Posted by BagdadsHere

Funny how you like calling everyone else a coward. Since you won''t volunteer, I think we need to call up a draft of all 38 year olds. We''ll put you right on the border to stop the flow of arms. Problem solved.
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by roger_inkart May 4, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Think Saddam had no ties to OBL?...you then are a very big fool.

Posted by Hucklebarry4 at 04:50 PM : May 04, 2008

He didn''t. You''re the fool for believing something that isn''t true. Documents have been found showing he didn''t trust al-Qaeda and saw Osama as a threat. There was no alliance. It is nothing more than a rightwing fantasy to justify what has been done.

You''re the one living in a fool''s paradise.
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by ioweign May 4, 2008 4:55 PM PDT
I love all these comments....particularly from those who sit back and speculate..never set foot on Iraqi soil. Take it from someone who''''s lived there..Saddam killed anyone he wanted, whenever he wanted to kill them...some with his own hands. You think Iran is not supplying these arms behind the curtains? Think Saddam had no ties to OBL?...you then are a very big fool. US military presence is the only thing that keeps Iran from invasion. Once gone...watch what will happen in the middle east... fools that you are, it will cost much more to stop the holy wars that will erupt...and all the precious oil that will be destroyed.

Posted by Hucklebarry4 at 04:50 PM : May 04, 2008

For sale - chemical formula to change lead into gold.

Hey - you''re the one that will buy anything...
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by bozworth4 May 4, 2008 4:56 PM PDT
I wish Bush would just start a military war with the liberal a-holes on this forum, rather than Iran. There is nothing I''''d like to see more than McVet, SgtRDS, FloydZepp, J-whitman, and FeelFree get a 3am knock on their door by a bunch of our Rangers with automatic weapons. Yee haa, take these SCUM to a dark hole and water-freekin-board the he*ll out of ''''em


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Posted by taylor2124


The way the good old USA is going, could happen to anyone King George II orders it done to. Be careful what you wish for and be ready. The same knock COULD happen to you.
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by flajoe1 May 4, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
Think Saddam had no ties to OBL?...you then are a very big fool.

Posted by Hucklebarry4 at 04:50 PM

Are you calling President Bush a fool? He clearly stated that Saddam had no ties to OBL.


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by ioweign May 4, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
Baggy Boy, you sound desperate. Maybe you should go build some more roads for the terrorists....

Posted by FloydZepp at 04:26 PM : May 04, 2008

He wants to work on that "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska.

Right up his alley...
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by bozworth4 May 4, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
THE IRAN-IRAQ TALKS:

-AHMADINEJAD...Americans will have to leave someday and we will stay here forever.

-ALMALIKI. But Americans are our friends. We cant betray them.

-AHMADINEJAD. How much money America can give you? I"ll give twice. Lets be friends. Together we can control the flow of oil in the Persian Gulf and then we will intimidate Kwait,Saudis,Bahrein. America will have no oil in the Middle east anymore.
-ALMALIKI. But how can we do? The US forces control everything in Iraq.
-AHMADINEJAD. Just let us kill some AMERICANS that their DEMONCRATS Party will call for a withdraw. You know the AMERICAN FAR LEFT WING is made of coward chickens.


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Posted by BagdadsHere


You write like you know these people VERY well. Relatives or in laws??
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by prinzowhales May 4, 2008 5:03 PM PDT
Hucklebarry--The evidence--even admitted by the US Regime--was that Saddam was not supporting al Qaeda. If US military presence were the only thing that kept Iran from invading Iraq...then it looks like it would have moved and launched a war of aggression at some time in the last two centuries.

Iran poses no danger to me...no danger to North Carolina...no danger to the people of the United States. The danger that Iran poses is to the FED''s funny money system, the ability of the Anglo-Americans and their allies to control low-cost oil production and distribution and to the Israelis ability to expand further without serious opposition...as they discovered in their murderous attack on their neighbor, Lebanon.
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by ioweign May 4, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
I wish Bush would just start a military war with the liberal a-holes on this forum, rather than Iran. There is nothing I''''d like to see more than McVet, SgtRDS, FloydZepp, J-whitman, and FeelFree get a 3am knock on their door by a bunch of our Rangers with automatic weapons. Yee haa, take these SCUM to a dark hole and water-freekin-board the he*ll out of ''''em

Posted by taylor2124 at 04:42 PM : May 04, 2008

Just like the good ole days back in Germany...

Sprechen Sie Deutsch
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by flajoe1 May 4, 2008 5:13 PM PDT
Think Saddam had no ties to OBL?...you then are a very big fool.

Posted by Hucklebarry4 at 04:50 PM

Are you calling President Bush a fool? He clearly stated that Saddam had no ties to OBL.



Posted by Flajoe1 at 04:59 PM : May 04, 2008

You FAR LEFT WING always say Bush is a liar, then he lied on us about that too. SADDAM DID HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. He hired OBL to attack us in revenge for being kicked off Kwait. And he never forgave America for destroying his bridges over the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.


--osted by BagdadsHere at 05:10 PM : May 04, 2008

So now your calling Bush a fool and a lier?
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by ioweign May 4, 2008 5:16 PM PDT
I lived there for 5 years. I know how those nuts think. I think we should keep that region stable as long as they have oil. But when their oil is over, I think is going to be within 10 years from now, then we can stop feeding those nuts and let them kill each other. End of Story.

