Clinton: "Tide Is Turning" After Pa. Win

N.Y. Senator Gets Crucial Victory In Keystone State; Race Moves On To Indiana, North Carolina

(CBS/AP) 
Voters' loyalty to their chosen candidate was high, as more than six in ten (62 percent) Clinton voters said they would not be satisfied if Obama ended up the Democratic nominee, and more than half of Obama voters (52 percent) said they would not be satisfied if Clinton won the nomination. Overall, 71 percent of Pennsylvania Democrats would be satisfied if Clinton were the nominee, while 64 percent would be satisfied with Obama.

CBS News political consultant Monika McDermott said that the biggest story of the evening "may be the polarized electorate that turned out to vote. Pennsylvania's Democratic primary results, while smaller than the lead Sen. Hillary Clinton once had over Sen. Barack Obama in the state, show an electorate consistently divided on factors like education, race and income and also newly divided along religious lines. (Click here to read McDermott's complete analysis)

Obama had a delegate lead of 1,710-1,584 in the latest CBS News count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination. (Click here for state-by-state tallies.)

The six-week run-up to the primary was notable for close-to-the-ground campaigning normally reserved for the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, and for the decidedly negative tone of its final few days.

Flush with cash, Obama reported spending $11.2 million on television in the state, compared with $4.8 million for Clinton. (See the latest campaign finance reports.)

The tone of the campaign was increasingly personal.

"In the last 10 years Barack Obama has taken almost $2 million from lobbyists, corporations and PACs. The head of his New Hampshire campaign is a drug company lobbyist, in Indiana an energy lobbyist, a casino lobbyist in Nevada," said a Clinton commercial that aired in the final days of the race.

Obama responded with an ad that accused Clinton of "eleventh-hour smears paid for by lobbyist money." It said that unlike his rival, he "doesn't take money from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists - not one dime."

To the delight of Republicans, the six-week layoff between primaries produced a string of troubles for the Democrats.

Obama was forced onto the defensive by incendiary comments by his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, then triggered controversy on his own by saying small-town Americans cling to guns and religion because of their economic hardships.

Clinton conceded that she had not landed under sniper fire in Bosnia while first lady, even though she said several times that she had. And she replaced her chief strategist, Mark Penn, after he met with officials of the Colombian government seeking passage of a free trade agreement that she opposes.

McCain, the Republican nomination already his, rose in the polls as he prepared for the fall campaign.

The CBS News early exit polls show that the majority of Pennsylvania Democrats said they would rally behind whoever becomes the Democratic nominee. They would back Obama over McCain (73 percent to 15 percent) and would support Clinton over McCain by an even wider margin (81 percent to 11 percent).

Twenty-five percent of Clinton voters in the Democratic primary say they would support McCain in the general election, while 53 percent would back Obama and 18 percent won't vote. Among Obama voters, 16 percent say they would vote for McCain, while 69 percent would side with Clinton and 13 percent won't vote.

The remaining Democratic contests are primaries in North Carolina, Indiana, Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota and Puerto Rico, and caucuses in Guam.

[zavatchen]

Hillary Clinton ahead in popular vote ABC reports. Both Michigan and Florida are counted, as they should be, considering the huge role they play in the general. O''Bama is not able to close the deal on the Democratic nomination and that does not bode well for the general election. He has been unable to gain the constituencies that will be vital to winning the general election and lest us not forget the Hispanic vote for Hillary Clinton. Also, consider that most of O''Bama''s wins have been in small western states that will most likely go Republican and in other states where he has won, the electoral votes are small. Hillary Clinton has won the big states with large electoral votes.

[tbweb]

The United States has over 300 million citizens and we are more than endless doses of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton! Bush/Clinton fatigue is real, its time for a real change!

[txgrouch2004]

fairandbal wrote:

Hillary, get a clue! ...it''''s over! you need to quit.

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Well, at least we agree about that. I think it ended when she told us she shot a duck. Speaking of dead ducks, stick a fork in Hillary''s campaign, I think it''s done.

[txgrouch2004]

bud28dy wrote:

In the awfuly chance that Obama becomes Commander in Chief, he had better never declare war on a country run by a woman. Apparently women can easily kick his as''''s.

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OK - if you call it "kicking" when HE''S AHEAD IN THE DELEGATE COUNT and Hillary will have to RUN HER OWN OFF to have any hope of catching up. BUY A CLUE!!!

[txgrouch2004]

fairandbal (yah, right) wrote:

Yeah, the guy who''''s singing ''''bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran! bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran!''''

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Guess what - Hillary isn''t a GUY!!! She said "attack Iran."

Or maybe she misspoke again. Like her support for attacking Iraq...

[fairandbal]

When it''''s time to make the tough choices about the Iraq war - do you want a desk jockey with 0 MILITARY SERVICE OF ANY KIND, or someone who''''s actually BEEN IN A WAR and might know a thing or two about the subject???

It''''''''s really THAT SIMPLE.



Posted by txgrouch2004 at 06:28 PM : Apr 23, 2008


Yeah, the guy who''s singing ''bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran! bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran!'' His military intelligence shows really really well in that context. That makes sense.

[fairandbal]

Do we want another BABY BOOMER in the White House? Or do we want JOHN MCCAIN?

It''''s really THAT SIMPLE.

Posted by txgrouch2004 at 06:23 PM : Apr 23, 2008


You''ll really do well in November with that campaign slogan. I can see now how the GOP is so bankrupt on ideas if their people buy such simpleton arguments.
it''s good for a laugh anyway. Pick a guy who''s older than dirt and showing every bit of his age as he forgets who''s really fighting in Iraq or he''s forgetting lines to his speaches. That''ll go over well.

