Pennsylvania Will Be Key In November, Too

CBSNews.com Reports: Both Obama And Clinton Are Running Even With McCain In The Keystone State

(CBS)  This story was written by CBSNews.com political reporter Scott Conroy.

---

Pennsylvania continues to enjoy its unexpected early spring in the political spotlight, but don't expect the campaign circus to leave town for very long after the April 22 primary. As it has for the past two general elections, the Keystone State figures to play a pivotal role as a highly contested battleground this November.

After voting for Ronald Reagan and George Bush along with the nation at large during the 1980s, Pennsylvania swung Democratic and delivered solid victory margins to Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996. And it has remained in Democratic hands during the last two presidential elections, albeit narrowly enough to become one of the increasingly few states in which the nominees from both parties have spent significant amounts of time and resources.

"The reality is that it's been a closely contested state for some time," said Richard Johnston, Research Director of the National Annenberg Election Study at the University of Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania handed slim victories, along with its 21 Electoral Votes, to the Democrats in 2000 and 2004. Al Gore defeated George W. Bush by 4.2 percent, and John Kerry won by an even thinner 2.5 percent margin. But a Real Clear Politics average of recent polls conducted in the state suggests there is no guarantee that Pennsylvania will remain "light blue" in 2008. Both Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are locked in tight races against John McCain in Pennsylvania, with the presumptive GOP nominee leading Obama by 1.5 percent and Clinton ahead of McCain by 3.7 percent.

While Clinton holds a huge institutional advantage over McCain among Democratic partisans, Obama would be expected to siphon off more support from independents, as he has done throughout the primary season.

"To the extent that there is a race dimension, Clinton may have a stronger appeal in parts of the state outside Philadelphia, and I guess Pittsburgh, and probably would not suffer particularly inside those places," Johnston said. "On the other hand, Obama clearly has a greater ability to reach outside the core of the Democratic coalition."

Though Democratic presidential candidates have seen their efforts in the state pay off in recent years, Republicans dominated Pennsylvania at the state level in the late 1990s and in the first half of the current decade. The GOP controlled the governorship from 1995 to 2003, and it held both U.S. Senate seats and both houses of the state legislature from 1994 to 2006.

The demographics of Pennsylvania may be more complex than James Carville's famous quip about the state being Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between, but there is no doubt that the ability to rack up huge margins of victory in the big cities is key to any Democrat's hopes for carrying the state. Kerry was able to win it in 2004, even though he won only 12 of the 67 counties.

If Pennsylvania is a swing state, the Philadelphia suburbs are its swing region.

Director of the Franklin and Marshall College Poll Dr. Terry Madonna told CBSNews.com that suburbanites living near the state's largest city were the key factor in both Republican dominance at the state level and the Democratic Party's ability to carry Pennsylvania in recent presidential contests.

"The Republicans managed to fashion a coalition of voters that consisted of their core rural voters, the suburban Philadelphia voters, and they cherry-picked enough of the so-called Reagan Democrats-conservative Democrats in the southwestern part of the state-to put together a working majority," Madonna said. "When it came to presidential elections, however, the Democrats were able to win the Philadelphia suburbs with those important swing voters."

Before the 1980s, Philadelphia's working-class, largely Catholic voters trended Democratic, primarily due to economic interests. But as cultural issues became more salient, many of those voters became Reagan Democrats. In something of a 180-degree shift, Johnston said, those same social issues have led many middle-class Philadelphia suburbanites to move away from the Republican Party in recent years.

But the presumptive Republican nominee this time around may be just the kind of candidate who can reel those voters back into the GOP column.

"If any candidate has a chance to eat away at the Democratic propensities in the suburbs, it would be McCain," Madonna said. "There are aspects of his life and candidacy and voting record and all that that will help him with those voters. And if he can figure out a way to hold on to the hard conservatives … he can make this competitive."

So what effect, if any, will the protracted Pennsylvania Democratic primary have on that swing demographic and the Pennsylvania electorate in general? For one, the excitement surrounding the primary could carry over to November, benefiting whoever becomes the Democratic nominee.

