JERUSALEM, April 21, 2008
Carter: Hamas Ready To "Live" With Israel
Ex-President Says U.S., Israel Must Talk To Militant Group, Which Accepts Two-State Solution
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Former President Jimmy Carter, accompanied by his wife Rosalynn, is seen upon arriving at Queen Alia International airport, in Amman, Jordan, Sunday, April 20, 2008. (AP Photo/Jamal Nasrallah)
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Khaled Mashaal, head of the Hamas politburo, is seen in this March 1, 2008 file photo. Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter met with Mashaal, the group's exiled leader, in Damascus, Syria, on Friday, April 18, 2008. (AP Photo/Bassem Tellawi)
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Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)
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His comments came after he met last week with the top Hamas leaders in Syria.
Carter also said Hamas won't undermine Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' efforts to reach a peace deal with Israel. He said Hamas is ready to accept a Palestinian state made of the West Bank and Gaza.
Carter made the comments during a speech in Jerusalem on Monday.
The former U.S. president also said it's a "problem" that Israel and the U.S. refuse to meet with Hamas.
"The problem is not that I met with with Hamas in Syria," he said. "The problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to meet with someone who must be involved."
Carter also said Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking has "regressed" since a U.S.-hosted Mideast conference in Annapolis, Maryland, in November.
Speaking about the possibility of renewed peace talks between Israel and Syria, he said Syria wants the U.S. to play a "strong role" in bringing to two sides together.
He also said Hamas has promised to let captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit send a letter to his parents.
The State Department twice advised Carter against meeting Hamas leaders before he left on his Mideast trip early last week. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice criticized Carter's plans to meet Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal in Syria. It was the first public contact in two years between a prominent American figure and Hamas' leadership
Several members of Congress also urged Carter not to meet Mashaal, saying it would confer legitimacy on the group behind some 250 suicide bombings against Israelis that have killed numerous civilians.
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But Carter, who brokered the 1978 Israeli-Egyptian peace and won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002, defended what he called his personal peace mission, saying Hamas must be engaged in order to achieve Israeli-Palestinian peace. The problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to meet with someone who must be involved.
Jimmy CarterThe United States designated Hamas a terrorist organization in January 1995, which made it a violation to conduct any financial or business transaction with the group.
Shortly after Hamas claimed responsibility for an August 19, 2003 suicide bombing in Jerusalem that killed 20 people including four U.S. citizens, the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control named a number of Hamas leaders as "specially designated global terrorists." They included Mashaal and Abu Marzouk and the designation made it illegal to conduct any transactions with them.
Israel also brands Hamas a terrorist organization and has accused Mashaal of masterminding the kidnapping of Shalit near Gaza two years ago. Israel has also blamed Mashaal and the group's Damascus-based leadership of directing suicide bombings such as the September 2004 attacks that killed 16 Israelis in the southern city of Beersheba.
Israel tried to kill Mashaal in 1997, when agents sprayed him with poison on a street in Amman. Jordan's late King Hussein, who had signed peace with Israel in 1994, forced Israel to send the antidote that saved his life.
Afterward, Jordan expelled Mashaal to Qatar as the kingdom's ties with Hamas deteriorated, and he moved to Damascus in 1999.
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See all 237 CommentsUnder the Islamic doctrine of Al-Taqqiyeh, lying to non-Moslem infidels is not only permitted, it''s ENCOURAGED.
Lying to infidels isn''t a sin. It''s a virtue.
Hamas had Carter wrapped around their little fingers. He was a weakling dealing the Tehran hostage crisis and he hasn''t changed one iota.
He has never gained one iota on this issue. If there is one human on this earth who Islam holds in contempt, it is Jimmy Carter, who left our embassy staff sit and rot in Tehran, in the most brazen display of his impotence, exceeding even his fuels lines, while OPEC took America''s fuel policy away from him.
Posted by juwboy
people like "juwboy" are hypocrites. They would preserve their rights but deny others theirs.
They quote "islamic doctrines" to justify the most un-American action imaginable, that is to deny a mans right to his land and his home - and to try explaining it by relegating these men and women to some kind of a second-class "islamic" sub-human specie.
The "opinions" of such people are worthless bigotry and I tell you this to your face - juwboy - and if you are one, you''ve learned nothing from your peoples history.
Posted by kesac4650
easy to critize but facts are facts dude and Carter is the only one who has brokered real peace between israel and a neighbor.
i believe judgement should be based on results and again, Carter has had them.
"Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us."
Albert Einstein
"...If we had invested in the Arab problem one tenth of the energy, the passion, the ingenuity, the resourcefulness which we developed in order to gain the support of Britain, France, the US and Weimar Germany, our destiny in the development of Israel may have been quite different... We were not ready for compromises; we did not make sufficient efforts to get, if not the full agreement of the Arabs, at least their acquiescence to a Jewish state, which I think would have been possible. That was the original sin."
