Polygamist Teen Gives Birth To Boy

Baby Is Healthy And Mother Doing Well; Church Says She's 18, State Says She's A Minor

(CBS/AP)  One of the hundreds of young polygamist-sect members taken into state custody gave birth Tuesday to a healthy boy while child welfare officials, state troopers and fellow sect members stood watch outside the maternity ward.

"The boy is healthy and the mother is doing well," Patrick Crimmins, spokesman for the state Child Protective Services, said of the noontime birth at Central Texas Medical Center.

The mother is "younger than 18," Crimmins said, and will remain with her new son in a nearby foster-care facility until a formal custody hearing will determine the pair's fate sometime before June 5. Crimmins declined to give any other details about the girl or where she and the baby would stay.

The girl's mother was present for the birth, but Crimmins said he didn't know who alerted her that her daughter was in labor.

Rod Parker, a spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade Mormon sect, contends the girl is 18. State officials have the girl on a list of minors taken into state custody.

Two armed state troopers and at least one person wearing the shirt of a Department of Family and Protective Services worker stood outside the maternity ward. A woman wearing the FLDS's trademark pastel prairie dress and upswept braided hair sat calmly in the nearby waiting room. All declined to comment, as did a woman who said she was the girl's attorney.

State officials raided the FLDS's Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado on April 3. They took custody of 463 children on the belief that the sect's practice of underage and polygamous spiritual marriages endangered the children.

A number of girls first listed as adults were reclassified as minors as Child Protective Services, a division of Family and Protective Services, moved the children last week from a mass shelter in San Angelo to foster care facilities around the state, including some near San Marcos, in central Texas.

CPS spokesman Darrell Azar said he was unaware that an FLDS teen had gone into labor, but added that typically, a child born to a ward of the state becomes a ward of the state also.

Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety, said she was unaware of troopers' involvement at the maternity ward, but said CPS often asks uniformed law enforcement to escort child welfare workers when needed.

On Monday, CPS announced that almost 60 percent of the underage girls living on the Eldorado ranch either have children or are pregnant.

Of the 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who are in state custody, 31 either have given birth or are expecting, Azar said.

CPS said they are slowly getting some cooperation from girls, who initially claimed to be older than their actual age, reports CBS News correspondent Hari Sreenivasan.

Under Texas law, children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult. A girl can get married with parental permission at 16, but none of these girls is believed to have a legal marriage under state law.

Church officials have denied that any children were abused at the ranch and say the state's actions are a form of religious persecution. They also dispute the count of teen mothers, saying at least some are likely adults.

All the children are supposed to get individual hearings before June 5 to help determine if they'll stay in state custody or if their parents may be able to take steps to regain custody. The first hearings have been set for May 19.

No one has been charged since the raid, which was prompted by a series of calls to a domestic abuse hot line, purportedly from a 16-year-old girl forced into a marriage recognized only by the sect with a man three times her age. That girl has not been found and authorities are investigating whether the call was a hoax.

Of the 463 children, 250 are girls and 213 are boys. Children 13 and younger are about evenly split — 197 girls and 196 boys — but there are only 17 boys aged 14 to 17 compared with the 53 girls in that age range.

The sect, which broke from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints more than a century ago, believes polygamy brings glorification in heaven. Its leader, Warren Jeffs, is revered as a prophet. Jeffs was convicted last year in Utah of forcing a 14-year-old girl into marriage with an older cousin and awaits trial on related charges in Arizona.

[cpaide]

i recommend the following book for more information on the filthy violent nature of the KLK (krazy lesbians kult) which is trying to obtain control of the mormon children:

No More Secrets : Violence in Lesbian Relationships
http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Secrets-Violence-Relationships/dp/0415929466/
"This study of abuse in lesbian relationships looks you in the eye and dares you to turn away. Far from being a prurient study of a fringe group of violent lesbians, this book demands that the queer community at large--afraid of straight disdain --recognize its accountability. No More Secrets illustrates that despite what many lesbian feminists believe, acts of violence are not committed solely by men."