"The number of new registrations in Pennsylvania is very high, particularly among those under 30-a group that has been heavily Democratic in the last two to three presidential election cycles," Eric Plutzer, a political science professor at Penn State University, said. "Related to that, the contested primary has allowed the Democratic Party to bolster its grass roots resources. If even a portion of these can be exploited in November, it gives the Democrats an additional asset it lacked in 2000 and 2004."

But there is a potential flip side to the fact that the Democrats have been campaigning against one another in the state for so many weeks. As Obama and Clinton continue to lace attacks against one another-some subtle, others not so much-into their stump speeches, the extended Pennsylvania primary battle could prove harmful to the party. The candidates have spent heavily in the run up to the primary. According to an estimate by Campaign Media Analysis, which tracks ad spending, Obama had spent $3.6 million on TV ads at the beginning of last week, compared to $1.3 million for Clinton. "If the campaigns get nasty in the next two weeks, this might harm the eventual nominee," Plutzer said.

In the lull between primary contests, the Democrats have directed as much of their criticism at Senator McCain as one another, but they have a face-to-face encounter Wednesday in Philadelphia where their focus will be aimed at one another. And while the campaign moves on after April 22, it’s a sure bet Pennsylvania will have another turn in the spotlight this fall.

[prinzowhales]

Pennsylvania is a state that has repeatedly elected Arlen Specter to the Senate. This is a man who was an accessory after the fact in the murder of President Kennedy, peddling the preposterous magic bullet theory to explain...

Now, Pennsylvanians will be asked to choose between two open border, pro-NAFTA candidates...or, they can vote for the pro-amnesty, open borders, NAFTA Republican crook...naturally enough, they will not vote for the anti-open borders, anti-NAFTA, pro-American Ron Paul who is still in the race...

Americans, magical-thinking creatures that they are... think that they can vote for people who stand for what they oppose and get what they want...Go ahead...vote for a winner...you did that in 2004 and 2000...how''d that work out? :)

[xlib]

I understand the goracle and jimma are urging hill to drop out of the race. I just love watching this go down and hearing the left blame the Republicans for the chaos within thier own party.
I do believe hill will get the nomination by hook or by crook.

[fairandbal]

It''s a travesty how closely tied CBS and the other corporate media are to the GOP. McCain is getting an unchallenged free ride by the press for anything he says and they still promote this myth that right now comparing McCain to any Dem candidate is somehow an apples to apples comparison. as if to say that McCain really has any chance unless he were given this ''free ride''.

[xlib]

prinzowhales-cite your source regarding spector and the kennedy assination. Coming from Philadelphia spector was the DA there in the 60''s. You need to be specific when throwing statements like that out.

So, cite your source.

[prinzowhales]

Silly Pennsylvanians...all whigged out in their small towns with their guns and religion...will surely flock to Obama who is an elder in a church based on a theology that names the white race as an "enemy" to be destroyed...this is what passes for Christianity in Wright''s Church.

Aside from this...Pennsylvania will love his support of Open Borders and Free Trade...and, as for "change"...they will be comforted by the fact that the same old Trilateralists, CFR''ers and Skull & Bones members are pulling his strings and that his financing is coming from Lester Crown, the Israel-firster behind defense contractor, General Dynamics... as well as half of the Israel-first Pritzker family (Hyatt Hotels)...the other half is going for Hillary.

The big joke on Democrats in the Keystone State is that union dues are going to support candidates who are promoting the export of American jobs and the de-industrialization of America as well as open borders.

So, Pennsylvanians...go out there and pick the lesser of three evils...How''d that work out for you in 2000 and 2004?

[shetmanhilry]

SHE-MAN HILLARY! HE/SHE IS PACKING A BIGGER ONE THAN MCCAIN OR OBAMA, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SURGICALLY IMPLANTED!

SHE-MAN HILLARY IS A LIAR, SUPPORTS WRECKLESS PROGRAMS WITH TAXPAYERS MONEY, EMBEZELS CAMPAIGN FUNDS, A SHIFTLESS REPUBLICAN PAID SCAB, AND DOWNRIGHT NASTY-TO-EVERYONE INCLUDING SLICK-WILLIE!

