Suicides Shut VA Psychiatric Ward

Officials Act After Fourth Suicide Of Year Hits Dallas VA Hospital

(CBS/AP)  A fourth suicide among mentally ill patients treated at the Dallas VA Medical Center this year has led the hospital to close its psychiatric ward, and investigators from the national Veterans Affairs office are expected to arrive next week to assess safety.

This comes on the heels of an exclusive CBS News investigation that revealed 1,758 VA patients killed themselves in 2005. That number rose from 1,403 VA patient suicides in 2001.

Joseph Dalpiaz, director of the VA North Texas Health Care System, ordered the shutdown after a 44-year-old man hanged himself April 4. The hospital stopped admitting patients to its 51-bed psychiatric unit the next day.

Dalpiaz "decided he wanted to ... give us some time to assess the environment of care and make sure things were as safe as possible in our patient unit," said Dr. Catherine Orsak, head of mental health for the VA's North Texas health system.

Three other suicides have also raised alarm. In January, two men who met in the hospital's psychiatric ward committed suicide days after being released.

On Feb. 5, a 55-year-old mental health patient also took his own life while staying in the same unit. The Associated Press reported the veteran who committed suicide on this day hanged himself on a frame attached to his wheelchair.

In a statement to CBS News, VA spokesperson Phil Budahn said the “VA remains committed to ensuring its patients receive top quality care.” Any veterans who need "inpatient mental health care will be referred to VA facilities in Waco and Temple [or] non VA facilities in the Dallas Fort Worth area.”

Last November, CBS News broke the story of the staggering number of veterans who commit suicide. The report was the result of a five-month investigation into veteran suicides.

The results were startling: according to data from 45 states, 6,256 men and women who had served in the armed forces took their own lives in 2005 - that's 120 suicides every week. Chief Investigative Correspondent Armen Keteyian and his investigative team found that veterans were more than twice as likely to commit suicide that year than non-veterans.

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Read the original investigation: Suicide Epidemic Among Veterans
Follow up: VA Struggles With Vets' Mental Health.
How we got the numbers behind the story.
VA Doctor on Veteran Suicides.
Congress Looks at Veteran Suicides.
Read our viewers' feedback after the investigation.

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The safety of the Dallas psychiatric ward is to be assessed by investigators visiting from the national VA offices, The Dallas Morning News reported in its Tuesday editions. Doctors sent patient records and other documents to Washington last week for review.

Orsak said the hospital has spent more than $250,000 the past six months to eliminate suicide risks. Door knobs were replaced, showers curtains and plumbing were retrofitted, and light fixtures were modified to remove rigid outcroppings veterans might use in hanging themselves.

While new patients are not being admitted to the hospital's psychiatric unit, 10 veterans are still being treated there. Orsak said the hospital has increased staffing and checks to ensure their safety.

Shirley Bemps, who said her husband committed suicide in the psychiatric ward in February, said she blames doctors for her husband's death.

"If he was a high-risk patient like they said, he should have been watched and monitored," Bemps said. "They haven't called me to offer condolences. They won't even respond to me. I just feel cheated."

Orsak said she did not know when the psychiatric unit would reopen to new patients. In the meantime, she said mentally ill veterans would be treated at VA hospitals in Waco and Temple and nearby private treatment centers.

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Additional reporting by Pia Malbran.

[wogerwabbit]

6,256 service members committed suicide in 2005!!! *** is going on here? What are we doing to those poor people? Get them out of that hellhole of Iraq!

[mcvet]

6,256 service members committed suicide in 2005!!! *** is going on here? What are we doing to those poor people? Get them out of that hellhole of Iraq!


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Posted by WogerWabbit at 12:08 PM : Apr 15, 2008
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Now you know we can''t do that!! We must save face for the Fuhrer regardless of how many American Lives are distroyed. Sieg Heil Bush!!

[newsjunky5]

"[an increase in funding] never happened, and the VA got a 3x caseload without an extra dime in funds. That has stood since the Clinton administration"
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Congress must pass funding for the VA to cover the added caseload. There are three branches of government, people forget that.

[trhallma]

My husband is an Iraq vetaran. He returned home from the war for his 2 week leave and he flipped out. He was sent to Fort Stewart, GA for "treatment." The treatment consisted of telling him he was faking it and they were going to send him back to Iraq. I had to get one of our state senators involved. All that did was prompt the military to release him from active duty. He was never treated by the military! I had to figure out how to help him along and found a psychologist to treat us for "marriage counseling" so our insurance would pay for it. Neither the military nor the government want to take the time or spend the money to help people that have been through unimaginable things like the war. There are not quick fixes when trying to help mental patients and the military/government can''t accept that!

