April 11, 2008

Taxpayers Fund Bill Clinton Spending

Politico: Former President, Who Amassed A Fortune After Leaving Office, Has Taken Full Advantage Of Perks

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(The Politico)  This story was written by Kenneth P. Vogel.

The Clintons have made a $100-million fortune since leaving the White House, but a Politico analysis found that hasn’t kept Bill Clinton from taking full advantage of the publicly funded perks offered to ex-presidents.

In fact, his presidential retirement benefits cost taxpayers almost as much as those of the other two living ex-presidents combined.

The price tag for Clinton’s federal retirement allowance from 2001 through the end of this year will run $8 million, compared to $5.5 million for George H. W. Bush’s and $4 million for Jimmy Carter’s during the same period.

Since 2001, Clinton has received more of almost every benefit available to former presidents - from his pension to his staff’s salaries and benefits to supplies. His $420,000 phone bill and $3.2 million office rent tab both nearly surpassed the totals rung up for those purposes by Bush, Carter and the late former presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan combined. As a group, they spent $484,000 on telephone service and $3.8 million on rent in the same span.

The figures come from congressional reports studying the presidential retirement program and from summaries of annual budget requests by the U.S. General Services Administration, which administers the program, created to allow former presidents to enjoy dignified retirements without having to take jobs that demean or commercialize the presidency.

Some of Clinton’s greater spending stems from the fact that he served eight years in office, qualifying him for a federal health insurance plan unavailable to one-term presidents, and that he selected office space in the high-priced Manhattan market.

Politico’s analysis comes on the heels of the release last week of seven years' worth of Clinton family tax documents. They showed that the Clintons pulled in $111 million in total income from 2000, their last year in the White House, through 2007.

Given Bill Clinton’s earning potential and that of future ex-presidents, “the benefits taxpayers shell out for their care and feeding just don’t make sense anymore,” contended Pete Sepp, spokesman for the fiscally conservative, nonprofit National Taxpayers Union.

The group has pushed to reduce or cap the perks available to former presidents and their families. “There’s a very flimsy justification for such generosity in many ex-presidents’ cases. In Bill Clinton’s case, there’s zero,” he said.

But Jay Carson, who worked for Clinton after his presidency and now serves as a spokesman for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, said the former president's retirement allowances are justified.

“Since leaving office, President Clinton has represented the American people at home and abroad, at state funerals, through his work with former President Bush on the tsunami and Hurricane Katrina, and through his vigorous charitable foundation work to fight AIDS, climate change and childhood obesity,” Carson said in a statement.

None of the retirement resources are used for Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Carson said.

“President Clinton’s office’s policy is that staff members paid by GSA who engage in political activity may not do so on GSA-paid time,” he noted. In addition, Carson said Clinton did not spend the full amount allocated to him over the past three years.

Congress passed the Former Presidents Act in 1958, after news spread of the financial struggles of former President Harry Truman. He wrote in his memoirs: “I could never lend myself to any transaction, however respectable, that would commercialize on the prestige and dignity of the office of the presidency.”

The act and subsequent legislation now entitle each former president to a pension, an office and staff, travel costs, mailing privileges and assorted other supplies, materials and services.

That’s to say nothing of lifetme Secret Service protection, which costs significantly more than discretionary retirement allowances. It was not included in Politico’s analysis because the agency doesn’t disclose its budget for protecting individuals. The Government Accountability Office in a 2001 report pegged the cost of protecting all former presidents from 1977 through 2000 to $370 million, yet protected parties typically have little say in the size and shape of their details.

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While President Clinton is devoted to supporting Sen. Clinton’s candidacy, his office continues to function.

Jay Carson, spokesman for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign
Former presidents can decide whether to accept the act’s retirement benefits, as well as how much to request.

When a former president wants a given perk, his office informs the GSA, which submits a proposed budget to Congress using previous years’ expenses as a guide. Since 2001, no ex-president has declined all the benefits, though some have accepted fewer specific perks or turned them down outright.

