Carter’s Role In Legitimizing Hamas

Weekly Standard: Former President May Have Altruistic Motives But His Visit Is Imprudent And Dangerous

(Weekly Standard)  This column was written by Matthew Levitt.

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Imagine the Alice in Wonderland scene that will take place later this week, when U.S. Secret Service agents entrusted with protecting former president Jimmy Carter stand guard over a meeting with the head of a designated terrorist group responsible for near daily attacks targeting civilians, including numerous attacks in which American citizens have been injured and killed. The former president may have altruistic motives, but his meeting with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is both imprudent and dangerous.

Last week, Hamas confirmed press reports that Mashaal will host Carter in Damascus for a meeting on April 18. Hamas must have taken special pleasure announcing the presidential meeting the same week the State Department issued the latest version of its annual Foreign Terrorist Organizations list. Fifth from the top is Hamas, a charter member of this select group, reinstated every year since the list's inception in 1995. Carter's visit sends the message that Hamas need not fret over the designation -- he is willing to accept the group as it is, terrorism notwithstanding, and others may well follow.

The former president is not alone in his call for engaging Hamas; his former national security adviser is among the prominent voices advocating the idea. Since Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, the theory goes, it must be brought into the political process, not isolated, or else there is no hope for peace. But Hamas is dead set against a two-state solution, as its refusal to disavow the use of violence makes clear. Whenever negotiators have come close to some type of Israeli-Palestinian agreement Hamas has carried out attacks specifically aimed at derailing progress toward peace. According to declassified U.S. intelligence, cells under Mashaal’s supervision "have been implicated in efforts by Hamas to plan large attacks that would undermine the road map peace plan." Engaging Hamas will not help the peace process; it will legitimize the group most violently opposed to such progress.

Because of its commitment to violence targeting civilians, engaging Hamas in overt diplomacy when the group remains dedicated to the use of violence is unwise, even if well-intentioned. Hamas rains rockets and mortars on Israeli civilians living near the border with Gaza on a daily basis, the group recently carried out a suicide bombing in the Israeli city of Dimona, it continues to hold an Israeli soldier captive and recently threatened to kill him, and it lauds the attacks other groups carry out from the Gaza Strip it controls. According to an Israeli report released this week, Hamas is engaged in its most significant arms buildup to date, including some 80 tons of explosives, roadside bombs, and longer range rockets capable of targeting Israeli communities deeper in Israel. Hamas stockpiles most of its weapons in the Gaza Strip, but maintains weapons caches in the West Bank as well, such as the stockpile of 200 kilograms of fertilizer and gunpowder seized in Qalqilya this week.

Indeed, directly engaging Hamas would not only empower a terrorist group designated by the United States and the European Union, it would pull the carpet out from under Palestinian moderates who are truly interested in pursuing peace and are trying to contest support for Hamas through non-violent means. American and European officials alike have shunned Hamas over the group's continued use of terrorism and political violence, despite the group's electoral victory in January 2006, united in their shared position that politics and terrorism cannot go hand in hand -- elections notwithstanding.

The theory that Hamas is not going to go away and must therefore be directly engaged is similarly flawed. Engaging Hamas without the group having to first commit to non-violence would signal Hamas and likeminded groups from Lebanon to Iraq that they need not moderate their tactics to be recognized by the international community. Last June, Hamas militants aimed their weapons not at Israel but at fellow Palestinians and took over the Gaza Strip by force. The message Carter's visit sends to violent Islamist groups throughout the region is clear: Terrorism and politics truly go hand in hand; there is no need to forfeit the former to engage in the latter.

Mashaal, himself a U.S. designated terrorist, embodies this message, publicly playing the role of Hamas political leader while privately playing a hands-on role in Hamas terrorism. Announcing the August 2003 designation, the Treasury Department noted that some cells in the Hamas military wing based in the West Bank are under Mashaal’s control. Mashaal, Treasury found, "has been responsible for supervising assassination operations, bombings and the killing of Israeli settlers." He "maintains a direct link" to Hamas in the Gaza Strip "to execute Hamas military activities."

This is not to say we can close our eyes and imagine Hamas away. The fact is that communication is not the same as engagement. There are plenty of ways for the United States to communicate with Hamas without openly engaging the group as a legitimate actor. Whether through Egyptian, Palestinian, or other interlocutors, there are multiple ways the U.S. could -- and surely does -- communicate with Hamas. Bestowing on Hamas in general, and Khaled Mashaal in particular, the legitimacy of an audience with a former president of the United States suggests something much more than just a desire to communicate or even engage with Hamas -- it suggests a level of acceptance for the organization and its tactic of targeting civilians. No good will come of it.

