LOS ANGELES, April 17, 2008

"Black Widows" Guilty In Homeless Murders

Calif. Duo Convicted In Scheme To Collect $2.8M In Insurance Payouts After Staged Hit-And-Runs

    • These photos released by the Los Angeles Police Department show insurance fraud suspects Helen Golay, left, and Olga Rutterschmidt, at a news conference Thursday, May 18, 2006, in Los Angeles. Photo

      These photos released by the Los Angeles Police Department show insurance fraud suspects Helen Golay, left, and Olga Rutterschmidt, at a news conference Thursday, May 18, 2006, in Los Angeles.  (AP Photo/LAPD)

    • Helen Golay, 77, listens as guilty verdicts are read against her in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom on Wednesday, April 16, 2007. Photo

      Helen Golay, 77, listens as guilty verdicts are read against her in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom on Wednesday, April 16, 2007.  (AP Photo/Luis Sinco, Pool)

    • Olga Rutterschmidt, charged with murdering two homeless men to collect insurance payouts, listens to the partial verdicts being read on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 in Los Angeles. Photo

      Olga Rutterschmidt, charged with murdering two homeless men to collect insurance payouts, listens to the partial verdicts being read on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 in Los Angeles.  (AP Photo/Luis Sinco, Pool)

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    Jurors came to a partial verdict in the trial of two grannies who were convicted of collecting more than $2.8 million from the insurance proceeds of two homeless men they befriended and killed. Mark Coogan reports.

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(CBS/AP)  A Los Angeles jury has convicted a second elderly woman of murdering a homeless man in an insurance scheme.

The jury was deadlocked Thursday on another murder count and a conspiracy count against 75-year-old Olga Rutterschmidt.

She was convicted of murdering Kenneth McDavid. The judge has ordered the panel to reconvene Monday to try to decide the other two counts involving victim Paul Vados.

Rutterschmidt's co-defendant Helen Golay, 77, was found guilty Wednesday of the first-degree murders of Kenneth McDavid, 50, in 2005 and Paul Vados, 73, in 1999. The jury also convicted her of conspiracy to murder for financial gain counts in both killings.

From the start, the defendants' advanced ages kept the case in the headlines, drawing comparisons to the play and film "Arsenic and Old Lace," the Los Angeles Times reported. The killings came to be known as the Black Widow murders.

Prosecutors said the women collected $2.8 million from insurance policies on the lives of two homeless men who were killed in staged hit-and-run incidents.

Golay's convictions carry potential sentences of life in prison without possibility of parole. The single conspiracy count returned against Rutterschmidt carries a sentence of 25 years to life.

Jurors' struggles on some counts became evident Tuesday when they handed in some sealed verdicts and continued deliberating. On Wednesday, the panel asked for readings of testimony by three witnesses and a laptop to review DVDs entered in evidence.

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They didn't need this money. They weren't poor and destitute. They went out of their way to target men who had nothing.

Deputy District Attorney Bobby Grace
The women showed no reaction to the verdicts. Golay sat with her head close to her attorney and read along as the court clerk went through the charges.

"Basically the ladies did not do very well today," Roger Jon Diamond, the attorney for Golay, said afterward.

But he said he was confident there were significant issues to raise on appeal of Golay's conviction.

Diamond said a key issue would be whether it was proper for the judge to admit a videotaped conversation between the women which was surreptitiously recorded by authorities while they were in a holding cell.

He said he felt the overall defense was harmed by the decision of Rutterschmidt's lawyer to attack Golay and suggest she was a killer.

Rutterschmidt's attorney did not comment.

Experts said the defendants made the prosecution's job easier by turning on each other, the Times reports. Attorneys for both women conceded in their closing arguments that McDavid was murdered, but each pinned the killing on the other.

Prosecutors said the women recruited their prey from among the homeless of Hollywood, invested thousands of dollars in insurance policies on them and in putting them up in apartments, then drugged them and ran them over in secluded alleys.

Both men initially appeared to have been victims of hit-and-run accidents, and police only linked the cases in late 2005 when a detective investigating one case overheard a colleague describe a very similar case.

In his closing argument, Deputy District Attorney Bobby Grace called the women "the worst of the worst."

