April 26, 2008

Sect's Kids Face Upheaval Of Foster Care

Child Psychologist Discusses Challenges Facing Children Of Polygamist Sect — And The Foster Parents Caring For Them

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(CBS)  It's been more than three weeks now since Texas police raided a ranch run by a polygamist sect and took 462 children away from their parents.

The court of appeals rejected the mothers' pleas against keeping the children from being bused to foster homes. The question on everyone's minds is, what kind of impact does this have on the children now housed with foster parents, many of them hundreds of miles from the ranch?

The separation of kids and parents has raised serious concern about the children's psychological well-being.

"It's confusing and scary for any kids to be removed from their home and put in foster care," Dr. Lisa Boesky, a child psychologist in San Diego and author of "When to Worry: How to Tell If Your Teen Needs Help - And What to Do About It" (Amaom), said on The Early Show.

But in the case of the children taken from the FLDS compound in Eldorado, "It's ten-fold, because they have never been on the outside and [have] been told people are wicked, evil, out to hurt them. Now they are being forced to live in foster care."

Early Show host Chris Wragge pointed out that these children, who have grown up being home-schooled and away from television and other influences of the world outside their sect's walls, are being transplanted to an environment completely foreign to them.

"It's interesting because foster parents are usually good with dealing with angry, oppositional youth, not overly-compliant youth or well-mannered youth, youth who want to do chores, clean house, go to school and pray," Boesky said.

To that end, authorities are educating foster parents that they should not confront any of the youth's beliefs. "They should really not force TV, fast-food, or any kind of electronics on them, and to really take it slow and really let the kids kind of guide the way," she said.

"I think, day by day, they slowly will let their guard down and trust the foster parents and let us know about what did or did not happen in that compound."

As difficult as it must be for the children, the foster parents who are being charged with caring for them face some significant challenges.

"They are not allowed to wear the color red," Boesky said, because the children have been taught that wearing red is forbidden. "The food, they have to change it, actually eat a little more healthy. Toys and games that usually win over regular foster children aren't working right now.

"I think these foster parents, their hearts are in the right place. They are trying to give these kids the time it takes to open up," she said. "As long as they continue to support them and nurture them - and foster parents are really good at doing that - I think the kids are resilient and it will be okay."

How the children will weather this traumatic time, and what lasting effects it may have on their emotional well-being, depends on what happens next. A quick reunification with their families will auger best.

"The difficult thing will be if there's some youth held long-term or permanently removed from their families," Boesky said. "I think if some kids are returned and I do believe many will be returned to their families, I do think the families will have to be educated on what is appropriate sexual behavior, appropriate discipline, and have to be monitored to make sure they stick with that, to make sure their kids aren't removed again."

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by michellem99-2009 April 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
Ye haven''t..WELL they run them off as the old men see them as a treat..that bs. We as a nation have become sexx,baby,gun crazy...
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by cpaide April 28, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
i recommend the following good and honest study for more information on the filthy violent nature of the KLK (krazy lesbians kult) which is trying to obtain control of the mormon children:

No More Secrets : Violence in Lesbian Relationships
http://www.amazon.com/No-
More-Secrets-Violence-Relationships/dp/0
415929466/
"This study of abuse in lesbian relationships looks you in the eye and dares you to turn away. Far from being a prurient study of a fringe group of violent lesbians, this book demands that the queer community at large--afraid of straight disdain --recognize its accountability. No More Secrets illustrates that despite what many lesbian feminists believe, acts of violence are not committed solely by men."
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by cpaide April 28, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
Krazy Lesbians Kult (KLK):

"A lesbian sect generally considered to be Extremist or False, with it''s followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of one or more Authoritarian, Charismatic leaders. Obsessive, especially faddish devotion to or veneration for a person, principle or thing."
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by cpaide April 28, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
It appears that many people are being mind-managed by the KLK (krazy lesbians kult), which conspired to provide a false police report that resulted in the raid on the Texas Mormons.

The objective of the KLK (whose members include the Texas social workers and judge on the case) is to obtain the humble, white Mormon children and adopt them out to infertile lesbian couples, and that is happening right now.

Once these kids are in the hands of the KLK, they''re told there is no such thing as too early for ***. Whenever the head lesbian tells them to go ''marry'' an old lesbian, that''s who they''re given to. They''re groomed to be pedophile fodder. Information presented shows that they''re given to be concubines (not wives - lesbians can''t have wives) at puberty or before, and have un-natural $ex while still children themselves.
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by banddad April 28, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
truthalways, I didn''t see them. And the story only focused on the girls and little ones.