[samthetvcat]

"but his meeting with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is both imprudent and dangerous"

I wish there could be at least one journalist who could objectively explain the big picture AND explain why meeting with warring factions is ''imprudent'' or ''dangerous'' or whatever. Otherwise, there''s no way to tell whether it''s just more Bush-doctrine (given the parallels the policy with Iran), or whether there really is no imprudence or danger associated with meeting warring factions . . .

[samthetvcat]

PS But given the frequency with which journalists try and fail to expound in depth with any sort of objectivity, the tendency is to think maybe there''s not a lot of depth to be had . . .

[samthetvcat]

PPS But if that assumption is wrong, then that would be unfortunate that that impression is being given due to ineptitude on the part of journalists like those from the Weekly Standard . . .

[rayuk-2009]

As usual the Weekly Standard is not prone to have an objective thought. Why does CBS honor such trash and jibberish.

[afmca]

We talked to the Nazis prior to WWII. We had diplomatic relations with Japan prior to WWII. We had summits with Russia while their nukes were pointed at us. We are selling out our country to China as they steal our military and business secrets. Could it be the real reasons it is BAD talking to Hamas, Iran, etc. is because it pisses of the Jewish bloc that would rather control the propaganda flow and for Repubs it is easier to dismiss them because they are Muslim so their views are not important. Talking never killed anyone; not talking has resulted in a lot of death.

[noloyalisti]

We should listen to the Weakly and start pre-emptive wars all over the world for Christian jihad. We should torture and spy and work against diplomacy because they all want to kill us because we are free. Oh yeah, we also have a wasteful, consuming, hurtful lifestyle that they all want to emulate. Good job Weakly.

[tburzio]

We did not start a war in Iraq, we declared that the cease fire had been violated and was no longer in effect, after much warnings. The war was started by Iraq, and after 9/11 we didn''t want to hear their excuses any more.

[bluestardad]

HEY YOU ISRAELI NEOCONS! AMERICA IS TIRED OF FIGHTING YOUR WARS OVER A BUNCH OF ROCKS!

AMERICA NEVER RECOGNIZED CHINA FOR 35 YEARS BUT THAT DID NOT MEAN THEY WERE NOT A PEOPLE TO BE RESPECTED AND NOW THEY ARE FUNDING THE WAR IN IRAQ FOR THE NEOCON BASE! SO JUST THINK IF HAMAS IS RECGONIZED MAYBE SOME GOOD WILL COME OUT OF IT! AT LEAST THE AID MONEY THE WORLD IS SENDING THE PALESTIANIANS WILL STOP GOING THRU ISRAELI BANKS BEFORE IT GOES TO THE PEOPLE WHO IT IS MEANT FOR!

GOOD JOB JIMMY!


AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP!

[ubrew12]

Article: "The former president may have altruistic motives, but his meeting with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is both imprudent and dangerous"

Yes. Having non-altruistic motives in the Middle East has done so much for us so far...

afmca said: "Talking never killed anyone; not talking has resulted in a lot of death."

Talking ''kills'' neocons who place their ego''s above other peoples lives.

[ubrew12]

tburzio said: "We did not start a war in Iraq, The war was started by Iraq,"

Polishing that *** doesn''t make it smell any better.

[Razzl]

Carter is just mirroring Bush as the political face of the larger public''s weariness with the conflict which the Israel lobby has imposed on the rest of us (i.e., the 96% of the American public that has no ethnic or religious ties to Israel). Since the neocons are the intellectual vanguard of the Israel lobby, and since the Weekly Standard and National Review Online are its propaganda wing, it would be hard to take any of this earnest analysis without a grain of salt. The public is restless and increasingly prone to openly blame Israel for its conduct since the Lebanon fiasco, so the days for uncompromising demands of moral purity from Hamas and others before being willing to engage them may be over...

[noloyalisti]

Wasn''t that an ignorant right wing bullet point before we started our massacre, invasion and occupation of Iraq? That they were bombing themselves because they would not willingly turn over their country to the American conquerors?

I was not fooled by the neo con lies. I was also suspicious of the World Trade Center demolition and their lies about the Al Quada terrorists. If they were able to fool Bush''s government and military, we have way worse problems that a few thousand Americans dead.

[bluestardad]

WE TALKED TO CHINA OVER 35 YEARS AGO FOR THE FIRST TIME! SINCE 1945!

IT IS TIME TO TALK TO HAMAS AND IRAN AND DO SO WITH RESPECT!