[fairandbal]

Hillary, get a clue! There is NO momentum left. You have to win 70% of the remaining delegates to have a chance. Not possible. it''s over! you need to quit.

CBS and the rest of the corporate media need to stop taking in the Clinton spin. It''s over. Give it up. there''s NO race.

[lindaredtail]

I know they say police also have that strange sense of humor sometimes to relieve tension. What tension did he have at the moment he was singing? I can see it in legitimate circumstances. But McCain''s been talking to people and groups for over 20 years. He should not have been nervous. I just don''t believe it was appropriate. And some of his supporters (one in particular-Lindsay Graham) has been talking about bombing Iran. It doesn''t seem to me that he''s that same man anymore. He''s capitulating too much to the far right wing of his party. In 2000 I would have considered him. But not now. His position on Iraq is to me just as bad. The hundred year comment didn''t make me happy either.

[bud28dy]

In the awfuly chance that Obama becomes Commander in Chief, he had better never declare war on a country run by a woman. Apparently women can easily kick his as''s.

[txgrouch2004]

Bill Clinton: 0 military service
George W Bush: flew single-seat jet fighter aircraft in the National Guard, but never saw combat
Hillary Clinton: 0 military service
Barack Obama: 0 military service

John McCain: flew jet fighter aircraft in combat, was shot down and taken prisoner of war, was tortured for 2 years by the enemy, cracked under torture and revealed the names of the members of the Green Bay Packers football team.

When it''s time to make the tough choices about the Iraq war - do you want a desk jockey with 0 MILITARY SERVICE OF ANY KIND, or someone who''s actually BEEN IN A WAR and might know a thing or two about the subject???

It''''s really THAT SIMPLE.

[txgrouch2004]

montanaman9 wrote:

Let''''s see, we''''ve had a Bush or a Clinton in the Oval Office for the last 20 years.....together, they are responsible for where America is today, and there is no denying it.....She wants this so bad she''''ll say or do anything...America, WAKE UP, we don''''t need another Clinton!! OMG, we are in deep do-do

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Right you are. And we''ve had a BABY BOOMER in the Oval Office for 16 of those years:

Bill Clinton: born 1946
George W Bush: born 1946
Hillary Clinton: born 1947
Barack Obama: born 1961

John McCain: born 1936

Do we want another BABY BOOMER in the White House? Or do we want JOHN MCCAIN?

It''s really THAT SIMPLE.

[txgrouch2004]

Oh, the "tide is turning" all right. And it''s been LOW TIDE AT THE BEACH for WAY TOO LING. What a stink!

BTW, Hillary, DON''T PUT DOWN YOUR BEACH BLANKET on the seaweed - the tide will... umm NEVERMIND! Heh, heh, heh, stupid bimbo...

[txgrouch2004]

So Hillary won that crucial vote in Pennsylvania. And on the news, as expected, there''''s Hillary. But instead of looking relieved that she wasn%u2019t packing her bags and going home (yet), there she is %u2013 acting like her close brush with political disaster was some kind of TRIUMPH. Sorta like that high school student who is cheering and celebrating for getting a D minus on the big test. %u201CHey, everybuddy! I DIDN%u2019T GET AN F!!!%u201D Hooray for Hillary. And did you hear? She shot a duck.

[sharncedar]

The tide is turning all right but its all full of garbage ... eeeewwww

[mjvw2]

Clinton: "Tide Is Turning"

In twice a day...out twice a day

[montanaman9]

Let''s see, we''ve had a Bush or a Clinton in the Oval Office for the last 20 years.....together, they are responsible for where America is today, and there is no denying it.....She wants this so bad she''ll say or do anything...America, WAKE UP, we don''t need another Clinton!! OMG, we are in deep do-do

[blackspirit3]

Barack Obama%u2019s supporters have a new talking point: Their man won Texas. Final results aren%u2019t expected to be released until June 5, when Texas Democrats meet for their convention, but early returns indicate that Obama won more delegates in Texas than challenger Hillary Clinton, thanks to a dual nominating process. Clinton narrowly won the Texas primary, and Obama resoundingly won the Texas caucus. Forbes partner Real Clear Politics gives Obama a five-delegate edge over Clinton in Texas, with 99 delegates to her 94.

[lindaredtail]

I might call McCain McBomb only because of what he sang. I don''t associate him with Adolph Hitler. It is unfair to associate Barack Obama with Osama Bin Ladin and it''s not right either. As a matter of fact he''s said more than once that we need to go after Bin Ladin as the one who attacked America. Obama has never been associated in any way with Al Queda nor any other terrorist group. All of this is just untruthful typical politics of personal destruction which have no basis in reality. It''s like saying clinton picked Lewinsky to be with her husband. It''s all absurd and ridiculous.

[broncfan1661]

Posted by abbe91 at 01:44 PM : Apr 23, 2008
What should he do ? Refuse the support of half of the congress ?
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Well, he could start by not trying to claim to be non establishment while trying to brand his opponents as such. He is just as much establishment as they are.
Also, he can quit bragging about not taking money from lobbyist and pacs. We all know that is illegal and none of the candidates are doing it. He is however taking a lot of money from bundlers. these are CEO''s and other major officers of Oil companies and other large corporations who collect money (Up to $2300 each) and give it to the campaign. I have seen this in action. What junior exec is going to say no to the boss? "Yes Sir! Here''s $2300 from me and another $2300 from my wife." They are all doing it and he is too. So he can quit using the GOP tactics of claiming to be different.