April 13, 2008

Barack Obama's Flip Side Revealed

Politico: Candidate Has Had Moments Of Aloofness Or Tone Deaf Reactions

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    Hillary Clinton is on the offense in Pennsylvania, after Barack Obama's controversial comments about small town voters drew criticism. Dean Reynolds reports.

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    Barack Obama touched off a political firestorm when he called blue-collar voters "bitter." Opponents in both parties were quick to attack his remarks as "elitist." Randall Pinkston reports.

  • Barack Obama carries a political persona that draws on many origins. He is the son of a single mother who grew up middle class in Hawaii and worked as a community organizer in the poorest neighborhoods of Chicago. But he is also the Harvard Law Review president who knows well - occasionally too well - that he is smart and successful. Photo

    Barack Obama carries a political persona that draws on many origins. He is the son of a single mother who grew up middle class in Hawaii and worked as a community organizer in the poorest neighborhoods of Chicago. But he is also the Harvard Law Review president who knows well - occasionally too well - that he is smart and successful.  (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

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(The Politico)  This story was written by Carrie Budoff Brown.


Barack Obama’s remarks on small town America were an off-key note from a politician who has rocketed to the top by being brilliantly on-key.

At the same time, the comments were not a total departure: On the campaign trail, Obama can reveal moments of aloofness or tone deaf reactions that belie his image as the epitome of polished.

At 46, Obama carries a political persona that draws on many origins. He is the son of a single mother who grew up middle class in Hawaii and worked as a community organizer in the poorest neighborhoods of Chicago. But he is also the Harvard Law Review president who knows well - occasionally too well - that he is smart and successful.

Part of the appeal to many Democrats is an intellect that allows him to discuss difficult issues with sophistication and candor, as he did in Philadelphia with his speech on race. But his remarks at a private San Francisco fundraiser amplified the flip side of his personal manner, a sort of freestyle rhetorical approach sometimes better suited for a dorm room bull session.

Obama fielded almost identical questions from the donors in San Francisco as he does from voters across the country. Yet his answers in the more intimate - and in his view, off the record - gathering were a bit more revealing.

Asked what he would seek in a running mate, Obama said despite the conventional wisdom, he wouldn’t need somebody with military expertise because "foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain."

And then there was the question from donors who asked what they could expect in Pennsylvania when they traveled there to campaign for him. They had to work to do, Obama responded, because voters in a lot of the communities feel beaten down by job losses and betrayed by their government.

“It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Obama said.

The remarks, recorded at the Sunday fundraiser by a Huffington Post blogger and published Friday, opened a fresh round of scrutiny about Obama’s ability to connect with blue-collar workers.

"What I found to be most revealing was that these remarks were made several thousand miles from us, at a very expensive fundraising campaign event in a very upscale location where he did not think any of us were going to hear what he would say," said Harrisburg Mayor Stephen R. Reed, a Clinton supporter. "It invites the question of what else does this candidate think about all the different people who make up our redder, diverse nation."

David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist, pointed to the senator’s expressions of regret for the way he phrased his remarks.

"Did he choose his words poorly? Yes," Axelrod said. "Does it reflect something larger? Absolutely not. Those who are trying to portray it that way are disingenuous."

Indeed, he has won liberal states and conservative states, wealthy states and poor states. And he has been masterful at attracting millions of new voters and donors to the Democratic Party, and building fierce loyalty within his campaign operation and among his legions of supporters with a message of bridging racial, religious and cultural divides.

But for all of the pitch-perfect performances over the past 15 months, Obama can come across as detached at moments when he should identify, as scolding when he should allow incidents to roll off his back, as misunderstood when he says one thing but means another.

At a New Hampshire roundtable in December, Obama betrayed little emotion as one participant sobbd while describing her situation: She lost her job on her 65th birthday, struggles to afford her $2,900 monthly prescription drug costs, and lives in 30-year-old trailer where the thermostat is set at 64 degrees.