[newsjunky5]

"There are not quick fixes when trying to help mental patients and the military/government can''''t accept that!"
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I agree there are no quick fixes to psyc problems, but disagree that the military/government thinks there are. Instead, they avoid the issue and make excuses such as calling PTSD victims weak or with pre-existing problems. These patients vividly illustrate the downside/failure/or cost of a policy, by those same leaders. They''d rather sweep that aspect under the rug. From what I''ve seen at the few VA hospitals I''ve been to (not as a patient) you''re better off getting help outside that system, if you can swing it.

[newsjunky5]

"libs on here that rely on the government to take care of them in life and just end up bitter and angry."
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Yeah, stupid of them to push for a war and cause the problems we''re talking about.

[acolton1]

Very Sad Story: If the government had money to put into programs to help these people it would help a lot but thanks to George W. Bush and his spending on this war and asking for another 108 billion dollars the United States has nothing left for domestic programs. Lets all thank George W Bush for driving this country and the world economy into the toilet. Next time you see somebody with a Bush / Cheney sticker on their car just flip them off and cuss them out, because they still think Bush and Cheney are doing a good job. ha ha ha ha ha. Complete Idiots !

[bobnjersey]

[libs problems started way before anyone knew who George Bush was. Nice try tho.]
[Posted by jamesm12341 at 01:29 PM : Apr 15, 2008]

when did they start ... and who did they start with?

[Renegade.Rivers]

This is one story that Mcvet can relate to...where is he going to go for his psych treatmants now?

Posted by jamesm12341

You are without a doubt heartless, it shows in the *** you spew. Being a veteran myself, and having dealt with PTSD for the past 35+ years, I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about.

[mswolfestock]

While this article is sad enough in and of itself, I, as a United States Army Veteran, am sickened and disgusted by how y''all turn on each other and make every story into an argument about liberals vs. conservatives.

Every time that y''all get off the subject, every time y''all start insulting each other, another important subject gets argued into insignificance. EVERY TIME THAT Y''ALL FIGHT AMONG YOURSELVES, THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE - THIS IS THE REASON THAT THESE POOR TORTURED AND NEGLECTED VETERANS GIVE UP IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU IDIOTS!!!

These people risked their lives and their sanity just so y''all could turn their plight into a pointless argument. But this is why these poor kids go crazy in the first place - they lived through unspeakable horrors and now that they are home and in need of help, nobody cares.

If y''all can''t offer any solutions, if y''all just want to argue, you are part of the problem. You''re making it easy for our enemies to destroy us.

[bobnjersey]

[but please dont you both fall into the trap of expecting the government to be answer to your problems....go out and do it on your own....if you fall into the trap you will just end up like most of the libs on here that rely on the government to take care of them in life and just end up bitter and angry.]
[Posted by jamesm12341 at 01:10 PM : Apr 15, 2008]

yea ... you wouldn''t want to do that. be sure to ''do it all yourself'' and know that nobody helped you ... nothing preceeded you ... there wasn''t any dependencies anywhere in sight ... and all that comes your way was simply a result of your hard work and is all your own.

[armydog2]

The problem here is that this administration that got us involved in this war did not look ahead to the difficulties these Soldiers would be facing upon their return home. When you send a man or woman into a WAR ZONE for two or three or four deploynents that are now 15 months long, you have to expect problems with PTSD and TBI. When this administration sent these Soldiers into a WAR ZONE they were to shoulder the responsibility for these injuries. Bush has basically turned his back on these Veterans. All of these deployments put enormous stress on marriages and families.No one is looking for a handout just give our Veterans the CARE and RESPECT they have EARNED!!!!! and their families for their sacrifices for they have certainly EARNED it too.

No free handouts here, to all who think that is what this is , you need to put up or shut up, cause you do not have a clue!

[bobnjersey]

[when they were kids and probably their parents....government (democrat or republican) had nothing to do with it]
[Posted by jamesm12341 at 02:13 PM : Apr 15, 2008]

probably? so ... this is a best guess?