In 2002, for instance, Ford didn’t accept a dime for printing costs, while Carter did not receive any money for his staff’s benefits. According to GAO and Congressional Research Service records, Reagan from 1996 or earlier, until his death in 2004, did not accept a health insurance benefit that two-term presidents can opt to add to their pension payments.

Clinton applied for the health benefit before leaving office, according to the GSA, and has received it each year. This year, it was $10,000, according to GSA.

Carson said Clinton never sought increases from the GSA’s proposals and, “on occasion, his staff has recommended decreases to the proposed budgets.”

The GSA categorizes the benefits in broad categories that sometimes leave much to the imagination. For instance, since 2001, Clinton has received more than the other former presidents for “other services” ($751,000) and “supplies & materials” ($143,000), while Bush got the largest allowance for “equipment” ($328,000).

The GSA said “supplies” include “office supplies, publications and subscriptions,” while “equipment” means “computers and peripheral equipment, as well as servers.”

Some expenses, like phone bills and rent, have no limit, while others, like staff salaries, are capped.

Presidential pensions are statutorily set at the same amount per year as the salaries of sitting Cabinet secretaries, who will earn $191,000 this year.

As for the higher rent for Clinton’s office, which is located in a penthouse in New York City’s Harlem neighborhood, Carson said it’s a function of location, location and location.

While Clinton’s office is costlier per square foot, it is also more spacious than that of Bush or Carter.

This year, according to a 2007 Congressional Research Service report, taxpayers will fork over $516,000 for Clinton’s 8,300-square-foot Harlem office, while Carter’s 4,200-square-foot Atlanta digs will run them $102,000. Bush’s 4,600-square-foot Houston spread will cost $175,000.

Carson stressed that not all of the space in Clinton’s office is usable.

Clinton’s rent would have been less if his office were on a lower floor, according to a 2001 GAO report, which said the rent per square foot for Clinton’s office is about 4 percent higher than that of a Social Security office located on a lower floor in the same building. But the lower office doesn’t have the same view of Central Park, the George Washington Bridge and most of Manhattan as that reportedly offered by Clinton’s suite.

The offices of Bush and Reagan both also offered “good panoramic views,” according to the GAO report, which said that, when it came to selecting Clinton’s office, “no other comparable properties exist in the area.”

Clinton’s rent is quite a bit less than that of the office that was his first choice: a 56th-floor midtown Manhattan suite two blocks south of Central Park. Clinton backed away from plans to locate there amid criticism from congressional Republicans, then in the majority, over the estimated $811,000-per-year rent.

Carson said Clinton’s Harlem office continues to serve a vital function, even as Clinton travels the country - paid for by his wife’s presidential campaign, not taxpayers - stumping for her.

“While President Clinton is devoted to supporting Sen. Clinton’s candidacy, his office continues to function,” Carson said. “Each year, former President Clinton’s office receives, processes and responds to tens of thousands of pieces of mail and e-mail correspondences and thousands of scheduling requests, the majority of which are related to his position as a former president.”

By Kenneth P. Vogel
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by libh8er April 11, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
He''s just a typical ''do as I say not as I do'' left wing lib. Gore wants us to use mercury laden lamps yet he flies all over creation on his private jet. They''re all a bunch of hypocrites.
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by notopennshut April 11, 2008 1:37 PM PDT
Just another example of how politicians are taking advantage of us the american people!! This is not just about Bill Clinton, but his is a clear example. Making millions and millions each year, and we pay taxes to support him for most of his other spending, while he gets to keep most of what he earns? Those of you making $20-$30 per hour, try to figure out what percent of your wages are going to support Bill and all the other politicians! No wonder many want to run for office and then retire with all these perks while the rest of us work till our death to keep these people living a cosy life. Go figure!!
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by xlib April 11, 2008 1:41 PM PDT
No other former president has become wealthier than ole bubba. This is not news and I kind of wonder why this site is running with it. After all, while bubba was president the missus was known as co-president. So, if the madame gets elected we get ole bill back.
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by concorde5 April 11, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
I see nothing wrong with Bill Clinton taking benefits. This is a non issue.
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by jack3213 April 11, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
do you feel like a sucker yet??
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by rowdytexan2 April 11, 2008 2:03 PM PDT
Oh, this is priceless! Bill Clinton was president of the United States for eight years! He earned his retirement just like every other president has.