At the same event, he later mentioned how the success of his book had allowed him to buy a big house. He was making a point about inequities in the tax system, but the story felt misplaced in the midst of such dire tales.

Just before the Iowa caucus, Obama began telling voters about a phone conversation with his wife, who said this year was the right time to run for president because they are “still almost normal.” She meant that before her husband became a U.S. senator and received a $1.9 million book advance, they juggled school loans, grocery shopping and mortgage payments like other middle-class families.

“Michelle’s point was, in eight years from now, 10 years from now, we may still be nice people, but we may be in this orbit where we just don’t remember, we don’t hear people’s voices anymore,” Obama explained at the time.

Two women in the Sioux City audience were not impressed.

“That was a mistake,” said Lindsay Pelchat, 30. “That was a big mistake.”

“Don’t ever forget where you come from,” her friend, Paula Yasat, 53, piped in.

“Does that mean in the next election he’s already going to start losing sight of the middle class?” Pelchat asked.

The women approached Obama afterward to tell him they remained undecided.

“What do I need to do?” Obama asked, almost disbelieving. “You’re really making us work.”

At a February town hall meeting in Racine, Wis., Obama showed little patience for a rowdy crowd. When one young man asked for his views on Native American rights and “people getting screwed” by NAFTA, Obama took a sharp tone.

“I’m sorry, young man, you have a series of different questions and why don’t you ask your questions in a more polite fashion,” Obama said.

An aide later said that Obama, who was on his last stop before a trip home to Chicago, appeared irritated because was anxious to see his family.

Reacting in mid-February to Clinton’s charges that he was all talk, Obama offered a confident self-assessment, one that might sound arrogant to some. “It’s true I give a good speech. What can I do? Nothing wrong with that.”

Obama infuriated supporters of former Sen. John Edwards by continuing to use him as a punch line on the stump even after he left the race. And New York magazine reported last month that Obama blew the endorsement, in part, because he came across as “glib and aloof” during a phone conversation on the day that Edwards dropped out.

Cass R. Sunstein, a former colleague of Obama’s at the University of Chicago law school, said the characterizations by Obama opponents of him as elitist is “laughable,” and the charge of him as condescending “aren’t features of his personality.”

But he allowed that Obama, like anybody under a nearly 24-hour-a-day microscope, can slip up.

“He is a real person,” Sunstein said. “He is not programmed in the way that some political candidates have been in the past. The moment-by-moment scrutiny is surely less familiar for him than it has been for people who have been facing this kind of scrutiny for a longer time.”

By Carrie Budoff Brown
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by truth-hurts April 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
**NEW POLL SHOWS OBAMA TANKING IN PENNSYLVANIA!!-LA Times
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by cees14 April 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
truth hurts...

that is one poll. go to realclearpolitics and you would see and be able to compare what the REST of the polls are saying. nice try though.
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by jone775 April 14, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
"Gallup Daily: Obama Numbers Holding Strong" - Gallup

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by jone775 April 14, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
"...The poll by Newsmax/Zogby indicates Obama and rival Hillary Clinton are neck-and-neck in the Keystone State..." - Zogby
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by jone775 April 14, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
"In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama leads Clinton 48% to 44%. While statistical noise has created daily fluctuations, this race has remained quite stable for the past month or so. A look at the overall trends shows Obama enjoying a modest but consistent advantage." - Rasmussen
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by sgtrds April 14, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
"Did he choose his words poorly? Yes," Axelrod said. "Does it reflect something larger? Absolutely not. Those who are trying to portray it that way are disingenuous."

