Clinton Would Extend Same-Sex Benefits
Democrat Says She'd Also Eliminate Husband's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Policy
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Clinton said states such as New Jersey and Massachusetts are extending rights to gay couples "and the federal government should recognize that and should extend the same access to federal benefits across the board. I will very much work to achieve that."
Clinton's comments came in an interview with the Philadelphia Gay News that was posted on its Web site Thursday.
Clinton said she and her husband have many gay friends that they socialize with when they get the chance. "I've got friends, literally, around the country that I'm close to. It's part of my life," she said.
She said that when they ask her why they can't get married, she tells them marriage is a state law. She said that fact helped defeat a constitutional amendment to prohibit same-sex weddings that she said would "enshrine discrimination in the Constitution."
"States are really beginning seriously to deal with the whole range of options, including marriage, both under their own state constitutions and under the legislative approach," she said. "I anticipate that there will be a very concerted amount of effort in the next couple of years that will move this important issue forward and different states will take different approaches as they did with marriage over many years and you will see an evolution over time."
Clinton said she opposes a measure that would ban gay marriage in Pennsylvania.
"I would be very distressed if Pennsylvania were to adopt that kind of mean-spirited referendum and I hope it won't happen," she said.
Clinton's Democratic rival Barack Obama and Republican John McCain declined the newspaper's invitation for an interview. The paper criticized Obama and highlighted his refusal to talk by leaving a blank space on the front page where his interview would have appeared.
Clinton also said she would:
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See all 115 CommentsShows you how much she thinks of her own marriage - just some dusty piece of paper that she and Bubba signed years ago and that some bureaucrat then stamped and filed. Such a romantic...
I wonder if Hill would be interested in supporting S&M celebrations or maybe help organize bondage rallies. Every sexual kink and fetish could have its public display with Hillary proudly carrying its banner. Or we could instead return to some sense of decorum and not have everyone''s sexuality constantly {ahem} shoved down our throats (the last bit was in recognition of Bubba''s contributions to this effort).
"It''s part of my life," she said. Now think about that. It would vindicate Bill and Monica wouldn''t it.
But leave it to the lefties. If there''s a way to give our institutions away as entitlement programs, they will find it.
Democrat Says She''d Also Eliminate Husband''s "Don''t Ask, Don''t Tell" Policy
For someone running on the platform "Bill''s experience is my experience", she sure does discredit his policies an awful lot.
Once again proving how transparent she is - how can anyone continue to support her?
Posted by mudrose at 11:22 AM : Apr 04, 2008
Are you referring to the "holy matrimony" of marriage? Do you know that 73% of ALL marriages end in divorce after 7 years?
How "holy" and "sanctimonious" is an institution with a failure record like that?
Neocon Fascist Nazis would, apparently, want their butts defended by "straight" men and women who enjoy torturing suspected "terrrrrrrorists", killing innocent civilians, and raping their fellow soldiers on base with no fear of prosecution.
To the limited IQ of the average neocon Fascist Nazi, ***, because of who they are and their "wrapped" thinking, cannot take orders, drive a tank, fly a plane, or shot a gun let alone load it!
I wonder how many neocon Fascist Nazis have even put on a uniform or shown even a desire to serve their country by even reporting for jury duty?
SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!
sig heil, (more of the same) McCain!!!
How "holy" and "sanctimonious" is an institution with a failure record like that?
Posted by hungry1968 at 11:42 AM : Apr 04, 2008
Where did you find that 73% figure? The true divorce rate is somewhere in the 40-50% range. And I offer proof:
http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html
Of course; she''s gay
sig heil, (more of the same) McCain!!!
Posted by walt1944 at 11:59 AM : Apr 04, 2008
As amusing as I find all this Seig Heil stuff, if you truly lived in a fascist country and verbally attacked the leader in print like you do, you''d be freezing your tail off in a gulag right now instead of still typing at your computer.
To compare the U.S. government to real fascists like the Nazis or Pinochet''s Chile, for example, trivializes what true victims of fascists had to endure.
Posted by ccfsdca
Yes, because she''s gonna win on a Gay Mandate Platform. Because the rest of the country is just gonna roll over and accommodate her mandates as if she is gonna get elected. Oh, and the Schwarze Kennedy doesn''t believe in "Gay" nups.
Say bye, bye, sick puppy.
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Posted by JACK3213 at 12:19 PM : Apr 04, 2008
Your post is pitiful and nonsensical. If there is nothing wrong with same *** benefits, then obviously there is nothing wrong with her answering a question pertaining to same *** benefits. You are obviously opposed to anything and everything about Clinton, so any excuse to complain about Clinton will do for you. No thought required.
I think the thing everyone worries about is that the Bush Admin has set up the framework to transform America into the kind of place where any dissention does lead to that kind of treatment.
Everything is building towards a tipping point.
What happens once that line gets crossed?
Posted by maxify55
Yea, the problem is "union". Where, how?
Posted by rational_1 at 11:16 AM : Apr 04, 2008"
Technically and legally yes, that''s exactly what marriage is, purely contractual as far as the state is concerned. You can have whatever marriage ceremony you want or none at all, but your marriage is not legally binding until you sign the state authorized license...that dusty old piece of paper.
Posted by mudrose at 12:55 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
And that''s any of your concern how? No one judges the questionable act that must occur in your bedroom.
SIG HEIL, BUSH!!! Sig heil, (more of the same) McCain!!! Posted by walt1944
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Here we go again. Grandpa Walt is off his meds and is better than anyone else.
Posted by maxify55 at 12:51 PM : Apr 04, 2008
If you don''t like them, then don''t get involved in one. See how easy that is?
