HOLLADAY, Utah, April 21, 2008

"Lost Boys" Forced Out By Polygamist Sects

One Tells Maggie Rodriguez They're Seen As Competition To Older Men For Young Women

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(CBS)  "Lost Boys" is the term given to young men who are forced to leave polygamist compounds at a very young age. Many say they're banished on pretexts, enabling older men in such sects to have less competition for younger women and wives.

Most of the Lost Boys are between 13 and 21 when they're kicked out of compounds such as the one in Eldorado, Texas from which authorities removed more than 400 children and teens in a raid earlier this month.

The alleged wrongdoing cited by sect elders when Lost Boys are tossed include things such as watching a movie, playing football, or talking to a girl, Lost Boys say.

Among the many difficulties Lost Boys face is that they're raised to not trust the outside world. They're usually left with little education or life skills and must learn to live in a world about which they know little, while dealing with the deep psychological pain of being shunned by their families and believing they're beyond spiritual redemption.

One such Lost Boy is Brent Jeffs, nephew of controversial imprisoned polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.

Brent chatted withThe Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Monday, along with Shannon Price, director of The Diversity Foundation, which helps Lost Boys, among others, housing them and helping to integrate them into society.

Brent told Rodriguez, "(The reason) most of these men, you know, just like me, who were tossed out is if we're not following every little single thing that they say and do, they just find little reasons to kick us out. And you know, merely for the big reason of, you know, we're competition for these older men to get these younger women. It's a sad story.

"They'll usually find something, you know, that you've done wrong. Some little thing, then they'll say, 'well, you need to leave town because you've done this wrong thing. And we don't believe that you need to stay in here with us."

" ... when they're kicked out, these boys, their dad, they're told to drop these boys off at the edge of town and just tell them, 'Good luck.' These boys have nowhere to go. They don't have brothers and sisters, you know, anybody to go to. So they rely on somebody like us (The Diversity Foundation, which Brent is working with), who can kind of help them figure out what they're doing in life. Otherwise, they're just lost and, you know, they end up making some bad decisions down the road. And it's just not a good situation. We definitely need to help them."

Asked if young people in polygamist sects even know it's against the law for someone to marry and have sex with a girl younger than 18, Brent replied, "They don't even talk about it at all in the church. The thing they teach in there is, 'W hat we tell you to do is what you should do, and you should never, ever question what we tell you to do.' They don't say anything about underage marriages and you're being married to this girl that's definitely not of age to be married. They just don't teach that at all."

Price said services her group makes available to Lost Boys vary, "depending on the child and what their availability is of their family back in their community of origin. So most of them I think generally speaking, they're lacking in education, they're delayed in their maturity. So, we do a lot of life skills instruction to make sure that they can integrate into the larger society."

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by chinoriley April 21, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
I tkink america needs to step up and take credit for creating this problem we call crime.The white america has taken what they want from every race to make their own live better than the rest.Now everyone is mad at one white man for doing what he knows best.There are nothing but white men and woman, and kids who are also white. White slavery is what its called, and i find it hillarious that so many white people are being told what to do and how to live. I think they deserve to be raised as if they have no brain or sense of their own. The african american race were not allowed access to the things that would put us on the same level as white people. Its funny how things turn around. Now its the white man enslaving his own race.
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by observer2020 April 21, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
chinoriley: My...aren''t you such a racist! This is not a race issue...it is a religious issue. Keep things in perspective. These young boys are turned away from their "families" because they are competition for the geezers that want to have physical relations/marry young girls. That''s against the law and that is what this story is about. Everyone in this country has opportunities available to them...what they choose to do is entirely up to them. Be it turn to crime, turn to religion, or just turn to a better way of life that you have known. Everything is either political or racial with these blogs...this one is religious and what these people are doing to their own male offspring, or competition. Quit playing the race card and get a life!
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by liberalme April 21, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
I''m sorry, but if any of us "threw" our kids out at the age of 13, we''d be arrested!! This isn''t a "church" environment--it''s a cult!!

Any mother who would allow her son to be "thrown" out at age 13 or would allow a daughter to be married at such young ages needs to be prosecuted for neglect!