AMERICANS STAND UP OR SHUT UP!

[downsteamjim]

A few other great Jimmy Carter momment:
Just after Sadat was assassinated, Jimmy Carter got on national TV and said Sadat was ok.
Help in estabilishing the present radical Iran.
The Great Rabbit Attack.

[jlwesley]

James Earl Carter, is and always has been a spineless, irrelevant, twit. If he had stood up to the "Students" that attacked and overran out embassy in Tehran and Nuked the country back into the stone ages, we would not have the problems we now have in the Middle East. Instead he turned the other cheek and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that this country is made up of pansies that talk big but wont back it up and every time one of the liberal demycraps opens their mouth calling for our withdrawal from Iraq, we prove it all over again.

Shame on you Jimmie Carter,

[johnshaft4]

God Bless Jimmy Carter. At least he is trying to bring peace as compared to the greedy, war mongering Israelis.

[downsteamjim]

Having Jimmy Carter working for peace is like having Typhoid Mary working at McDonalds.

[pepperp1]

Obama and Carters approach here is wrong, Bush will be gone in Jan this was not an honorable thing for Carter to do. I am remind that as Obama was assuring voters he was anti NAFTA but with a nod and wink he sent an aid to another government to assure them it was campaign rhetoric, when he claimed he would definitely have troops out of Iraq in 16 months he sent Powers with another nod and a wink to England to assure them that was just campaign talk a silly though, today Obama meet with Jewish leaders to assure them that he dose not support Rev Wrights anti Semitic rants and now we have another nod and a wink Carter an Obama supporters wink wink meeting with Israeli enemy and an enemy of the Evil Empire the United States Hamas..

[scottyusa]

Maybe we should be talking to both sides in this dispute but we must not take sides. That has been the problem. Israel is our ally so we tend to be biased and side with them in their disputes. The fact that Israel exists today after WWII was not the doing of the United States yet we are hated because they are our ally. If Carter did, by some miricle, manage to get these two states together that would be a major embarrasment to the president and his foreign policy of ignoring your enemies unless you are aiming at them.

[irliberal]

The headline might as well have read "Pope picks nose" or "SinginRick finds image of Jesus in morning pancake".

WHERE IS BIN LADEN? That has really been the only relevant question that needs asking since the invasion of Afghanistan.

Seven years of war. Civil rights breached by our commander in chief. Internationally recognized torture sanctioned by the White House. Two invaded and currently occupied countries. Hundreds of thousands dead, including OVER 4000 American soldiers. Billions of our tax dollars spent, and yes, are still being spent to this very moment.

Iraq, which had NOTHING to do with 9/11, is now an occupied country which will implode when we get out of it, whether that happens one, two, ten or five hundred years from now. A society that CHOOSES to be ruled by religion cannot become a democracy; it can only be a theocracy with voting cards.

Bin Laden still lives. The mastermind of 9/11 still walks free.

The one, simple word for this is: failure. No amount of deception, indignation or wailing by republicons can change these facts.

Failure of Bush. Failure of Cheney. Failure of the republicans.

Time for a change.

[ubrew12]

Sure Weakly Standard: Jimmy Carter is singlehandedly ''legitimizing'' Hamas. The Palestinian voters had nothing to do with that.

wesleyjl said: "If [Carter] had stood up to the "Students" that attacked and overran out embassy in Tehran and Nuked the country back into the stone ages, we would not have the problems we now have in the Middle East. "
No, somehow I think our problems would be with MORE than just the Middle East. People like you conveniently forget that WE OVERTHREW THEIR DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT and imposed our man as dictator. After 20 years and THOUSANDS dead, they got their country back. They''ve been hating us ever since. They have never invaded us, but we have DEFINITELY invaded THEM!

[cicada786]

ubrew12 your facts are all fiction. What part of the children''s section of the library do get your stories

[apprxam]

Since Dayton, the Palestinians were critizied for not following through on opportunities to peace. But the last seven years of no communications have been dark and unfruitful. Something has to change and someone has to speak to the other side. Carter has nothing to lose since being deemed the nation''s number one Anti-Israeli.

This chain of silence has to be broken in order for progress to be made. Hopefully, and that''s a big one, Hamas will begin to see the advantage in dealing with someone other than Syria and Iran. They can''t trust Bush, that can''t trust Rice and they can''t trust the EU. Trust has to start somewhere and maybe that can begin with Carter. I truely believe he wants a fair solution to this difficult problem.

[apprxam]

CIcada, do you have a different, grown-up version to share about America''s relation with Iran?

