February 11, 2009 3:07 PM

The Kanzius Machine: A Cancer Cure?

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(CBS)  This segment was originally broadcast on April 13, 2008. It was updated on July 16, 2008.

What if we told you that a guy with no background in science or medicine - not even a college degree - has come up with what may be one of the most promising breakthroughs in cancer research in years?

Well it's true, and if you think it sounds improbable, consider this: he did it with his wife's pie pans and hot dogs.

His name is John Kanzius, and as correspondent Lesley Stahl first reported last April, he's a former businessman and radio technician who built a radio wave machine that has cancer researchers so enthusiastic about its potential they're pouring money and effort into testing it out.

Here's the important part: if clinical trials pan out - and there's still a long way to go - the Kanzius machine will zap cancer cells all through your body without the need for drugs or surgery and without side effects. None at all. At least that's the idea.


The last thing John Kanzius thought he'd ever do was try to cure cancer. A former radio and television executive from Pennsylvania, he came to Florida to enjoy his retirement.

"I have no business being in the cancer business. It's not something that a layman like me should be in, it should be left to doctors and research people," he told Stahl.

"But sometimes it takes an outsider," Stahl remarked.

"Sometimes it just - maybe you get lucky," Kanzius replied.

It was the worst kind of luck that gave Kanzius the idea to use radio waves to kill cancer cells: six years ago, he was diagnosed with terminal leukemia and since then has undergone 36 rounds of toxic chemotherapy. But it wasn't his own condition that motivated him, it was looking into the hollow eyes of sick children on the cancer ward at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

"I saw the smiles of youth and saw their spirits were broken. And you could see that they were sort of asking, 'Why can't they do something for me?'" Kanzius told Stahl.

"So they started to haunt you. The children," Stahl asked.
"Their faces. I still remember them holding on their Teddy bears and so forth," he replied. "And shortly after that I started my own chemotherapy, my third round of chemotherapy."

Kanzius told Stahl the chemotherapy made him very sick and that he couldn't sleep at night. "And I said, 'There's gotta be a better way to treat cancer.'"

It was during one of those sleepless nights that the light bulb went off. When he was young, Kanzius was one of those kids who built radios from scratch, so he knew the hidden power of radio waves. Sick from chemo, he got out of bed, went to the kitchen, and started to build a radio wave machine.

"Started looking in the cupboard and I saw pie pans and I said, 'These are perfect. I can modify these,'" he recalled.

His wife Marianne woke up that night to a lot of banging and clamoring. "I was concerned truthfully that he had lost it," she told Stahl.

"She felt sorry for me," Kanzius added.

"I did," Marianne Kanzius acknowledged. "And I had mentioned to him, 'Honey, the doctors can't-you know, find an answer to cancer. How can you think that you can?'"

That's what 60 Minutes wanted to know, so Stahl went to his garage laboratory to find out.

Here's how it works: one box sends radio waves over to the other, creating enough energy to activate gas in a fluorescent light. Kanzius put his hand in the field to demonstrate that radio waves are harmless to humans.

"So right from the beginning you're trying to show that radio waves could activate gas and not harm the human-anything else," Stahl remarked. "'Cause you're looking for some kind of a treatment with no side effects, that's what's in your head."

"No side effects," Kanzius replied.



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by canceriscurable June 16, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
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by saltwaterfan May 23, 2011 12:11 AM EDT
No disputing Rife's genius, but even geniuses can be wrong sometimes (see Einstein). Rife had interesting but unsubstantiated theory on "resonant frequencies" to destroy specific viruses and cancers. His following consisted of a series of Charlatans and conspiracy theorists obviously painting his legacy in a bad light. The only thing in common with Kanzius' idea is radiowaves. Kanzius, though, is using the radiowave simply as an energy source, and focusing that energy with directed metal or nanoparticles to sites of cancer. These are entirely different concepts!
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by petarzito April 27, 2011 8:26 AM EDT
A cura existe, e é mais antiga que o homosapiens: cannabis, marijuana, hemp...

Para o cancro e para a maior parte das doenças, é o remédio mais eficaz e menos nocivo que se conhece.