[cpaide]

Krazy Lesbians Kult (KLK):
"A lesbian sect generally considered to be Extremist or False, with it''s followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of one or more Authoritarian, Charismatic leaders. Obsessive, especially faddish devotion to or veneration for a person, principle or thing. Also, obsessive, especially faddish opposition to or disdain for a group, person, principle or thing."

[cpaide]

Posted by dome200q

It appears that you and several other people are being mind-managed by the KLK (krazy lesbians kult), which conspired to provide a false police report that resulted in the raid on the Texas Mormons.

The objective of the KLK (whose members include the Texas social workers and judge on the case) is to obtain the humble, white Mormon children and adopt them out to infertile lesbian couples, and that is happening right now.

Once these kids are in the hands of the KLK, they''re told there is no such thing as too early for ***. Whenever the head lesbian tells them to go ''marry'' an old lesbian, that''s who they''re given to. They''re groomed to be pedophile fodder. Information presented shows that they''re given to be concubines (not wives - lesbians can''t have wives) at puberty or before, and have un-natural $ex while still children themselves.

[cpaide]

"Cpaide, Once again, you never answered which part of the world you live in.
Also, you made statements that case workers were fired. Nothing has been written about that, so how do you know, or did you just make it up?"
Posted by dome200q

once again, please provide YOUR contact information, and i will do the same. what are you afraid of?

i have made NOTHING up. these are all well-known facts. read below.

you don''t know ANYTHING except the false allegations (not facts) by the inept investigators.

the phone call that initiated the raid was proven to be false. the woman responsible has been arrested and charged with making a false police report.

the allegations of a 50-year-old man having $3x with a 14-year-old girl have proven to be a story made up by one of the investigators who is no longer on the case.

the allegations of a 50-year-old man raping and abusing a 14-year-old girl have proven to be a story made up by an investigator who is no longer on the case.

the allegations of a bed in the temple with "disturbed sheets" and "what appears to be a female hair" have been disproven likewise.

no criminal charges have been filed, and none are anticipated. that is because there is NO EVIDENCE of any criminal activity, period.

case closed. let the mormons go back home.

Cpaide, Once again, you never answered which part of the world you live in.
Also, you made statements that case workers were fired. Nothing has been written about that, so how do you know, or did you just make it up?

[displeased]

Well if they are waiting for DNA, how do they know the fathers are much older already???
Posted by truthalways

Because there are no straight fathers under 18 there. If a teenage boy expresses interest in a girl, they expel him on the streets as a lost boy. Leaving the teenage girls no choice but to marry sweaty old men waiting their turns. DNA tests will determine exactly who they are. Then arrests will be made. Do you really think they would keep these kids if they didn''t have something to investigate? I''m no expert on Texas authorities, but I would be very surprised if they would jeopardize their department''s reliability by continuing with a hopeless investigation. If that is the case, then I''m glad I don''t live in Texas.

[hedonist3]

texanforlogi- Good try, but logic doesn''t work with zealots like truthalways.

[honestabe8]

drmaqazi: all well and good, but what has that got to do with this story? they were married, albeit a sham marriage for purposes of welfare fraud.

[texanforlogi]

"let ye who has never sin cast the first stone"


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So why don''t you quit chunking rocks at everyone? But thank you for typing in lower case.

Posted by truthalways at 10:53 AM : Apr 30, 2008

[truthalways]

whgeek

how can you be sure of the ages, when the lawyer is saying they are over 18, even the one giving birth...are we to believe everything the state says to cover their backs...if they have the ages for the men and the girls...WHY CAN''T THEY JUST ARRESTED THE CROOKED MEN??? something is not making sense here...and don''t tell me they are waiting for DNA, coz if you assume the dads are the older men, then you must know who they are and you don''t need DNA tests...

[jwhgeek]

So now what does 60 minutes think of this group? I watched your broadcast last Sunday with interest to see just how you would treat the case, and was disapointed to see how sympathetic you were to this group. Over half of the girls asged 13-18 are pregnant or already have childre or both. Hopefully you will set the record straight on this

[truthalways]

peacedreamer

the girl who made the call, is a 33 yr old balck woman from Arizona..don''t you read the other news??!!

