
April 18, 2008
Dem: Clinton Vs. Obama Is A "Tea Party"
Political Players: Pa. Party Chairman, Clinton Supporter Says Primary Hasn't Been Negative Compared To Republican Attacks
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CBSNews.com: You’re chairman of the state party--and you’ve endorsed Senator Clinton. Most of the state chairs, and the state parties, are neutral. Why is Pennsylvania different?
T. J. Rooney: Well, there's nothing in our rules or bylaws that precludes me from endorsing. As I've expressed my personal opinion, I've said that the party itself has been scrupulously neutral. But you know, at the end of the day, I don't think I should be held to any standard that's different than any other Pennsylvania Democrat.
I have a strong preference. I've seen fit to express it. And there's nothing that says I can't or shouldn't.
CBSNews.com: What are you doing on her behalf?
T. J. Rooney: Well, I've been traveling the state, primarily with President Clinton, to small towns throughout Pennsylvania. I’m doing a lot of things, like speaking to good folks like yourself.
CBSNews.com: Let’s talk about some of what’s made news recently. Obviously, there’s the statement in San Francisco from Senator Obama. But does this really hurt him?
T. J. Rooney: Well, I think it's beginning to really manifest itself in terms of the damage that's been done. I'm sure Senator Obama had nothing but good intentions. But they were expressed really poorly and, most people would suggest, inappropriately.
You know, as I just mentioned, I've been traveling around the state with President Clinton. And we've heard about this in these small towns, and unsolicited. I mean, the president has not brought it up. I think one time he brought it up, a couple of days ago. But, unsolicited, people have come up, and they say, "Hey, listen. We want to make it clear. We are not a bitter people."
I mean, those folks who are deeply passionate about their religion, or deeply passionate about hunting and owning firearms, it's not out of some frustration. But rather, it's part of something in our culture. And it has been for generations.
So, while I know Senator Obama has a good heart, and probably didn't necessarily mean what he said, I think it just was kind of--for most Pennsylvanians that fit that description, that live in those small towns--I think it was kind of like a cold bucket of water being thrown on them. You know, many people were just taken aback.
And they're saying to themselves, you know, maybe what they're seeing along the campaign trail isn't what is real. And whether that's there or not, it's not for me to pass judgment. It's just an observation from traveling these last few weeks in these areas.
CBSNews.com: And what do you think the impact of the Reverend Wright scandal will be in Pennsylvania?
T. J. Rooney: Well, in the primary, it hasn't really been an issue. But I think where the Reverend Wright controversy could show up and do perhaps much more damage than has already been done would be in the fall election.
This Democratic race has been rather genteel. I mean, the criticism hasn't been nearly what it will be in the fall campaign. So, with respect to Reverend Wright, with respect to the comments that Senator Obama made in San Francisco about Pennsylvanians in small towns being bitter, I think the real damage from those remarks can really come in the fall.
CBSNews.com: Do you worry that these Democratic attacks on Senator Obama make the Republicans' job easier for them?
T. J. Rooney: With all due respect, the negative attacks really haven't been all that negative. And they really aren't attacks. There's been no mudslinging. I mean, this is a tea party compared to what the Republican attack machine is going to do to our nominee be it Senator Obama or Senator Clinton.
So pointing out facts like, Senator Obama’s got an ad up in Pennsylvania with millions of dollars behind it, saying he doesn't take money from oil companies. Well, you can't. I mean, for a hundred years, you can't take money from oil companies.
So, I pointed that out, that it was misleading, and the Obama campaign was quick to criticize me for being negative. My word. I mean, if that is considered a negative attack, what is going to come in the fall may come as a great surprise to some of these folks. This has not been, by any standard, a nasty primary campaign in our state.
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See all 87 CommentsHillary Whines about Barack''s So Called Media Free Pass, but not her Unfair Advantage.
Bill Clinton is out on the campaign trail and he is whining about the press coverage his wife is getting. Clinton said that the media ignores experience and looks at political issues which he claims have a %u201Chalf life of 15 seconds.%u201D
Sen. Hillary Clinton teared up this morning at an event at the Yale Child Study Center, where she worked while in law school in the early 1970s. Penn Rhodeen, who was introducing Clinton, began to choke up,...
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB
A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student.
In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college.
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.
Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton''s attorney general campaign, said he raped her in 1978;
From 1978-1980, during Clinton''s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.
Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have *** with him shortly after she won her state crown.
Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral ***.
Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation''s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress.
Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.
What an obnoxious, arrogant, clueless dolt - oh yeah, Hillary fared SO well when caught lying over the Bosnian sniper fire . . . stupid . . .
Law of the jungle states that camp Barack is better equipped to prevail in a survival of the fittest because Hillary''s only positive is her ability to sling mud. So fatty can stuff it . . .
More like why does this greaseball think he''s above the rules? CLEARLY a conflict of interest . . . gross!
