April 17, 2008 10:42 AM

Democratic Debate's Winner: McCain?

(The Nation)  This column was written by John Nichols.
And the winner of the 21st debate of the Democratic presidential race is...

Right-Wing Talking Points.

At a moment when even John McCain agrees that the American economy is in a recession, when the U.S. trade deficit is breaking records, when the vice president and the secretary of state stand accused of organizing torture parties in Washington, when the president has gotten us bogged down in two foreign quagmires, and when official gaming of globalization has stirred up food riots around the world, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton spent most of the last debate before the critical Pennsylvania primary trying to out-FOX one another.

Instead of engaging in a needed discussion about economic issues - especially the trade policies that are devastating the Keystone State and so much of the rest of the country - the Democratic contenders sounded as if they were reading outtakes from a particularly lame Bill O'Reilly program.

To be fair, this was not entirely the fault of the candidates. The line of questioning from ABC "News" personalities Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos - Wednesday night's moderators, who pummeled Obama for most of the night - almost made a viewer long for a long-winded intervention by the CNN's self-absorbed but reasonably serious Wolf Blitzer. And the questions from viewers appeared to have been selected with the purpose of raising doubts about whether these people may be spending just a little too much time listening to Rush Limbaugh.

There were, of course, inquiries about the Rev, Jeremiah Wright Jr., including a demand that Obama explain whether he thinks an ex-Marine who raised legitimate questions about U.S. foreign policy should be considered "patriotic." Clinton made a bad moment worse by bringing up Hamas and Minister Louis Farrakhan in an obvious attempt to link Wright - and by extension Obama - to groups and individuals who do not get an especially free ride in U.S. media.

Clinton's trip to Bosnia was revisited, as was a comment she made 16 years ago about baking cookies.

Obama got asked why he does not wear a flag pin.

And both candidates were prodded by millionaire media personalities to talk about "elitism."

But the absolute low point of a debate that rarely left the low road came when former Clinton aide Stephanopoulos asked Obama about his meetings with Bill Ayers, a 1960s Weather Underground radical who went on to become a college professor.
Obama said he did not think he should be held to account for something someone he knows did "40 years ago when I was 8 years old."

Then, sounding more like Sean Hannity than a former anti-war activist from the '60s, Clinton said, "I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position. And if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after (Ayers') reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11, and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more... I know Senator Obama is a good man, and I respect him greatly. But I think this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising."

Remarkably, Obama went down the Hannity hole with Clinton, complaining that Clinton's husband, when he served as president, "pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act than me serving on a board with somebody for actions that he did 40 years ago."

This was an ugly, unilluminating debate that neglected meaningful concerns because so much time was spent introducing what had been the silly side issues of the far right to the mainstream discourse. It was especially rough on Obama. But there was no winner, expect, perhaps, John McCain.
By John Nichols
Reprinted with permission from The Nation

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by parachutepol April 19, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
Look! Sen.Obama is a good man trying to fix some of the problem that divides us. Get it!
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by it_oldtimer April 19, 2008 1:38 AM EDT
McSame, you are such a despicable w*h*o*r*e for the right wing s*l*u*t*s -- you should feel so filthy for letting them use you this way!
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by it_oldtimer April 19, 2008 1:31 AM EDT
Good bye, Hillary, good bye! It was nice knowing you! Too bad you were such an insufferable, self-aggrandizing ***!
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by ajmarine1 April 19, 2008 12:37 AM EDT
erasmus,


A special woman?


There''s the women I''d have s*x with,
and there''s the women I''d wanna have s*x with,
and there''s the women I have s*x with.

And then there''s you.


Tim McLaughlin



Until 1:00 AM.

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by rushlimpdrug April 18, 2008 10:57 PM EDT

Did anyone wake up Mclame to tell him he won the debate?

If/when they wake him up straighten him out about the sunni/shiite guys.
He may have forgotten.
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by perceptions5 April 18, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
One thing is for sure, Obama is a "product" of the most corrupt institution in America today, our mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press.

Just like Hilter was promoted by Joseph Gobbels, this Obama guy is being promoted in much the same manner, mass propaganda campaigns by his fellow admirers in our elite liberal press.

This isn''''t exactly the "separation" that our Founding Fathers wanted between our "press and state".

We need major reforms within our "free left-wing press".

No question about it........ask Saturday Night Live

ps. The Nation is a member of the Pro-Obama movement too...........like I had to tell everyone that.

Really sad indeed.........
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by vmcneal2 April 18, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
Yeah, just wait..because the Terrorists better run and hide, Maverick McCain will not take threats against the U.S.


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Posted by JoeCoolSwat at 04:57 PM : Apr 18, 2008


John McSame should take care of his wifes drug problem before he goes after the bad guys.
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by joecoolswat April 18, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
Yeah, just wait..because the Terrorists better run and hide, Maverick McCain will not take threats against the U.S.
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by noloyalisti April 18, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
Can you imagine the war-mongering mcBush being president. He is a crazy angry Bush on steroids. You think the conservative lunatics have made it bad for us now? Just wait until the corporate media fascists select this lunatic.
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by glenncinca-2009 April 18, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
To Wakeup60
You are obviously a true wacko. The institution you must be posting from should unplug your internet cable.
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