Mothers are supposed to protect their children---and the "fathers" there--lock them all up, they''re preditators!
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by Dkathyduncan April 21, 2008 12:06 PM PDT
That definitely constitutes child abuse for minor boys. The perpetrators of this type of activity should be jailed
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by smiley676 April 21, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
chinoriley
When were you not allowed? Stop lying to make yourself feel better.
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by shuggie55 April 21, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
chinoriley - THIS IS NOT A RACE ISSUE! Doesn''t matter the color of ones skin - no one should be treated this way - forced to have *** or kicked out of their family circle so that you won''t steal little girls from the older men in the cult. Cults come in all different colors / races and sizes - so keep race out of this. You''re one of those types of people that always plays the race card hu? Read your comment, you said... "The african american race were not allowed..." you used the word WERE - past tense - past!!! IT''S IN THE PAST - get over it! I had nothing to do with slavery or the way they - in the past - treated African American''s.
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by liberalme April 21, 2008 12:59 PM PDT
tkink america needs to step up and take credit for creating this problem we call crime.The white america has taken what they want from every race to make their own live better than the rest.Now everyone is mad at one white man for doing what he knows best.There are nothing but white men and woman, and kids who are also white. White slavery is what its called, and i find it hillarious that so many white people are being told what to do and how to live. I think they deserve to be raised as if they have no brain or sense of their own. The african american race were not allowed access to the things that would put us on the same level as white people. Its funny how things turn around. Now its the white man enslaving his own race.


Posted by chinoriley at 11:

You and a select group of whites are keeping bigotry alive and well---get on with your life--we have no time to be enslaved by our pasts, and believe me--we all have one.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 1:22 PM PDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by enerji2u April 21, 2008 1:31 PM PDT
Lets remember that most of these people are brainwashed into believing their way is the right way - mostly the females are brainwashed the most. I do not necessarily hold the mothers responsible - to an extent. They live in a-whole-nother world than we do and do not see "abuse" - they are not ashamed, they do not put excuses because they know nothing else. I do hold the heads completely responsible as they DO know the wrongs they are perpetuating.
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by frankson2 April 21, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
I''m fast losing any sympathy for these morons. Sounds like a pride of lions where the dominant male drives out the young ones in order to eliminate competition.
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by rowdytexan2 April 21, 2008 1:53 PM PDT
Posted by chinoriley at 11:01 AM : Apr 21, 2008

The people who held slaves have been dead 100 years! It''s time to get over it! You are the one promoting racism and guilt trips on people who have passed legislation three or four times to make you equal and free! Pick it up! Run with it to make a better place instead of walling in something that NEVER happened to you!
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by rowdytexan2 April 21, 2008 1:57 PM PDT
These people have been taught obedience to their ''prophets'' (compound leaders) and haven''t a clue what the law of the land is.

Again, home schooled children must every one of them be tested on their knowledge of the US Constitution and the law that they are required to live under.

You can almost pity these people who have been brainwashed by these perverts! On the other hand they have to be condemned for teaching their children they have no choice but to obey some ignorant old men that want a continued string of young virgins to prey on.
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by stevex47 April 21, 2008 2:03 PM PDT
They dont kick the girls out for doing basically the same things do they? The girls are to valuable as *** slaves. And the boys are competition.
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by rwm2_2000 April 21, 2008 2:15 PM PDT
While we are talking about how bad this is we''re forgetting that we have just lost our rights to freedom of religion. Some people don''t believe in Doctors and won''t accept treatment for serious ailments and end up possibly dying. This is their religion and We need to let them alone-whatever they do. If we start letting our Gov''t involve themselves in our religion, we''ll eventually lose our freedom to believe as well like. I don''t want the gov''t involved in my religion-DO YOU? No one wants the gov''t involved in religion but in order to make us think they need to be they show us this side of things. They don''t mention the fact that they are forcing everybody to take a DNA test. This is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. If we and them submit to it then the gov''t will force us all to get DNA tested. Well U say there is nothing wrong w/that-BUT it is. Our gov''t has thrown our Constitution away and we are letting them do it by them being allowed to force ANYBODY to take DNA test. Once our Constitution is thrown away and we are all DNA recorded, our Gov''t can start selling body parts like the Chinese Gov''t. They are ALREADY RECORDING THE DNA OF ALL FEDERAL PRISONERS...PROTECT UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS...CALL OR EMAIL UR CONGRESSMEN NOW...I HAVE! AS the saying goes-GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
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by mcvet April 21, 2008 2:23 PM PDT
They don''''t mention the fact that they are forcing everybody to take a DNA test. This is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. If we and them submit to it then the gov''''t will force us all to get DNA tested. Well U say there is nothing wrong w/that-BUT it is. Our gov''''t has thrown our Constitution away and we are letting them do it by them being allowed to force ANYBODY to take DNA test. Once our Constitution is thrown away and we are all DNA recorded, our Gov''''t can start selling body parts like the Chinese Gov''''t. They are ALREADY RECORDING THE DNA OF ALL FEDERAL PRISONERS...PROTECT UR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS...CALL OR EMAIL UR CONGRESSMEN NOW...I HAVE! AS the saying goes-GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!


