Obama Shoots Back At Clinton Criticism

Rhetoric Grows Increasingly Heated As Democratic Presidential Candidates Trade Barbs

(CBS/AP)  Democrat Barack Obama lashed out Sunday at rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, mocking her vocal support for gun rights and saying her record in the Senate and as first lady belied her stated commitment to working class voters and their concerns.

"She knows better. Shame on her. Shame on her," Obama told an audience at a union hall here.

The Illinois senator has spent three days on the defensive after comments he made at a San Francisco fundraiser were disclosed that suggested working class people are bitter about their economic circumstances and "cling to guns and religion" as a result.

Obama reiterated his regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been "a little disappointed" to be criticized by Clinton.

Then, laughing along with the union audience, Obama noted that Clinton seemed much more interested in guns since he made his comments than she had in the past.

"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said, invoking the famed female sharpshooter immortalized in the musical "Annie Get Your Gun."

He continued: "Hillary Clinton is out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter. Come on, she knows better. That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."

Clinton has told campaign audiences that she supports the rights of hunters. Saturday, she reminisced about learning to shoot on family vacations in Scranton, where her father grew up. She's also said she once shot a duck in Arkansas, where she served as first lady.

Clinton, who is trailing Obama in the popular vote and pledged delegates, has pounded Obama since Friday, when audio from his San Francisco appearance was posted on The Huffington Post Web site. She hoped the comments might give her a new opening to court working-class Democrats less than 10 days before the Pennsylvania primary on April 22, which she needs win to keep her campaign going.

At the San Francisco fundraiser, Obama tried to explain his troubles in winning over some working-class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions: "It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Campaigning in Scranton on Sunday, Clinton denounced those remarks yet again as "elitist and divisive" and suggested they would alienate voters in Pennsylvania and other states holding primaries in the coming weeks.

"Senator Obama has not owned up to what he said and taken accountability for it," she told reporters during an informal news conference outside a home. "What people are looking for is an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, other places in our country? And I think that's what people are looking for, some explanation, and he has simply not provided one."

Indiana and North Carolina vote on May 6.

"You don't have to think back too far to remember that good men running for president were viewed as being elitist and out of touch with the values and the lives of millions of Americans," Clinton added, referring to John Kerry, the defeated 2004 Democratic nominee.

"I think it's very critical that the Democrats really focus in on this and make it clear that we are not (elitist). We are going to stand up and fight for all Americans," Clinton said.

Fighting back, Obama said Clinton's history proved she was not as sensitive to the concerns of blue collar voters as she tried to project.

"I just have to remind people of the track record," Obama said, noting Clinton accepted campaign contributions from PACs and drug and insurance industry lobbyists, which he does not.

"This is the same person who took money from financial folks on Wall Street and then voted for bankruptcy bill that makes it harder for folks right here in Pennsylvania to get a fair shake. Who do you think is out of touch?" Obama said.

"This is the same person who spent a decade with her husband campaigning for NAFTA, and now goes around saying she's opposed to NAFTA," Obama said, referring to the North American Free Trade Agreement that is widely unpopular in blue collar communities.

The Clinton campaign issued a quick retort to Obama's comments.

"For months, Barack Obama and his campaign have relentlessly attacked Hillary Clinton's character and integrity by using Republican talking points from the 1990s," said spokesman Phil Singer. "The shame is his. Senator Clinton does know better — she knows better than to condescend and talk down to voters like Senator Obama did."

Obama planned to further address the question of which candidate was most in touch with middle-class voters in a speech Monday to The Associated Press annual meeting in Washington.

[myshiba]

Posted by Omaar-101 at 09:04 PM : Apr 14, 2008
You need to read this:

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19484882&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

[myshiba]

Here''s an awesome article on the bitterness issue:

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19484882&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

[myshiba]

Obama shoots blanks

[omaar-101]

1. BUSH DOESNT KNOW HOW TO COMBAT TERRORISM, IN ALL THE 7 NOW GOING ON 8 YEARS, THAT HES SPENT IN THE OVAL OFFICE !!

QUESTION: WHAT TERRORIST EXPERIENCE DD GEORGE BUSH HAVE PRIOR TO THE THE (911 ATTACKS)

ANSWER: NONE AT ALL AND IN 7 GOING ON 8 YEARS IT SHOWS...GRAVELY SHOWS BUSHS INEXPERIENCE...GRAVELY SHOWS IT !!

A 12 BILLION DOLLAR A MONTH IRAQ OCCUPATION 5 YEARS !!