Estudem história por favor!!!!
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by bonnarj June 18, 2010 8:35 PM EDT
I am a cystic fibrosis researcher (knowledgeable about cancer as well) and computational scientist, and I must say that there will be No cure for ANY genetic disease until we scientists learn how to do compuatations on complex biomolecular systems. No ability to compute, no cures, period. I have made a fundamental discovery how we may do this - we can turn data from the human genome project into cures for diseases like cancer using this technique, but a paradigm shift must occur in the scientific community first. I have an answer, thee answer. YOU may help by visiting my website and educating yourself and by linking to all of my web pages. Doing so will raise social consciousness. I have been working on this technology dawn to dusk for over ten years and any help I can get getting it into the scientific lexicon would be most appreciated. We can get a real cancer cure if we just would change our ways - expand our limited ways of solving problems. Generalists, not specialists, will cure cancer. My website can be found at http://jamesbonnar.freevar.com
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by canceriscurable June 16, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
There's a free book "Cancer is curable!" plus lots of other valuable books and videos on how to cure cancer, please check and share:
http://anti-cancer.weebly.com
by bonnarj June 18, 2010 8:34 PM EDT
I am a cystic fibrosis researcher (knowledgeable about cancer as well) and computational scientist, and I must say that there will be No cure for ANY genetic disease until we scientists learn how to do compuatations on complex biomolecular systems. No ability to compute, no cures, period. I have made a fundamental discovery how we may do this - we can turn data from the human genome project into cures for diseases like cancer using this technique, but a paradigm shift must occur in the scientific community first. I have an answer, thee answer. YOU may help by visiting my website and educating yourself and by linking to all of my web pages. Doing so will raise social consciousness. I have been working on this technology dawn to dusk for over ten years and any help I can get getting it into the scientific lexicon would be most appreciated. We can get a real cancer cure if we just would change our ways - expand our limited ways of solving problems. Generalists, not specialists, will cure cancer.
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by magdog2765 October 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT
Royal Rife developed the same machine in the 1930's only to be discredited. It works on the same premise that radio waves kill organisms, but not with heat, but by destruction of the cell wall. Google Royal Rife and you will see for yourself.
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by jimb3670 December 30, 2010 8:02 AM EST
The above artical failed to mention that he also used a nanopartical solution (made with gold or charcoal) to inject into the body that only adheres to the cancer cells, basically turning them into little antenna's. when zapped with the radio waves, it instantly fries them.
by bruce69almighty October 18, 2009 9:08 PM EDT
I was just concerned about the heating of any trace metals in the body (such as iron, which red blood cells utilize). Maybe I am wrong and that these metals are in such small size that their heating causes no adverse effects. I don't know, I am just throwing this out there.
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by lindawarby October 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT
There has always been a CURE for cancer in other countries for many many years.
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by information_for_you October 7, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
Like countless of other people that have to face reality when dealing with cancer, LASEMEDINC s pitch to a better treatment sounds wonderful and the prices are much less then chemo. Without proper information this can be misleading. After the L.I.E.S.H. treatment was done Dr. Carpenter told my wife she was cancer free. I suppose the conventional methods that told my wife that she was never cancer free is a mistake. I believe that mistakes can be made after all we are all human. But how many mistakes are we entitled to when the service is for life?s sake. In my opinion Dr. Carpenter has lied to my wife and I strongly feel that a nonbiased investigation should be done in order to protect the interest of the public in which LASEMEDINC advertises too. People don?t always agree with how the FDA works but its original intentions were to help protect the public. LASEMEDINC performs an alternative treatment and offers it to the public with the claims that its methods are FDA approved. So is L.I.E.S.H. treatment at LASEMEDINC really FDA approved? To me this treatment is being given like a vitamin supplement and even vitamin supplements can?t claim that it is a cure because they are not FDA approved. So after L.I.E.S.H. treatment is preformed at LASEMEDINC who and what authority gives Dr. Carpenter the right to claim that you are cancer free?
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by bobp64 September 2, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
Upper 5% - not impressed. There are 15 million people in the US in the "upper 5%". I'm in the upper 0.01% and I can tell you that I learn from each and every opportunity that presents itself and that can come from a Nobel Prize winning physicist down to the the most down on their luck person in the world. True intelligence teaches you much more than to be a snob. My degrees are irrelevant, but just to show that I do have a bit of mettle behind me academically I do hold more than one degree from a little technical college in Cambridge, Mass. I too know of some big boastful PhD's who brag that they're "adjunct Professors" - all that means is that they're temporarily hired to teach some classes, they are NOT *real* professors!

Nanotechnology is an up and coming science. Delivering targeted medicine directly to cancer cells has always been one of the hallmark concepts being touted and the methods under discussion here are just one embodiment of applications for nanotechnology that are bandied about quite frequently. I am not at all surprised that such an application is appearing to work. I'm sure there are details to work through and clinical trials to run, but the basic science is fairly sound (and has been for a couple years now).

Nanotechnology will offer us a lot once we truly learn to embrace it. I once saw a group of middle school children that took the (fairly simple but very forward looking) concept of a respirocyte (I'll leave it to the reader to investigate exactly what a respirocyte *will be* once it is developed) and extended it to be a truly remarkable life saving device. With people like this coming of age, I believe there is hope for our society.

There is another cancer drug out there - DCA (dichloroacetate). They're funding clinical trials strictly through donations because it's a drug that can't be patented, drug companies can't make any money from it, and there's a good chance that it could potentially shut down many (not all) of the world's oncology centers. So, not only do big drug companies want to suppress this, doctors, nurses, and even hospital management are afraid of something like this working. Sure, there will always be some cancers that don't react well to DCA, but just think about the financial impact to the hospitals. It would be devastating, especially because I'm sure many of them are still paying on all the high priced machines used in their oncology dept!
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by denniscatlow2 June 7, 2010 11:35 PM EDT
Money has always been and always will be the biggest detrament to the advance of medical science. Todays Medical community for the greatest part (not entirely) is concerned more with amassing wealth than with the healing of man, which is thier original purpose. Has the Hypocratic Oath been all but forgotten? First, do no harm! Not, First make thyself rich.
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