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Posted by rwm2_2000 at 02:15 PM : Apr 21, 2008

You pathetic Religious Nazi! They tried every way they could to find out who were the parents of those abused kids, they could NOT! So how do YOU suggest we find the criminals here... If we don''t use DNA to find them and they won''t tell us who the parents are? I''m tired of you Religious Nazi''s and your feeling that you are above the law. AMERICAN CITIZEN''s were being abused and fellony acts were being conducted within the walls of this compound. The LAW is the LAW and you freaks are NOT above it!! Sieg Heil and Amen
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by mcvet April 21, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
The people who held slaves have been dead 100 years! It''''s time to get over it! You are the one promoting racism and guilt trips on people who have passed legislation three or four times to make you equal and free! Pick it up! Run with it to make a better place instead of walling in something that NEVER happened to you!


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 01:53 PM : Apr 21, 2008
+ report abuse

Maybe but the MENTALITY is still there and we all know it! Anyone who is from the State of Texas and refuses to admit such things as the Klan or Christian Idenity are alive and well... to refuse to admit that the SAME mentality that created and cause a war to keep slaves is as strong within their ranks is simply refusing to admit the truth. Go to their web sites, READ them and get back to me if I''m right or wrong on this!!
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by goodday9 April 21, 2008 2:44 PM PDT
Where do you get the idea that freedom of religion covers all sins--these people are raping young girls--regardless if they think their religion allows this -it is still wrong and against the law. No religion is above the law. If these people will not answer the question of who the parents are--how can the children be turned back over to their parents? Just tell them--ok we will not return the children until we know who the parents are--that is if these people actually can tell who the actual parents are. This is a messed up situation all the way around.

As far as the state of Texas goes--they are not in the clear as far as I can see either--this has been investigated for over 4 years--how much crime has been committed in 4 years that could have been prevented if they had not drug their feet for so long--how much suffering have the young girls had to endure by being raped for 4 years..this is pathetic. Just because someone says they do things in the name of their religion--does not make it so. If they were killing the girls --because that was a religious belief would that be any different. Rape kills the spirit of these young girls. It is murder anyway you look at it. As far as the lost boys are concerned--that amounts to neglect--which is another form of child abuse. DISGUSTION SITUATION.
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by roach9703 April 21, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
These people are true monsters of child abuse and mine control! Should not the Department of Justice be involving to investigate civil rights violations, false imprisonment and kidnapping?
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by greeneyedger April 21, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
Why not arrest the men at the compound. They are the guiltiy ones. And put the children back with the mothers.
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by differnet April 21, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
greeneyedger,

The women are part of the conspiracy of silence and, perhaps unknowingly, help groom the children to accept underage *** and marriages and abuse. Victims can and do become victimizers, while still being victims as well. The risk that the mothers would coach the children to say what would cover up the crimes is too great. The Texas court is taking a very careful approach to protecting the children.
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by slim1h2o April 21, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
So this cult throughs kids, and young adults(males) away like a bad habit, which is a shame, but what makes these people any worse than the rest of society?

This society throughs people, men, women, and children away every day! Don''t beleive me? Just look at the homeless people, you''ll find all ages in that group.Just ask yourself, Are we any better than this cult?

