The Kanzius Machine: A Cancer Cure?

Inventor Tells 60 Minutes He Hopes To Live Long Enough To See Machine Cure Humans

(CBS)  This segment was originally broadcast on April 13, 2008. It was updated on July 16, 2008.

What if we told you that a guy with no background in science or medicine - not even a college degree - has come up with what may be one of the most promising breakthroughs in cancer research in years?

Well it's true, and if you think it sounds improbable, consider this: he did it with his wife's pie pans and hot dogs.

His name is John Kanzius, and as correspondent Lesley Stahl first reported last April, he's a former businessman and radio technician who built a radio wave machine that has cancer researchers so enthusiastic about its potential they're pouring money and effort into testing it out.

Here's the important part: if clinical trials pan out - and there's still a long way to go - the Kanzius machine will zap cancer cells all through your body without the need for drugs or surgery and without side effects. None at all. At least that's the idea.

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The last thing John Kanzius thought he'd ever do was try to cure cancer. A former radio and television executive from Pennsylvania, he came to Florida to enjoy his retirement.

"I have no business being in the cancer business. It’s not something that a layman like me should be in, it should be left to doctors and research people," he told Stahl.

"But sometimes it takes an outsider," Stahl remarked.

"Sometimes it just - maybe you get lucky," Kanzius replied.

It was the worst kind of luck that gave Kanzius the idea to use radio waves to kill cancer cells: six years ago, he was diagnosed with terminal leukemia and since then has undergone 36 rounds of toxic chemotherapy. But it wasn't his own condition that motivated him, it was looking into the hollow eyes of sick children on the cancer ward at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

"I saw the smiles of youth and saw their spirits were broken. And you could see that they were sort of asking, 'Why can't they do something for me?'" Kanzius told Stahl.

"So they started to haunt you. The children," Stahl asked.
"Their faces. I still remember them holding on their Teddy bears and so forth," he replied. "And shortly after that I started my own chemotherapy, my third round of chemotherapy."

Kanzius told Stahl the chemotherapy made him very sick and that he couldn't sleep at night. "And I said, 'There’s gotta be a better way to treat cancer.'"

It was during one of those sleepless nights that the light bulb went off. When he was young, Kanzius was one of those kids who built radios from scratch, so he knew the hidden power of radio waves. Sick from chemo, he got out of bed, went to the kitchen, and started to build a radio wave machine.

"Started looking in the cupboard and I saw pie pans and I said, 'These are perfect. I can modify these,'" he recalled.

His wife Marianne woke up that night to a lot of banging and clamoring. "I was concerned truthfully that he had lost it," she told Stahl.

"She felt sorry for me," Kanzius added.

"I did," Marianne Kanzius acknowledged. "And I had mentioned to him, 'Honey, the doctors can't-you know, find an answer to cancer. How can you think that you can?'"

That's what 60 Minutes wanted to know, so Stahl went to his garage laboratory to find out.

Here's how it works: one box sends radio waves over to the other, creating enough energy to activate gas in a fluorescent light. Kanzius put his hand in the field to demonstrate that radio waves are harmless to humans.

"So right from the beginning you're trying to show that radio waves could activate gas and not harm the human-anything else," Stahl remarked. "'Cause you're looking for some kind of a treatment with no side effects, that's what's in your head."

"No side effects," Kanzius replied.

[magdog2765]

Royal Rife developed the same machine in the 1930's only to be discredited. It works on the same premise that radio waves kill organisms, but not with heat, but by destruction of the cell wall. Google Royal Rife and you will see for yourself.

[bruce69almighty]

I was just concerned about the heating of any trace metals in the body (such as iron, which red blood cells utilize). Maybe I am wrong and that these metals are in such small size that their heating causes no adverse effects. I don't know, I am just throwing this out there.

[lindawarby]

There has always been a CURE for cancer in other countries for many many years.