C''mon, Obama, isn''t there a real issue that you can screw up, instead of trying to tear down the Clinton''s?
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by libh8er April 11, 2008 2:14 PM PDT
''Taxpayers Fund Bill Clinton Spending''

And this from the pair who want to zero in on CEO pay. PAHLEEZE. Hillary is a socialist, just like Chavez, only in a pant suit.
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by April 11, 2008 2:23 PM PDT
How is this Obamas fault? I dont see him listed in this article. And this just shows Hillary Clinton and her family love to milk whatever they can dry. They dont care about the Middle class. Its all about them. They TAKE From the Middle Class and the Lower Class, for their purposes.
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by blackspirit3 April 11, 2008 2:24 PM PDT
IN 1992 THE CLINTONS WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIX THINGS

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB
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by April 11, 2008 2:25 PM PDT
Talk about Company you keep?? What about Chelsea''s boyfriends parents both served in Politcal office and the father is in jail for fraud? Just where Bill Clinton needs to be.
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by libh8er April 11, 2008 2:28 PM PDT
IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB
Posted by BLACKSPIRIT3 at 02:24 PM : Apr 11, 2008

Wow...they were real trend setters, weren''t they? LOL
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by April 11, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
$800,000 dollars of Bill Clintons Income listed is from speeches he did for a company that supports the NAFTA and supports free trade with Columbia. Hillary takes $5mil out to pay her campaign bills. Isnt this a conflict of interest? She laughs and crackles at the question. Says everyone has a right to their free opinion.. so she can take money he made for something she is against, yet she lets Penn go for his opinion? How hypocritical does she need to get? How many times is she going to make an excuse for what she is doing but that excuse doesnt equal up all around?

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by libh8er April 11, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
He has done a lot for us since his term ended...
Posted by jh6379 at 02:13 PM : Apr 11, 2008

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!! You gotta be f**king kidding, right??????
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by April 11, 2008 3:03 PM PDT
Those two are two peas in a pod for lies, misspokes, etc. Vote for Hillary and we wont need soap operas anymore we will have Clintons Days of our Lives. Chelsea''s boyfriends parents were in politcal offices and now his father is in jail for fraud, somewhere Bill Clinton should be. What is Hillary gonna do lock him up in his room at the white house? Geesh.

what about Bills Bosnia Mishap and his put down of Obama??

Bill Clinton never fails to amaze me with his Gaffs! he not only raised the Bosnia Lie again yesterday of Hillary''''s, but Bill Clinton made the following statement at the end of a Rant about Barack Obama:

"Next we will see him run an ad saying "vote for me I dont steal cars"
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by rowdytexan2 April 11, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
How is this Obamas fault? I dont see him listed in this article. And this just shows Hillary Clinton and her family love to milk whatever they can dry. They dont care about the Middle class. Its all about them. They TAKE From the Middle Class and the Lower Class, for their purposes.


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Posted by jenjen27 at 02:23 PM : Apr 11, 2008

Because it''s just Obama''s campaign squad putting out something to tear down his opponent. He doesn''t have a *** thing to run on, so he destroys his oppoents. It''s been his game since the first day he went into politics.

This article was pro''bly penned by Axelrod, who still gets support from Richard Daly who''s totally being investigated for fraud!
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by nottellin1 April 11, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
How long are we going to continue to allow our policians to rape the public. The US is looking more like Mex every day.
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by nottellin1 April 11, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
How is this Obamas fault? I dont see him listed in this article. And this just shows Hillary Clinton and her family love to milk whatever they can dry. They dont care about the Middle class. Its all about them. They TAKE From the Middle Class and the Lower Class, for their purposes.