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Oh an good news for Dems Obama other close Playmate of 17 years one he also denied knowing until it was discovered he actually spoke with Rezko daily and co purchased Obama mansion, who is on trial for corruption against our government, %u2026.has asked the Court to allow him bail again, during the remaining trial and vowing to not after all flee to his home country of Syria as the FBI charged
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Its time for the true Dem Base and Dem leadership to turn out in mass and swamp the crazy fringe of the Party before they become ruled by the party crazy like the Republicans did %u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026and demand DNC screaming Dean and Brazile be fired today
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She has her negatives. He has his! Of course, so one except Bill O''Reilly has even bothered looking for his negatives.
I feel such like Michelle Obama, for the first time in my life, I''m finally proud of Fox News.
Posted by neonink at 11:54 AM : Apr 18, 2008
You misunderstand he didn%u2019t throw his grandmother under the bus he was sliming condescending white women as bigots who cling to their bitter crippling fears making them incapable of seeing Obama%u2019s Greatness because they fear the predatory Blackman walking down same side of the street.
See Rubes, Racist white women of course otherwise they would Admire him greatly. PUKE his statements are beyond racist that they are outrageous.
there is somehting worng with this mans thinking it is beyond bitter
Posted by neonink at 11:54 AM : Apr 18, 2008
You misunderstand he didn%u2019t throw his grandmother under the bus he was sliming condescending white women as bigots who cling to their bitter crippling fears making them incapable of seeing Obama%u2019s Greatness because they fear the predatory Blackman walking down same side of the street.
See Rubes, Racist white women of course otherwise they would Admire him greatly. PUKE his statements are beyond racist the are outrageous.
of course, only a race-obsessed, self-loathing tyrant like Obama would apply that to the one person in his life that actually took care of him.
Posted by neonink
That''s the problem - that''s all she does, and he doesn''t do the same to her . . . like I pointed out, everybody''s got strengths and weaknesses and if her only strength is ability to point out others'' weaknesses, that doesn''t bode well for a general because it''s going to be mudslinger versus mudslinger.
Barack provides merit versus mudslinger, and since Dems have the upper hand on ideology, we stand a greater chance of winning with a candidate better able to capitalizes on our stregths rather than preying on our opponents'' weaknesses. Clearly, there''s room for disagreement, but the majority of have sided with my view. I think it''s a question of confidence is one''s ability . . . those who don''t have the ability to see the strengths of others but just the weaknesses seem to not be able to clearly see Barack''s superior competitive position.
A really good idealogue like Barack tends to be able to dominate so strongly on issues that they''ve got enough deposits in the bank to weather hardships such as Rev. Wright and the ''bitter'' controversy without even having to raise a fist. That doesn''t mean if it gets dirty he won''t go there.
of course, only a race-obsessed, self-loathing tyrant like Obama would apply that to the one person in his life that actually took care of him.
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Posted by neonink at 12:33 PM : Apr 18, 2008
Exactly that is just what a VICTIM, Obama in nothing if not constantly playing poor victim Obama, they attack and blame others for their won failings because the victim refuse to accept responsibility for them%u2026
Regardless he was calling White Women bigots just like he did the PA rubes clinging to fear of the Blackman with his little parable recall he compared her to GF who is really unimpressed with his resume and his team slandered as her a RACSIT
brilliant writing plus it offers a great community in which to discuss. The editor actually takes time to answer and the political humor section is awesome!!!
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But I can''t decide: Which one of the two *** in the accompanying picture controls the "machine"?
Hillary supporters have their heads in the sand and their fingers in their ears and simply keep repeating that superdelegates can save her because of electability.
But the superdelegates clearly see that her electability is poor. Why? Because they know that if she cant even beat an inexperienced, elitist, america hating, no good newcomer like Obama then she will be useless to the Democrats in november.
She only has a lead in superdelegates because they jumped on board with her last year before real campaigning had begun and when everyone automatically assumed she would win the nomination.
So, her POOR ELECTABILITY, explains why Obama has gained a massive advantage in superdelegates since super tuesday compared to duck hunting, pistol packing, beer swilling Hillary. And its her poor electability that completely deflates the superdelegate argument of the hanging by the fingernail Hillary supporters.
Go home Hillary; drop out with your head up high. Unless of course you''re ducking sniper fire again.
She knows she cannot win the pledged delegates or popular vote; and she knows superdelegates will not destroy the party by backing her, so she is simply hanging around pleading for the nomination in case Obama makes a fatal mistake.
What kind of a leader would prefer to win a Presidential Election on account of her opponents mistakes rather than her ability? How can Sen. Clinton manage the United States when she can%u2019t even run her own campaign.
And, as someone who used to toss down more than his share of shots, I have even more trouble imagining an evening at the local bar tossing back shots and beer with the Democratic Presidential pretender.
Yet claims of a hunting heritage and downing shots of Crown Royal and chasing it with a beer is part of Clinton''s pathetic attempt to prove she''s just one of us.