YEAH, HILLARY CANNOT WIN, BUT SHE MAY REDUCE OBAMAS CHANCES BY MORE WRECKLESS NAME CALLING AND LIEING (ARKANSAS HARDBALL POLITICS). DEMOCRATIC COMMITEE SHOULD ELIMINATE HER AT ONCE SINCE NO MATHMATICAL CHANCE, UNLESS:

1. REPUBES ARE PLAYING GOOD COP/BAD COP WITH TAX PAYERS MONEY,

AND/OR

2. THE REPUBES PROGRAMMED VOTECOUNT MACHINES ARE GOING TO PULL A MIRACLE AND CAST NEGATIVE VOTE COUNTS FOR OBAMA WITH MORE VOTES THAN PENNSYLVANIA HAS (LIKE GW BUSH PULLED OFF BOTH ELECTIONS).

TAKE YOUR PICK, BUT ITS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE BOTH SINCE SHE HAS ALREADY BEEN MATHNATICALLY ELIMINATED.

OF COURSE SHE GETS A MILLION DOLLARS A DAY THAT SHE DISRUPTS THE FREE ELECTION PROCESS.

[prinzowhales]

Xlib--Are you familiar with the "magic bullet" theory? If you are and have the remotest familiarity with trajectories, forensics and physics, you will see that Specter''s ''theory'' is unsupportable... particularly within the context of the Warren Commission explanation for the murder...the window position, the tree limbs, the position of the target, the photographed position of the alleged expended shells on the floor of the Book Depository...the list goes on...To call Specter''s concoction a "theory" gives it far too much respectability.

[mike71067]

The longer the Obama-Clinton feud continues, the more we know about Obama. And the more we learn, the more apparent it is that he will be a liability in the general election. These issues that he''s talking his way out of now (Rev. Wright, etc.), will kill him in November. Hillary might actually be the stronger candidate, because we already know everything there is to know about her.

Incidentally, none of the three candidates are religious, really. But Obama and Clinton are pretending to be. That''s disturbing. At least McCain is not pretending to be someone he''s not. Democrats should not talk about religion, because it comes across as fake.

[lordmi]

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/carl-bernstein-what-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-look-like/

[mike71067]

"McCain is getting an unchallenged free ride by the press for anything he says and they still promote this myth that right now comparing McCain to any Dem candidate is somehow an apples to apples comparison."
-Posted by fairandbal at 09:30 AM : Apr 14, 2008

Wrong. McCain is keeping his mouth shut for the most part, and letting the Democrats destroy each other while the press goes wild. And it''s working quite well.

Incidentally, the "magic bullet theory" that you guys keep referring to is hogwash. Oswald fired three shots, and two hit Kennedy - one killing him. Period. The bullet trajectories that you whine about are entirely possible and are in fact likely. It''s over. Oswald alone killed Kennedy.

[blackspirit3]

Timothy McVeigh bombs Oklahoma - Bitter
Floyd Looker - attempted to bomb three federal installations. - Bitter
Donald Beauregard - serving five years for attempting to blow up power stations. - Bitter
Randall, co-founder of an Alabama militia group and the man who embarrassed federal agents by exposing a racist event that they attended. %u2013 FBI HANGING WITH KKK- BITTER
Branch Davidians in Waco - Bitter towards Americanism
White Supremacist Randy Weaver - Bitter towards Americanism
Virginia Tech Campus - Leaves at Least 33 Dead - BITTER
Columbine High School massacre - killing 12 students and a teacher, as well as wounding 23 others - BITTER

http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/anti-govt-patriot-groups.htm

Its a whole nation of bitter folks that hate America and they are Mostly White nationalist supremist. They are Bitter about racial mixing, they are Bitter about blacks advanceing, they are Bitter about Jewish Americans and what they perceive as them having control over this Government.

Obama was correct.

[skyk-2009]

The longer the Obama-Clinton feud continues, the more we know about Obama. And the more we learn, the more apparent it is that he will be a liability in the general election. These issues that he''''s talking his way out of now (Rev. Wright, etc.), will kill him in November. Hillary might actually be the stronger candidate, because we already know everything there is to know about her.

