WASHINGTON, May 4, 2008
Does A Right-Wing Conspiracy Help Hillary?
Obama Supporter Says Republican Commentators Are Aiming To Skew Primary Results
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Who Will The Dems Choose?
Democratic Richmond, Va. Mayor and Barack Obama supporter Doug Wilder and Hillary Clinton supporter Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) discuss the upcoming primary elections with Bob Schieffer.
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Bob Schieffer speaks with Democratic Richmond, Va. Mayor and Barack Obama supporter Doug Wilder and Hillary Clinton supporter Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) about upcoming primary elections.
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Mayor Douglas Wilder of Richmond, Va., a former senator, said a concerted effort by right-wing media was driving voters to Clinton because, he feels, she is the weaker candidate for the Democratic nomination.
"Why are the poll numbers showing a certain element of the voter being unreachable as far as Barack is concerned? Let's get real. Who is running all of the ads on a regular basis? The bloggers, the right-wing commentators on the radio," Wilder told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer. "Who are they supporting? Not Barack Obama. They are literally begging people - and these are Republicans - literally begging people, 'Please vote for Hillary Clinton.'
"They have no intention of supporting Hillary Clinton in November. And why are they doing that? Why is it Barack Obama can reach what some call the 'elite voter' but he can't reach the others? That's poppycock. There is a concentrated effort to derive those voters away from him and to drive them to Hillary Clinton, because many of them think that Hillary will be the weaker.”
Concurring with Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., Wilder said that the Democrats faced a "riotous" convention if the will of the people - in terms of a candidate with the greatest number of pledged delegates and primary or votes - was usurped by the party's superdelegates. "People would be tremendously upset," he said.
Clyburn, however, went further, believing that such a decision might inspire violence.
It would certainly breed discontent, he said, especially among younger voters, as he described his visits to historical black colleges and universities in his district: "That is what these young people were saying to me. They were very, very upset with all of this talk about superdelegates overturning their energies and overturning their efforts.
"A lot of them were saying that they felt that all of this talk about Senator Obama [was] just ways to damage him permanently for making it impossible for him to win even if he were to get the nomination.
"These young people have come into this party to the extent that I have not seen in 40 years. And we ought not be doing or saying anything to tamp down their enthusiasm."
Clyburn's message to the superdelegates who are free to vote their will? "They are free to take all of these things into account. And I think that they should. What they are not free to do, in my opinion, is to just outright reject or overturn without sufficient cause what may have happened in these various caucuses and these primaries.
"Be very, very careful. Don't do it just because you got the power to do it, but have good reasons if it comes to that."
While Clyburn and Wilder debated the impact or non-impact upon Obama's campaign by the recent remarks of Rev. Lawrence Wright, Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and a Clinton supporter, said that her willingness to stay in the race demonstrated a toughness and perseverance that is attractive to voters.
"She's a fighter," Bayh said. "And I think people know that it's not going to be easy to deliver the kind of results that they want. And it's her fortitude, in some ways the fact that she's been knocked down. There have been all these calls for her to quit, to go away, to disenfranchise the people of our state, for example. But she says, no, I'm in this for the American people. I'm going to stand strong for them.
"And so it's that grit and determination I think people like, plus the level of experience, the ability to deliver results.
"Barack is a very formidable person, a gifted candidate, and is very persuasive at any number of levels, but it's that between two good people, that perception that one has a little bit more experience and probably can actually deliver the kind of change that people are looking for I think that's resonating well here in the heartland."
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See all 78 CommentsGive me a break! YOU TOO will lie for Obama!
What a crock!
Every single network... is making it look like he has absolutely no chance of getting a poor white person to vote for him...and I dont think it would be the case.. if it werent being hammered into white peoples heads by the AP all day everyday. What has Obama personally done to these people?
I also feel that if Barack is railroaded there will be violence... somebody is going to get hurt. At least give the appearance of fairness...Obama cant buy a break. Its like watching an innocent Lamb being pushed into the slaughter house.
Fox has been marathoning Obama slander and hate for a month straight and the rest of the networks have cought on and bought in ...Hillary couldnt help but benefit.