That''s the real crime, of this "society".
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by perm3800 April 21, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
About those DNA tests: a) we already have learned that they are less than reliable (Innocence Project) due to operator error, chimera and other issues; b) when it can take three weeks or more to return a single test, how long do you think it will take to return 416? c) fatherhood in the FLDS has nothing to do with genetics. You are the father of the child because the Prophet has declared (revealed) it. Wives and children actually DO get reassigned. Men get exiled, just as boys do, when they go out of favor. Men are punished by having their families reassigned. (Don''t you wonder just what kind of father Rulon was that Warren doesn''t see he is punishing the mothers and children when he does this??) The net result is that the only constant source of approbation is the Prophet (Warren). So they can test all they want trying to fix paternity but it isn''t going to mean anything to the fathers.

It isn''t a psychologically healthy religion, that''s for sure.
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by enerji2u April 21, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
I always felt that the state handled it wrong. They should have given them an altimatum. Either the men leave and they conduct their investigation on premises or they remove the women and children. It would have saved a lot more trauma on these children. The women are completely brainwashed as well and they are also being unnecessarily traumatised.

The thing that gets me is that while of course I am angry at the sect,for a lot of things, the law handled it all wrong. I mean if a girl from a neighborhood had done the same thing (the call), would the government taken all the women and kids from the neighborhood? Of course not! You know dang well they wouldnt hagve done that. But because this was a religious thing they did. In the neighborhood scenario, they would have interviewed the families and not removed anyone without proof. The government had no right to do it the way they did it.
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by enerji2u April 21, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
different;

its the women that are completely brainwashed and abused - which then cycles to the children. These men purposely train their women to be dumb and miniscule. The females, of any age, are the most abused in all of this. How can you blaim a victim?
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by enerji2u April 21, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/20/polygamy.sect/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/18/polygamy.fri/index.html
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by enerji2u April 21, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
http://tinyurl.com/4dnddu

http://tinyurl.com/52z7wx

Shorter versions
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 5:28 PM PDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by gizacat April 21, 2008 5:42 PM PDT
The most compliant of the young men are allowed to stay and eventually marry a "first wife". The others end up tossed out.

The surplus boys are treated like male farm animals. Since not even the FLDS "gelds" their surplus males, they just kick them out. But its the same result, more females to breed with the select few remaining males.

Wild horses and other "herd" and pack animals are the same way. The "ALPHA" males run off or kill their competition. Subservient males are allowed to remain as "servants" to the alpha of the pack/herd.

What kind of sick culture would raise their children to fear, loathe and distrust the rest of American and then kick many of them out into the world they are supposed to hate?

I''ve been reading about these Mormon polygamy cults and am heartened to know that there are Christian outreach groups in Utah and elsewhere helping the Lost Boys and the girls who want to escape.
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by pfd572 April 22, 2008 2:36 AM PDT
mcvet: and the law says we can''t be force to provide our DNA. Its called the Fourth Amendment. The courts have to prove the need does not infringe on these rights. The ACLU is monitoring, so hopefully all will be in the best interests of the children and in accordance with their Constitutional rights.
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by peevdprophet April 22, 2008 3:27 AM PDT
This is child abandonment, pure and simple
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
but you know that this KLK (krazy lesbians kult) have been stalking this clean humble mormans for years now:

