HOLLADAY, Utah, April 21, 2008

"Lost Boys" Forced Out By Polygamist Sects

One Tells Maggie Rodriguez They're Seen As Competition To Older Men For Young Women

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(CBS)  "Lost Boys" is the term given to young men who are forced to leave polygamist compounds at a very young age. Many say they're banished on pretexts, enabling older men in such sects to have less competition for younger women and wives.

Most of the Lost Boys are between 13 and 21 when they're kicked out of compounds such as the one in Eldorado, Texas from which authorities removed more than 400 children and teens in a raid earlier this month.

The alleged wrongdoing cited by sect elders when Lost Boys are tossed include things such as watching a movie, playing football, or talking to a girl, Lost Boys say.

Among the many difficulties Lost Boys face is that they're raised to not trust the outside world. They're usually left with little education or life skills and must learn to live in a world about which they know little, while dealing with the deep psychological pain of being shunned by their families and believing they're beyond spiritual redemption.

One such Lost Boy is Brent Jeffs, nephew of controversial imprisoned polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.

Brent chatted withThe Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Monday, along with Shannon Price, director of The Diversity Foundation, which helps Lost Boys, among others, housing them and helping to integrate them into society.

Brent told Rodriguez, "(The reason) most of these men, you know, just like me, who were tossed out is if we're not following every little single thing that they say and do, they just find little reasons to kick us out. And you know, merely for the big reason of, you know, we're competition for these older men to get these younger women. It's a sad story.

"They'll usually find something, you know, that you've done wrong. Some little thing, then they'll say, 'well, you need to leave town because you've done this wrong thing. And we don't believe that you need to stay in here with us."

" ... when they're kicked out, these boys, their dad, they're told to drop these boys off at the edge of town and just tell them, 'Good luck.' These boys have nowhere to go. They don't have brothers and sisters, you know, anybody to go to. So they rely on somebody like us (The Diversity Foundation, which Brent is working with), who can kind of help them figure out what they're doing in life. Otherwise, they're just lost and, you know, they end up making some bad decisions down the road. And it's just not a good situation. We definitely need to help them."

Asked if young people in polygamist sects even know it's against the law for someone to marry and have sex with a girl younger than 18, Brent replied, "They don't even talk about it at all in the church. The thing they teach in there is, 'W hat we tell you to do is what you should do, and you should never, ever question what we tell you to do.' They don't say anything about underage marriages and you're being married to this girl that's definitely not of age to be married. They just don't teach that at all."

Price said services her group makes available to Lost Boys vary, "depending on the child and what their availability is of their family back in their community of origin. So most of them I think generally speaking, they're lacking in education, they're delayed in their maturity. So, we do a lot of life skills instruction to make sure that they can integrate into the larger society."

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by mrsmiggins-2009 April 24, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
QUOTE: Would any of you believe me if I told you the truth? I know over a dozen of the so-called "lost boys" And they feel like they were tricked by Dan Fischer because he offered them money. If you were to call any of them "lost boys" now to thier face you would be in danger of a knuckle sandwich! I have asked them to write a letter to the Judge in Texas, and they and the girls that have left with them who grew up in the church are totally disgusted with what is happening to their relatives in Texas! END QUOTE

Posted by hiimallen at 09:40 AM : Apr 23, 2008

I would be inclined to believe you if you could get some of them to post comments here. They should let the world know that they disagree with the way the State of Texas has handled the YFZ Ranch and the way this reporter has treated their story.

People need to know the whole truth about what''s going on here. It seems like there''s a witch hunt growing, and innocent people are going to get swept up with those who have actually broken the law.
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by homespunlady April 23, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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A BONANZA of UNTAINTED tissue and blood!

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EXPECTED DELAYS SHOULD take them well into a profitable ADULTHOOD in the "specialized areas" you''re FAMOUS for ( see Boystown SCANDAL info on the web). NO REBELLION and "tattle-tails" here. OBEDIENT, HEALTHY, UN-DRUGGED and a PRIME ASSET for those that like to be "in control"! Shipping prior to processing into LOST STATUS out of State or COUNTRY is extra.

This type of "raid" has only happened 3 times before and is a "once in a lifetime opportunity" due to the need to RESTOCK THESE PEOPLE before HARVESTING THEM!!
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by homespunlady April 23, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
Who''s next?

The AMISH - THEY dress "funny", have "different beliefs" and DON''T send their children to GOVERNMENT RUN SCHOOLS.

The Japanese? OH, we ALREADY DID THAT during WWII and after DEMONIZING, CONFISCATING AND KILLING bunches of them DECADES later we "paid reparations".

The NATIVE AMERICANS?? OOPS WE DID DO THAT TO THEM - and EVEN MORE!! Taking their CHILDREN, their Culture and their lands and GUESS what our BUREAUCRATS ARE STILL DOING THAT to them with RELOCATION, TOXIC DUMPING and JACK ABRAMOFF''S kind of "deals".

Maybe the ELITE that manipulate ASSUMPTIONS NEED a TASTE of their OWN ACTIONS.

There are a LOT of "SCARY DANGEROUS things" going on in those UPPER CLASS "gated communities" and McMansions too - let''s go in and CONFISCATE ALL THOSE KIDS so they can be "protected" by our so much "better" military-industrial complex!!

It''ll cut out those pesky rules that REAL PARENTS might use to stand in the way of TOTAL POPULATION CONTROL and MORE cannon fodder for the NEXT WAR.