[Renegade.Rivers]

I have said this all before in post on this site, but I guess it bears repeating. I am a Vietnam vet, and spent 18 years in the military. I was wounded in Vietnam by a mortar attack, and also suffered other debilitating injuries after Vietnam, in which my back was broke in three places, and my knee tore out of it''s socket. I have had numerous surgeries on my knee and back, as well as other surgeries due to the conditions caused by those injuries and my exposure to Agent Orange. I am presently being treated for prostrate cancer, and if things go well with that two more surgeries, one on my neck, and one to repair a hernia that is the result of surgery I had to take out 21" of my colon. I draw 100% from the VA, and have not been able to seek gainful employment for the last 25 years. Because of that I am completely dependent on the VA for all of my medical treatment, and the main hospital that I use, is one where 13 veterans died in the past two years because of inadequate medical care. (Google Marion IL VA for more info.) If any one here believes that we veterans get the care we were promised, or deserve, you are fooling yourself.

[bobnjersey]

[thats all people do on here is guess, so spare me]
[Posted by jamesm12341 at 02:32 PM : Apr 15, 2008]

spare us all ... as you type your ''guesses'' based on what is clearly your filtered (and delusional) perspective.

[michellem99-2009]

The VAMCs need to be overhauled..I am not a vet..Vets are in my family..Vets are not getting the care they need..I KNOW A VET WHO TOLD THE HOSPITAL TO LEAVE HIM BE..He was in hospital and it was awful as he kept in touch with me by phone and I be on computer..He was asking for a glass of water..Just a glass of water and hours later he got it..hours..How many vets are pushed in to bad care..I was visisting a VAMC and had to use the rest room for us ladies.. I had no idea the loo was unclean...I am legally blind..I had some med to put on the area of my buttom..I was pissed..I won''t use a public rest room..after that..That was in the 90s.

[stn_sage]

I have to say, this sounds very unusual?! Why are so many vets committing suicide at this hospital?! Just offhand, he''d be curious what sort of monitoring protocols they have in place---are they being followed? What''s happening here? It sounds like some type of hospital procedure-type breakdown to me!

[acolton1]

I think that George W Bush is mentally ill and needs to spend some time in one of these places. No other President has been so out of touch with the American Public or Reality then George W Bush.

[pondering1]

The most effective treatment for PTSD to date is the earliest possible professional intervention and counseling. When a person has been traumatised and is reaching out for help, only to find denial of the fact on the part of our goverment, these are the kinds of things that manifest themselves. These brave soldiers are not mentally ill, they are injured through no fault of their own. Please bear this in mind when posting as PTSD can happen to anyone in or out of a war zone.

[pfd572]

6,256 veterans committed suicide in 2005. These numbers and the suicides for 2006 and 2007 should be added to the death toll for the war. Tell me bush/cheney, how do you sleep at night, go fishing, greet the Pope with a smile on your faces, live without guilt and nightmares? I cannot believe you are actually able to function with the blood on your hands.

[pfd572]

jamesm: I just bet when you get to the age you are going to pass on collecting SS benefits, that liberal hand out. You are amazingly ignorant. If you work, I bet you get health benefits (if you don''t that explains a lot about the chip on your shoulder). Well, the VA is a military service health benefit, if you can call it that. I suppose these men and women are supposed to have private ins. at the cost of their minimum wage salaries. (yes, minimum wage. they are on duty 24/7, subject to duty at any time, for any lenght of time. Deployed troops are working 20 on and 4 off). We are spending billions of dollars to wage a war and cause the casualties, be nice if we at least tried to fix them.

[denn034]

This shuts down a psychiatric ward and the American Psychiatric Associations willingness to discuss normalizing pedophilia in May of 2003 doesn''t? What a commentary on today''s society.

[forthepeopl1]

if it aint MR. POTATOHEAD, LOOKS PRITTY SCARED DOENT HE. ITS FUNNY TO HAVE THIS INSIDER OF WALLSTREET HAVE SO MUCH POWER..


LISTEN IF THEY ( CONGRESS) WOULD DO THERE JOBS WE WOULDN''''''''T BE IN THIS MESS.

ANYONE THAT TOOK OUT LOANS FROM 2000 TO 2007
REGARDLESS OF WHAT THERE CREDIT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF THIS MESS MOST HAVE LOST THEIR GOOD RATING.


THEY NEED TO COME OUT AND TELL ALL MORTGAGE COMPANYS

TO RE-FI EVERYONE NOW. NO EXCEPTION IF THEY HAVE A
MORTGAGE THAN TAKE 60% OFF THE BALLANCE AND RE-FI THEM AT 1 PERCENT OVER PRIME AND STOP ALL THE BLEEDING FOR ONCE..THAT IS ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE, SIMPLE,FAST,AND IT WOULD STOP ALL FORCLOSEINGS,BURNINGS OF HOMES,AND STOP 10''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''S OF MILLIONS FROM BEING ON THE STREET..

