HARARE, Zimbabwe, April 5, 2008

Zimbabweans Fear Mugabe's Fight For Power

Armed Guards Prevent Opposition From Entering High Court To Demand Release Of Election Results

  • A youth sells mobile phone airtime as he sits next to electoral campaign posters in the center of Harare, April 5, 2008. The opposition Movement for Democratic Change party appealed for United Nations intervention Saturday to prevent bloodshed in a runoff campaign because it fears Mugabe will use brute force to try to retain power. Photo

    A youth sells mobile phone airtime as he sits next to electoral campaign posters in the center of Harare, April 5, 2008. The opposition Movement for Democratic Change party appealed for United Nations intervention Saturday to prevent bloodshed in a runoff campaign because it fears Mugabe will use brute force to try to retain power.  (AP Photo/Mujahid Safodien)

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(AP)  Zimbabwe's opposition leader says he fears that President Robert Mugabe is preparing a "war against the people" in an attempt to hold on to power.

Movement for Democratic Change leader Morgan Tsvangirai has told a news conference that his party is reluctant to take part in an election runoff because of the growing risks of violence.

Earlier today, armed police prevented opposition lawyers from entering Zimbabwe's High Court to lodge an urgent suit aiming to force the publication of presidential election results.

Opposition lawyer Alec Muchadehama said a senior police officer wearing a ruling ZANU-PF shirt gave the orders, amid increasing signs of a clampdown.

"No one is going to enter. They say they are going to call the riot police," Muchadehama said. Journalists waiting outside the court also were ordered to disperse.

The Movement for Democratic Change wanted the High Court to force the electoral commission to publish results of the March 29 presidential election.

The opposition will mount a new bid in the High Court on Sunday for the election results to be published.

Official results for the parliamentary elections showed the ruling party lost its majority in the 110-seat parliament. Independent observers projected that MDC candidate Tsvangirai won most of the votes cast in the presidential contest but not enough for an outright victory over longtime ruler Robert Mugabe.

The ruling ZANU-PF party announced Friday it was endorsing Mugabe, whose 28-year rule led Zimbabwe from liberation to ruin, in a runoff election.

Earlier, the opposition asked the United Nations to intervene during the runoff campaign over fears that Mugabe, 84, may stage a violent crackdown to retain power.
London's Guardian newspaper reported that Mugabe's aides said he is prepared to give up power in return for immunity from prosecution for past crimes, but that if opposition leaders do not agree, then Mugabe may declare emergency rule.
Nelson Chamisa, spokesman for the opposition, pointed to signs of a coming clampdown, including a march in Harare by war veterans loyal to Mugabe who have beat up opponents in the past, a raid on opposition party offices and the detention of foreign journalists by armed police in full riot gear.

"They are trying to intimidate people, they are trying to set up the context for unleashing violence. The vampire instincts of this regime are definitely going to come out," Chamisa charged.

Zimbabwe needs the assistance of the international community, he said.

"The U.N. has to make sure that there is no violence in this country. ... They should not (wait to) come when there is blood in the street, blood in the villages."

But South African President Thabo Mbeki said Saturday that international intervention is not needed.

"I think it is time to wait. Let's see the outcome of the election results. If there is a re-run of the presidential election let us see what comes out of that," Mbeki said.

Mugabe has ruled since his guerrilla army helped bring about an independent Zimbabwe in 1980. His popularity has been battered by an economic slide that followed the often-violent seizures of white-owned commercial farms since 2000. A third of the population has fled the country, 80 percent of those who remain are jobless and inflation is more than 100,000 percent.

Chamisa said he expected the court to answer its petition for the election results immediately in Saturday morning's hearing, but he was not hopeful of the outcome.

Zimbabwe's courts are stacked with Mugabe sympathizers who have delayed hearing opposition challenges to results of 2002 and 2005 elections that international observers said were marked by fraud and intimidation.

The U.S. and other Western nations also have been pressing for the presidential results to be announced.