Didn''t HITLER USE THAT REASONING??
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by hiimallen April 23, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
Would any of you believe me if I told you the truth? I know over a dozen of the so-called "lost boys" And they feel like they were tricked by Dan Fischer because he offered them money. If you were to call any of them "lost boys" now to thier face you would be in danger of a knuckle sandwich! I have asked them to write a letter to the Judge in Texas, and they and the girls that have left with them who grew up in the church are totally disgusted with what is happening to their relatives in Texas!
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by hiimallen April 23, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
Why is the investigation behind this propoganda not done? Why does CBS news not ask Brent Jeffs the basic question: DID YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER LEAVE? This kid is the biggest liar on the planet. He is also the same one who claimed to be raped by Warren Jeffs!!
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by Marie Zarankevich April 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT
Speaking of constitutional rights,the parents ensured that their children HAD NO constitutional rights while they lived within the churchl -- The moment they were taken away from the parents, they began to have those rights for the first time. -- They did this themselves. -- However long they''ve been alive, that''s how long they''ve been without Constitutional Rights.
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by Marie Zarankevich April 22, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
That''s just straight forward child abandonment. -- I believe that is a serious crime, and probably goes along with a jail sentence, hey? -- And this is with parental consent??? -- Nice folks!
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
"These aren''''t lesbians, these are girls that are made to have *** with older men against their will."
Posted by newviolin

you are mistaken again. this lesbians are the social workers, the judge who try to take the nice clean mormans womens and children and give them to this KLK (krazy lesbians kult), which has taken control of the child welfare services and courts in this america. we have much good and honest proof of this as you can see.
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by newviolin April 22, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
You should know what you are talking about before you start putting in things that don''t apply to the story. These aren''t lesbians, these are girls that are made to have *** with older men against their will. Even though these people live ''behind closed doors'' doen''t mean that they can disobey the law.
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
"I could never work out how this lesbians thing was supposed to work biologically. Naturally in humans male births almost equal female births the ratios are almost 50 50. If some lesbians have 2 or more e.g. up to 4 lovers in some lesbians societies what are the other lesbians who have to miss out and have no $ex slave supposed to do. It would seem rather unnatural to me a very suspect practice. What possible use can it serve in a modern society?"
Posted by ME_NZ

you making good point, my friend. and besides, biologically, is impossible for this lesbians to reproduce so in few years, there are none left.

which is why this KLK (krazy lesbians kult) have attempt to kidnap this nice clean mormans girls and have the lawyers sell them to this infertile lesbians couples. this we know by much good and honest proof.
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by me_nz April 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
I could never work out how this polygamy thing was supposed to work biologically. Naturally in humans male births almost equal female births the ratios are almost 50 50. If some men have 2 or more e.g. up to 4 wives in some Muslim societies what are the other men who have to miss out and have no wife supposed to do. It would seem rather unnatural to me a very suspect practice. What possible use can it serve in a modern society? I also think it rather strange that this polygamy always seems to be about men having more than one wife. Why is it never religiously sanctioned for a woman to have more than one husband? Could this spoil the fun for the pious elders who propound this rubbish in the name of religion?
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by memerider April 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
Sad situation--boys tossed on the street by their parents and not even taught about life other than "follow orders", just as the women are taught. So all people of both sexes are just drones for the powerful leaders who perpetuate this horror.
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by bsl103158 April 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
The FLDS treats females that no longer want to comply with their harsh, totally out- to-lunch rules with very severe punishments. They normally will do anything it takes to keep the young girls, but are heartless with most of their boys, which is all necessary in order to continue this nutty and digraceful lifestyle. They are lawless and expert at lying and view themselves as better than the rest of society in spite of it all. I keep wondering how many of them know about Warren''s total disregard for his own rules while he was on the run- he excommunicated so many people for doing the things he himself was doing whern he was caught, as Naomi was also doing- wearing normal casual American clothing, using red(the car they were in), using numerous electonic devices . He''s an archvillian and utter disgrace, yet wants his followers to view him as God. It''s all such typical cult garbage, on so many levels regarding America, this great nation going to all lengths to give them help and legal defense, even while they despise America and the rest of us. It''s a sick and disgusting culture on so many levels. Terribly idolatrous, and terribly hypocritical.
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
the case is simple enough: all this lies and false accusations and illegal treatment of americans mormans in texas is cause by this KLK (krazy lesbians klan) for which it is known to have filthy objectives and the aggressive recruiting tactics as we have seen lately with this simple mormans women and children in texas. it is now for certain that they try recruit this simple women and obtain her children for the infertile lesbian couples as in texas.
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by michnor April 22, 2008 1:03 PM EDT
Brent''s story was fascinating albeit somewhat superficial. It would be great to see an in-depth investigative report on what becomes of these "lost boys."How do they adjust to life outside of the sect?Has any written a book about their lives in and out of the sect?
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
but you know that this KLK (krazy lesbians kult) have been stalking this clean humble mormans for years now:

look at this http://web.sccn2.net/flds/More-Pics.htm and see that i have good and honest proof of this KLK activities with this mormans.
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by peevdprophet April 22, 2008 6:27 AM EDT
This is child abandonment, pure and simple
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by pfd572 April 22, 2008 5:36 AM EDT
mcvet: and the law says we can''t be force to provide our DNA. Its called the Fourth Amendment. The courts have to prove the need does not infringe on these rights. The ACLU is monitoring, so hopefully all will be in the best interests of the children and in accordance with their Constitutional rights.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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