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Posted by jenjen27 at 02:23 PM : Apr 11, 2008

Not Obamas fault, but dont look for him to behave any differently if he is ex-prez. Because of his youth, Obama is probably rubbing his hands together expecting how long he will be able to suck at the public ***!
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by obamasgranny April 11, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
It''s not like Michelle Obama got a 200K raise after Barack became a Senator and pushed through some earmark for her "Non profit" hospital,...Wake up people!!
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by mudrose-2009 April 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Obama on small-town PA: Clinging religion, guns, xenophobia
Drudge Report

Mayhill Fowler has more from Obama''''s remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday, and they include an attempt to explain the resentment in small-town Pennsylvania that won''''t be appreciated by some of the people whose votes Obama''''s seeking:

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing''''s replaced them...And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it''''s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren''''t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
That''''s a pretty broad list of things to explain with job loss.

By Ben Smith 03:25 PM

This S.O.B. needs to be censored by the Congress for his blantant Racist, Bigoted Commentaries. There is obviously a lot more cream in this "Oreo".


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by harrist5 April 11, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
Bill Clinton made the following statement at the end of comments about Barack Obama:

"Next we will see him run an ad saying "vote for me I dont steal cars"

Is this a reflection of some sort of racial stereotype that Bill has?

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by harrist5 April 11, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
Are any of Bill Clinton''s office expenses, phone bills etc. (those that are being paid for by taxpayers) actually campaign related? If so, I object as a taxpayer to paying them, and I believe someone should sue to have all such funds returned to the U. S. Govt.
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by nanc12 April 11, 2008 5:09 PM PDT
Rowdy, you''re getting a bit desparate if you are contending that Obama''s campaign is behind this. Did you read the article? "The figures come from congressional reports studying the presidential retirement program and from summaries of annual budget requests by the U.S. General Services Administration, which administers the program."
In the words of that great orator, Bill Clinton, "Chill out!"
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by nanc12 April 11, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
Although I have to admit that if Obama''s campaign is paying Bill Clinton to sabotage his wife''s campaign, what with him reviving the Bosnia "mis-speak", and saying that when you''re 60 and it''s 11 o''clock at night, you forget things, and the stealing cars reference, they are definitely getting their money''s worth!
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by dsproull April 11, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
Bill Clinton got paid the big bucks doing speeches at his NAFTA companies. This is the same man that had the Supreme court and his home state DISBARR him from practicing Law.... Now he''s the Big Cahoo-na blabing his B/S in small towns. Must of got thrown out of the big ones. I can not beleive how short public memory is. This is the same man and woman that originated and passed NAFTA and lied that this was a greatest thing for America!!!! We have lost more jobs in America because of NAFTA than we could even imagine. Now, Hillery doesn''t like it (she held close door meetings) before in total support of NAFTA. The Clinton Fortune now is nothing to what the Great companies are going to pay and pay them for the Anti-American NAFTA .These Two don''t give a *** about the Pee-ons in America and you just think there wonderful. Lets vote them back into office so they can complete the distruction of the American people and their jobs.
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by krenz4 April 11, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
rowdy, i really think something is wrong with folks like you. Mr Obama has run one of the most, stress free, backstabbing free, venom free, well organized and respectful campaign that this country has ever seen. He has limited his attacks to the facts, or retaliation(sp) for those launched against him. He has offered the American people a chance for something different , he has been honest and candid about his feelings about race in this country, and has done exceptionally well in not aligning himself with any group who may consider having him in their pocket. He has stood aside and let Hillarity and bill run their mouths, sling mud, lie and whatever else they do and has not joined in. Yet day after day, these posts come in about his long list of lies. Now you are talking about somebody he knows is a child molester??? Get over it fool, somebody YOU know is also a child molester! But I digress, I do not hold him accountable for the behaviour of the thousands and thousands of people he must know at this point. Stop trying to tear down a decent black man.. You are always saying that there are none.. Well here''s one... and While folks out here are jumping up and down and having fits because there is a black man with a real chance to lead this country he is leading a revolution, face it,this is a chance for racism of ALL colors to be killed off once and for all. Dont fight it.
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by hawksprings April 11, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
Wow.
This just shows Bill Clinton is nothing more than an elitist liberal snob.
Think of all the poor, homeless, and uninsured that money could help.
Instead it goes to support the lifestyle of a womanizing adulterer.
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by dsproull April 11, 2008 5:35 PM PDT
Posted by jenjen27 at 02:25 PM : Apr 11, 2008