The law requires a runoff within 21 days of the first elections. But diplomats in Harare and at the United Nations said Mugabe was planning to declare a 90-day delay to give security forces time to clamp down.

An African Union election observer team found no evidence of fraud during voting last weekend, according to the delegation's leader, former Sierra Leone president Ahmed Tejan Kabbah.

Kabbah praised Mugabe as "a patriot," and said during a meeting Thursday that the Zimbabwe leader was "relaxed" despite his setback at the polls.

New York Times journalist Barry Bearak was among those detained Thursday by heavily armed riot police who surrounded and entered a Harare hotel frequented by foreign reporters, lawyers said. The U.S.-based National Democratic Institute said one of its staff, American Dileepan Sivapathasundaram, was detained at Harare's airport as he tried to leave the country Thursday.

The government had rejected most foreign journalists' applications to cover the elections and had barred Western election observers.

Lawyer Beatrice Mtetwa said the attorney general decided there was no case against the two Americans and a third person who was not identified. However, police decided to hold them. It was not clear whether new charges would be filed.

State Department Tom Casey said four Americans were detained Thursday, but two had been released and were leaving the country. He told reporters Friday that U.S. officials had been in contact with the two Americans still in custody.

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by keithle1 April 5, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
Once these SOB dictators get a taste of power, they refuse to give it up. Even when they''re 84 years old.
Blow the *** up or shoot him.

"A third of the population has fled the country, 80% of those who remain are jobless and inflation is more than 100,000%."

Can you imagine living in a country like that?
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by krotec54 April 5, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
From Breadbasket of Africa, to Wastebasket of the World and it only took twenty years to set it back 200 years into the past.
We need more leaders like Mugabe to show the world that Africans%u2019 can lead a "harmonized." nation.

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by sharncedar April 5, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
Thabo Mbeki is a digusting, perverted agent of evil. He is responsible for the deaths in Zimbabwe as much as is his henchman Mugabe. Mbeki is soaked in the blood of the innocent Zibabweans, and we need to stop white-washing him and have him arrested and deposed from his dicatorship over South Africa.
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by milesbrown49 April 5, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
Mugabe is no monster and there is no blood on his hands. Name one person killed under Mugabe. Liars Liars Liars and blasphemous haters. The white minority should just leave!!!
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by keithle1 April 5, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
milesbrown49 is the funniest comedian working in showbiz tomorrow. Maybe he also works as Mugabe''s chauffeur or shoe shine boy & is worried about losing his job.

Correct me if I''m wrong. Most of the people who have left Zimbabwe are black not white.

So you have no problems with the way Mugabe has run Zimbabwe since he took over in 1980? The black population would not say he''s a "monster"? Everyone is happy with Mugabe? He has done a lot of good things for the people? He cares about their health, safety & welfare? Mugabe can''t sleep at night because he is so worried about the current state of Zimbabwe.

Enlighten me, oh wise one. Give me a list of his achievements.

I''m waiting, milesbrown49...

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by Latrocinor April 5, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
Mugabe is no monster and there is no blood on his hands. Name one person killed under Mugabe. Liars Liars Liars and blasphemous haters. The white minority should just leave!!!

Posted by milesbrown49 at 04:23 PM : Apr 05, 2008
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"A third of the population has fled the country, 80% of those who remain are jobless and inflation is more than 100,000%."
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by jazz_jeff2 April 5, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
Holding Americans as hostages in jail cells just because they were reporting the truth. America has gone to war for less recently. Why not start bombing this nutcase???
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by wonderyman-2009 April 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
Heard an evicted white farmer say "Anyone who can weld two pieces of iron together - has left the country"....
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by bgwinnett April 5, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
"A third of the population has fled the country, 80% of those who remain are jobless and inflation is more than 100,000%."

