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McCain Questions Obama Radical Ties
Politico: Candidate Stokes Debate Over ’60s Radical’s Ties To Obama, Saying His Defense “Borders On The Outrageous.”
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Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) stoked debate over a ’60s radical’s ties to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday, saying Obama’s defense “borders on the outrageous.”
William Ayers - a former member of the Weather Underground, which embraced bombing in its effort to end the Vietnam War - became an issue in the Democratic nominating race at last week’s debate. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) said Obama’s past meetings with Ayers are part of a “larger set of concerns about how we are going to run against John McCain.” Republican sources said McCain plans to make a major issue of the connection in the months ahead.
Asked by host George Stephanopoulos whether he has any doubt that Obama shares his sense of patriotism, McCain brought the subject up.
“I'm sure he's very patriotic. But his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question,” McCain said.
“He became friends with him and spent time with him while the guy was unrepentant over his activities as a member of a terrorist organization, the Weathermen,” McCain said. “Does he condemn them? Would he condemn someone who says they're unrepentant and wished that they had bombed more?”
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton responded aggressively, calling McCain's salvo "smear politics."
“Unable to sell his out-of-touch ideas on the economy and Iraq, John McCain has stooped to the same smear politics and low road that he denounced in 2000," Burton said. "The American people can’t afford a third term of President Bush’s failed policies and divisive tactics."
David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, says in the forthcoming issue of Newsweek that the campaign is planning to expand its research and rapid-response team in part to counteract charges about Ayers.
"He's not going to sit there and sing 'Kumbaya' as the missiles are raining in," Axelrod told the magazine. "I don't think people should mistake civility for a willingness to deal with the challenges to come."
As a defense, Obama said during the debate: “The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions. Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements? Because I certainly don't agree with those either.”
McCain seized on that, calling Coburn a “great humanitarian” and “in my view, one of greatest spokespersons for the rights of the unborn.”
“To compare him with Dr. Coburn, who spends so much of his life bringing babies into this world, that in my view is really - borders on outrageous,” McCain said.
At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.”
Axelrod told Politico's Ben Smith in February: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. ... They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."
Information about the pair's connection has been dribbling out over the past few months. Obama first met Ayers in 1995, during Obama's first state Senate campaign, and the two met with a small group of local liberal activists at Ayers' house. Exact details of the meeting are unkown because Obama and Ayers have declined to discuss it.
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See all 54 CommentsTONY PERKINS A MCCAIN SUPPORTER - Tony Perkins is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America''''s premier white supremacist organization, the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South. In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list. SHOULD MCCAIN DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM MR PERKINS?
TONY PERKINS A MCCAIN SUPPORTER - Tony Perkins is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council Perkins addressed the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), America''''s premier white supremacist organization, the successor to the White Citizens Councils, which battled integration in the South. In 1996 Perkins paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list. SHOULD MCCAIN DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM MR PERKINS?
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The question is if we want a man in the White House who will regularly give his ear to the likes of a Reverend Wright, his and Sabeel%u2019s replacement theologies, and pro-terrorist propagandists like Ali Abunimah on a regular basis? In one sense, Obama could be considered the ISM%u2019s Manchurian candidate given his wide connections to ISM activists and campaign movements such as the Wheels of Justice Tour, Joseph Carr a.k.a. Joseph Smith, Hannah Mermelstein, Anna Baltzer and others.
If Ayers was the only radical Obama associated with , no biggie, but there is a pattern. But when he and his church have been supporting Hamas. Actions speak louder than words.
Read it all.
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WHY did Obama Go to Ayers House with a small group of liberal activists? Because He wanted to, thats how Obama thinks and thats who his friend is.
Obama first met Ayers in 1995, during Obama''s first state Senate campaign, and the two met with a small group of local liberal activists at Ayers'' house. Exact details of the meeting are unkown because Obama and Ayers have declined to discuss it.