[information_for_you]

Like countless of other people that have to face reality when dealing with cancer, LASEMEDINC s pitch to a better treatment sounds wonderful and the prices are much less then chemo. Without proper information this can be misleading. After the L.I.E.S.H. treatment was done Dr. Carpenter told my wife she was cancer free. I suppose the conventional methods that told my wife that she was never cancer free is a mistake. I believe that mistakes can be made after all we are all human. But how many mistakes are we entitled to when the service is for life?s sake. In my opinion Dr. Carpenter has lied to my wife and I strongly feel that a nonbiased investigation should be done in order to protect the interest of the public in which LASEMEDINC advertises too. People don?t always agree with how the FDA works but its original intentions were to help protect the public. LASEMEDINC performs an alternative treatment and offers it to the public with the claims that its methods are FDA approved. So is L.I.E.S.H. treatment at LASEMEDINC really FDA approved? To me this treatment is being given like a vitamin supplement and even vitamin supplements can?t claim that it is a cure because they are not FDA approved. So after L.I.E.S.H. treatment is preformed at LASEMEDINC who and what authority gives Dr. Carpenter the right to claim that you are cancer free?

[bobp64]

Upper 5% - not impressed. There are 15 million people in the US in the "upper 5%". I'm in the upper 0.01% and I can tell you that I learn from each and every opportunity that presents itself and that can come from a Nobel Prize winning physicist down to the the most down on their luck person in the world. True intelligence teaches you much more than to be a snob. My degrees are irrelevant, but just to show that I do have a bit of mettle behind me academically I do hold more than one degree from a little technical college in Cambridge, Mass. I too know of some big boastful PhD's who brag that they're "adjunct Professors" - all that means is that they're temporarily hired to teach some classes, they are NOT *real* professors!

Nanotechnology is an up and coming science. Delivering targeted medicine directly to cancer cells has always been one of the hallmark concepts being touted and the methods under discussion here are just one embodiment of applications for nanotechnology that are bandied about quite frequently. I am not at all surprised that such an application is appearing to work. I'm sure there are details to work through and clinical trials to run, but the basic science is fairly sound (and has been for a couple years now).

Nanotechnology will offer us a lot once we truly learn to embrace it. I once saw a group of middle school children that took the (fairly simple but very forward looking) concept of a respirocyte (I'll leave it to the reader to investigate exactly what a respirocyte *will be* once it is developed) and extended it to be a truly remarkable life saving device. With people like this coming of age, I believe there is hope for our society.

There is another cancer drug out there - DCA (dichloroacetate). They're funding clinical trials strictly through donations because it's a drug that can't be patented, drug companies can't make any money from it, and there's a good chance that it could potentially shut down many (not all) of the world's oncology centers. So, not only do big drug companies want to suppress this, doctors, nurses, and even hospital management are afraid of something like this working. Sure, there will always be some cancers that don't react well to DCA, but just think about the financial impact to the hospitals. It would be devastating, especially because I'm sure many of them are still paying on all the high priced machines used in their oncology dept!

[robboman48]

Sounds like he is using the technology pioneered by Royal Rife in the early 1930's and continued in practice through the 40's and 50's. This technology was fought by the Rockefeller Foundation and the AMA. They were curing cancer, aids, eye problems and more. Much is available on the subject and the frequency wave technology he built. He was an engineer, not a doctor by trade and also designed a microscope with a 17,000 magnification capability. This guy may have better luck, but watch out for the AMA and the Rockefeller foundation, big money at stake if people are actually cured.

[frankta]

I wonder if this radio machine is similar to the radio therapy, cause i always figured that's what radio therapy does as well. As this article is already over a year old are there any updates?
There is this <a href="http://www.cancer-alternative.org/"> cancer alternative treatment</a>, where they apply <a href="http://www.cancer-alternative.org/gene-therapy-for-cancer/">Gene Therapy for Cancer</a>, together with other treatments like Radio Therapy, Traditional Chinese Medicine and others. My brother is going there soon.

[isabelle33]

I know of another cancer cure. It's the combination of 2 supplements; Quercetin + Vitamin C (ascorbic acid). It works pretty well and is very cheap too. Quercetin is proven to kill cancer cells and can also shrink tumors in animals (rats). These supplements cost only $10 and can be bought from many vitamin stores. You should really try this if you have cancer....

[munpuppy]

Through a series of fortunate coincidences I was early diagnosed with earlystage malignant prostate cancer, had radical surgery scheduled, found alternate treatment, wound up with radio-active needle implantation. That was around eight years ago. PSA tested regularly over the years. Everything fine now without all the trauma of radical surgery. Men should get their PSA tested. Most doctors suggest it. Get a second opinion at local cancer treatment centers.