Posted by bhoogren at 05:26 PM : Apr 05, 2008

Yeah, inflation''s got so bad that their planning to print a Gazillion Zimbabwean Dollar note!!!
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by sgtrds April 5, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
Mugabe is the new Idi Amin, excpet worse.
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by apprxam April 6, 2008 4:33 AM EDT
Mugabe was ready to go peacably but the Praetorian Guards don''t wanna give power or the land they grabbed. I guess they''ll need to keep their day jobs based on how much food this country no longer produce, they ain''t farmers.

Once South Africa get tired of the border incursions, black marketeering and outside pressure to speak up about conditions the people are suffering, revolt will ensue. Wonder if the Chinese agri-laborers the government hired to cultivate the fallow lands will be drafted and forced to resist hungry, angry citizens of Zimbabwe, drawing China into, finally, taking a position of moral subtance, now that Africa is in their sphere-of-influence. (maybe better than USSR and the West?)
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by apprxam April 6, 2008 4:47 AM EDT
Mbeki will be out of office by the end of the year, unless he can indict the ANC members that voted him out of its leadership chair. Mugabi and his elite cadre is mostly at fault. South Africa''s nuevo riche black polygarch & Mbeki are too busy ignoring the poor, catering to the U.S. & Britain business interest and assuring Afrikaners their fate will be different than that of Rhodesian brethren.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 6, 2008 6:17 AM EDT
"London''s Guardian newspaper reported that Mugabe''s aides said he is prepared to give up power in return for immunity from prosecution for past crimes, but that if opposition leaders do not agree, then Mugabe may declare emergency rule."

He should have used Bush''s tactic, bribe, or threaten some key politicians, and re-interpret the law to declare himself immune to prosecution, and make ex post facto laws to clear past crimes by his cronies.

Then he should endorse a loyal puppet lap dog to replace him, then the US would have no right to comment.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 6, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
Posted by bluestardad

I have yet to hear of a benevolent government being toppled by it''s own people.

If the "White" ruling class was doing good for the people if Zimbabwe, they would not have been ousted.

Same for Mugabe.

This has nothing to do with ethnicity.
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by Latrocinor April 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
THANK YOU AMERICA AND BRITON FOR GIVING THE WORLD MUGABE.
WHO KILLED THOUSANDS OF WHITE FARMERS AND GAVE THEIR LAND TO BLACKS IN THE NAME OF CIVIL RIGHTS MAJORITY RULE!

Posted by bluestardad at 07:20 AM : Apr 06, 2008
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You are quite welcome! :)
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by Latrocinor April 6, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
Mugabe is the new Idi Amin, excpet worse.

Posted by SgtRDS at 08:49 PM : Apr 05, 2008
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Not even close!!! LMAO. You know very little about Idi Amin and the piles of bones he left behind. He and Pol Pot were spiritual brothers and make Mugabe look like Mother Teresa.
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by Latrocinor April 6, 2008 2:45 PM EDT

Yeah, inflation''''s got so bad that their planning to print a Gazillion Zimbabwean Dollar note!!!

Posted by bgwinnett at 08:10 PM : Apr 05, 2008
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Yup. That and a American quarter will get them a dime cup of coffee.
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by bgwinnett April 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
Mugabe is the new Idi Amin, excpet worse.

Na he''s just a crook.
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by bgwinnett April 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
Yup. That and a American quarter will get them a dime cup of coffee.

Posted by bhoogren at 11:45 AM : Apr 06, 2008

Probably buy mansion in Harare and the Dollar''s no great shakes at the moment.
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by sharncedar April 6, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
If the "White" ruling class was doing good for the people if Zimbabwe, they would not have been ousted.

Posted by brianbwb at 09:02 AM : Apr 06, 2008

Not necessarily, Africans indulge in racism whether or not its good for them. African countries are the most genocidal, most racist places on earth, the entire culture is bound up in an ugly racial view of the world in which my tribe kills your tribe for no good reason, other than primal racial hatred and rivalry. Look at that sick freak Thabo Mbeke and how he supports Mugabe even as it hurts South Africa''s economy and brings ruin on South Africa - but his hatred of those who are of a different skin color or "tribe" in this case the whites makes him love and defend Mugabe no matter what he does.