look at this http://web.sccn2.net/flds/More-Pics.htm and see that i have good and honest proof of this KLK activities with this mormans.
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by michnor April 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
Brent''s story was fascinating albeit somewhat superficial. It would be great to see an in-depth investigative report on what becomes of these "lost boys."How do they adjust to life outside of the sect?Has any written a book about their lives in and out of the sect?
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
the case is simple enough: all this lies and false accusations and illegal treatment of americans mormans in texas is cause by this KLK (krazy lesbians klan) for which it is known to have filthy objectives and the aggressive recruiting tactics as we have seen lately with this simple mormans women and children in texas. it is now for certain that they try recruit this simple women and obtain her children for the infertile lesbian couples as in texas.
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by bsl103158 April 22, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
The FLDS treats females that no longer want to comply with their harsh, totally out- to-lunch rules with very severe punishments. They normally will do anything it takes to keep the young girls, but are heartless with most of their boys, which is all necessary in order to continue this nutty and digraceful lifestyle. They are lawless and expert at lying and view themselves as better than the rest of society in spite of it all. I keep wondering how many of them know about Warren''s total disregard for his own rules while he was on the run- he excommunicated so many people for doing the things he himself was doing whern he was caught, as Naomi was also doing- wearing normal casual American clothing, using red(the car they were in), using numerous electonic devices . He''s an archvillian and utter disgrace, yet wants his followers to view him as God. It''s all such typical cult garbage, on so many levels regarding America, this great nation going to all lengths to give them help and legal defense, even while they despise America and the rest of us. It''s a sick and disgusting culture on so many levels. Terribly idolatrous, and terribly hypocritical.
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by memerider April 22, 2008 5:31 PM PDT
Sad situation--boys tossed on the street by their parents and not even taught about life other than "follow orders", just as the women are taught. So all people of both sexes are just drones for the powerful leaders who perpetuate this horror.
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by me_nz April 22, 2008 5:35 PM PDT
I could never work out how this polygamy thing was supposed to work biologically. Naturally in humans male births almost equal female births the ratios are almost 50 50. If some men have 2 or more e.g. up to 4 wives in some Muslim societies what are the other men who have to miss out and have no wife supposed to do. It would seem rather unnatural to me a very suspect practice. What possible use can it serve in a modern society? I also think it rather strange that this polygamy always seems to be about men having more than one wife. Why is it never religiously sanctioned for a woman to have more than one husband? Could this spoil the fun for the pious elders who propound this rubbish in the name of religion?
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 6:08 PM PDT
"I could never work out how this lesbians thing was supposed to work biologically. Naturally in humans male births almost equal female births the ratios are almost 50 50. If some lesbians have 2 or more e.g. up to 4 lovers in some lesbians societies what are the other lesbians who have to miss out and have no $ex slave supposed to do. It would seem rather unnatural to me a very suspect practice. What possible use can it serve in a modern society?"
Posted by ME_NZ

you making good point, my friend. and besides, biologically, is impossible for this lesbians to reproduce so in few years, there are none left.

which is why this KLK (krazy lesbians kult) have attempt to kidnap this nice clean mormans girls and have the lawyers sell them to this infertile lesbians couples. this we know by much good and honest proof.
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by newviolin April 22, 2008 6:47 PM PDT
You should know what you are talking about before you start putting in things that don''t apply to the story. These aren''t lesbians, these are girls that are made to have *** with older men against their will. Even though these people live ''behind closed doors'' doen''t mean that they can disobey the law.
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by cpaide April 22, 2008 7:13 PM PDT
"These aren''''t lesbians, these are girls that are made to have *** with older men against their will."
Posted by newviolin

you are mistaken again. this lesbians are the social workers, the judge who try to take the nice clean mormans womens and children and give them to this KLK (krazy lesbians kult), which has taken control of the child welfare services and courts in this america. we have much good and honest proof of this as you can see.
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by Marie Zarankevich April 22, 2008 7:14 PM PDT
That''s just straight forward child abandonment. -- I believe that is a serious crime, and probably goes along with a jail sentence, hey? -- And this is with parental consent??? -- Nice folks!
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by Marie Zarankevich April 22, 2008 7:29 PM PDT
Speaking of constitutional rights,the parents ensured that their children HAD NO constitutional rights while they lived within the churchl -- The moment they were taken away from the parents, they began to have those rights for the first time. -- They did this themselves. -- However long they''ve been alive, that''s how long they''ve been without Constitutional Rights.
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by hiimallen April 23, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
Why is the investigation behind this propoganda not done? Why does CBS news not ask Brent Jeffs the basic question: DID YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER LEAVE? This kid is the biggest liar on the planet. He is also the same one who claimed to be raped by Warren Jeffs!!
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by hiimallen April 23, 2008 9:40 AM PDT
Would any of you believe me if I told you the truth? I know over a dozen of the so-called "lost boys" And they feel like they were tricked by Dan Fischer because he offered them money. If you were to call any of them "lost boys" now to thier face you would be in danger of a knuckle sandwich! I have asked them to write a letter to the Judge in Texas, and they and the girls that have left with them who grew up in the church are totally disgusted with what is happening to their relatives in Texas!
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by homespunlady April 23, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
Who''s next?