[apprxam]

I wonder if Mr. Levitt ever said "imprudent and dangerous" in regards to the push for invasion of Iraq by his cowardly Neo-Clown friends.

[ubrew12]

cicada786 said: "ubrew12 your facts are all fiction. What part of the childrens section of the library do get your stories "

Do you have a different understanding of the overthrow of Mosaddeq? Do you know who he is?

Maybe the problem is you''ve spent too much time in the adult section of the library, reading about Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.

American ignorance ASTONISHES the rest of the world.

[bluestardad]

THE SAME NEOCONS WHOS FATHERS WERE NOT FOR TALKING TO CHINA ARE NOW TAKING MONEY FROM CHINA TO FUND THE IRAQ WAR!

GO FIGURE!

GOOD JOB JIMMY TALK TO HAMAS!


CLINTON WANTS TO SET A NUCLEAR SHIELD OVER ISRAEL!

ITS ABOUT TIME AMERICA GOT OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST BEFORE WE LET OUR BLIND DEVOTION TO ISRAEL GET US INTO REAL TROUBLE!

AMERICANS STAND UP OR SHUT UP!

[ubrew12]

bluestardad said: "ITS ABOUT TIME AMERICA GOT OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST BEFORE WE LET OUR BLIND DEVOTION TO ISRAEL GET US INTO REAL TROUBLE!"

Well, here''s one lib who thinks Israel has a definite right to exist, even a right America should be willing to stand up and defend. That doesn''t stop us from desiring a solution to the Palestinian problem that involves more than shooting at them. Too many people (read: Yassir Arafat) have made too much money promoting Arab-Israeli tension. We need to take the profit out of the picture, get everyone on board for making money the ''old fashioned way'', and terrorism will go bye-bye. Carter is on the right track in talking. Bush, as usual, takes the hard line and loses a chance at real, constructive, dialog.

Ireland holds some clues on how to resolve the Palestinian issue. That requires something more than ignoring an entire Palestinian people and then insisting you had backbone cuz you didn''t do anything about the problem.

[ubrew12]

ApprxAm said: "[Palestinians] can''t trust Bush, that can''t trust Rice and they can''t trust the EU. Trust has to start somewhere and maybe that can begin with Carter. I truely believe he wants a fair solution to this difficult problem."

Thats right. The whole issue is trust, and who better than a nobel peace prize winner to start the dialog.

And those peace prize winners are kinda hard to find among the neocons (snicker!).


[BTW, ApprxAm, keep posting. Your posts are knowledgeable and informative. Not the disinformation one battles here constantly]

[ramos937]

Attila, the Hun centuries ago, had the intent to sack Rome, the eternal city a very long time ago. The Pope of that time sent word to Attila that he wanted to talk. They met and Attila spared Rome. History is full of examples like this.

Hamas is real and active. To ignore it is a mistake. Carter''s meeting with Hamas can be the start of a very real peace process. Rice and company need to check their egos at the door and meet with all parties.

[juwboy]

ubrew12 said:

"Ireland holds some clues on how to solve the Palestinian issue".

Let''s see now ...

First you hold a peace conference which results in a (Good Friday) Peace Agreement that is ratified by a referendum. Then one side begins to implement the terms of the agreement, while the other drags its feet and does nothing, which causes ***-for-tat retaliation and both sides do nothing.

The citizens start to get restless, so an election is held at the urging of Tony Blair''s British government in order to consolidate the positions of the (moderate) political parties and facilitate the restarting of the implementation of the terms of the peace agreement.

It doesn''t go according to plan. The voters turf out the moderates and elect the extremist DUP and Sinn Fein/IRA parties to power.

Ian Paisley of the DUP totally REFUSES TO TALK to Jerry Adams of the IRA until the IRA destroys its weapons and recognises the authority of the Northern Ireland police and judiciary.

Result: the IRA puts its weapons out of use, recognises the authority of the police and judiciary and the current metastable bonhomie among Northern Ireland''s politicians is created.

The bonhomie among the politicians, however, is not reflected on the streets of Northern Ireland where sectarian incidents occur DAILY.

Anyway, the lesson for Israel is clear.

Israel should REFUSE TO TALK to Hamas until it disarms and recognises Israel''s right to exist.

[juwboy]

ROTFLMAO!!!

CBS censored "t-it-for-tat retaliation"

[brianbwb-2009]

Hamas was legitimately elected by the people to lead them, they have no need to have Mr. Levitt confer "legitimacy" upon them.

Mr. Carter is also not "conferring legitimacy" upon a legitimately elected leadership, he is recognizing the fact that we must talk to the elected leaders of people if we are to understand and work toward a positive relationship with them.