Posted by BagdadsHere at 05:06 PM : May 04, 2008

How about just sending them to reservations ??

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by speakinup May 4, 2008 5:18 PM PDT
"The same knock COULD happen to you. - Posted by bozworth4


We''ve heard this time and again - but how many US citizens have you seen that this has happened to ?

I don''t believe anyone wants to have to water-board anyone. The fact is, terrorists don''t play by a set of rules that we are all expected to uphold.

Nice guys finish last.

Normally, we are the nice guy and play by the rules. And, we can again in the future. But, I''m not going to let some terrorist that has information withold it because of some unplesantness.

If I believe it will save lives, I say water-board the terrorist. And if he doesn''t tell you the truth when you stop, keep on doing it. He will soon learn it''s not nice to fool with his handlers.

After awhile he will sing as beautiful as a canary and faster than a tabacco auctionist.

But if he has nothing to say - then leave him be in his cage.
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by flajoe1 May 4, 2008 5:21 PM PDT
Hay BagdadsHere
Did you know that OBL''s family owns one of the largest road construction companies in the Middle East? So not only did you work for Saddam you may have worked for OBL.
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by ioweign May 4, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
Nice guys finish last.

Posted by speakinup at 05:18 PM : May 04, 2008

That is a myth.

We get OK with WW2.

Of course, it helps to be smart too.

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by caemler May 4, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
This should be simple. If you say Saddam did pay OBL to commit 9/11 strike just show your proof of this. Remember, proof is not some "news" talk show persons words, just because it is said by a TV personality does not make it proof. Something simply said by a government official is also not proof. Words are not proof, actual documents (and more than one source, remember, in the mouth of two or three witnesses is a matter established) constitute proof. Now, where is your proof
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by caemler May 4, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
This should be simple. If you say Saddam did pay OBL to commit 9/11 strike just show your proof of this. Remember, proof is not some "news" talk show persons words, just because it is said by a TV personality does not make it proof. Something simply said by a government official is also not proof. Words are not proof, actual documents (and more than one source, remember, in the mouth of two or three witnesses is a matter established) constitute proof. Now, where is your proof
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by speakinup May 4, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
IOWEIGN - yes, and for the most part, the Germans wore uniforms and played by the rules of war. They didn''t fit the current foe''s definition. That''s why we could afford to fight the way we did.

In this case - I beieve terrorists deserve whatever they get. I WOULD like to make a distinction between suspected terrorists and KNOWN terrorists though. I do feel it would be inappropriate to torture ANYONE for a fishing expedition. But when you KNOW they have info and definitly are a terrorist - hey - bummer dude - this is what they sign on for. They can look at it as a down-payment on those 95 virgins and Allah''s blessings.



Flajoe1 - did you know the OBL was an outcast in his own family ?
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by speakinup May 4, 2008 5:31 PM PDT
caemler - show me proof you aren''t from Mars.

Ok - while that''s silly - my point is, NO ONE on this site can provide that sort of proof for much of anything.

We are posting comments here, and not with the sort of budget one would have if they were trying to find out if there was another shooter on the grassy knoll.
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by flajoe1 May 4, 2008 5:32 PM PDT
Flajoe1 - did you know the OBL was an outcast in his own family ?
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Posted by speakinup at 05:27 PM : May 04, 2008

Not in the 80''s when BagdadsHere may have been working for him. Remember he was a hero fighting the Russians in the 80''s. They disowned him when he became a religious nut case.
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by speakinup May 4, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
Flajoe1 - so what was your point with Baghdad - that he worked for OBL''s family ? Who would care ?

That he worked for OBL before he bacame a bad guy ?

Once again, who would care ?


OBL was an enemy of our enemy at the time (80''s), so wouldn''t baghdad actually have been helping a friend ?
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by flajoe1 May 4, 2008 5:44 PM PDT
OBL was an enemy of our enemy at the time (80''''s), so wouldn''''t baghdad actually have been helping a friend ?
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Posted by speakinup at 05:37 PM

Yes he would of been. Baghdad seemed proud of working for Saddam so I pointed out he could of been working for OBL too.



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by frankbowers May 4, 2008 5:45 PM PDT
Just like there were not WMD''s in the end bush could care less as long as one or two of the ********** idiots contion;ue to lie for him.
gw bush will say and do anything to keep the *** war going he is a big a$$ loser.
Frank Bowers
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by veteran72 May 4, 2008 5:55 PM PDT
Asked about reports that some rockets made in 2007 or 2008 and seized in raids against militias were directly supplied by Iran, al-Dabbagh replied: "There is no conclusive evidence."

Al-Dabbagh said Iraq wants friendly ties with Iran and stressed both countries share common interests.

"We can''t ignore or deny we are neighbors. We do not want to be pushed in a struggle with any country, especially Iran," he told a news conference.

"We are fed up with past tensions that we have paid a costly price for because some parties have pushed Iraq (in the past) to take an aggressive attitude to Iran."

Doesn''t it sukk when your puppets start thinking for themselves and refuse to goose-step down the avenue under a Neocon Nazi Swastika??? ROLMMFAO
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