Absolutely 100% correct! The very idea that Barack was trying to belittle rural folks is a gross distortion of what he said and any Democrat should be ashamed for twisting his words like a right wing talk show host would.
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by jone775 April 14, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
SgtRDS: Roger that!
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by elizabethbj April 14, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
It is very obvious that the writter of this story is biased toward Clinton. The media is so terrible. I am becoming very cynical as it seems that some reporters are just agents of people whose views they support. Its is so obvious and so sad......People forgot about Bosnia i guess and the lies she told. Oh will pretent that didn''t happen
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by sgtrds April 14, 2008 4:17 PM PDT
ElizabethBJ

Many of the stories here seem to be leaning more and more toward Hillary. It''s like CBS has decided to endorse her.
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by mysycophant April 14, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
Twice in one day, CBS "News" writes the most pathetically biased article with a headline to match. You guys are really an embarrassment to yourselves and the concept of Reporting. What are the Clintans promising you?
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by blackspirit3 April 14, 2008 4:22 PM PDT
In 1969 Eileen Wellstone, 19-year woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus
In 1972, a 22-year old told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton.
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.
From 1978-1980, during Clinton''''''''s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.
Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have *** with him shortly after she won her state crown
Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral ***.
Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation''''s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress.
Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting

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by sgtrds April 14, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
One would expect a right wing talk show host like Rush Limbaugh to intentionally distort Obama''s words and meaning and then attack him with the lies, but for Hillary to do it shows that she''s getting desperate. Her goal is like that of a spoiled child. "If I don''t get to win then I''m just going to kick the game table over!"
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by gaiaschild-2009 April 14, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
This was just dumb. But it''s not a deal breaker. IF Obama loses every state primary outstanding and all the superdelegates, that''s a deal breaker.
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by igorpdx April 14, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
Barack Obama is not an elitist- never has been- never will be. He is a human being that wants to make a difference in our lives.

From the Willamette Weekly- Portland Oregon

"As a second-year student at Harvard Law School in 1990, Lisa Hay made a bold decision and ran for one of the highest offices the school had to offer: president of the Harvard Law Review.

Taking leadership of the prestigious journal is like a gold star on a young lawyer%u2019s risumi. But 18 years ago, Hay had one competitor whose skill at winning over voters was evident even then. Barack Obama.

Hay, who went on to be elected treasurer of the law review, wasn%u2019t sore about her loss. She%u2019d known Obama since the start of their freshman year in 1988. Even then, she says, the future Illinois senator and Democratic presidential hopeful was a natural leader.

%u201CYou could tell he knew what he stood for,%u201D Hay recalls. %u201COther law students would be posturing, arguing a certain way. He was persuasive because you could tell he really believed what he was saying.%u201D

Hay%u2014now 45, one year younger than Obama%u2014is a federal public defender in Portland.

%u201CI would encourage everyone to vote for him,%u201D Hay says. %u201CI think he would be a great president.%u201D

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by smashwl7 April 14, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
7th: Lying about Bosnia and Sniper Fire.

8th Not taking Obama serious as a contender for President, poor campaign strategy

9th Poor management of campaign funds spending over 100 million in Iowa and loosing.

10th Not paying her bills to vendors and other organizations

11th The Mark Penn and Bill Clinton South American Trade Deal.

12th Clinton%u2019s divisive political style that will; motivate a lethargic McCain Campaign that is dull.


The GOP will use all of this if she wins the nomination, she is very, very unelectable the way I see it. She has poor judgment and has run a poor campaign that is the bottom line issue for Superdelegates to examine. Again the Superdelegates need to be tough and have the courage to make it clear to she cannot be elected. Hillary is in danger of maybe loosing her senate seat if this continues. Therefore, Superdelegates please save her from herself before we loose a badly needed senate seat for; The Obama Presidency
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by smashwl7 April 14, 2008 4:39 PM PDT
The Superdelegates need to consider Clinton%u2019s elect-ability as a Democratic Nominee %u2018SHE CANNOT BE ELECTED%u2019!

The GOP and McCain are trying so hard to help Clinton win the Democratic Nomination on every news station. It very clear to me as an average viewer they want to run against her in the worse way. The Superdelegates should have the courage to put this to an end. The talking points for the GOP are so easy if Clinton is the Nominee. Not only the eight years of the Clinton Presidency from White Water to Monica and now they can and will bring up the following:

Hillary%u2019s judgment should one again be called into question!