In fact, it is the group of people who preach Democracy, then deny the Palestinians the right to be served by the leadership it elects, that need to prove their own "legitimacy"...

[sheila2u-2009]

OUT WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY....A SENILE OLD BIGOT. TIME FOR HIM TO MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS. HOW DARE HE GET IN THE MIDST OF THIS MESS OVER THERE !!

[Razzl]

"CBS censored "t-it-for-tat retaliation"

LOL, don''t feel bad, you also can''t spell the Vice President''s first name on this blog either. It''s prude city, baby...

[sheila1346]

I must say I am surprised how ignorant of the facts most people are about the situation in the middle east. The only possible way to begin to even discuss change in the middle east is to do exactly what President Carter is doing. I believe he has great courage to do what he is doing. The Hamas government was elected by a vote of the people of Palestine and there for they must be seen as the legitimate government. I have great respect for the Israelis and for Israel but their government like our own is way out of control and they intend to commit genocide on the Palestinian people unless someone stands up and tells them they must stop.

Carter is such a dope, nope that''s dupe. Reminds me of the preacher in the movie who insists the savages are amenable to discussions while attacking the settlers, goes out with arms outstretched, Bible in upthrust hand, spouting "brotherly love" stuff, and gets gunned down by the people he was trying to talk into peaceful resolution of their differences. Doesn''t bother me to see the preacher killed, but hate to see the settlers have to pay the price for his incompetent and ineffectual meddling. Guess Jimmy didn''t take brother Billy to see that movie in Plains.

[glock4me]

Israel should stop messing around and wipe out those terrorist scumbags. They have repeatedly shown the ability to totally kick a$$ while completely surrounding and fighting multiple enemies (e.g., 1947, 1967, 1973... 2009 maybe?)

[dgwooster]

Interesting how the writer never pointed out that the US engaged terrorists from Northern Ireland in negotiations recently.

And what happened? Peace broke out.

[juwboy]

dgwooster, read my Comment at 5.41AM, 4/17, to find out why you''re wrong.

Peace didn''t break out in Northern Ireland where it mattered -- in the towns and on the streets. Sectarian violence has continued DAILY since the so-called "Peace Agreement". All you have to do is check the Northern Ireland News pages at the BBC site and also the Belfast Telegraph site.

If everything''s so peaceful there, why are they still planning and building "peace walls" to keep Protestants and Catholics apart?

The Good Friday "agreement" was an agreement between POLITICIANS only and both of the Northern Ireland political parties that signed the agreement, the UUP and SDLP, are now moribund as a direct result of their participation in the talks.

The only tangible achievement was an end to the bombing of ENGLISH cities by the IRA.

I''ll repeat. The violence goes on.

[juwboy]

brianbwb:

Yes, Hamas was elected legitimately in "free and fair" elections but one of their first acts was the elimination of their political opponents so that free and fair elections can never be held again.

In 1933, Hitler was also elected legitimately and immediately proceeded to eliminate his political opponents so that free and fair elections could never be held again.

If Gaza is a democracy, why are the families of former Fatah members denied treatment in Gaza''s hospitals?

[obama8years]

Read About Rev Wright and Obama ties to Hamas

canadafreepress.com/index.php/ article/2462

Isnt Jimmy Carter for Hamas and Rev Wright is Pro Hamas and Jimmy Carter is for Obama. Things are starting to make sense.

[it_oldtimer]

Go Jimmy! It''s about time SOMEBODY had the balls to at least talk openly to "the opposition".

[joyous88]

This is a stupidly ridiculous piece of propaganda,

it must have originated on GW Bush''s desk.

Bush in the beginning,refused to compromise or talk

to the North Koreans, he is now forced to make deals

with them. He has continued to ostrasize Cuba,

refusing to talk with Fidel Castro, we can all see how

much that ridiculous move has accomplished after the

last 50 years.

Now while giving lip service to freedom and democracy

he refuses to engage with the democratically elected

government ''Hamas'' while hugging a country that

commits equally disgusting human rights violations at

will ''Israel''

Bush does not want to give any credibility to the

elected government in Iran, they now have a start,

like North Korea, on nuclear weapons, yet ever

stubborn, Bush continues on this insane path.

Carter is the only person making a real attempt at

peace in the middle east, he should be made President

of the United States, he has done more good in a few

months than Bush has done in eight years.

[joyous88]

They have peace today in Northern Ireland because

someone with courage , not Bush, started a discussion

with the so-called terrorists there.

and a terrorist is the person out of power at the time

of the name-calling