Analyzing The Proliferation Of Therapy

Freud's Ideas Have Gone From The Butt Of Jokes To Mainstream Acceptance — How Do You Feel About That?

(CBS)  It's been more than a hundred years since Sigmund Freud introduced psychoanalysis, and today therapy has gone from the fringe to the fabric of popular American culture. From pills to brain scans to plain old talking, just what is it about therapy? Jeff Greenfield joins us to talk about it.

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When Tony Soprano started therapy almost a decade ago, he took a sizeable real-life demographic with him into the doctor's office: Middle-class, blue-collar men who would otherwise never have gone.

"I can't tell you how many e-mails I got from therapists around the country saying, 'I got a man to come to therapy who'd never been to therapy before. And he said, if a tough guy like Tony Soprano can do it, then why can't I do it?'" remarked psychiatrist Glen Gabbard of the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.

Dr. Gabbard said his profession - once stigmatized - is now more mainstream than ever. And the proof is everywhere:

On television, pills to treat your every mood-swing are advertised like household products, part of a $25 billion industry.

At your local newsstand, even Consumer Reports - known for rating microwaves and cars - has turned its focus to ranking therapies.

And according to the National Institute of Mental Health, Americans now spend about $100 billion a year on psychological care.

What was once seen as a sign of illness or a character flaw is now widely accepted. By one measure, 91 percent of Americans would seek counseling or advise a friend or family member to do the same.

"What people are finding is that there's a tremendous value in baring your soul to somebody who takes the time to listen, and to relate to you like no one else," said Dr. Gabbard.

The idea of baring your soul to a hired listener began over 100 years ago, with a Viennese doctor named Sigmund Freud.

"He invented the 'talking cure,'" Dr. Maxine Gann said. "The quality of listening to people comes from Freud."

Dr. Gann, from the New York Psychoanalytic Society & Institute, said the quest to explain human psychology is nothing new. In Ancient Greece, people's moods were linked to the balance of bodily fluids.

But throughout history, no one talked about their problems - they were either shipped off to Lourdes or held in quarantine.

Then came Freud, who - in a revolutionary turn - treated conversation as a window into the human mind.

"Before Freud, there were no talking cures," Dr. Gann said. "People used to sort of throw their hands up and say, 'I can't understand what they're talking about. They're crazy!' Well, he took a different vantage point. He said, 'Let's listen.' And that's what a really talented psychoanalytic psychotherapist does."

The New York Psychoanalytic Society & Institute is often described as headquarters for traditional Freudian therapy. It requires extraordinary psychological - not to mention financial - commitment: an hour a day for years at roughly a thousand dollars a week, an expense Woody Allen poked fun at in "Annie Hall":

"I was in analysis. I was suicidal as a matter of fact and would have killed myself, but I was in analysis with a strict Freudian, and, if you kill yourself, they make you pay for the sessions you miss."

Allen was hardly the first to joke about psychoanalysis. Freud's theories - while respectable in Europe - were initially laughed at in America.

Dr. Gabbard points to one example, the 1938 screwball comedy "Bringing Up Baby" which depicts "the classic stereotype psychoanalyst. European accent. Spouting jargon, and he's always wrong! And in these films, American leading men like Jimmy Stewart, Gary Cooper, these guys who have the values of mom, apple pie and the American flag, can solve all the problems. And you really didn't need the buffoon from Europe coming over and spouting jargon to you."

Fast-forward two decades, and another view of psychotherapy emerged with movies like "Psycho," with the reassuring comment, "If anyone can explain this, it's the psychiatrist."

"From 1957 to 1963, you see consistently idealized portrayals of psychiatrists" in popular culture, Gabbard said. "Psycho"'s psychiatrist "explains" Norman Bates' mother fixation as "simply doing everything possible to keep alive the illusion of his mother being alive."

Four decades later, "The Sopranos" depicted what Dr. Gann called "a lot of really good consultation," courtesy of scenes between Tony Soprano and Dr. Jennifer Melfi, played by Lorraine Bracco (left).

"I believe that's because the producer happened to have a brother who was a psychiatrist.