1st: NAFTA Flip Flop Hillary and Bill

2nd: The war in Iraq vote!

3rd: Agreeing to sign up for the rules that were stated by the DNC in respect to Florida and Mich.

4th: Destroying the Democratic Party for her win at all cost policy.

5th: Slashing and Bashing Obama and then wanting him to be her running mate.

6th: Financial handling of campaign funds spent over 100 million during Iowa campaign
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by igorpdx April 14, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
Why is Hillary given a pass on her unrecalcitrant and abrasive support of her lobbyists? Listen here.

Notice no applause line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24pDGQF6UW8
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by laughing123 April 14, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
Comically, the only poll that shows Obama wavering at all is the LA times poll, which (this election cycle)has had massivly incorrect polls thus far. Shamefully innaccurate, and the fact that other polls taken by more trustworthy organizations aren''t showing any real change says alot. Add in the fact that the poll was taken with a shamefully small sample size (600 people? And not even a new random sampling, but an old list? Shameful.) and you get the feeling that they might be cashing in on those people who want Obama to fail so desperately. We''ll see next Tuesday, but I''m betting he doesnt lose by more than 5 percent.
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by stmtraveler April 14, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
The day of September 11, 30 minutes after viewing the destruction of the tower on the morning TV news, I was in a nearby church, not even my own church, sitting in an isolated area, my head bent down, I was crying in silence for all those who died in that terrorist act. I visited the same church three times that day, the same position and reflecting on what has just happened.

In my opinion Obama is not an elitist. What he said about religion, gun and migrants sounds just about what people think in my part of this United States.

Those who are upset with Obama just want an excuse to tarnish the image of this great American.

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by seah5 April 14, 2008 4:58 PM PDT


Obama is the new Era Hitler. He even has his youth.

I wonder if they say Hail Obama or just Bow or faint.

Nothing worse than seeing someone use mind control and brainwashing on people. Or did he really put something in the Kool-Aide?

His campaign and style has been copied off of Hitler.

If you ever wonder how Hitler took over Germany and how he got so many to follow him. Just look around.

Obama came from nowhere with nothing, He has nothing concrete behind him.

His background has some pretty undesirable friends. A criminal and donor of some dirty money, A mad Bomber with Muslim ties, A radical American, Government, white man hater.





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by sgtrds April 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
Posted by seah5 at 04:58 PM : Apr 14, 2008

What a complete stinking steaming pile of horsesh*it that whole post is.
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by spotchester April 14, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
seah5 is a little person who apparently worships Hitler, as he includes the name in every post he/she makes.
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by spotchester April 14, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
I think it''s fantastic that Obama''s opponents are using completely irrelevant trivialities to try and derail him. Meanwhile we''ll just hammer on the Iraq Occupation, the putrid economy, the theft of our civil rights, the loss of America''s reputation, etc etc.

Let''s see Rev Wright vs. 4,000+ dead American kids...
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by spotchester April 14, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
By the way, this is a terrible article. Flip side? Where? Explain. The author doesn''t. I don''t think the author knows what the hell she''s talking about.
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by drdave212 April 14, 2008 5:38 PM PDT
Obama BUSTED!

This is more about the arrogance of the Obama campaign than anything else. In the age of American Idol and the internet, a new generation is being conditioned to respond virally to You Tube videos, fancy talk, carefully selected suits and graphic fonts. But eventually Obama''s mask had to come off and underneath is none other than a slick, fancy talking, small minded, small time Chicago politician with lots of hidden personal and political agendas.
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by seah5 April 14, 2008 5:47 PM PDT
Well Obama is the one just like His twin

So Time to Worried sonny!