The AMISH - THEY dress "funny", have "different beliefs" and DON''T send their children to GOVERNMENT RUN SCHOOLS.

The Japanese? OH, we ALREADY DID THAT during WWII and after DEMONIZING, CONFISCATING AND KILLING bunches of them DECADES later we "paid reparations".

The NATIVE AMERICANS?? OOPS WE DID DO THAT TO THEM - and EVEN MORE!! Taking their CHILDREN, their Culture and their lands and GUESS what our BUREAUCRATS ARE STILL DOING THAT to them with RELOCATION, TOXIC DUMPING and JACK ABRAMOFF''S kind of "deals".

Maybe the ELITE that manipulate ASSUMPTIONS NEED a TASTE of their OWN ACTIONS.

There are a LOT of "SCARY DANGEROUS things" going on in those UPPER CLASS "gated communities" and McMansions too - let''s go in and CONFISCATE ALL THOSE KIDS so they can be "protected" by our so much "better" military-industrial complex!!

It''ll cut out those pesky rules that REAL PARENTS might use to stand in the way of TOTAL POPULATION CONTROL and MORE cannon fodder for the NEXT WAR.

Didn''t HITLER USE THAT REASONING??
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by homespunlady April 23, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
HEALTHY UNTAINTED BY PSYCHOMEDS CHILDREN FOR SALE!!

Contact the Texas Department of Social Services.

OVER 400 with YOUR CHOICE of age (they have over 100 of those HEALTHY RARE WHITE BABIES!) No NEED to GO OVER SEAS TO PURCHASE your "STATUS SYMBOL ADOPTION" these are HIGH PROFILE "RESCUES" AND WITH THE right incentives CAN BE played up to have been in A HORRENDOUS situation that WILL guarantee a slot on the TALK SHOW CIRCUIT and PLENTY OF SYMPATHY and CHARITY to "RE-EDUCATE" your NEW "MISGUIDED" attention-getter!!

EXPERIMENTAL LABS - DRUG FREE teenage SUBJECTS under STATE CONTROL and free of SOCIETAL TOXINS AND REBELLIOUS ATTITUDES!
FULL DNA BACKGROUNDS to INSURE the MOST ACCURATE and CLEAR EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS!
A BONANZA of UNTAINTED tissue and blood!

CHILDREN''S "RANCHES" - Running low on "profitable" kids of your CHOSEN GENDER???? NEW SUPPLY AVAILABLE!! UNDER STATE CONTROL and easily "LOST" in the system due to expected DECADES of Bureaucracy.

EXPECTED DELAYS SHOULD take them well into a profitable ADULTHOOD in the "specialized areas" you''re FAMOUS for ( see Boystown SCANDAL info on the web). NO REBELLION and "tattle-tails" here. OBEDIENT, HEALTHY, UN-DRUGGED and a PRIME ASSET for those that like to be "in control"! Shipping prior to processing into LOST STATUS out of State or COUNTRY is extra.

This type of "raid" has only happened 3 times before and is a "once in a lifetime opportunity" due to the need to RESTOCK THESE PEOPLE before HARVESTING THEM!!
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by mrsmiggins-2009 April 24, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
QUOTE: Would any of you believe me if I told you the truth? I know over a dozen of the so-called "lost boys" And they feel like they were tricked by Dan Fischer because he offered them money. If you were to call any of them "lost boys" now to thier face you would be in danger of a knuckle sandwich! I have asked them to write a letter to the Judge in Texas, and they and the girls that have left with them who grew up in the church are totally disgusted with what is happening to their relatives in Texas! END QUOTE

Posted by hiimallen at 09:40 AM : Apr 23, 2008

I would be inclined to believe you if you could get some of them to post comments here. They should let the world know that they disagree with the way the State of Texas has handled the YFZ Ranch and the way this reporter has treated their story.

People need to know the whole truth about what''s going on here. It seems like there''s a witch hunt growing, and innocent people are going to get swept up with those who have actually broken the law.
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