Why?
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by truthalways April 28, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
There were 3 dozens of teenage boys sent to state facilities earlier..when the kids were taken in the first place...This is where they are!!!
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by banddad April 28, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
Where are the teenage boys? We hear about the girls and see young boys ranging in age from 3-11, but do not see or hear about the older boys.
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by kattyclayz April 28, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
I just DON''T understand why it would be SO BAD if these kids were put back into the care of their mothers. And as DrWatson7 said, take out the men and let the women and children go back. Then if the women decide that they want to go out into the world and introduce their children to it, they can.
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by drwatson7 April 28, 2008 4:47 AM EDT
Why not return the kids and mothers to the FLDS compound and remove the MEN? It seems it would be far easier to house the men away from the compound rather than find foster homes for over 400 children. The men seem to be the root of the problem. Let them move out, rather than disrupting over 400 kids.
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by mrsmiggins-2009 April 28, 2008 2:59 AM EDT
With regard to exposing the FLDS children to our mainstream culture...

Does anyone else recall how grotesque it was to watch little Elian Gonzales be paraded out in his little electric car, or with new video games and toys...as if to say that these things could replace the presence of a father in his life?

I''m not afraid to say that mainstream culture is garbage. Reality TV, pornography everywhere, junk food, kids who don''t know how to find their own country on a map, school massacres, girls beating each other up on YouTube...I don''t have to go on, do I? And this is what we want those FDLS kids to adapt and fit into?
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by erasmus81 April 27, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
I still say the best thing to do is give the children back to their mothers and give them a place to live SEPARATELY. And then if they go back to the way they were before THEN take the children away.

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by nothappyatall April 27, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
pointed out that these children, who have grown up being home-schooled and away from television and other influences of the world outside their sect''s walls, are being transplanted to an environment completely foreign to them."

WHich goes to show the ''saving'' is doing way more damage than had they left them alone in their own little community world.


"They are not allowed to wear the color red, Boesky said, because the children have been taught that wearing red is forbidden."

They were taught a lot of stupid things like that I''m sure, just like we are taught 13 is unlucky and you rarely find any highrise buildings with a designated 13th floor, or that breaking a mirror brings bad luck, or walking under a ladder does.
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by fibonacci_ April 27, 2008 8:42 AM EDT
cptnproton, my intellect is in all probability vastly superior to yours. You must be a little religious brain.
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by cptnproton April 27, 2008 8:33 AM EDT
fibonacci_ - "Religion is for little brains."

And troll like comments for yet littler brains.
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by fibonacci_ April 27, 2008 5:55 AM EDT
EVIDENCE.
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by fibonacci_ April 27, 2008 5:54 AM EDT
The point is, even in science with so called "evidence" there are a lot of unknowns that are repeatedly challenged, repudiated and sometimes in later centuries scrapped. To ask for evidence as you measure of proof would negate many of the things even science now touts.

Posted by b-easy63

This it the great thing about science! That is very different from religion where you say: This is how it is and do not dare question it. Religion is for idiots. And there is plenty of evidence (overwhelming) concerning the distance of the sun. And what is this about a 4th dimension? Time? What are you even talking about?

Religion is for little brains.
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by rudy654-2009 April 27, 2008 4:28 AM EDT
Posted by excoachken at 09:45 PM

Sorry, but where has CPS been all these years that this group has been around?? They have found no proof of abuse, except for what CPS claims are dangerous beliefs. So no, pure upheaval is wrong, it is violation of our constitution and I am just shocked at how willing you all are to sacrifice our Constitution for you misplaced hatred of this group. I don''t like this group. I would argue against their beliefs. But no, I don''t believe in taking their children away based on a lie from a woman who is a known liar.
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by headpop2 April 27, 2008 1:27 AM EDT
But it won''t look like a black hole. Its fields won''t be that strong. Light will bend around it, but won''t be trapped by it.
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by headpop2 April 27, 2008 1:26 AM EDT
Our sun is one of the wimps of the universe. Not at all a big, or violent star. But when it burns out, it''ll wind up about the size of Pluto. Although with just as much, if not more, gravitational pull. Because it''ll be much smaller, and thereby more focal with its gravitational fields. The currents will be far more powerful when it dies.
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by headpop2 April 27, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
You see, objects can only be so big before gravity starts to have too much of an influence on its existance. Stars, when they burn out, lose alot of their ability to maintain their enormous existance, and shrink. Like it were a garbage compactor. And as they shrink, its like the drain of a tub, the gravitational fields just get stronger and stronger and stronger. Until eventually it can''t be compacted no more. A limit beyond the scope of light.. that makes them look like holes.
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