Incidentally, none of the three candidates are religious, really. But Obama and Clinton are pretending to be. That''''s disturbing. At least McCain is not pretending to be someone he''''s not. Democrats should not talk about religion, because it comes across as fake.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by mike71067 at 09:49 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Oh Please! Lets stop pretending the McBush even has a chance when all the REAL issues are brought out. He proposes the same tired old economics that has failed now for the THIRD Time. He''s proposing an endless War in Iraq and who knows what other war this OLD TIRED Man has in mind. Sure he''s out of the spotlight right now the two sides fight it out and let that go on as long as it will so that ONE side or the OTHER will not feel slighted but when you look at the raw numbers of people showing up to ACTUALLY vote in these primary elections it''s staggering. There''s an Avalanche headed at McCain and the Republican Party...whole new generation out there folks!!

[skyk-2009]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain leading Barack Obama, 49% to 42%. The presumptive Republican nominee also leads Hillary Clinton 47% to 43%.

Overall, among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 54% and unfavorably by 43%. Obama%u2019s ratings are 48% favorable and 50% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 46% favorable, 51% unfavorable


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by trapbreak at 10:06 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Just keep on dreaming sparky!! LOL IF you check those numbers you''ll find the problem there. Regardless, McBush is getting a free ride right now and he''s EARNED it...all those years backing "Trickle Down" like a good soldier and the support for the MASSIVE failure in Iraq... he deserves the free right while the MAJORITY and I do mean the VAST MAJORITY out there fight it out on Obama and Clinton. Enjoy while you can!

[skyk-2009]

Looks to me he is leading in the polls, and he isn''''t putting his foot in his mouth with middle America.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by trapbreak at 10:11 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Better check those polls again Sparky.. You got the ONLY one that say''s that you know. LOL Regardless when people are faced with the ECONOMIC FAILURE of the Republican Party and the FAILURE of Iraq, after this fight is over, I feel AWLFUL confident where they will fall. You don''t think all those Republican''s in Congress are quiting or getting whooped is some sort of illusion do you? LOL

[blackspirit3]

MC-STAIN CANT WIN - WHAT HE GONNA DO - MISTAKENLY SEND US TO WAR WITH IRAN AFTER HAMAS BLOWS UP A BOMB IN NEW YORK? HE DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIS DOPE FIEND WIFE OR HIS WEED SMOKIN DAUGHTER. MCCAIN HASD BAGGAGE YOU FOLKS DON''T EVEN CARE TO LOOK AT.

[skyk-2009]

Just can''''t shut up Rev Wright - Back at Trinity on Saturday spewing his hate of whites and America

%u201CAmerica%u2019s mistreatment of blacks is the result of the founding fathers, who planted slavery and white supremacy in the DNA of this republic.%u201D

Barack, you mentor is giving the word.






Posted by trapbreak at 10:09 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

So you''re saying we should just IGNORE all the MASSIVE failure of the Republican Party, whom McBush is a LEADER of because of something some old angry black preacher say''s? You are NUTS!! I mean absolutely NUTS!! LOL

[skyk-2009]

MC-STAIN CANT WIN - WHAT HE GONNA DO - MISTAKENLY SEND US TO WAR WITH IRAN AFTER HAMAS BLOWS UP A BOMB IN NEW YORK? HE DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIS DOPE FIEND WIFE OR HIS WEED SMOKIN DAUGHTER. MCCAIN HASD BAGGAGE YOU FOLKS DON''''T EVEN CARE TO LOOK AT.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by BLACKSPIRIT3 at 10:15 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Oh let them dream. With the Democrat Party in a fight between TWO relatively equal canidates McBush SHOULD be WAY out in front... I do mean WAY out, like 10 - 15 Percent. LOL But hey when you have NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING to run on as far as record except RECORD DEBT and a War that NEVER had to be costing the people 12 BILLION Dollars a month, they need to enjoy the time they have that''s for sure.

[byeneocons]

I thought what Obama said about guns and religion was daring and right on point. The Rove machine used guns, religion, and abortion to snooker the disenchanted into voting for the reformed drunken trustfunder.