This is the tradgedy of Africa, this inability to see past racism and petty hatreds. This is why they created slavery in those countries (though the Eurpopean colonists unfortunately allowed slavery to be exported to them) and why they are in poverty today. Because it turns out that diversity and tolerance are very good things, they lead to prosperity and general well-being.

We can only hope someday Africa and African people outgrow their narrow "racial" view of the world, and learn to tolerate, accept, and work with people of all different backgrounds.
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by sgtrds April 6, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
Not even close!!! LMAO. You know very little about Idi Amin and the piles of bones he left behind. He and Pol Pot were spiritual brothers and make Mugabe look like Mother Teresa.

Posted by bhoogren at 11:44 AM : Apr 06, 2008

I know quite a bit about Idi Amin, but you have forgotten that Mugabe is just getting started.
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by wonderyman-2009 April 6, 2008 11:58 PM EDT
By now Churchill would have intervened with SAS special forces and Mugabe would be behind bars awaiting trial.

Gordon Brown however is too busy kindling the Olympic flame in London to care sh*t about the former colony.
France seems better adapted at keeping the peace in former colonies.

Trouble in Chad - and the Foreign Legion are activated.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 7, 2008 3:53 AM EDT
"We can only hope someday Africa and African people outgrow their narrow "racial" view of the world, and learn to tolerate, accept, and work with people of all different backgrounds." Posted by SharnCedar

It would help if the rest of the world could lose their "racial" view of Africa, seeing them only as slave labor, whose blood and land is to be exploited for the profit of the rest of the world, and to the detriment of the people.

De Beers is a prime example, diamonds from Africa have made them obscenely rich, but the people taking them from the ground remain very poor. Why is it that the high price paid for diamonds is only paid to a Eutopean?

Yeah I know, I ask for too much at this time.
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by brianbwb-2009 April 7, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
European. Sorry for the typo. Good coffee here.
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 4:42 AM EDT
Kkeithie1 said: So you have no problems with the way Mugabe has run Zimbabwe since he took over in 1980? The black population would not say he''''s a "monster"? Everyone is happy with Mugabe? He has done a lot of good things for the people? He cares about their health, safety & welfare? Mugabe can''''t sleep at night because he is so worried about the current state of Zimbabwe.

Enlighten me, oh wise one. Give me a list of his achievements.

I''''m waiting, milesbrown49...

Mugabe took back the land stolen from the Africans and is in the mist of ridding the oppressive rule of the white majority. We all know it will be hard and tough times. Look at the great depression in America and how great it is today. No one blamed the president for it. Did you think that it would be easy to rid the country of the haunting of many years. The land was farmed by Africans before the colonist came and will be farmed after. The one last thing Mugabe must do is to rid Zimbabwe of all of the colonist as they are causing problems and interupting the healing of the Africans. Go back to Europe for gods sake!!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 4:45 AM EDT
To SharnCedar: Why is it that every time someone does not see eye to eye with your people, they are sick freaks and monsters. Thats what you call munipulitive. Give me a break!!! Go back to Europe Please and leave the Africans and their rich resources alone.
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 4:48 AM EDT
You people bring meaning to the term "parisitic race"!!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 4:49 AM EDT
SgtRDS: You people are the only monsters!! Get out!!!
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by krotec54 April 7, 2008 5:28 AM EDT

If Africans farmed the land before the colonist came, why are the farms not producing any crops after twenty years? And if Africa has so much rich resources, why are we sending money for AIDS to them?