While "The Sopranos" focused on talk therapy, real life mental health care now relies a lot on medication. Over the past five years, more prescriptions have been written for anti-depressants than any other class of drug.

So with all we have learned about the brain - how it really functions - is the whole notion of psychotherapy, the "talking cure," still valid?

More so than ever, says Dr. Gabbard.

"I think it's swinging from a kind of over-medicalization of psychiatry," he said. "I've seen so many patients who've had every drug in the book, and they come to me and say, 'You know, no one ever talked to me for more than ten minutes. Can I tell ya' about what's going on at home with my family?'"

But talking for years about family is contrary to an increasingly popular approach - one that Forbes magazine termed a revolution. It's called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, or CBT.

"We found that the fastest way to get people better, is by focusing on the real life situations they're encountering today," said Dr. Judith Beck. "If we talk a lot about the past, especially initially, patients don't start to feel better, and sometimes they get very hopeless."

Dr. Judith Beck is one of the best-known proponents of CBT, a technique developed by her father, Dr Aaron Beck. With more than twenty books between them, the Becks preach a limited number of sessions, not a life-long commitment. They aim to dispel phobias by rational reasoning, rather than - as Freud would have it - an excavation of childhood.

Dr. Beck believes that insight is not enough: "People can understand what's going on, yet not be able to make the changes in their life that they need to. And I'm not sure what Freud would even say about taking insight to the next step."

Next step or not, which therapy works best? Who would know better than a man who seems to have tried them all?

Comedian Richard Lewis began airing his neuroses publicly more than two decades ago. Yet he was not the typical analysand, stretched out on a couch under the watchful ear of an analyst.

"The only time I have to literally lie down like I was waiting for a masseuse to come, it was at this Freudian doctor back in the early '70s in the hospital," Lewis told Greenfield. "And I never liked that because I always felt she was not even looking at me, and like, you know, reading a novel , 'cause she wasn't talking."

But there's a serious side to Lewis, who's written about his battles with the demons of depression and alcoholism. He credits therapy for his sobriety over the last 14 years.

"I have a bottomless pit of horrific memories!" he laughed. "If I had any gift, it's to mine all these problems. And when I hear people laughing over the last 38 years, I see them, you know, giving an elbow to their significant other saying, 'You see? You see? You know?'"

In the intervening 38 years, he was more in therapy than out of it.

"Yes," Lewis said. "I have a therapist. I've outlived most of them. I went to almost every possible type of therapy. I was fortunate that since I started I had four or five really good therapists."

For most of us, it may not take five therapists, or any of the products advertised on TV. But a century after Freud introduced an obscure theory in Europe, therapy is now part of the American mainstream.

[hypnotoad72]

It''s been said all Freud did was talk about s#x.

Does that mean he used his couch for what we think he used it for? ;)

[marine1957]

10 WAYS AMERICA COULD BE BETTER
1. If everyone was raised on a FARM
2. If ACCOUNTING was a required subject in school
3. If ARGUMENTATION AND DEBATE was a required course
4. If MARRIAGE AND FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS was a required course
5. If schools had a %u201CIF YOU DON%u2019T PASS YOU DON%u2019T GRADUATE%u201D rather than lowering the standards
6. If everyone went to COLLEGE
7. If everyone went to CHURCH
8. If every young man served in the MILITARY
9. If there were only STATESMEN instead of politicians
10. If everyone had a yearly PSYCHIATRIC checkup

[marine1957]

10 WAYS AMERICA COULD BE BETTER
1. If everyone was raised on a FARM
2. If ACCOUNTING was a required subject in school
3. If ARGUMENTATION AND DEBATE was a required course
4. If MARRIAGE AND FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS was a required course
5. If schools had a %u201CIF YOU DON%u2019T PASS YOU DON%u2019T GRADUATE%u201D rather than lowering the standards
6. If everyone went to COLLEGE
7. If everyone went to CHURCH
8. If every young man served in the MILITARY
9. If there were only STATESMEN instead of politicians
10. If everyone had a yearly PSYCHIATRIC checkup

[docadams3]

I don''t know who researched the headline, but it''s wrong. Freud is mainstream in pop culture, but not in professional circles. His constructs have become a joke because they are jokes, like fairies and witches, they have no reality or observable qualities. They''re nonsense.