What do these politicians do after they get the vote based on non-issues like abortion? They call their D.C. Madam, like David Vitter did, or they go try to pick up a guy in an airport restroom, or they send dirty emails to male congressional pages, and laugh all the way to the bank.

Obama was right on point. The disenchanted often vote on non-issues like gun control and religion, two things no politician touches anyway.

[skyk-2009]

I knew John Kennedy.
Barack Obama is no John Kennedy.

No that is true but he believes in the same basic things Kennedy believed in. Seperation of Church and State; giving a working stiff a chance to pay his bills in a 40 hour week, allowing people to be insured again for Medical for them and their families. You see they are NOT the same because Kennedy did NOT have to deal with the twin headed monster of "Trickle Down" and "free trade".

[byeneocons]

trapbreak: If you want to talk about patriotism, can you explain where Cheney and Bush were during the Viet Nam war?

[perceptions5]

Well it should be an easy win by McCain in November.

Don''t look for the voters in Florida and Michigan to back the Dem candidate since they don''t recognize Florida and Michigan as US States

And don''t look for the folks in PA to vote for Obama if he''s the candidate.

And the "attempted" smears by the Dems followers won''t hurt McCain in November, either.

[mudrose-2009]

Posted by skyk

Snoboma, the Effete Slob who believes that a typical white person is a gun-toting, religious clinging, antipathetic immigrant-hating, bitter class, has just seal his fate. No matter what the Snoboma says now, he has been outed as the Rev. Wright''s disciple. I didn''t think anybody would ever surpass Hillary is such elitism, but this Oreo has finally showed his colors. Speaking to people in Blue States has been quite elightening - they are not going with Snoboma.

[skyk-2009]

Unifier? Only 25% of Americans agree with Obamas perception of ''''guns and religion''''in ''''bitter'''' middle America.

.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by trapbreak at 10:19 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Where are you getting those figures from??? LOL 85% of American''s agree with him in that we are headed in the WRONG direction. Way over 60% of them agree with him on Iraq! The number is even larger when it comes to the economy and "Trickle Down". Now I wonder which American''s are going to be voting on. Humm??? On the one side you have all the MASSIVE FAILURE and the other you have IDEAS taking us in another direction!! Dream on my friend dream on!!

[mudrose-2009]

trapbreak: If you want to talk about patriotism, can you explain where Cheney and Bush were during the Viet Nam war?

Posted by ByeNeocons

And where were you during the Viet Nam war buddy?

[skyk-2009]

Well it should be an easy win by McCain in November.

Don''''t look for the voters in Florida and Michigan to back the Dem candidate since they don''''t recognize Florida and Michigan as US States

And don''''t look for the folks in PA to vote for Obama if he''''s the candidate.

And the "attempted" smears by the Dems followers won''''t hurt McCain in November, either.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by perceptions5 at 10:24 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

LOL Right! LOL These are the issues the voters are going to vote on! They aren''t going to be worried that the economy is a shambles and that the Republican''s have taken us from a balanced budget and surplus to RECORD DEFICITS!! LOL They aren''t going to concern themselves with the MILLIONS and MILLONS of good paying jobs that have been exported... NO! Their going to focus on??? The Primary mess in Mich. and Fla!! LOL I don''t know what you are smoking but IT can''t be domestic!! LOL

[mudrose-2009]

Snoboma, the Effete Slob who believes that a typical white person is a gun-toting, religious clinging, antipathetic immigrant-hating, bitter class, has just seal his fate. No matter what the Snoboma says now, he has been outed as the Rev. Wright''''s disciple. I didn''''t think anybody would ever surpass Hillary is such elitism, but this Oreo has finally showed his colors. Speaking to people in Blue States has been quite elightening - they are not going with Snoboma.

P.S. Michele Snoboma upon seeing a woman at her husband''s campaign stomp dressed to the nines said to her, "I love accessories." "My husband is an accessory". It''s a good thing despite her poor grades that Affirmative Action made it possible for her to attend Princeton. Intellectually she''s a bit wonton, too.