"They didn't need this money. They weren't poor and destitute. They went out of their way to target men who had nothing," the prosecutor said.

Defense lawyers admitted the women were involved in insurance fraud but denied a murder conspiracy.

"We'll concede it's pretty sleazy what's going on here with the insurance," Diamond said in his closing. He said the idea was to insure old, sick homeless people who would die more quickly.

But prosecutors pointed out that most of the policies were for accidental death, not death due to natural causes.

By the end of the five-week trial, the women had turned on each other.

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by apprxam April 16, 2008 11:30 PM PDT
Wow, really? This case takes "stating the obvious" to a lenthy and hightened extreme. What the heck took so long? OJ, Phil Spector.....L.A. is a bad place for justice.
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by ranger1948 April 16, 2008 11:39 PM PDT
I don''t care how old they are, these women are cold and heartless as well as greedy. They should receive no sympathy. I hope they get the maximum sentence allowed by law
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by hissteps4u April 17, 2008 12:43 AM PDT
Lastdance no one cares about your rants you need Valium no doubt about it...... Mellow out you need a life
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by bdrlnt4rl April 17, 2008 12:55 AM PDT
i want to see the movie!!!!!!!!
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by michellem99-2009 April 17, 2008 1:02 AM PDT
That is greed..the ladies..the bloody dollar and they could care less so they be seniors but they wrote their ticket..ranger1948,ye know we were talking about the death penity at table and my friend told me this*they don''t care if they live or die,,life is meaningless to the likes of them.* They don''t got any pity here..
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by megamanx1-2009 April 17, 2008 1:21 AM PDT
LIFE IN PRISON...

WHAT IS THAT LIKE 6 MONTHS, A YEAR TOPS BEFORE THEY ARE DEAD ANYWAY LOL
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by bequialife April 17, 2008 1:51 AM PDT
oh, dear, I thought the teenagers were getting younger and more violent! Now we have to worry about the elderly! Geez, what is a goin on here?
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by timmy63 April 17, 2008 2:13 AM PDT
all people that take advantage of the homeless like these ladies have,should get the DEATH PENALTY,THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALMOST NOTHING,the KINGS JAMES BIBLE,says THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL,two weeks after these women are found guilty,they should be PUT TO DEATH, no long appeal proses,sincerly,timmy63
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by keithle1 April 17, 2008 3:42 AM PDT
This is the problem when you''re retired. Too much time on your hands.
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by johngoodnews April 17, 2008 4:53 AM PDT
What horrible people. Trying to forgive people like that would try the faith of even the best Christian.
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by swwils April 17, 2008 6:55 AM PDT
Looks can be deceiving,they probably told those dudes "oh,we are just gonna bump into ,ya then we will sue"Those guys didn''t have a clue that two Black widows crossed their paths.They deserve to die,I don''t care how old they are Murder is Murder.I wonder how many of these scams they actually got away with.
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by swwils April 17, 2008 7:01 AM PDT
Guess they got tired of shuffle board,and bingo.They should have got them playing nude twister so they would have had some excitement in their lives.Boredom will make the mind wonder,idle hands are the devils workshop.These ladies need to sit in" old sparky" for a few minutes,it won''t take long their hearts will probably shut down in a matter of seconds when 1500 volts at 8 amps hits them.
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by swwils April 17, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
Grandma you lied to the family! You said you met a man that was wealthy!Right,after you and Ma Barker cashed in his Death Insurance.I guess this means you''ll not be over at Thanksgiving dinner.What shall we tell the Grand kids?
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by stupidrules3 April 17, 2008 7:22 AM PDT
Stand them up in an alley and turn a steamroller loose on them.
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by sandsofchlai April 17, 2008 7:36 AM PDT
Quick!! Pass a law to outlaw little old women!
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by sandsofchlai April 17, 2008 7:37 AM PDT
And who said older women were a good time??
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by sandsofchlai April 17, 2008 7:42 AM PDT
When Hillary gets elected, these two can get married!!

LOL
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by bdrlnt4rl April 17, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
if they are this old and they killed for money at this age, can you imagine what they were like when they were younger??? how many more bodies are they going to uncover at the hands of granny?????
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by jjarden April 17, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
There is ONLY ONE punishment for this...A Public Beheading with a Rusty Axe on the town common.