IN 1992 THE CLINTONS WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO FIX THINGS

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

IN 2008 LETS SEND THEM BACK TO FINISH THEIR JOB
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I Agree with JenJen, They both have an agenda to complete! Vote Hillery for president. The list above is a small fraction of their abilitys! We just love them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by rowdytexan2 April 11, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
Posted by krenz4 at 05:24 PM : Apr 11, 2008

What kind of krap are you talking about! Obama has lied from day one when he presented his campaign as above politics as usual, when he played dirty politics to get his first senate seat, and he''s played it throughout this campaign when his distortion of people''s words and intents. He''s done nothing but try to tear down his opponent, and has NOTHING to build himself up with, because that''s all he''s GOT! Take off your rose colored glasses and take a look at this man! Put race aside...and look again!

There are lots of minority politicians I''d vote for if you''d put one up for a nomination!

I worked in Barbara Jordan''s campaign in Texas, one of the smartest, most honorable legislators of our time. As well as Sheila Jackson Lee and Henry Cisneros.

When you know who and what the hell you''re talking about you can spout your mouth off! And when you present me with an honorable candidate I''ll vote for him. But Obama NEVER!
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by rowdytexan2 April 11, 2008 6:31 PM PDT
Posted by nanc12 at 05:09 PM : Apr 11, 2008

lol, You chill out! As I said...take a good look at Obama. Go research his politics and his payoffs, and his support of Rezko...

I''m not desperate at all. I''m just fine. But I will speak out against THIS man. I don''t care if he''s a little green man from Mars!
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by truth-hurts April 11, 2008 7:25 PM PDT
Politico reeks of bias
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by kansas1946 April 11, 2008 9:48 PM PDT
Since 2001, Clinton has received more of almost every benefit available to former presidents - from his pension to his staff%u2019s salaries and benefits to supplies. His $420,000 phone bill and $3.2 million office rent tab both nearly surpassed the totals rung up for those purposes by Bush, Carter and the late former presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan combined. As a group, they spent $484,000 on telephone service and $3.8 million on rent in the same span.
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And folks think that Hillary can be trusted with our pocket books??
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by jonesforch April 11, 2008 10:17 PM PDT
Wow that would buy a lot of health care Hillary.
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by karela33 April 12, 2008 5:11 AM PDT
Obama didn''t have anything to do with the Clinton''s spendthrift ways. It''s ironic that the wealthy Clintons are always talking about Obama being elitist. Obama''s the one who started out life with a poor teenage single mom. Bill Clinton''s government paid-for office costs millions of dollars because he chose one in Manhattan. Harry Truman and his Bess nearly went belly up because he wouldn''t become involved in anything that might ever reflect negatively on the office of the presidency. Bill C. obviously doesn''t worry about that when he uses his position as an ex president of the USA to lobby for anything and everything including Columbian free trade deals and Dubai billionaire deals. Hillary wasn''t on another planet. They live together. She likes the money and the power too.
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by lordmi April 12, 2008 1:13 PM PDT
should we donate some more, so Clintons will choke and NEVER show up on OUR Election?

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by watcher269-2009 April 12, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
Taxpayers also fund Daddy Bush''s expenses too! And He''s worth 300 Million!