[skyk-2009]

Snoboma, the Effete Slob who believes that a typical white person is a gun-toting, religious clinging, antipathetic immigrant-hating, bitter class, has just seal his fate. No matter what the Snoboma says now, he has been outed as the Rev. Wright''''s disciple. I didn''''t think anybody would ever surpass Hillary is such elitism, but this Oreo has finally showed his colors. Speaking to people in Blue States has been quite elightening - they are not going with Snoboma.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by mudrose at 10:25 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

No their going to go into that voting booth and vote for someone who promises MORE of the Same!! LOL IF they do that they DESERVE more of the same and I''ll be sitting right here reminding them of it EVERY day!! LOL You know into the 3rd year of the Depression and the 10th year of Iraq??? ROFLMAO You''d better have a little more going for you that that childish name there sparky... don''t think it''ll work for you this time.

[skyk-2009]

%u201CIsrael was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom.%u201D - -
John F. Kennedy



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by trapbreak at 10:26 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

You take a quote from a speech made during the cold war and it proves what?? Are you people so into this cult mentality that you can''t understand the difference? Look John Kennedy as a FIRM believer in the Seperation of Church and State but he also battled the Soviet Union with all he had. He was also smart enought to keep us OUT of the Religious War in the middle east. I''ll bet he''d also agree with Obama about going after those who ACTUALLY attacked our nation as well.

[antoniof123]

It is funny but everyone blames the media but it is not their fault. In the past we didn''t have the tecnology we have today the information overload that is happening before what you saw was controled by the elite now it is a free for all.

While many love this the conservatives hate it because it forces all actions to come to light. In fact that has always been a center peice for the Republicans intimate, and paranoia, brought on by fear. Nixon was a prime example and Bush has taken it evne further.

That is why tecnology is not the friend of the neo cons facism has to exist in a vacum or it will be exposed.

[xlib]

byeneocons-Cheney & Bush aren''t running again but since you bring up two politicans who aren''t running for office, where was bubba during Vietnam??? Since he is running for First Whatever and you brought it up, where was he?? Oh yea, he was at Oxford, not getting a degree, not inhaling but protesting against his country. What a guy!!
I know your a lib and your history only goes back, oh, 2 months but try real hard and think back to when bubba ran the first time against Dole. Ok, remember, Dole was a WWII vet and bubba was, who the h*&l knows. It was thougt to be in bad taste at that time to criticize a politican who hadn''t served in the military. So, Dole''s record was off limits as well as bubba''s non record of service.
Funny how you people think everyone has bought into your rewritting of history.

[skyk-2009]

Obama''''s unfavorable ratings exceed his favorable

Overall, among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 54% and unfavorably by 43%. Obama%u2019s ratings are 48% favorable and 50% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 46% favorable, 51% unfavorable


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by trapbreak at 10:33 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Now what in the world do you expect FOX and their polster to give you? the truth?? Hey no problem my friend... DON''T believe any of them...polls that is, just go out and walk down the street. ASK people what they think about the economy? ASK the people what they think about the direction of the country? ASK the people what they think about the mess in Iraq??

[perceptions5]

LOL Right! LOL These are the issues the voters are going to vote on! They aren''''t going to be worried that the economy is a shambles and that the Republican''''s have taken us from a balanced budget and surplus to RECORD DEFICITS!! LOL They aren''''t going to concern themselves with the MILLIONS and MILLONS of good paying jobs that have been exported... NO! Their going to focus on??? The Primary mess in Mich. and Fla!! LOL I don''''t know what you are smoking but IT can''''t be domestic!! LOL


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by skyk at 10

Nice spin Skyk, the only problem with your statement is that our economy was fine when we had a Republican congress..........

Now a year after the Democrats took control of our 110th Do Nothing Democrat Congresss we find ourselves in a recession.

Great work Dems now if we can elect a Do Nothing Democrat president maybe we can slip into a recession.

You have a lot to be proud of from your hero''s Skyk.............NOT.

[xlib]

antonio123-as a conservative and a typical white woman I love the technology. See, for us we finally have another venue to get real news. See, the c^%^p here is filtered and you only get one side. So, don''t know what your post was about but, hey, it''s still a free country and the fairness doctrine isn''t in effect as yet so go for it. SAy, how''s Air America doing?? Where''s randi rhoades and did franken ever pay that money back.?