But of course, they will get to live out there rest of their lives in comfort and be fed three hot meals per day, all at the taxpayers expense.

This country''s "Justice System" is a TOTAL JOKE!

When are we the people going to take it back and DEMAND PUNISHMENT for these Heinous Crimes?
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by brianbwb-2009 April 17, 2008 9:57 AM PDT
I''m thinking "movie of the week". I''d watch it, if it followed the true story.
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by questionnews April 17, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
I''''m thinking "movie of the week". I''''d watch it, if it followed the true story.

Posted by brianbwb at 09:57 AM : Apr 17, 2008

Thelma & Louise Part 2:
After faking thier deaths by appearing to drive off a cliff, they collect a large insurance claim & they retire in LA. Money starts to dry up & they start bumping off more men in more insurance scams.
They could even use the same actresses. They should be in thier 70''s by now.
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by extremophil April 17, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
Baaad Granny! Bad, bad granny! You go to jail now.
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by bdrlnt4rl April 17, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
When are we the people going to take it back and DEMAND PUNISHMENT for these Heinous Crimes?


Posted by jjarden


you have a point, but it start with the parents as well making sure their children are accountable for their actions. then if that failed, make them be accountable for the actions in jail, not the hilton.

human rights have gone too far.

''hey let go kill some homeless men for the money. i would have s e x with them a couple of times, we are going to kill em anyway. if we get caught, no biggie, i am a tired old woman and i would love to live in the hilton for a couple of years!''
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by bdrlnt4rl April 17, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
but i would still love to see the movie
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by republic1776 April 17, 2008 11:39 AM PDT
There Hollywood stars now.
The 2 Homeless men murdered will be forgoten.
Good ''ol liberal Hollyweird ending!

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by adc1232 April 17, 2008 11:55 AM PDT
It''s crazy that women this old would still be doing such dumb and idiotic things.this goes to show that age ain''t nothin but a number(late great aaliyah)
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by erasmus6 April 17, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
"They could even use the same actresses. They should be in thier 70''''s by now." Posted by Questionnews

Hmmm, I don''t think Susan Sarandon and Geena Davis would appreciate what you just said. Now Susan Sarandon could be getting close, it is hard to tell. She I think keeps getting plastic surgery because she has a younger husband. But Geena Davis isn''t even close.

I actually didn''t like that movie. I think it was because Brad Pitt was in it.
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by erasmus6 April 17, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
"More like Joan Crawfjord and Betty Davis ....." Posted by MagicMerlin8

Now there ya go! That is more like it!

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by erasmus6 April 17, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
Except Joan Crawford and Bette Davis couldn''t play in the "movie" because they are dead.
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by lambofgoth April 17, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
"She I think keeps getting plastic surgery because she has a younger husband." - erasmus6 Now THERE is some seriously weird logic.
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by prinzowhales April 17, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
I guess if I want any background on these two animals I''ll have to find a news website and look it up or did they just blink into existence when they murdered the homeless gents.
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by erasmus6 April 17, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
"Now THERE is some seriously weird logic." Posted by lambofgoth

What do you mean?

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by randynason April 17, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
MOM???
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by bellaq2 April 17, 2008 1:13 PM PDT
Hollywood - Hellywood
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by swwils April 17, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
Grandma Barker and Grandma Bonnie,they should be at bing not out killing people.I wonder how they were luring the dudes into this.Must have been like "hey,we will hit you and act like your hurt then you can sue our car insurance,we will split the dough"Suckers born everyday,but they probably never thought these old ladies would never double cross them.
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by smitty448 April 17, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
Hey swwils.

Would you please read the article. You might not make such a fool of yourself if you took the time toe read more than just the headline. You see, the article explains what happened and answers your idiodic statement.
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by l8c6 April 17, 2008 8:08 PM PDT
A lesson for all to examine their own lives. Extremes make for meaningful examples. These examples are proof, some lives are useless and pointless.
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by newsterl April 17, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
"carries a sentence of 25 years to life. "

Which for a 77 and 75 year old would be about 2-3 years before they die of old age
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by smurfcrusher June 17, 2008 1:13 AM PDT
***! These hotties could turn Medusa to rock!
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