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by szelag19 April 14, 2008 5:53 PM PDT
Hillary called Osama an elitist..I have many more names for him that are not that kind..Phony,to start with,racist,anti American,immature,egotistical,anti semitic..and these are only the tip of the iceburg..He cannot and will not beat McCain in the election..and the DNC-regardless of whether they like Hillary personally or not-if they want to see a Democrat in the Whitehouse they better kick this guy to the curb..The GOP will rip him to shreds.And if the truth be known McCain would make a better President than Osama.But NOT better than Hillary..and I know for a fact that Hillary''s supporter would cross party lines and vote for McCain rather than have this bag of *** for a president.Can you imagine Michelle as first lady..LMFAO
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by harrist5 April 14, 2008 7:30 PM PDT

Speaking of the "bitterness" debate:

Listen to what Bill Clinton said while he was running for president in 1991:
"The reason (George H. W. Bush''s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death." -- Bill Clinton quote in the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

Then about two months later months later, Bill Clinton spoke as follows -- "You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I''m from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they''re gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they''ve been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country''s coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, ''What happened to everybody''s job? What happened to everybody''s income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?''" (Joe Klein reporting in the Sunday Times)

So does Hillary believe her husband is an elitist for beliving anyone could ''scare the daylights'' out of "insecure" poor folk?
Isn''t she now trying to do just that?
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by Jerrycnet April 14, 2008 8:08 PM PDT
Obama said those people are antipathy. Seems to me he''s the one who is really antipathy and completely lack of compassion. People are duped by some wealthy liberals in the america who love to destroy Clinton whatever way they could by propping up Obama. You don''t have to agree with people with faith and believe in 2nd amendment of constitution, but to show such contempt says loudly about the true color of this Obama character as well as his unqualification as a statesman.
...%u201CHe is a real person,%u201D Sunstein said. %u201CHe is not programmed in the way that some political candidates have been in the past. .... What a bunch of ***, anybody else are robots whose tiniest mistakes should be condemned?
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by likeitis5050 April 14, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
It was bound to happen eventually. Obama has gotten a free pass on the fact he can make a few dim wits faint when he opens his mouth...and Obama believed it was just that easy. He doesn''t have the stamina nor the gumption to really run this country. He''s relied on a hateful spiritual mentor to guide him, whether he will honestly admit it or not, and that''s not enough to lead all of us....sorry....that may come as big shock to him, but he needs a serious reality check at this point. Maybe he''s the one who should ''bow out gracefully'' for the good of the party.
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by dnsallday April 14, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
okay, you guys are on to us. I guess we should admit it. Those of us who aren''t supporting Hillary Clinton have all been brainwashed. There are millions upon millions of us who are really quite ignorant and don''t know how to do any research of the candidates ourselves. Only we morons would consider supporting somebody other than Hillary. If we were smart and had any common sense of course we would be supporting Senator Clinton. Who couldn''t see that?
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by ddonar April 14, 2008 9:43 PM PDT
Barack has a bad habit of taking a mental nap when he has a lead. I know his intentions were to paint a realistic picture of the plight of midwestern industry, but take a cue from John McCain who lost the Michigan primary...the truth can hurt and so can losing a political campaign.
http://politicalgrafitti.blogspot.com/2008/04/bitter-midwesterners.html
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by tracy1morgan April 14, 2008 9:55 PM PDT
Barack is doomed with Reagan Democrats. That means he might be able to win the Dem primary, but he cant win a direct election.
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by msswin April 14, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
We can vote on whether we are bitter or not here:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/its-americas-tu.html
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by Lai K W April 14, 2008 10:11 PM PDT
The main point is people do not go to church because they are bitter or because of Washington.

We go to church for salvation, for our eternal life. OBAMA, a phony Christian who let his greed OVER faith. God is not black. That is blasphemy.

Pennsylvanians got to be angry. The world won''t forgive you if you vote for OBAMA.