Dr. Nahum Goldmann
President of the World Jewish Congress
writing in the New Outlook,
November-December 1974
isn''t it sickening that some so-called americans can accept and even try to justify that an entire palestinian population have their lands and homes taken from them, and when they resist, call them "terrorists"?
do we really share the same "values", as all the pro-israel lobbies have been telling us for decades?
i think not.
Posted by damnedrelign
enlightening post, but wrong. Carter is the ONLY one to ever broker an enduring peace between israel and a neighbor.
shame such idiotic non-factual rantings have to be tolerated - whoever taught you to write should have first taught you to think. that goes especially for the fanatical terror-is-lame.
+ report abuse
The idea of peace in the Middle East scares the dickens out of you freaks doesn''t it? Sieg Heil Bush
In summary, it must be your religious, messianic delusions that made you the continuing failure that you are.
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Posted by damnedrelign at 06:07 AM : Apr 21, 2008
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Typical Nazi! Can''t address the issue or the progress made so??? YOU attack the messenger! Has it occurred to you that Carter has made MORE progress in a week than your fuhrer has made in 7 YEARS?? No? I didn''t think so! Sieg Heil Bush
"Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us."
Albert Einstein
"...If we had invested in the Arab problem one tenth of the energy, the passion, the ingenuity, the resourcefulness which we developed in order to gain the support of Britain, France, the US and Weimar Germany, our destiny in the development of Israel may have been quite different... We were not ready for compromises; we did not make sufficient efforts to get, if not the full agreement of the Arabs, at least their acquiescence to a Jewish state, which I think would have been possible. That was the original sin."
Dr. Nahum Goldmann
President of the World Jewish Congress
writing in the New Outlook,
November-December 1974
"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325305,00.html"
When you quote Fox news to support your views, you prove just how much of an idiot you are.
If there is such a concept, then you do share their values exactly, you obviously enjoy advocating the death and destruction of people for no other reason than their choice of religion, just as you accuse them of doing.
No one constantly displays their hate for a religion as virulently as you do, even though none of the people currently dying has in any way threatened or harmed you.
I have a sneaking suspicion you were once refused by a Muslim girl (or boy) in your past, and your way of revenge is to troll nonsense on these threads.
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Posted by dragonwagon5 at 06:59 AM : Apr 21, 2008
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How''s that? People like you have been doing this to those who won''t follow the beliefs of the "Party" for years and I just do not understand you. It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that the direction being taken by the Bush Administration is and has been a complete failure. But when someone comes forward with a different approach that does NOT match the directions of the Failure you attack them. It''s certainly NOT the American Way and just wonder why you do it?
Democrats and terrorists, two peas in a pod!!!
The trouble with Isreal is they are so extremely good at propaganda and word parsing and manipulating stupid Americans that they are neglecting actually being decent or fair or worth preserving. They are too powerful using these clever propaganda techniques, and seem to have forgotten that it is important to be good, to be something that is actualyl valuable, rather than spend all your efforts intimidating dissent.
So that leaves us gentiles wondering what the heck is going on. Either there is some magic, super-powerful secret Jewish lobby that has everyone intimidated, or some other folks are using this for their own purposes. Maybe the Pentagon is using Isreal to do their dirty work in the Middle East.
We don''t know which is the case, the anti-semites love the moagic Jew theory, personally I''m just confused and tires of being a target and a "friend" of some country that doesn''t share our values, such as religious freedom.
OOPPS ISRAELI NEOCONS! NOW THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT! GUESS THIS AID MONEY FOR THE PALESTINIANS WILL HAVE TO STOP GOING THRU YOUR BANKS AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE PEOPLE!
AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
Democrats and terrorists, two peas in a pod!!!
Posted by flyboyOZW at 07:28 AM : Apr 21, 2008
Actually, Bush and Rice did that with the January 2006 election where Hamas won.
How Bush, Rice and Abrams started the war in Gaza
According to Dahlan, it was Bush who had pushed legislative elections in the Palestinian territories in January 2006, despite warnings that Fatah was not ready. After Hamas-whose 1988 charter committed it to the goal of driving Israel into the sea-won control of the parliament, Bush made another, deadlier miscalculation.
Vanity Fair has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America%u2019s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power. (The State Department declined to comment.)
But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.- backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.
Posted by TruthSpeak
What a bunch of Democrat America Hating Idiots. Carter made peace with the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) when he was President. And he just loved the genocidal terrorist leader Yasser Arafat, who pledged peace and love for Israel as long as the Democrat Congress, that recently cut off funding to the American Military and Surrendered to the Vietnamese Communists, gave the PLO Several Billion Dollars to build %u201Cschools and hospitals for THE CHILDREN%u201D as the Democrats fond of saying. The Democrats and Carter were more than happy to take money from bad old America and give it to the good Muslims. And of course right after the PLO got the money they declared WAR on ISRAEL and The United States and began their next Ten Year Intifada (Holy War) that would leave thousands of Jew Families Dead and guarantee WAR for decades to come. Carter like all Democrats trusts genocidal terrorists more than he ever trusted The United States. Carter, Democrats, IRAN and Al Qaeda all know that terrorists are good and America is always Bad.