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by eroosevelt08 April 12, 2008 4:27 PM PDT
You are forgetting that Obama got to go to an elite high school.
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by eroosevelt08 April 12, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
President Clinton and Senator Clinton are generous, very generous, to charities. Also, they don''t need to do anything, and yet they are giving back to their country and their fellow Americans with public service.
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by grshopr1 April 12, 2008 6:34 PM PDT
$420,000 for phone bills? that seems outregeous. Are these 900 numbers? and we do we pay for any of this? they are all worth millions. I find it interesting that clinton uses as much as the other 2 combined and to think his wife thinks she can fix the economy.
Since when did everybody decide to ask what the country and do for them NOT what they could do for their country.
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by jockh April 13, 2008 1:54 PM PDT
Hillarys problem is that voters know how easily the Clintons lie; and that both Hillary and Bill would lie on a stack of bibles.

Misspeaking is one thing, repeating something over and over makes it a FLAT LIE !!
The Clintons simply cannot help themselves; they tell a big lie when a small lie will do. And they tell a small lie when the truth will do. After careful training from Bill, Hillary can lie out of both sides of her mouth at the same time even when there''s no particular reason to.
Lets face it, it takes a bare faced liar to confuse a hug from a little girl in Bosnia with the terror of running from sniper bullets.

If you are inclined to overlook Clinton lies just because Hillary is your favorite for nomination then just look at the trouble the country is in because of the lies of President Bush: one million Iraqis and over 4000 American servicemen dead; that%u2019s right DEAD, all because of lies. So you see, the lies of a President really do matter and God help America if the world famous misspeaking Clintons get elected.
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by jt_lancer April 13, 2008 5:10 PM PDT
When given the chance, politicians of all stripes will freeload off the backs of the taxpaying citizenry at every opportunity.

Remember this when choosing your ''Master'' in November.
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by hp32970c April 13, 2008 9:02 PM PDT
The people in Ohio fell for the "I didn''t approve of NAFTA" *** that Clinton spewed forth from her lying mouth. Now it appears that the "proud" people of Pa are doing the same thing. Oh well.....at least they''re not bitter...sigh.
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by glock4me April 13, 2008 9:05 PM PDT
So the democrats have narrowed it down to Obama (someone who seems anti-American in name and actions) and another Clinton (the evil one this time).

Really!!! You dems must really feel that America will blindly vote for anyone with a "D" beside their name, appearantly out of pure hatred for George Bush. The dems must be missing powerhouses like Mondale and Dukakis this year.
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by cruiser111-2009 April 13, 2008 10:13 PM PDT
When Bill C. And Bush number 1 were pandering for donations for hurricane Katrina relief did either of them donate one dime of their millions to this effort? Just curious. I havn''t heard any reporting of this since their tax returns were released. I did hear that the Clintons donated to their own Clinton foundation which is simply a tax shelter where the rich stockpile cash and are only required to use a small portion of it for charity.
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by cruiser111-2009 April 13, 2008 10:19 PM PDT
Liberals are notorious for ignoring the transgressions of their Politcal elites. They can''t help but stick up for them. Afterall they worked so very hard to put them in office. It is hard to stand up and say I was wrong for supporting a politician who commits crimes and transgressions i guess. It is really so sad. Liberals famous line is "it doesn''t matter because look at what he/she did for this country." As far as Bill''s economic savvy the truth of the matter is this. The economy was on a natural upswing when he took the presidency. He did nothing to regenerate the economy. In fact he is the main cause for the problems we are experiencing now with the passage of NAFTA which Hillary the lying wynch would have us believe she is apposed to!
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by xzonz April 14, 2008 7:22 AM PDT
Bill should have had a very wells et plan to embark on his role as a statesman. he could have ended up being as popular as Mandela

I hope Americans see the flaws in the system and rectify it, making the ex presidents seem more presidential and limiting their allowances by closing the loopholes that allow such outrageous spending

the lobbyists have taken a firm grip on each and every corner of the govt, but its not too late- we can change all of that
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by xzonz April 14, 2008 7:22 AM PDT
Bill should have had a very wells et plan to embark on his role as a statesman. he could have ended up being as popular as Mandela

I hope Americans see the flaws in the system and rectify it, making the ex presidents seem more presidential and limiting their allowances by closing the loopholes that allow such outrageous spending

the lobbyists have taken a firm grip on each and every corner of the govt, but its not too late- we can change all of that by voting for Barack
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