People are bitter everywhere but they don''t go to church to show their bitterness unless you go to Rev. Wrights cult church. We go to church to worship our Lord. There are people in OBAMA''s home base, Illinois who are bitter. Should we hold OBAMA responsible or Washington responsible! OBAMA, of course.

CNN''s reporter is trying to help OBAMA SIDESTEPPING his hypocrisy to tell us there are indeed bitterness in Pennsylvania . Shame on CNN!

Going to San Francisco and giving statements to raise fund at the cost of Pennsylvanian, OBAMA wants to impress the billionaires, MAN!

It is disgusting to hear OBAMA''s condescending tone.

This is a man who makes claim to change Washington. He can''t change Chicago. He can''t change REZKO. He is very much a part of them. Let Chicago chicken goes home to roost.

OBAMA ACTS as if he is not responsible for ''the bitterness''. HOW Wrong! He has 20 years of public service, he told us. It is politicians like him MAKING his fortune in this country,ignoring the bitterness, USING BITTERNESS for MONEY that should be responsible. He is very much a part of the ELITE group causing bitterness.

Hillary or McCain; never OBAMA
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by blackyowe April 14, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
He don''t look too smart to me from down here on the farm.
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by glock4me April 14, 2008 10:27 PM PDT
I guess the Obama media honeymoon is over. Why were the media in love with him in the first place? The democratic primary will trully be a mess if Obama falls further out of favor.

Fun to watch!! I can''t wait to see tomorrow''s developments in this soap opera. As the Donkey Turns.
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by elascu-2009 April 14, 2008 10:47 PM PDT
Hillary is no angel!

Billary
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6470450895164255089

Obama''s Response
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/11/204530/918/268/494012
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/today-barack-ob.html

Hillary Campaign Finance Part I of 12
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

Hillary''s Religion
http://www.streetprophets.com/storyonly/2007/8/20/185554/657
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/12/hillary_clinton_4.html

Hillary''s lies
http://www.jzeifman.com/

What Kind Of President?
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/carl-bernstein-what-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-look-like/

Wal-Mart *** Discrimination Suit
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/sebok/20040809.html
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by verycold April 14, 2008 10:51 PM PDT
Barack was telling those that planned to go stump for him that they had quite a hill to climb. Assuming many of those very rich liberals have never visited rural PA, he was painting a picture of them in advance. The picture I got was that the rural folks in PA love their guns, go to church, but are not fond of anybody that doesn''t think or look like them. So without saying so directly, the voters in PA are racially challenged which might present a problem for an intelligent, black man running for President. Well, judging from the Wright video I would say he might be able to recognize bitter, racially challenged and clinging to religion.
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by cjc2008-2009 April 15, 2008 12:46 AM PDT
WOW! I feel like I am in the twilight zone! A main stream media article about Obama that is not trying to sell him to us. Could it be the media is finally doing it''s job. This article actually provided
1)accurate quotes
2)context
3)related info
Thank you CBS for giving people the info so they I can decide for themselves how relevant this news is.
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by cjc2008-2009 April 15, 2008 12:48 AM PDT
As my husband says, a snake-oil salesman IS the best description of Obama, "He''s selling HOPE in a bottle, but you are left with nothing but CHANGE in your pocket".
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by grammawhamma April 15, 2008 5:10 AM PDT
Many of the stories here seem to be leaning more and more toward Hillary. It''''s like CBS has decided to endorse her.
Posted by SgtRDS at 04:17 PM : Apr 14, 2008

Imagine that...the tables have finially turned. Sounds to me like the Golden Child, the one the media loved so much, has made one too many blunders lately and they don''t want to back a losing horse.
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by grammawhamma April 15, 2008 5:45 AM PDT
Maybe the media decided its time for a "change".
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by jockh April 15, 2008 5:56 AM PDT
I have this vision of Hillary tumbling down a cliff and grabbing the little tree stumps on her way down, hoping that one of them will stop the fall, and keep her from crashing%u2026.can you smell the desperation wafting from Camp Clinton?