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With this as background, is it really all that startling that Sen. Obama enjoys a friendly relationship with Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, a pair of terrorists?
I want to be clear here: Not terrorist sympathizers. Terrorists.
The mainstream media, in their zeal to elect a Democrat, are assiduously airbrushing Ayers: %u201Can aging lefty with a foolish past,%u201D as the Chicago Sun-Times has so delicately put it. In fact, it is the press that is rife with foolish, aging lefties. Ayers, by contrast, is an unapologetic terrorist with a savage past -- one who beat the system he so reviles when, after his years of fugitivity, terrorism charges were dropped due to government surveillance violations. He%u2019s %u201Cguilty as sin,%u201D by his own concession, but %u201Cfree as a bird.%u201D
Ayers didn%u2019t just carry a sign outside the Pentagon on May 19, 1972. He bombed it. As his memoir gleefully recalled, %u201CEverything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the *** were finally going to get what was coming to them.%u201D
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BILL AYERS AND BERNADINE DOHRN
With this as background, is it really all that startling that Sen. Obama enjoys a friendly relationship with Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, a pair of terrorists?
I want to be clear here: Not terrorist sympathizers. Terrorists.
The mainstream media, in their zeal to elect a Democrat, are assiduously airbrushing Ayers: %u201Can aging lefty with a foolish past,%u201D as the Chicago Sun-Times has so delicately put it. In fact, it is the press that is rife with foolish, aging lefties. Ayers, by contrast, is an unapologetic terrorist with a savage past -- one who beat the system he so reviles when, after his years of fugitivity, terrorism charges were dropped due to government surveillance violations. He%u2019s %u201Cguilty as sin,%u201D by his own concession, but %u201Cfree as a bird.%u201D
Ayers didn%u2019t just carry a sign outside the Pentagon on May 19, 1972. He bombed it. As his memoir gleefully recalled, %u201CEverything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the *** were finally going to get what was coming to them.%u201D
Is there any other way to run a campaign? All three are banking on the fear they can stoke in voters...and that includes Obama...except Obama is using ''negative'' campaign remarks to boost himself. He has no answers other than ''raise taxes'' and no experience....but wants to change everything in ''the greatest nation on earth'' in his own words. Obama plays like the ''nice guy getting smeared'' any time someone looks like they might raise serious doubts about his ability to make sound judgments...how long before the race card gets pulled when someone finds out something he can''t side step? This guy is just as full of game as the others...he is a politician, afterall.
Posted by BLACKSPIRIT3
That''s not the impression being given. Obama wants to be on defensive...so he can look pitiful being ganged up on by a white woman and an old man...poor guy. He has yet to declare Wright wrong...and it''s not what happened when he was 8 that is the source of contention. He has a ''friendly'' relationship with a terrorist...oh he''ll tell you the guy is mainstream now, but this same guy, just after 911, regretted not having killed more Americans in the 70s. Poor Obama...he shouldn''t be held accountable for having terrorist friends! He shouldn''t be held accountable for sitting in an Anti-American church for more than 20 years...it was where all the best of the best went...at least until they realized it wasn''t acutally a church and left....like Oprah. Poor Obama shouldn''t be held accountable for having a wife who confessed she had never been proud of this counntry until her mixed husband was able to make a run for the White House. It''s not Obama. It''s all the people he feels comfortable associating with....forgive him...just understand the same inability to judge will follow him where ever he goes....but kindly over look it while he plunders the greatest nation on earth.
-- Obama is not comparing the men, he is comparing the criticism from George that he should apologize for everyone else'' remarks. Infact Coburn has called for %u201Cthe death penalty to abortionists%u201D which is advocating terrorism.
It is YOU, Mr. McCain, who is making a false comparison and attributing it to Obama.
As of 9/11, 31 years had gone by go by since the bombings with NO conviction AND a presidential pardon to the Whether Underground from Pres. Clinton. Obama is supposed proactively denounce someone he knew from the same charity board because of a crime allegedly committed when Obama was was 8.