4009 GREAT U.S. MILITARY MEN & WOMEN KILLED UNDER FALSE PRETENSES (WOMD) IN IRAQ.

HUNDREDS OF OUR U.S. SOLDIERS DIS-MEMBERED OR THEIR LEGS & ARMS AND AMPUTATED !!

HUNDREDS WITH PERMANENT PSYCOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.

BUSH NOT INVADING SAUDI ARABIA & THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, THE TRUE (911 ATTACKERS) AND THESE LOW LIFES CAN COME AND GO IN THIS COUNTRY AS THEY PLEASE...


MY 13 YEAR OLD TWIN BOYS COULD DO ...BETTER IN A INTERNATIONAL CRISIS !!

2. A 60 YR OLD, HILLARY CLINTON DOES NOT HAVE ANY INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCES, OTHERTHAN BILL CLINTONS HOLIDAY GETAWAYS, SHES BEEN ON BOSNIA, N.IRELAND OR THE (NAFTA & AFGHANISTAN FIASCOS) !!

3. A 72 YR OLD JOHN MCCAIN, A CAREER POLITICIAN, WITH NO INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCES, OTHERTHAN HIS FAILED FRONT, TO APPEAR AS THOUGH HE HAD INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE, LIKE NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ALQUEDA, SHIITE, SUNNIS AND IRAN EXTREMIST, UNTIL JOE LIEBERMAN CORRECTED HIS SEMI-SENILE A!! THE DIFFERENCES !!

4. OBAMA HAS FOREIGN AT LEAST HAS A U.S. RELATIONS BACKGROUND AN IS ON THE U.S. FOREIGN RELATION COMMITTEE, HE DOES HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE IN WASHINGTON

[ictrep]

I wouldn''t vote for Hillary if she were the ONLY, and I mean ONLY candidate!!! She scares the hell out of me. Obama is a real close second -- and McCain doesn''t do my heart a whole lot of good either! I''m not sure who I''m going to vote for come November! LOL

[libra127]

Hillary turned $1000 into a magical $100,000 through illegal insider trading.

Posted by jockh at 10:15 AM : Apr 14, 2008

Sorry to disillusion you, jockh, but no evidence of "insider trading" was ever found.

[libra127]

OMAAR-101 - People are NOT more likely to read your posts because you post them multiple times. In fact, I tend to skip over any post I see has been posted multiple times, because it tells me the poster is not relying on rational argument but on bashing to make their point.

[libra127]

Obama has a much better plan for health care than Clinton. Under Clinton, everyone would be foreced to buy insurance, under Obama''s they would not. It would be optional.

Posted by kansas1946 at 06:09 PM : Apr 14, 2008

Do you feel like you''re living under a "dictator" because you are forced to buy car insurance ? Hillary''s health care plan is not unlike required car insurance. You can buy whatever plan you want and the government does not run it. If the cost is more than some fraction (like 5-10%) of your income, the government will help you pay for it. If you like your current plan, you can keep it. The government will work to keep costs down by negotiating with the insurance companies. Because the pool of insured people is much larger, costs for everyone can be lowered. It''s a better plan than Obama''s which won''t effect cost savings.

[omaar-101]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Willi


Hillary & Bill Clinton have More Arab Money, More Terrorist Ties & Arab Business Partnerships than Obama could ever aspire to have or get !!

Talk about their ...PATRIOTISM & FAITH !!

MILLIONS ARE THEIR RELIGION, POLITICS IS A CONVENIENT LABEL TO WEAR DURING ELECTION TIME...THEYRE CAPITALIST (ELITIST) AND THE JOKES ON...

YOU !!

MY BAD...THEIR WHITE, THEY CAN HAVE ALL THESE ARAB TIES, BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS & THEIR (ARAB 500 MILLION DOLLAR) BACKED & CHAIRED BY SAUDI ARABIAN BILL CLINTON LIBRARY...

NO PROBLEM, THEIR WHITE AND THE PATRIOTIC RULES DO NOT APPLY !!


Hillary & Bill are not Bitter, they are Prospering, while you and I Suffer the Cold Harsh & Bitter Realities of this Life.

Oh, I forgot, Your not Bitter, about this at all !!


Bill & Hillary Clinton...

Also, Bill Clintons Khazatstan Uranium Dealings.


1. Bill & Hillary are Elitist (109) Million Dollars Worth !

Note: The Clintons Cayman Island OffShore Account.

2. Bill Clintons Dubai Ports Dealings & his Partnership with Dubai (United Arab Emirates)

3. The 10 Million Donated to Bills Library by the Royal Saudi Arabian Family.

4. The Millions of Arab Donations from Qatar, Kuwait, saudi Arabia & United Arab Emirates.

5. Over (500 Million Dollars) donated to the Clinton Library, with its many Arab Donations, which is chaired by Saudi Arabians !!