They know they have to beat Obama by over 20 points to give themselves even the most remote chance of catching him in the rest of the few remaining primary states. So they mount another desperate ploy from their hanging by a fingernail campaign, but ultimately this is much ado about nothing. ? It may cost Obama a few votes in Pennsylvania and it looks likely that Clinton will have her last hurrah by winning that state, but unless the superdelegates have a death wish for their party, he will still win the nomination; and finally Hillary will go home and take her terrible pant suits with her.
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by jack3213 April 15, 2008 7:49 AM PDT
OBAMA MIGHT KEEP BAD COMPANY BUT MY FRIENDS, SO DOES CLINTON. THE BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT CREDIBLE NOR TRUSTWORTHY. YOU THINK A REPUBLICAN IS A BAD WORD, THE TWO OF THESE LYING DEMOCRATS ARE EVEN WORSE.
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by jack3213 April 15, 2008 8:24 AM PDT
THE POWER THAT COMES FROM FEELING MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOME ACTUALLY DESERVE TO BE- THE INSECURE EGO AND AUDACITY OF THE SELF FROM THE NEED TO CONTROL OTHERS- THE FACT THAT IF THEY ARE WELL LIKED BUT NOT QUALIFIED THEY ARE OFTEN MORE POPULAR. IF THEY ARE QUALIFIED AND MOST EXPERIANCED OFTEN TIMES THEY ARE NOT POPULAR. THE GENERATIONS THAT HAVE EVOLVED OVER THE DECADES HAVE CHANGED AND IT SEEMS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF MORE, WHICH IS NOT ADVISABLE. THE POPULATION NEEDS TO DECREASE AND EVOLVE FOR ANY CHANGE TO OCCUR REALISITCALLY. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN. THEM MORE PEOPLE ARE FILLING UP THE PLANET THE LESS LIKELY THE CHANGE MOST SEEK WIIL EVER COME TO FRUTIATION. AND THE MORE THEY LOOK FOR POPULARITY IN A CANDIDATE AND LESS IN EXPERIANCE, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT RELATE TO HAVING A CLEAR OBJECTIVE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO CHANGE SOMETHING. THE LESS LIKELY PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A UNIVERSAL PROBLEM NOT A SUBJECTIVE ONE.
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by dante805 April 15, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
Obama''s Lies Part I:
Small Town Americans are bitter and cling to Guns or Religion. They are anti-immigrant, anti-free trade. Given at San Francisco fund raiser

%u201CTypical White People%u201D quote

More Blacks are in Prison today than in college

Abortions are better than being %u201CPunished" with a baby

Went with Farrakhan to the Half-million man march

Mis-statements on the number of casualties in IRAQ

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by dante805 April 15, 2008 8:26 AM PDT
Obama''s Lies Part II:
Never attended a White Church (even though he and Michelle preach diversity)

His Wife is finally proud of America (1st statement) then she is really proud (2nd statement)

His flat declaration that lobbyists %u201Cwon''t work in my White House%u201D changed after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions.

His wife wrote an essay on black separatists in Princeton

Told a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: ''I meant the whole civil rights movement.''

His Hate pastor gave Farrakahn an award and supports Hamas

Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kansas, saying 10,000 people died %u2013 he was only off by 9,988. He was trying to tie the deaths to the lack of National Guard heavy equipment because of Iraq %u2013 also incorrect.
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by briannorwood April 15, 2008 8:26 AM PDT
As far as I know, I have no reason to believe Hillary Clinton is a monster; there''s no basis for that, I take her on the basis of what she says. And, you know, there isn''t any reason to doubt that.
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by dante805 April 15, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
Part III (yes there''s more):

Obama caught with handwriting on Liberal Survey supporting unfettered Abortion and strict gun control

Obama still hasn%u2019t explained REZCO ties fully - Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 -- more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos

Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama''s [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He was not. He was a senior lecturer at the school.
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