[EDSISSON]

I am a 40 yr old father of five with a great wife and six weeks ago I was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer. I was lifted after reading and watching the video of John?s great thinking outside the box to cure cancers. I am lucky to be in Pittsburgh being treated and I just wish I could help John make his dream come true. I share his drive. Edward Sisson

[fatcatbryant]

Mr.kanzius i really think it is a great thing that you are doing for other.

[fatcatbryant]

Mr.Kanzius my sister friend mom died the past Thursday of cancer on march 5,2009 and i really don't want any one that is really close to me to die on e so please help people with cancer

[TASHA1632]

Hi i will like to know if this machine is already available for patient , my dad have cancer and i wish,that he gets better please give me all the information or where we have to go to.
Thanks

[alee1965]

Please consider follow up story asap. Many cancer patients and survivors need this information...

Also consider an entire program on cutting edge research on breast cancer. There are exciting new breast therapies being studied , some quite noninvasive. I am a registered nurse who has studied this and would like to share ideas w/a producer. Thank you . Barbara lee

[iwsvinci]

I read the article and was very impressed. I understand how a single cancer tumor. In my wifes case the beam can from 2 systems. First a gold seed was injected into her cancer infected lymph node. The next treatment was 25 sessions of 3D/Conformal Radiation (no damage to other areas around the cancer tumor) and the second procedure and most effective was 5 treatments from the CyberKnife Radiosurgery System and again no damage to other cells. It worked, the cancer cell has been totally killed and elimated. I love to hear the possibility of injecting golden nanoparticles into the body and have them attach to the cancer cells, than zap them with the Kanzius system...It sad when you have to focus on reality and believe the hard core truth about power and control. A few of the comments I read made mention about how this system will never hit the market...I belive it. Unless the medical industry has control, we won''t see it. CyberKnife Radiosurgery unites and very expensive and under the control of medical centers. This treatments cost approximately $15,000.00 each. And in most cases the medical insurance carriers argue that the treatments and still experimental and investigational even though the FDA approved the treatments. They pay but you have to jump through all the hoops and stay focused. Well in closing I wish all the success to Mr. Kanzius, Dr. Curley and all the others working on this reseach project. Thank you, Leonard Vinci

[peekab001]

This sounds much like The Dr. Royal Rife Machine (using vibrational energy). Since the 30''s there have been many books, articles and newspapers published concerning Rife''s Research on Cancer and other diseases. Rife discovered that every virus, bacterium, parasite and other pathogen is particularly sensitive to a specific "frequency" of sound and can be destroyed by intensifying that frequency until it literally explodes - like an intense musical note that can shatter a wine glass!

[kickelhahn]

I have early stage of prostate cancer and this may be a solution for me. It is a slow growing process. Yet I fear that special interest groups may sabotage John Kansius'' experimentation. There is too much at stake here. Surgeons and pharmaceutical companies may not embrace this promising technology because they may not have enough patients all of a sudden.

[FLHT02]

Before anyone gets too excited it would pay to remember that the money is definitely in the treatment and not the cure. What do you want to see, a generalized cure? What would be done with all the Oncologists that prefer the life that they have become accustomed to? What of the hospitals that have invested heavily in the treatment equipment? What of the pharmaceutical companies that have invested billions in treatment compounds? What of the insurance companies that rule the types of treatment? Sure, these will all gladly bow out of the scene if a generalized cure is produced. NOT!! Most likely if the Kanzius system works effectively he will become wealthy and the general population will not realize any benefit. This type of subversion has been going on since the late 1800''s and it is not going to change without a major shift in the persona of the general population.

[natural_help]

This sounds similar to the Rife Frequency Generator of the 1930''s. It probably works, and will probably get black-balled by the medical establishment, as did the Rife machine. If the medical establishment can''t monopolize it and make loads of money they will squash and discredit it.

[nr1broker]

There were 2 segments of the Kanzius reports on the internet. What happened to the find of being able to burn salt water using the same technology? This would be a greater find than the cure for cancer.