[omaar-101]

NUMBERS NEVER LIE, BIAS, HATEFUL & JEALOUS PEOPLE OFTEN DO !!

BUT NUMBERS NEVER LIE !!

NOTE: CALL ME WHEN HILLARY CLINTON EVENS OBAMA''''S NUMBERS OR BETTER STILL, SURPASSES OBAMA''''S NUMBERS..PLEASE !!

UNTIL THAT MYSTICAL, MAJICAL, MAJESTICAL MOMENT OCCURS, YOU HILLARY CLINTON NUT JOBS, ARE WASTING WEB SPACE & TIME !!

CALL ME, WHEN SHE BREAKS EVEN OR BETTER STILL, WHEN SHE SURPASSESS OBAMA !!


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2
008/04/14/politics/main4013219.shtml#ccm
m

Total Delegate Count

Democrats | 2,025 Needed to Clinch

OBAMA 1,634

CLINTON 1,495

EDWARDS 18

Republicans | 1,191 Needed to Clinch

MCCAIN 1,241

HUCKABEE 231

ROMNEY 149

CBS News estimates. Includes super delegates.

[omaar-101]

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/in

dex.html

Democratic Delegates ; Delegates won:

Mar. 11 Total 2,025 needed

Barack Obama (19) 1,631.5

Hillary Rodham Clinton (14) 1,474.5


CALL ME WHEN HILLARY CLINTON EVENS WITH OBAMA''''''''S NUMBERS ABOVE AND WHEN HILLLARY CLINTON SURPASSES OBAMA''''''''S NUMBERS ABOVE...PLEASE

UNTIL THEN, YOU''''''''RE SOUNDING OFF ON A MEANINGLESS PLATFORM !!

A MAN THAT JUST PAID OFF HE AND HIS WIFE''''''''S STUDENT LOANS, PAYS PRIVATE SCHOOL, FOR 2 GIRLS, PAYS A MORTGAGE, CAR NOTE, VARIOUS INSURANCES, TRAVELS AND LIVES LIKE A DAILY CITIZEN ?

OR


A (72 YR. OLD) GRANDPA WHOSE MARRIED TO A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HEIRESS, WHO WANTS TO PRESERVE LOWER TAXES FOR THE RICH AND WHO SAYS HE WANTS THE U.S. TROOPS TO STAY IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN ?

OR

A WOMAN (HILLARY CLINTON) WHOSE MADE 109 MILLION DOLLARS (ELITIST0 WHO HAS AN OFFSHORE CAYMAN ISLAND ACCOUNT, WHOSE HUSBAND (BILL CLINTON) HAS A DUBAI PORTS DEAL AND RECIEVES MILLIONS FORM ARAB NATIONS AND REPUBLICS, WHO HAS SAUDI ARABIANS CHAIRING HIS LIBRARY, WITH AMASSED MONIES, TOTALING (500 MILLION) DOLLARS ?

GIVE ME THE GUY WHO HAS WENT TO STRUGGLES AND JUST RECENTLY PAID OFF HE AND HIS WIFE''''''''S STUDENT LOANS, WHO KNOWS WHAT STRUGGLES ARE !!

[omaar-101]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Willi


Hillary & Bill are not Bitter, they are Prospering, while you and I Suffer the Cold Harsh & Bitter Realities of this Life.

Oh, I forgot, Your not Bitter, about this at all !!


Bill & Hillary Clinton...

Also, Bill Clintons Khazatstan Uranium Dealings.

1. Bill & Hillary are Elitist (109) Million Dollars Worth !

Note: The Clintons Cayman Island OffShore Account.

2. Bill Clintons Dubai Ports Dealings & his Partnership with Dubai (United Arab Emirates)

3. The 10 Million Donated to Bills Library by the Royal Saudi Arabian Family.

4. The Millions of Arab Donations from Qatar, Kuwait, saudi Arabia & United Arab Emirates.

5. Over (500 Million Dollars) donated to the Clinton Library, with its many Arab Donations, which is chaired by Saudi Arabians !!

Let her Elist A!! Go door to door, shes Behind !!

Trying to pass herself off as a Middle Classed American Citizen !!

The Clinton Machine, knows No End, until its Over !!

[omaar-101]

If you''''re not Bitter, then Get on your Knees and give Thanks To the Bush (Sr. & Jr.) & the Clinton Administrations for what theyve done for You and this Great Country.. then Vote for Hillary Or McCain, for More of the Same !!