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Ridiculous. Let''s put McCain''s multitudes of nasty associations under the same microscope.
Posted by likeitis5050 at 11:02 AM : Apr 21, 2008"
False, Ayers said he regretted not doing more bombings, he never said he regretted not killing more people, that''s simply a lie. He killed no one, the bombings of the Weather Underground were against buildings, not people. As to mainstream, Obama is not the one claiming Ayers is mainstream, Mayor Dalley is.
Posted by Obama8years at 09:56 AM : Apr 21, 2008"
You post these lies daily on every forums, it doesn''t get any more credence because you post it more often, it just makes you look like a lying fool.
Read it all.
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Posted by Obama8years at 09:58 AM : Apr 21, 2008"
As I have pointed out on a couple of occasion, this is the only article you have that makes this claim and it is full of unsubstantiated innuendos and false connections.
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Check out the article %u201CPenumbra%u201D http://savagepolitics.com/?p=295 and %u201CAssociations Galore%u201D http://savagepolitics.com/?p=302
A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student.
In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college.
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse
Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton''s attorney general campaign, said he raped her in 1978;
From 1978-1980, Arkansas State troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.
Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have *** with him shortly after she won her state crown.
Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral ***.
Sandra Allen James, President Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation''s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress.
Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993.
**** Does McSame condemn Bush, Cheney, Rove? Would he condemn [people] who say they''re unrepentant and wished that they had bombed more?
Barack didn''t collude in any way with Ayers, unlike McSame who gave Bush and his evil cronies carte blanche . . .
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She met McCain last year when the senator gave a speech at South Carolina''s Newberry College, where her father is president. Mitchell Zais, a retired Army general, and McCain became friendly after Zais published a piece in 2006 critical of how Rumsfeld''s Pentagon had handled the war.
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Effendi Snob-oma the latte liberal who seems to feel he''s above it all and anyone who challenges him is up to smear campaigns has a lot to learn. He''s loose change. He''s got radical written all over his resume and hangs out with the best of them. Rev. Wright a racist and bigot who is a hypocrite. He will occupy a 10,000 square foot house in a posh white gated community with a credit line of $10 million, all for pimping poverty and victimization. He hangs out with a known terrorist who is now a university pukefessor and admits openly and with arrogance that he didn''t do enough to destroy the government. All follows at the universities - the little piglets that take classes adore the pukefessor and the Effendi Oreo. Yet, when Senator Effendi Oreo is asked pointed questions as to what it will do to the economy if he raises the capital gains tax or the corporate tax, Mr. Loose change looks like a deer caught in a headlight. Yeah, smear tactics indeed. With an unknown record and a three year stint in the Senate, Senator Oreo is top draw. He seems to me more like smelly underwear. Go get him John. You can''t help but smell this guy from miles away.
What kind of America do you want. The kind that caters to the like of rev wright, hamas, black panthers, black value system, ayers, radical Liberal left, Farakahn, ISM. The list goes on.
Why is Hamas Supporting Obama. Why do you think they are. Obama will be a weak president catering to the ultra socialist liberals and will make america vulnerable.
Search the CBS article "Bad Company"
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If Barack Obama didn%u2019t know about Abunimah%u2019s writings (and Abunimah says he did), the same as his claims of being unaware of Reverend Wright%u2019s remarks after 20 years, then Obama is not competent to be our President. Abunimah likes to lie and claim Al Awda has nothing to do with the ISM or Electronic Intifada, though plenty of evidence exists on the website the homepage at www.StoptheISM.com showing the contrary.
But Obama%u2019s association with the ISM through his church and lobbying in Chicago goes even deeper than just his past links to Al Awda and Ali Abunimah. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, are both equally involved with the ISM.