[firststate]

"The idea of bearing your soul to a hired listener began over 100 years ago, with a Viennese doctor named Sigmund Freud."
Baring your soul might work better.

[jjreports]

Therapy segment was done very well. Now we need a CBS
to conduct a story on how the BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COMMUNITY IS USE AS TOOL TO VIOLATE AMERICANS CIVIL RIGHTS.I AM A INSIDER CONDUCTING SUCH A INVESTIGATION.
"LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPORT." 60 MIN. HAS TOUCH ON THE PROBLEM.

[prmmnonocere]

Let''s explode a few myths. Psychiatrists - remember, it has an "r" in it, as in "Rx," - are trained physicians who specialize in the "bio-psycho-social" approach, a comprehensive understanding of the person that includes not only the person''s present distress but all the factors that went into that, including their genetic heritage, what other illnesses they may have and what other medications they''re taking, as well as how they were raised, what''s happened to them thus far, who''s in their life and whom do they want to be in their life, and their hopes and aspirations for themselves and their children. It might include how they''re doing vocationally and financially, and what their level of education is. It includes a discussion of their sleep and appetite, their concentration, their level of self-esteem, and how they relate to others. It involves a direct evaluation of their style of communication, their attention, their memory, their articulation, their grounding in reality. These are just some of the things that a psychiatrist will do before initiating therapy - be it talking or taking. See my next entry for more....

[prmmnonocere]

Let''s explode a few myths. Psychiatrists - remember, it has an "r" in it, as in "Rx," - are trained physicians who specialize in the "bio-psycho-social" approach, a comprehensive understanding of the person that includes not only the person''s present distress but all the factors that went into that, including their genetic heritage, what other illnesses they may have and what other medications they''re taking, as well as how they were raised, what''s happened to them thus far, who''s in their life and whom do they want to be in their life, and their hopes and aspirations for themselves and their children. It might include how they''re doing vocationally and financially, and what their level of education is. It includes a discussion of their sleep and appetite, their concentration, their level of self-esteem, and how they relate to others. It involves a direct evaluation of their style of communication, their attention, their memory, their articulation, their grounding in reality. These are just some of the things that a psychiatrist will do before initiating therapy - be it talking or taking. See my next entry for more....

[sueneely]

Thank you for your article on the victimization of American people in their quest for the ever more elusive myths of mental health. I don''t think that people should be lured into believing that moods should not exist.
The real address to postitive mental health may be a reversion to truth which would definitely include turning off the television and other mainstream media that purports reality to far too many people.

Freud was NOT a happy man. The escalation of the fraud, his aberrant ideas on which some of psychology is based,is unfathomable.

Many physicians and associates have been enamored by the powerful pharmaceutical companies and have failed to keep their Hippocratic oath, "First do no harm".

[prinzowhales]

So...Doctor Gabard...you have a patient coming into your office because a certain HBO soap opera character is in therapy on the tube?...Let me see if if we can find the root of this fellow''s problems.... Duhhhhhhhhh.....

[hermitdave]

It is called clever massive marketing or pure BS to the smarter humans among us. Those of us that remember when doctors and lawyers did not advertise, understand and feel your pain. Take two aspirin and call us in the morning.

[edmatth]

Psychotherapy, particularly as practiced at the Baylor Psychiatry Clinc which Dr Gabbard heads, is life-enhancing, and in many cases, life-saving. These folks do what they do because they care about people. I have been the fortunate beneficiary of enormous effort, skill, compassion, and time. With all due respect to Dr Beck, it seems to me that real healing of a human mind, heart, and soul is about more than rational thought and efficiency. It''s ultimately a matter of love.

[jbright9]

I am a school counselor in a building with 500 first, second and third graders. Parents call me daily asking me to see their children about a variety of issues. The number of parent requests for counseling for their children has increased ten fold in the twenty five years that I have worked as a counselor. Most children benefit from having a caring adult take some time listening to them and I very much enjoy helping but sometimes I am asked to visit with children about things that could easily be handled within the family. I am not sure if this shows a lack of confidence in their parenting skills or is another sign of just how stressed parents are and this is one other thing that they can out source.