[notblue]

antoniaf, while the information provided by the media is instant and global, it is the mdeias responsiblity to be unbiased and not driven by ideology. Unfortunately, the media has become agenda driven and BIASED! Whether it be CBS/leftwing central or FOX/rightwing central. So give it a rest, the media has become nothing more than another form of entertainment and or a tool of politics.

[johngoodnews]

The only campaign issue which is important is bringing American prosperity back to the middle class instead of forcing them to tread economic water before they sink. And there is only one way to do that: eliminate trade with China at the 100% level and revitalize America''s productive capacity for public and private infrastructure at all levels--from simple to the complex--and regulate oil as any "utility" is regulated. NAFTA, etc., ain''t the enemy; the horribly lack of symmetry in trade with China is. It is notable that not one candidate will commit to that. And that is as frightening as watching Bush hold hands with an Arab oil sheik whose ties to supporting terrorist al Qaida organizations is well known. I fear that failure to do what needs to be done now dooms our children to lives of struggle in a Nation that was once proud and strong. It doesn''t matter to me whether Obama or Clinton or McCain is elected if none of them are prepared to act to protect America.

[skyk-2009]

Funny how you people think everyone has bought into your rewritting of history.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by Xlib at 10:36 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Shouldn''t we be talking about the PRESENT and NOT history... YOU know like the last EIGHT years? We handed the Republican Party a nation at Peace and with a Balanced Budget and a Surplus. We intrusted them to make our lives better from there. Now IF they did that then they deserve our votes... IF they instead turned the Balanced Budget INTO a Record Deficit, IF they turned the Surplus into RECORD DEBT and IF they started a NEEDLESS War then they should all, every last one of them, be voted out!! What happened to being an AMERICAN for goodness sake??

[xlib]

skyk-barack hussein obama is no john fitzgerald kennedy. Your empty suits messege has bee preaching a whole lot of entitlement while kennedy urged us to "ask what we can do for our country". The messeges are not the same at all.

[omega39-2009]

Obama''''s unfavorable ratings exceed his favorable

Overall, among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 54% and unfavorably by 43%. Obama%u2019s ratings are 48% favorable and 50% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 46% favorable, 51% unfavorable

Posted by trapbreak

A few other numbers to consider, February fund raising.

Obama, Barack IL $55,369,162
Clinton, Hillary NY $34,466,631
McCain, John AZ $10,937,453

Will you look at that, Barak raised more than the other two doofuses combined. Oh, and Mr. 54% favorable has raised all of $10 million to the $78 Million raised by the Democrats, ROFLMAO!!!

[skyk-2009]

Nice spin Skyk, the only problem with your statement is that our economy was fine when we had a Republican congress..........

Now a year after the Democrats took control of our 110th Do Nothing Democrat Congresss we find ourselves in a recession.

Great work Dems now if we can elect a Do Nothing Democrat president maybe we can slip into a recession.

You have a lot to be proud of from your hero''''s Skyk.............NOT.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by perceptions5 at 10:37 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Oh PLEASE! First of all the BORROW and SPENDERS were REPUBLICAN''s and EVERYONE knows it. SECOND the PRESIDENT submits the budget to congress and Bush NEVER not ONCE submitted a Balanced Budget. They actually BELIEVED that Deficits didn''t matter...It caught up to them and NOW you want to blame the democrats? Please, go sell that to someone in the south.

[perceptions5]

IF they instead turned the Balanced Budget INTO a Record Deficit, IF they turned the Surplus into RECORD DEBT and IF they started a NEEDLESS War then they should all, every last one of them, be voted out!! What happened to being an AMERICAN for goodness sake??


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by skyk at 10:40

........Not sure why I waste my time responding to the contaminated liberal Skyk but here we go again.

The surpluses of the 1990''s were the direct result of the Republican congress.

President''s can only spend money that the Congress passes in the budget resolutions.

[xlib]

skyk, sweetie, you brought up jfk. AND, Bush and Cheney are not running AND you prove my point about you libs not having long memories and rewriting history. We need to remember our history, sweetie, not forget it or rewrite it to suit our own (your own) political gain. And, last but not least, BUsh and Cheney are not running and your guys are socialists.