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Amen. This just shows how desparate John McCain is to win. The very thing that he railed against in 2000, these slime-tactics used on him, he has not joined hands with the devil and is guilty of the same thing. He is a war-hawk, knows nothing about economics, he has no new ideas, he is a Bush clone on policy, he is past his time.
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Obama has dual citizenship and very questionable associates.
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OBAMA TIES TO HAMAS....(Why doesnt the News Report this!!!) Same reason they didnt report rev wright till a year later.
If Barack Obama didn%u2019t know about Abunimah%u2019s writings (and Abunimah says he did), the same as his claims of being unaware of Reverend Wright%u2019s remarks after 20 years, then Obama is not competent to be our President. Abunimah likes to lie and claim Al Awda has nothing to do with the ISM or Electronic Intifada, though plenty of evidence exists on the website the homepage at www.StoptheISM.com showing the contrary.
But Obama%u2019s association with the ISM through his church and lobbying in Chicago goes even deeper than just his past links to Al Awda and Ali Abunimah. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, are both equally involved with the ISM.
Ayers is an informal adviser to Mayor Richard M. Daley and has been awarded more than $50 million in charitable grants for his promotion of small schools as a solution to a crisis in education. Dohrn lectures widely on children''s law and serves on a variety of boards and committees. Together, they have raised three boys in the intellectual haven of Hyde Park, where Sen. Barack Obama is a neighbor.
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John McCain is such an idiot. Here is the "radical" that Obama knows. Sounds really scarey, don''t you think.
Nearly 30 years after surrendering to police, Ayers and Dohrn, both in their 60s, are tenured university professors whose work on school reform and juvenile justice have won them bipartisan respect.
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I think John''s senility is showing. Just exactly when was Obama hanging out with this guy. Obama was born in the 60''s when this guy was going to prison. He is much older than Obama and has done tremendously positive things with the remainder of his life. He works with the mayor of Chicago. What is John McCain''s point???????
I just think he is not thinking clearly, grabbing at straws from the idiot bloggers that started this BS. I this someone you REALLY want for president? Someone who can''t distinguish a "radical" from a solid citizen.
Obama has dual citizenship and very questionable associates.
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And who exactly are those "questionalable associates?"
I will vote the same way the average person is voting right now by sending in their own money to the various campaigns. Here are statistics that must be reported.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008
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Millions of average Americas are sending their own money to one of the candidates. The other candidates are being financed by mostly a few wealthy people.
The only thing I fear is what the candidates have to do for the people who financed their campaigns after they are elected.
I know their is only one candidate who will owe the average American if they are elected. My vote is for them. You decide for yourself.
Our sons, daughters, moms and dads, brothers and sisters, are being kept in Iraq by a cynical policy not only with no end in sight, but also one that our forces cannot ultimately resolve, and instead depends upon the actions of Iraqi factions and political leaders. Twelve (12) billion ($12B) of our tax dollars are being spent every MONTH, just waiting and waiting for others to act.
That''s a surrender of our national sovereignty.
And, here''s something the rest of us know, but may be a surprise for the McCainaanites: Iraqi political leaders do what they perceive to be in THEIR own interests, not because it may help the US. Our so-called political leaders live in a parallel universe, seeing events in Iraq from a US prism, and keep our brave troops in harms'' way to serve their own vanity, and for McCain, his Presidential ambitions.
Strained by the demands of a long war, the Army and the Marine Corps recruited significantly more felons into their ranks in 2007 than in 2006, including people convicted of armed robbery, arson and burglary, according to data ...
McCain supports giving Felons GUNS!
McShame supports Arming Felons with the latest military technologies so when the come back to the States - they can use them against us!
McSame supports teaching Felons how to kill Iraqis at first - then the felons will come home - find out there are no jobs or health-Care for them and the FELONS will start killing YOU to get what they want and need!
A Vote for McSAME is a vote for higher Crime rates in the United States!
Vote for Trained Killer Felons - Vote McCain!
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