The man accused in the call, Barlow, lives in Arizona..the authorities met him at the Arizona border, questionned him...did not arrest him, despite the warrant meant for him..

Well if they are waiting for DNA, how do they know the fathers are much older already???

[truthalways]

parents fight for your rights before it''s too late!!

go to and support Parentalrights.org

http://www.parentalrights.org/blog/courts-the-law/we-can-not-trust-the-parents

If it is that easy for the state to take 463 kids at one time based on a phony call and lots of hearsays..and assumptions...there is no evdience that is why they cannot arrest the men!!!

Imagine how easy will it be to take your kids!!

[peacedreamer-2009]

Why haven''t they arrested the pedophile men from the community yet? Because they are waiting for the DNA tests to provide absolute evidence of their crimes. As for the allegations that all the other facts of the case are fraudulent, the girl who made the complaint is now missing...that speaks for itself. If the men were innocent, why would they have to hide the girl who made the call?

[truthalways]

state is saying:

WE CANNOT TRUST PARENTS

Implicit or explicit in the arguments of greater government intrusion in families is that we can%u2019t trust parents (e.g. the debate over homeschooling in California). Never said but always implicit in those arguments is that government can always be trusted with children without check.

When anyone says that we should abandon the fundamental right of parents in favor of the %u201Cbest interest of the child%u201D they are saying that parents cannot be trusted and government can.

The law%u2019s concept of the family rests on a presumption that parents possess what a child lacks in maturity, experience, and capacity for judgment required for making life%u2019s difficult decisions. More important, historically it has recognized that natural bonds of affection lead parents to act in the best interests of their children.

[truthalways]

Parents stand up for your rights...this case is just about taking away parental rights and govt control..

Quoting CPS director:

"a child born to a ward of the state becomes a ward of the state also"

What is state ward??? state property???!!!

I agree with punishing those who abuse kids..but no one has been arrested...menaing all this is bogus...they are assuming ages here..we don''t realy know..all I see is the taking away of parental rights...viloting the constitution..supporting the govt to do this being parents is not a smart thing to do...it could come back at you...your never know..

Please go to this site and see what kind of laws is being passed to take away your parental rights

http://www.parentalrights.org/blog/courts-the-law/we-can-not-trust-the-parents

State is saying:

[truthalways]

truthalways: I will pray for you. You need to put Jesus and love in your heart.

Posted by texanforlogi

texanforlogi why don''t you let the Lord come into yours and let His love flow into yours since you are sitting on the judgement seat and taking His place!

You are casting stone at your neighbors based on hearsay...while the world around you is full of sinfulness

[cpaide]

you don''''t know ANYTHING except the false allegations (not facts) by the inept investigators.

the phone call that initiated the raid was proven to be false. the woman responsible has been arrested and charged with making a false police report.

the allegations of a 50-year-old man having $3x with a 14-year-old girl have proven to be a story made up by one of the investigators who is no longer on the case.

the allegations of a 50-year-old man raping and abusing a 14-year-old girl have proven to be a story made up by an investigator who is no longer on the case.

the allegations of a bed in the temple with "disturbed sheets" and "what appears to be a female hair" have been disproven likewise.

no criminal charges have been filed, and none are anticipated. that is because there is NO EVIDENCE of any criminal activity, period.

however, the standards of "evidence" for civil matters (such as child custody) are low, low, low. basically, any allegation that investigators pretend can be partially substantiated by another accusation (no matter how tenuous) is treated as being true, until months later when the people''''s lives have been ruined for no good reason.

case closed. let the mormons go back home.

[truthalways]

They''''re pointing the finger at FLDS because some are accused of having s3x with minors. Isn''''t that one of the sins on your list?

DISPLEASED

if this is the case, why haven''t they arrested the older men yet??? just curious...usually in such cases they arrest the perpetrator and take the chidren away, especially when they have so much evidence like cps is saying!!! It''s time to get your brain to start working Displeased, since you gobble up all the stories on the media...

[jerr11]

This polygamist sect is just a pretext to commit pedophilia with impunity by dirty old men.

Like that other great pretext of our time.

To use a national tragedy on 9/11 to start a war of greed for Halliburton''s stockholders and ******** Cheney''s bottomline.