It hurts to watch this happen... thats the honest to gods truth. and thats all that it is...
Well, I was going to vote for Hillary, but on the strength of this Republican interest, I''m voting for Obama now. We need to take the Republicans down come November: that''s the FIRST priority. If they think Obama''s the man to do it, THEN so do I.
Don''t believe it for one minute.
Men who are secure in there Masculinity have no problem voting for Hillary. Take your own survey if you don''t believe me. It''s the wimps that are supporting Obama.
place all his life....
I have watched the Dems do this year after year. I just don''t get it. The Repubs. are always bashed by the media, but they still come out and support the candidate. The Dems always let the media trash their frontrunner and then anger the entire party later.
PS: Please include Huffingtonpost, Daily Kos, and Politico (until recently) on that list of "media."
"Hillary owes a large portion of her success/ life to the 24 hr Anti-Obama fest that began on Fox news and thats the truth... its a shame but its the truth.
Fox has been marathoning Obama slander and hate for a month straight and the rest of the networks have cought on and bought in ...Hillary couldnt help but benefit.
It hurts to watch this happen... thats the honest to gods truth. and thats all that it is...
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Posted by keypinitreel at 05:39 PM : May 04, 2008"
The Super Delegates are well aware that the reason Obama has done well in the caucuses is because his people go in there and actually intimidate the voters into voting for him!
If only what you believe was actually beleivable.
Pretty cool, ain''t it? It was a Clinton that sold our jobs to India, China, Vietnam, and Mexico - and now it is people like Bayh saying:
"Bend over, dammit! You know you like it!".
--ROTFLMAO with the other Hillary supporters!!
Fortunately Senator Obama will be our nominee. A man of great character, wisdom, and integrity. I am looking forward to having a leader I actually respect in the white house. I am so grateful he is willing to go through this ugly contest to fight for the right to lead our nation. I know that he has demonstrated remarkable restraint in not attacking the Clintons, as he could, with all of their smelly garbage collecting flies in the background. He has chosen not to win that way. The Clintons will clearly do anything, say anything, lie, cheat, steal, destroy, do whatever they can to try to win. As a country we need to demonstrate that this will NOT be rewarded as an example for all americans.
I believe Michelle Obama will be an excellent first lady and that Senator Obama has the potential of becoming one of the greatest leaders of our time.
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
OBAMA ''08
Clyburn, however, went further, believing that such a decision might inspire violence."
This remark is very insulting to the black electorate. Clyburn is insinuating that blacks will riot if they do not get Obama as the democratic presidential candidate.
Will this work in November too? Vote for Obama or we will burn and loot your cities and rape your wives.
Let''s put it on a bumper sticker.
Anyone have a problem with this?
Do you remember the violence when the cops who beat Rodney King were acquitted? Have you been reading the headlines NOW about demonstrations over the acquittal of the cops who shot that fellow (Bell?) in NY on his wedding night?
That people might predict violence if the black community feels a severe injustice is HISTORICALLY BASED. The black community HAS reacted violently to perceived injustice.
That''s not a judgment of good or bad....that''s paying attention to recent history.
2. Perhaps republican news are reporting polls that show Hillary in a fiar light, maybe this is because the rest of the MSM is in the tank for Obama. Hillayr supporters have seen this for months now. Never thought I''d wathc FOX news, but that was before the rest of the media crowned the Messiah!!
Obama is toast now, falling in the polls, proven to be a bigot and a snob. He should go back to Chicago where he learned to steal and manipulate elections.
HILLARY 2008
PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP TO THE PHONY MESSIAH
That people might predict violence if the black community feels a severe injustice is HISTORICALLY BASED. The black community HAS reacted violently to perceived injustice.
Posted by blazercoach1 at 07:29 PM : May 04, 2008
One cannot help but wonder WHY the Black community always reacts violently instead of pursuing other non-violent avenues?
Posted by muffee at 07:51 PM : May 04, 2008
Get a clue!!!
Everyone needs to vote for Micky Mouse this year ... or Superman, whoever you like best!
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
your social mind is inferior.I know you gonna argue but trust me.