Posted by demslie at 08:34 AM : Apr 21, 2008
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demslie,, is upset today because of the prospect of peace between warrior Israelites and punching bag Palestinians. Where did you get thousannds of Israelites dead,, the US has already lost more in the Iraq war than you have from this whole mess, assuming your Israeli.
Give it a break...!
Posted by JackKnows
that''s the bottom line Jack - and anyone with half a brian knows it too.
Give it a break...!
Posted by TruthSpeak
Obviously TruthSpeak is a friend and supporter of terrorism if he says "warrior Israelites and punching bag Palestinians." The punching bad Palestinians have been slaughtering women and childre long before ISRAEL came along. So you can blame it on George Bush for the decades of blood and war that Muslims and Palestinians have waged on the world since the time of Jesus. Democrats will always defend the terrorists against Bad old America.
A Private elerly man did in 4 days what
A Whole Administration of Paid Stooges could not do in 8 years.
how much money did that save the Taxpayer?
+ no bombs were involved, that had to save a buck or two.
The strongest possibility is that the Hamas leadership in Damascus told Carter what he wanted to hear.
A Private elerly man did in 4 days what
A Whole Administration of Paid Stooges could not do in 8 years.
how much money did that save the Taxpayer?
+ no bombs were involved, that had to save a buck or two.
Posted by Quetzal0666
Very good point Quetza10666, the US is drawn into the entire conflict because of the spoon fed media in favor of poor Israel. Not to mention a hidden agenda in the White House from Isralite''s in disquise as politicians. Mr. Carter and many others really do have America at heart and can see though it all, not special interest. We are not given the truth about how one sided the conflict is.
Israel is promoting this blood bath just as much as Hamas is. And they''ve killed thousands of Palestinians as well.
Somebody certainly needs to be talking over there besides Condi Rice who knows nothing but oil deals.
The US just keeps promoting hate and chaos in the Middle East, but their attempts to incorporate it and steal their oil have been a failure since day one.
Posted by dragonwagon5
no, you''re mistaken. you''re thinking of the israeli who spray poison chemicals on people in downtown damascus, or those who routinely lob 155mm shells into civilian housing - killing women & children - it doesn''t matter, they''re all "classified" as terrorists, right?
people like you deny others the right you claim as God-given - hypocrites all.
Posted by juwboy at 05:13 AM : Apr 21, 2008
-You''re talking of yerself yerself, aren''t you, juwboy?
those critics of Carter should try to locate bushes acheivements.....
pre-emptive war in iraq?
an economy going down the drain?
katrina?
lying to America?
"Shortly after Hamas claimed responsibility for an August 19, 2003 suicide bombing in Jerusalem that killed 20 people including four U.S. citizens, the Treasury Department''s Office of Foreign Asset Control named a number of Hamas leaders as "specially designated global terrorists." They included Mashaal and Abu Marzouk and the designation made it illegal to conduct any transactions with them"
Posted by cfin5
*ROCKETS" - what a joke - check the israeli death toll from "rockets", about 11 in 5 years - are you so naive or unimformed not to know that in that same time period thousands of palestinians have died - majority innocent women and children?
dude, get some independent knowledge, the worn-out MSM israeli lobby certified stuff is total bs
Ishreal uses Smart Bombs from the air via U.S. Hardware,
whats the difference?
death is still death.
Posted by TruthSpeak
The agenda between US and Israel is for our convenience... not theirs
Who helped us during the civil war?
who train us for antiterrorism?
who exchanges high intelligence with us?
who''s a partner of the techonological developments hand in hand?
who shares our democracy ideology in that region?
those critics of Carter should try to locate bushes acheivements.....
pre-emptive war in iraq?
an economy going down the drain?
katrina?
lying to America?
Posted by neoconRcrazy
You can always tell who the America Haters are. Democrats will find any reason to praise and worship anything except the United States. Carter created an America financed peace accord with Israel and the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) when he was President. Then the genocidal PLO terrorist leader Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize just before he began his 10 year blood war on Israel where he pledged the distruction of the Israeli State. And he did this with the financing of Jimmy Carter and a Democrat Congress. Some Peace Prize.
don''t forget there has been many peace treaties before....
fanatism is fanatism.... terrorism is terrorism...
is not easy to give up
Who helped us during the civil war?
who train us for antiterrorism?
who exchanges high intelligence with us?
who''''s a partner of the techonological developments hand in hand?
who shares our democracy ideology in that region?
Posted by factsearcher
Our convenience? What the f uck does israeli give us? We shove them billions a year
Helped during the civil war? you mean in 1860? I didn''t know Lincoln had jewish generals!
Trains us for "anti-terrorism": agaist the terrorists they''ve created, right!
Exchanges intel ??? that''s real funny seeing as we have american-jew getting thrown in jail all the time for stealing our secrets for their true country!
for the rest forget it - you''re probably from telAviv anyway...
Posted by demslie
you still have listed bushes "acheivements".....kinda hard, eh?
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