[skyk-2009]

antoniaf, while the information provided by the media is instant and global, it is the mdeias responsiblity to be unbiased and not driven by ideology. Unfortunately, the media has become agenda driven and BIASED! Whether it be CBS/leftwing central or FOX/rightwing central. So give it a rest, the media has become nothing more than another form of entertainment and or a tool of politics.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by notblue at 10:40 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

The MEDIA my friend is like EVERY thing else in this nation. It''s driven by the WANTS of the PEOPLE. They WANT media that digs into things, finds out what is going on. Anyone who says that ANY of the corruption and Illigal Acts we now know about with the Bush Administration would have been exposed by FOX is simply LYING to themselves.

[perceptions5]

Obama, Barack IL $55,369,162
Clinton, Hillary NY $34,466,631
McCain, John AZ $10,937,453

Will you look at that, Barak raised more than the other two doofuses combined. Oh, and Mr. 54% favorable has raised all of $10 million to the $78 Million raised by the Democrats, ROFLMAO!!!










--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by omega39 at

.....Wow omega39, looks like you are the party of the rich afterall.......another sterotype ruined.

How many I.O.U''s is Obama writing and how many favors is he committing to?

[xlib]

prinzowhales-I am quite familiar with the kennedy assination and the Warren Commission. I guess I never heard that the whole "magic bullet" came from Arlen Spector, is all. So, if you could provide a site I would be happy to review your take. By the way, a theory is just that a theory, proven or unproven.
And calling spector an "accessory after the fact" is a bit much, don''t you think? Sort of dramatic if I must say.

[repdemapart]

There is nothing wrong by saying some people are BITTER - It true!!

BUT WHAT MAKES ME ANGRY is when NOBAMA said that ''THESE'' poeple cling to GUNS, RELIGION, ANTIPATHY AND EVEN ANTI-IMMIGRATION. How does he know that?

This is Like Goerge Allen''s ''MACACA'' comment.

It tells what''s inside this creep.

[xlib]

makeitso128-nice reference to senator byrd a true patriotic American and grand old man of the democratic party. Great tribute.

[mcvet]

........Not sure why I waste my time responding to the contaminated liberal Skyk but here we go again.

The surpluses of the 1990''''s were the direct result of the Republican congress.

President''''s can only spend money that the Congress passes in the budget resolutions.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by perceptions5 at 10:44 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

Typical Nazi! Take credit and HOPE no one notices?? ROFLMAO Let''s forget about the fact that CLINTON FORCED the FASCIST to shut down the Government... let''s talk about the FACT that the Republican''s WERE handed a Balanced Budget and THEY had conplete control of the Government!! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! ROFLMAO Dumb as a box of rocks these Nazi''s!!

[mcvet]

How many I.O.U''''s is Obama writing and how many favors is he committing to?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by perceptions5 at 10:46 AM : Apr 14, 2008
+ report abuse

You fascist REALLY should get your news someplace else... IF you did you''d know that the VAST majority and I do mean the VAST majority of those who are giving to his champaign are $50 - $100 types. They KNOW what he has committed to them of course and they seem to agree. Sieg Heil Bush

[omega39-2009]

....Wow omega39, looks like you are the party of the rich afterall.......another sterotype ruined.

How many I.O.U''''s is Obama writing and how many favors is he committing to?

Posted by perceptions5

Not at all, the majority of those donations are from donors contributing less than $200. Heres more....

Source of funds

Obama Individual contributions $192,757,471 100%
Clinton Individual contributions $151,592,927 90%
McCain Individual contributions $58,947,056 91%

Hmmmm, I wonder where that undisclosed 10% for both Clinton and McCain came from?

[notblue]

skyk, economic policies take years to mature, you sir obviously are under the mistaken impression that once a president is elected and incorporates an economic policy the results are immediate, that is not the case. Clintons free ride was because of the policices of the previous administration, Clinotn was responsible for NAFTA, which resulted injobs moving overseas, he was also responsible for deregulation which created the ENRON''s and worldcom''s. Economic change created by presidents are a legacy affecting future administrations. The economy is a giant selfeeding monster that does not transition the minute a new president takes office.