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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 6:11 AM EDT
To krotec54: How dare you even ask a dumb question like that! You know that those farms was striped from their ancestors, who then could not pass down the trade. They have to relearn the trade. Where did AIDS come from??? The doctors and nurses who got caught giving it to the children Lybia tell most of the story!!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 6:20 AM EDT
To krotec54: Also, Mugabe''s redistribution of land did not go into effect until 2000. What 20 years. You people lie, lie, lie!!!
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by ekperi-2009 April 7, 2008 7:51 AM EDT
The crises in Zimbabwe is not just about race. As an African I supported the liberation struggle and Iam proud of what Mugabe, Nkomo and the others achieved. I also have not problem with the land redistribution scheme though it could be better handled.However the Zimbabwe economy is in shambles, Mugabe has been in power for 28 years and does not seem to have the ability to handle the issues. If we all ignore the normal self serving attitude of the western world (US and UK especially), most objective observers will agree that it is time for Mugabe to step down and allow better hands to restore the nation.
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by shirk3-2009 April 7, 2008 9:27 AM EDT
Mugabe''s land redistribution was simply that he stole the land from the white farmers and gave it to his cronies.

None of the "Africans" on this forum care that these are still stolen lands, so long as it''s stolen from white people.
The minute that you bring up that the farms that were once productive are now unproductive, all you get is a chorus of "we need more time, help us help us", and other annoying excuses.Mugabe and his henchmen should have thought of that before the re distribution, but it''s easier to blame whitey, right?

I also love the fact that neither this channel, nor CNN bother to run the story that happened on Sunday, where Mugabes people "took back" (as if it were ever theirs in the first place) more white owned farms.

Look for a)more African blood to be spilled folowed by another round of b) starvation.
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by ekperi-2009 April 7, 2008 11:52 AM EDT
The issue of land ownership is central to Zimbabwe''s independence and say what you may a situation where less than 10% of the population "own" over 90% of the land was absolutely unacceptable. Though the brutality and the haphazard manner that occasioned the takeover by Mugabe is not defensible but it will be crazy to return the lands to white owners whether or not Mugabe retains power. The issue at hand now is that the people of Zimbabwe have indicated a desire to have another person to replace Mugabe. He should honour the outcome of the elections and go peacefully. This does not imply that the new man will be a stooge of the US and the UK.
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by shirk3-2009 April 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
The issue of land ownership is central to Zimbabwe''''s independence and say what you may a situation where less than 10% of the population "own" over 90% of the land was absolutely unacceptable.

No. Starvation is unacceptable.
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
shirk3: How could you even utter such words as stole the land from white farmers. You people steal, steal, steal and lie, lie, lie all day. The decision to redistribute the land was based of the original and unlawful theft of the land by the white farmers. How do you steal your stolen property? Get out of Africa and go back to Europe!!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT
Ekperi: I can understand your comment and wonder only wonder if the MDC is that option to Mugabe. I too believe that Mugabe is sincere and had carried Zimbabwe through its legal and moral crises with the white minority, but is not equiped to carry Zimbabwe through its financial and construtive crisis. The problem at hand is that it is rare to find someone strong enough to resist the lure of those who have some sort of eminiate need to control Africa''s rich resources. The history of Africa has shown that every time a man arises with that strength and sincerity, those evil forces strikes at him hard and criminalizes him. It has been amazing to me how monsters are able to portray a good man evil while makeing themselves look righteous. I feel suspect of the MDC because I sat right hear and watched them try to insight trouble in Zimbabwe. I saw them enlist the ways of the evil ones and recongnized it. I do not think this is the correct replacment for Mugabe, but I do know there has to be change!!
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by louiville2 April 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
Robert Mugabe quotes, kind of says it all. He sure talks out of both sides of his face.

"We are not hungry... Why foist this food upon us? We don''t want to be choked. We have enough."

"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people''s votes and the people''s guns are always inseparable twins."

"It may be necessary to use methods other than constitutional ones."

"The only white man you can trust is a dead white man."

"I wish to assure you that there can never be any return to the state of armed conflict which existed before our commitment to peace and the democratic process of election under the Lancaster House agreement."
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by louiville2 April 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
This is what Mugabe agreed to under the Lanchaster House Agreement. Just another sign he can''t be trusted.