[hermitdave]

jbright9 perhaps if adults had not decided it would be fun and a great idea to rob children of their childhood. If we could somehow go back to the "where did you go out what did you do nothing generation", we would have many more happy kids.

[jjarden]

Many of Freud''s Theories were right on and what he accomplished in his life and passed on to us has tremendous value. Those who think otherwise really do not know Freud and his theories. Psychotherapists and Psychoanalysts are like Lawyers...They are disliked, ridiculed and misunderstood UNTIL the day that someone NEEDS them.

Everything we THINK, SAY, and DO is done to satisfy either a Biological OR Psychological NEED, and when it comes to satisfying our PSYCHOLOGICAL NEEDS most people DO NOT HAVE A CLUE as to WHAT those needs are that they are trying to satisfy, and WHY they THINK, SAY, and DO what they do. That is where a Psychotherapist and Psychoanalyst can help. Every single person out there can benefit from Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis, and those who think otherwise NEED it the MOST.

[arlt1627]

Posted by Marine1957 at 11:25 AM : Apr 27, 2008

I''d certainly agree with the vast majority of these!!

[JeffP1]

In reply to PrmmNoNocere: Josef Mengele had the same idea about psychiatry as you have. His contribution to humanity will eventually be duplicated as psychiatry gets a stronger hold on mankind.

[JeffP1]

In reply to PrmmNoNocere: Josef Mengele had the same idea about psychiatry as you have. His contribution to humanity will unfortunately be duplicated as psychiatry gets a stronger hold on mankind.

[JeffP1]

In reply to PrmmNoNocere: Josef Mengele (Angel of Death) had the same idea about psychiatry as you have. His contribution to humanity will unfortunately be duplicated as psychiatry gets a stronger strangle hold on mankind.

[JeffP1]

In reply to PrmmNoNocere: Josef Mengele (Angel of Death) had some of the same thoughts about psychiatry as you have. His contribution to humanity will unfortunately be duplicated as psychiatry gets a stronger strangle hold on mankind.

[JeffP1]

Josef Mengele (Angel of Death) hung his psychiatry shingle out in some of the most infamous death camps of Hitler''s Germany. His contribution to humanity will unfortunately be duplicated as psychiatry gets a stronger strangle hold on mankind. There is a solution to man''s depressions, anxieties, etc. other than psychotropic drugs, hypnotism or electric shock therapies. One only needs to be brave enough to look for the alternative then he or she will find it.

[helenlcsw]

I am a cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist specializing in the treatment of the anxiety disorders and depression. I would like to clarify a few misperceptions that have been expressed here.Psychiatrists are no longer trained in psychotherapy, none that I know of in CBT;their expertise is in psychiatric evaluation and medication.

CBT therapists are not the same as those working in psychoanalysis, medication management, or traditional talk therapy (although at times medication is used as a last resort or as an adjunct to CBT). CBT is not traditional talk therapy; it is solution oriented, focused, time effective therapy with a beginning, a middle, and an end. In my experience, through addressing the anxiety issues, the depression clears up, often without any medication at all. Not all therapists are trained in CBT. Breath management and cognitive restructuring are the essential tools used in CBT to address anxiety issues.
HelenLCSW

[gurusavant]

seems strangely like: after his initial mega failure (eel research) he was tremendously invested in making a monumental name for himself. can''t imagine out of what context he, (after dissecting eels?!) and that on his own he would foundationally develop such an expansive and ''fundamental'' theory. for a lay person THAT seems a little too far fetched. where does deception fall in place in his psychoanalysis?

[betmoss]

Analysis is an important part of recovery from mental disorders, however, Self Help groups are also an important part. This was not mentioned and I feel it should have been. I became ill in 1982 and found Recovery Inc. (now Recovery Int.) in 1983. I went to my Authority (doctor) once a month. I had my self-help group each week to help also. It worked with my authority and I learned to like myself, trust the guidance of my doctor and it gave my the courage to be patient and encouraged to to open about my illness and not be ashamed. I am a better person because of the medical help and the self-help I received.