THIS IS MORE INPORTANT, THAN THIS ***.

OR HOW ABOUT REPORTING THAT WE THE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THIS FROM CLINTON AND MCCAIN. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO THE 374,298 AMERICANS DEAD,HURT,MAIMED IN THIS WAR YOU SUPPOTED FROM THE START..HOW ABOUT ASKING THEM THIS


TIME TO MARCH DOWN AND TAKE THEM OUT..

[lowell43]

The suicides are a serious issue and my heart goes out to the veterans''s families.

The VA Hospitals in general are simply understaffed and underfunded. I have been going to the VA Hosp in Salem VA for my health care needs and they treat at least 24,000 veterans monthly at the local facility.

The personnel there overall are dedicated in helping the veterans of all ages.

Federal Bureaucy is the serious issue for all VA Facilities to put it mildly. The federal budget simply has to provide more monies to the VA Hospital system so that veterans can recieve adequate medical care.

It all starts at the White House.

[gce65]

A psych ward at a VA hospital in Texas. Those 3 components are bad enough.

But the story only stated the suicide rate up to 2005. Do they not know what it was for 2006? Or 2007? Or do they just not release anything negative and alarming?

My bet is that it''s gone up steadily since 2001. And it will continue to climb now that so many military and their families have been stretched to the breaking point by the Bush administration.

[swwils]

I don''t understand why closing the ward will help anyone.Seems to me this will hurt many patients that need help.If someone decides they are done and are going to commit suicide it is no bodies fault but that individual who chooses to go out that way.That Hospital is not at fault ,and I am sure their are many patients that need them to remain open.I have experienced 4 suicides in my grown up life,3 as a juvenile in my town.I have realized once they make up their mind they do it when it is easy for them to accomplish this.

[swwils]

I have been going to the VA for 10 years and they do me great.I have a good General Doctor,and a great psychiatrist.I have no problems at all.I go to modern war classes,and open therapy,plus a regiment of medication.I never feel like doing myself harm,usually others.I am too scared too harm myself.I have known many that decided to do themselves in,some accomplished their goals others found peace within themselves and abandoned their bad thoughts,life goes on.

[blackyowe]

Its so sad. I really feel for the families.

[plainjean]

If George W. Bush was my commander-and-chief I would commit suicide too!

[carolcape]

I have never heard of so many suicides anywhere, this is unreal. What in the heck is happening there. Wake up and smell the coffee, this has to be inside carelessness in the care of the Vets. Is there something going on in one particular unit, there should be a major investigation into this. Why would so many and so consecutively commit suicide?Is there someone there who is responsible for this, it sure sounds suspicious. Sending my thoughts to those who have to live with the pain of someone taking their own life. And to the weirdo that said, go ahead let them kill themselves if they want, what a sad human being. Hoping things will turn around at this hospital and all the people who fought for freedom, will get better and move on. And I hope that the people in Washington do something for these men. Just a thoughtful Canadian thinking about those Canadians and Americans who fight for their country.

[lazy1948]

Psychiatrist apparently are not helping the vets! Big pay check just to MONITOR that no one commits suicide. They need help readjusting to life here in the country of the FREE. The traumatization needs more than just MONITORING. They need to restructure the CARE.

[seabeesc]

This is a double posting.

Everyone, just step back and maybe look at things from the veteran''s point of view. To them life was no longer worth living. What could cause that? I am a First Gulf War veteran who also suffers from a illness the DOD and VA says does not exist. I have been diagnosed with polyneuropathy. Basically the nerves in my body are dying. I live with pain severe enough that the VA gives me morphine and oxycodone in a attempt to try and control this symptom. I have dizziness spells that cause me not to even be able to stand up on my own. They tell me I have severe short and long term memory loss. The list of symptoms go on and on.

Now the VA freely admits and tries to treat all of these symptoms that started shortly after my return from the First Gulf War and they used to say I had Gulf War Syndrome. But then the people I have to look to for medical care says my condition doesn%u2019t exist? I have lost my family and home because I was no longer able to work and support them. A lot of the people that were in my unit suffer the same symptom that I do. If I remember right, there has been at least 9 who have given up their lives mainly due to depression caused by a lack of help or understanding.

[seabeesc]

second part of the double posting.

Myself, I have not given up the fight against the VA which for many has become a sick joke. The VA has insulted and ignored the Veterans of the First Gulf War. Now they have a whole new Veteran population where many are again being ignored when asking for help as was seen on the evening news today.

Now you tell me why these people who have answered their nation''s call would want to commit suicide?

I am waiting for a answer.