1. 4009 Killed in Action US Men & Women

2. Thousands of US Soldiers that have legs and arms Dis-Membered or Amputated in the Iraq War !!

3. The over 100,000 innocent Iraqi Citizens killed under False Pretenses (WOMD)

4. Over 12 Billion Dollars per month to fund this Occupation !!

5. The Very Devalued Dollar Bill !!

6. The High Unemployment Rate.

7. All Time High Il-Legal Immigration !

8. All Time High Forecloures !!

9. High A!! Gas Prices !!

10. Canada, and Still Communist China & Viet Nam , Socialist India and Mexico getting Americans jobs.

Obama is Lying Huh

Then Dont Complain Then...

Dont Worry be Happy !!

PS: Get on your knees and thank George (NAFTA/NAU) Bush & Bill (NAFTA/COMM.CHINESE CONNECTION) Clinton, for all the Good Times, Both Presidents have Brought America.

Reference Bill & Hillarys Norman Hsu China Connection.

[realpatriot1]

seah5,

Bin Laden has said 2 things which America has been totally tone deaf to:1) That he justifies attacking us to his supporters and would-be supporters by arguing that we are attacking Islam and sending our military to their lands, and, 2) That his primary goal in the war is not to defeat us by military means(he knows he can''t) but by goading us into a long protracted war that will implode our economy.

How has the U.S. responded? By sending our military to occupy an Islamic country where none of our attackers were being harbored prior to our arrival(Afghanistan is a different situation than Iraq). This has been a wonderful way for Al Quaeda to recruit gullible 18 year old suicide bombers to attack innocent people while the real perps direct their actions from the safety of Pakastani bunkers.

We have 160,000 troops in Iraq and the military is approaching the breaking point. Bin Laden can keep a fresh supply of young extremists coming for as long as we stay. We are the outsiders and will always be at a numerical and strategic disadvantage.

Then there''s the real prize for him, the economic cost. It''s a war of attrition where F-15s, Special Ops,tanks, and the like are not the real measure of power.

It''s not the Democrats who are missing the point. You win wars of attrition by taking out the 3C and the command structure, not by fighting street-t0-street guerilla war with the grunts of the operation.

[kansas1946]

Obama wrong for America
1. He''''ll never fight the correct fight against terrorism because he doesn''''t know what causes it
2. He can''''t fix "outsourcing" because 1) he doesn''''t know what causes it and 2) there is little the government can do
3. He can''''t fix the economy because he doesn''''t know what is the inherent flaw in his brand of populism.
4. He can''''t fix healthcare because he doesn''''t know what drives the costs and how his brand of populism will only make it worse.


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Posted by seah5 at 04:36 PM : Apr 14, 2008
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I am curious how you came to these conclusions. What exactly is "his brand of populism."

I see you are a Clinton supporter, and Obama has a much better plan for health care than Clinton. Under Clinton, everyone would be foreced to buy insurance, under Obama''s they would not. It would be optional. Frankly, Hillary seems more of a dictator than a president, and we have had eight years of that.

[kansas1946]

A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus
In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton.
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.
From 1978-1980, during Clinton''''s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.



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Posted by BLACKSPIRIT3 at 04:07 PM : Apr 14, 2008
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Newflash..Bill Clinton is not running for president.

[seah5]

Obama wrong for America
1. He''ll never fight the correct fight against terrorism because he doesn''t know what causes it
2. He can''t fix "outsourcing" because 1) he doesn''t know what causes it and 2) there is little the government can do
3. He can''t fix the economy because he doesn''t know what is the inherent flaw in his brand of populism.
4. He can''t fix healthcare because he doesn''t know what drives the costs and how his brand of populism will only make it worse.

[blackspirit3]

A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus
In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton.
In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.
From 1978-1980, during Clinton''s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.

[blackspirit3]

SEAH NOW WAKE UP FROM THAT DREAM

IN 1992 THE CLINTONS WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIX THINGS

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB

[seah5]

I think This country would do Best with Clinton. While in the Senate she worked hard for Americans. She showed up and voted, did the work. She is in touch with the people. She Is extremely capable to do the job and beat McCain. She would not be anyones puppet. She would not let The elitist push her around. She will be Strong. She would not sell America or Americans out. She Loves this Country and would put her Life on the line to Protect it, the American way and for Americans. She Knows this is a Great Country, Made up of Great Proud People. She is not Afraid to support our troops, because they are our Family''s. They are not just numbers to her. She knows what it is to be committed to This country. She has been a real American long enough to know, That Americans will Join together to Do what is best for America and the people.

She is not going to let her Religion cloud he judgment. She doesn''t owe anyone for getting where she is today, She worked hard to get there. She is Everything Obama wished he was.

She Loves this Country as much as you and me. She is not committed to or have allegiances to any other. She is Sincere.