In concluding this agreement and signing this report the parties undertook:

to accept the authority of the Governor;
to abide by the Independence Constitution;
to comply with the pre-independence arrangements;
to abide by the cease-fire agreement;
to campaign peacefully and without intimidation;
to renounce the use of force for political ends;
to accept the outcome of the elections and instruct any forces under their authority to do the same.
Under the Independence Constitution, 20% of seats in the country''s parliament were reserved for whites.

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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
louiville2: You said "Under the Independence Constitution, 20% of seats in the country''''s parliament were reserved for whites."

The whites are only less than 10% of the population, in America blacks are near 15% of the population, lets reserve 30% of the Senate seats for them!!

The white people of Zimbabwe are arogant idiots. They deserve complete exile. Go back to Europe!!!!
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by louiville2 April 7, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
milesbrown49

And you are where? Go on back to Africa you and Charles Taylor, Joshua Blahyi should have alot in common.
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by louiville2 April 7, 2008 5:18 PM EDT
Isn''t it amazing the you obviously know little of the history of Southern Africa. Since you have previously post that Africa is the birth of civilization sounds to me that the white man is just coming home.
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by louiville2 April 7, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
I%u2019ll bet the %u201CBattle of Blood River%u201D in 1838 really boils you%u2019re blood when %u201C10,000-20,000%u201D Zulu attacked 470 White %u201CTrekkers%u201D. The Zulu, 3,000 men died many more casualties to 3 wounded white Trekkers, and the rest is history.
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
louiville2: And both Charles Taylor and Joshua Blahyi are probably better company without you as well. I''ll take it!! Go home!!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
louiville2: There you go lying again. I never said South Africa was the birth of anything, however, I can belive the likes of you was banished out from Africa and "Enroped" in "Europe" many years ago and told the world was flat so don''t come back. I used to think that was a lot of racist gargage, but I can believe it now!!
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by milesbrown49 April 7, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
No, its the Xhosea story in South Africa. That hurts the most. The story of the American Slave Trade is a good one too. But then there''s the horror stories of the Native Americans there too. No louiville2, I know very well of your madness, and that''s why I say back in the ropes!!!
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by louiville2 April 8, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
So milesbrown you''re into "human sacrifices which "included the killing of an innocent child and plucking out the heart, which was divided into pieces for us to eat." of Joshua Blahyi type who bragged killing 20,000 people or Charles Taylor who told his followers to eat the people they murdered.
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by louiville2 April 8, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
By the way milebrown49 I''m about half Native American and we don''t wallow in self pity like you. Thats what you get for making assumptions.
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by louiville2 April 8, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
Milebrown49 you mean the Xhosea who allowed the Dutch to establish a trading/way station port then when the Xhosea became jealous of the Dutch attached the Dutch who bravely defended themselves. The Xhosea lost and the Dutch took more land which caused the Xhosea to attack which caused the Xhosea to lose which caused the Dutch to take more land. Which caused the Xhosea to attack which caused the Xhosea to lose which caused the Dutch to take more land. Which caused the Xhosea to attack which caused the Xhosea to lose which caused the Dutch to take more land. Which caused the Xhosea to attack which caused the Xhosea to lose which caused the Dutch to take more land. Nine times, you would think they would have given up earlier W.C. Field said %u201CIf at first you don%u2019t succeed try, try, again then give up no sense being a fool about it%u201D. Then the Xhosea turned to believing a prophecy from a 16 year old who claimed that if they killed their own cattle and burned their own grain that the whites would be blown into the ocean and their cattle would be replaced by new better ones. That stupidity cost about 80,000 lives from famine and guess who came in to provide food etc... them evil white people.

I''m sure the Zulu killed more people then the whites ever thought of.

Kind of see Darwin at work here? The whites were always out numbered.

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by louiville2 April 8, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
And by the way, according to a 1860 census 98.5% of whites at the height of slavery did NOT own slaves. Conversely in the south 28% of free blacks owned slaves so when given a chance BLACK%u2019S were by far the largest slaves owners. But hey why let facts get in the way of a good story. So miles Brown get a life.
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