Memo to Hillary: You ain''t one of us, especially not with 109 million dollars in the pockets of your solid gold pant suits; so drop the charade, you are looking like a fool. We''re not looking for one of us. We''re looking for a leader.
Besides, if the phone rings at the White House at 3 a.m. and Hillary is spreadeagled across the bed, passed out in an alcohol-induced stupor, no one is available to answer the phone.
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Posted by jockh at 12:58 PM : Apr 18, 2008
All presidential candidates who make it this far into the process rely, in part, on the mistakes of their opponents. Obama is no different, except to those who are blinded by their partisan views, which seems to be common trait among Obama supporters and, perhaps, Obama himself.
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Posted by JACK3213 at 01:57 PM : Apr 18, 2008
Accusations are easy to make when you don''t have to provide anything of substance to back them up.
Go home Hillary; Posted by jockh at 12:57 PM : Apr 18, 2008
Repeat after me: To be the Democratic nominee for President, one must have earned 2025 delegate votes. Obama has yet to accumulate 2025 delegate votes. There are 10 more states left that have not had a say so in this primary. Until Obama has 2025 delegate votes, neither her nor any of his supporters have any business demanding the Clinton drop out. And as to poor electability, it remains to be seen whether Obama can even come close in November should he be the nominee. It''s winner take all in each state for electoral votes in the general election which is whole different ball game than the primaries.
And if Obama is so great why hasn''t he accumulated the required 2025 delegate votes he needs? And how do you call a 52 percent to 48 percent delegate lead "massive" except through you partisan colored glasses, particulary since 20 percent of the population has yet to vote?
Obama IS going to lose the general election no matter how hard Hillary campaigns for him (should she lose), BECAUSE you Obamanuts have virtually assured that Hillory supporters will NOT vote fr him UNDER ANY CIRCUMCES because of your mean, disrespectful words about a woman (you never met or him for that matter)and not give her the respect she deserves.
I would rather see McCain in the WH rather than this anti-american and his anti-american wife(never been proud of America). The republicans are going to have a sure and swift road to the WH if this half-black guy(I call him half-black guy because he wants to call hisself "BLACK" even though her''s half-white,That is serious denial)is the nominee.
The republicans are going to have a sure and swift road to the WH if this half-black guy(I call him half-black guy because he wants to call hisself "BLACK" even though her''''s half-white,That is serious denial)is the nominee.
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Posted by rjudy3 at 02:39 PM : Apr 18, 2008
Speaking for all of the half black/white people of the world you''re full of sh*t just like Hillary
Also: Clinton was not so bad as she really is.
A group of gunowners endorsed obama yestreday. Why? Because he supported legislation that would prevent the government from confiscating individual handguns in "national emergency" and Hillary opposed it.
Speaking of making accusations without substance, how are Obama supporters more blinded than Clinton supporters or McCain supporters?
You''re just another spinmeister lacking in any substance yourself.
McCain had not secured the full number of delegates he needed when his opponents saw the hadnwriting on the wall and dropped out. They didn''t want to sink their party for personal gain that wasn''t going to happen anyway.
For all intents and purposes Hillary lost any reasonable chance of being nominated in the aftermath of Super Tuesday when she lot 11 contests in a row. Only the real cultists are too blind to see this even now.
Hillary can stay in right to the Convention if she wants but she owes it to the public to actually run and not just play spoiled spoiler.
A little humility and loyalty to the party that gave her 8 years in the White House would also be nice. Instead, the woman who stayed wih a philandering piece of *** husband now whines about Obama being able to choose his Preacher.
If the Clintons were a sitcom they would''ve been pulled long ago.
Don''t stop thinking about tomorrow, yesterday''s gone!
Ray Schoenke, founding president A former football player for the Washington Redskins, Schoenke ran for Governor of Maryland as a Democrat and has given "millions" to Democratic politicians and causes according to a January 19, 1998 Washington Post article. Among the groups that Schoenke has donated to are two that actively lobby to ban firearms: Handgun Control, Inc. and America Coming Together. Schoenke was on the Governor''s Commission on Gun Violence in 1996.
Bob Ricker, executive director
Joseph J. Vince, Jr., a member of the Board of Directors is the former chief of the BATF''s crime guns analysis branch. Currently, he is a principal of Crime Gun Solutions. HCI has hired Crime Gun Solutions in order to support numerous gun control laws, to support HCI''s lawsuits against firearm dealers and he was a signer on a letter submitted to Congress opposing the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act
This is the so-called gun owners group who endorse Barack, realpatriot.
I would rather see McCain in the WH rather than this anti-american and his anti-american wife(never been proud of America)."rjudy3 lol I am quite sure you dont see the irony in that statement.
It seems that more of those small town people in Pennsylvania enjoy a fresh brewed Latte more than Hilary thought.
trial ends!!!
And he won''t deny it.
him feel at home
Your right yesterday is gone. We have to worry about tomorrow, and that is why we can''t afford another mistake. Obama would be a bigger mistake than Bush and not many people have that claim to fame.
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