Now if only you prejudiced people could just learn to keep your comments to yourself regarding issues that don''t concern you, we''ll all be better off.
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I guess it is OK to be a sexist pig, but not to be a racist? Huh, sounds rather hypocritical to me.
Posted by hungry1968 at 01:07 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Amen brother!
Must be all the women with the Donald Trump hairdos that show up at her speech''s.
The Dems are making it easy for us to win Big John. You stick to the real issues and no problem,,
Posted by blackwater66 at 01:23 PM : Apr 04, 2008
Can you sing that to the tune of, "Bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran"?
After all - isn''t needless death and destruction considered "morally superior"?
And you called g`a`y''s sicko''s!!!!
Posted by blackwater66 at 01:23 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Yea, cause constitutional amendments against a minority population is such moral high ground. Gotta love the party of bigots, at least you always know where they stand.
Posted by blackwater66 at 01:23 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Yea, cause constitutional amendments against a minority population is such moral high ground. Gotta love the party of bigots, at least you always know where they stand.
Posted by taddles
Yea, it''s highly moral. Homosexuality is an aberration and breads disease and dimentia. It''s bad enough progressives like Vermont wanna keep our kids literally dumbed down and sexed up with children under 16 years old have STDs. We don''t need them experimenting where they can get AIDS/HIV - ya know that disease that Rev. Wright says "we typical white people" gave to blacks.
Posted by mudrose at 01:34 PM : Apr 04, 2008
The last time that you caught a cold, did you "bleed" yourself?
Or did you attach leeches to your forehead?
Do you still take the "Conestoga" to the corner store?
Or did you attach leeches to your forehead?
Do you still take the "Conestoga" to the corner store?
Posted by hungry1968
I took Echinacea - and stayed away from faires.
Posted by rational_1 at 11:16 AM : Apr 04, 2008"
Technically and legally yes, that''''s exactly what marriage is, purely contractual as far as the state is concerned. You can have whatever marriage ceremony you want or none at all, but your marriage is not legally binding until you sign the state authorized license...that dusty old piece of paper.
Posted by taddles at 01:02 PM : Apr 04, 2008
That was my point entirely. Clinton seems to treat marriage like she would any business contract between any two people. She doesn''t appear to think it is in any way special or deserving of greater societal respect and care than say signing a contract for phone or cable service. I don''t agree with her.
The thing is you all have no idea about her marriage and it''s none of your business. You''d go totally postal if someone asked you why you stay with your wife or husband.
Many non-political married couples stay together for financial reasons. It''s not like it''s not done all over America.
The thing is you all have no idea about her marriage and it''''s none of your business. You''''d go totally postal if someone asked you why you stay with your wife or husband.
Many non-political married couples stay together for financial reasons. It''''s not like it''''s not done all over America.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 02:26 PM : Apr 04, 2008
Hey, she''s the one who brought up this marriage stuff, not me - I just responded. So, based on what she''s said she''s either describing her marriage or her belief in what our (the plebes) marriages are like. In her opinion it''s a ''state'' thing, which implies it''s just a contract. Like I said I don''t agree with her and think that that attitude cheapens and diminishes marriage.
As for people getting or staying ''married'' for whatever petty reasons (political, financial or otherwise), it''s debatable if they''re really married. Sure, on paper (whoop de doo), but really married, as in this is the person I can''t live without and with whom I will spend the rest of my life? Naw. I suspect Hill now has a paper marriage and think it''s a distinct possibility Bubba will be packing his bags once Hillary loses her shot at the Presidency. Again, just my opinion...
Posted by mudrose at 01:34 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Are you retarded??? Dimentia??? What ignorant moron told you that piece of idiot trash? Mud you are a f**king moron that''s all there is to it, you''re too d4m stupid to live. Dimentia?!?....you''re f**king pathetic.
Posted by rational_1 at 02:19 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Regardless of whether you agree, the fact is that, to the state, marriage is simply a legal contract and nothing more. If you want to add ceremonial significance of your choosing to it that''s your business and not the states.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 02:26 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
D4m it! just when I thought I had you pegged you go and post something sensible like that...STOP IT!
Pfffffffft, ROFL!
Any marriage you have is just a piece of paper!
The committment to it for whatever reason lies with the person who stays in it!
When you support civil rights, you have to support civil rights for EVERYONE! If you don''t support civil rights for everyone, then you don''t support civil rights at all!
Posted by rational_1 at 02:19 PM : Apr 04, 2008"
Regardless of whether you agree, the fact is that, to the state, marriage is simply a legal contract and nothing more. If you want to add ceremonial significance of your choosing to it that''''s your business and not the states.
Posted by taddles at 02:47 PM : Apr 04, 2008
You''re quite right, from a bureaucratic, legalistic point of view - and if you think that''s all a marriage is, then great for you. I do happen to think a marriage contract is different from, say, a sales contract and don''t particularly care that the state or Hillary disagrees. In my opinion (and that''s what we are expressing on these boards right?) Hillary''s concept of marriage as some sort of state contract cheapens it. Hillary could pass some sort of law stating a goat can marry a chicken and she (and maybe you) might believe that''s a marriage, but I wouldn''t.
Why do you think Laura Bush stays married to Dubya! When she goes out on the balcony to smoke her cigarette at night, she pro''bly sends up a prayer to God asking him to forgive Dubya for his lies!
Talk about a political marriage! She was chosen for him when Poppa Bush decided to try to clean him up and sell him off as the stoolie for the Neocons!
Look at Eleanor Roosevelt, one of the other most important first ladies of the Century. She stayed with that old goat when he stashed his woman right out in the gardenhouse!
People stay in marriages for all kinds of different reasons. It''s their business, nobody elses!
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