Now there is a talk whether Obama is going win it ,i say i wish it could happen but i know it will not.
U.S.America a country dominated by people of British ancestors know how to get the press and to keep people in the news but all that finally will not even help the German Americans who are the biggest portion and the news are talking about the Africa Americans.There is nothing difficult like changing the perception of white people about the blacks and people of color in general.It takes time to change.The white people have destroyed Africa we all know but in countries like Ethiopia where the whites never landed their legs again after the historic defeat of whites in Adwa , .still you don''''t know what poisonous tactics are the white people are preparing to hype Obama and overthrow him finally.
all i know is that Obama will never win but he already won something that the whites can not take
"that he showed the white people that he got the mind and courage and that they are where they are because of the media and because they are more in number. "
peace obama
Posted by d17foru at 09:41 PM : May 04, 2008
What??? You don''t think anyone read this heaping pile of *** that you wrote the first 15 times so you keep posting it???
Grow-up Liberal scumwad!
Operation Chaos helps Hillary and this nomination would be over with if that great American Limbaugh and his loyal dittodipshtz weren''t more concerned with subverting the democratic process than actually being LOYAL TO THEIR COUNTRY. YOU HERE ME??? YOU ARE DISLOYAL, TREASONOUS, & UNAMERICAN! A real patriot wants only the best for America, God bless her. The superdelegates are there for the express purpose of preventing an effort such as yours. You''d be sickened if democrats did the same thing to you, believe ME! Please leave.
Posted by bbjr5 at 09:55 PM : May 04, 2008
What a doof..get out the way!
Take your dumb a$$ somewhere , sit down and shut the hell up! Its time for CHANGE! We will make it happen in 08. If tyhe nomination is in fact stolen from Barack, HRC will not get elected in November!!!
I would vote for a Goat before I vote for her!!
Posted by LeFeaoux at 09:59 PM : May 04, 2008
You tell someone to grow up by calling them a liberal scumwad? Do you have any idea how fu*cking stupid that makes you look?
Operation Chaos helps Hillary and this nomination would be over with if that great American Limbaugh and his loyal dittodipshtz weren''''t more concerned with subverting the democratic process than actually being LOYAL TO THEIR COUNTRY. YOU HERE ME??? YOU ARE DISLOYAL, TREASONOUS, & UNAMERICAN! A real patriot wants only the best for America, God bless her. The superdelegates are there for the express purpose of preventing an effort such as yours. You''''d be sickened if democrats did the same thing to you, believe ME! Please leave.
Posted by TawpDawg11 at 12:13 AM : May 05, 2008
There is only one response for this ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You soggy a$$ cornflake!
Posted by LeFeaoux at 09:59 PM : May 04, 2008
You tell someone to grow up by calling them a liberal scumwad? Do you have any idea how fu*cking stupid that makes you look?
Posted by SgtRDS at 01:50 AM : May 05, 2008
Yeah, about as stupid as YOU supporting the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Israelis! Yeah, I remember you you traitorous scab!
Besides, you screwballs don''t respond to intelligence and reason, so we are forced to communicate to you in your own way. I have heard you do the very same thing idiot!
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Posted by SgtRDS at 01:14 AM : May 05, 2008
Republicans have nothing to lose if she''s nominated.They win in November,even if she beats McCain.She''s not going to do anything to upset the status quo,since she is part of it.The people that are voting for her are fools.She is part of the problem,not the solution.If she "wins" the nomination,it''s another "dumb,or dumber" election,and there''s not much point in voting,other than giving Hillary and the dopes that support her,a slap in the face.Obama supporters need to tell the democratic party and Hillary to go to hell.Write in Obamas''name,or if you don''t have that option,stay home.Hillary and her supporters think they''re so smart,and won''t back Obama in the general,we need to leave them "high and dry",if she steals the nomination.Nobama?NO HILLARY!
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Posted by LeFeaoux at 02:05 AM : May 05, 2008
Can''t help laughing at you.All this from some moron that voted for Bush,arguably the worst president ever.Keep flappin'' your gums,rocket scientist,LOL!
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