Man Is Six-Months Pregnant

Transgendered Male, 34, Still Has Female Reproductive Organs; Was Artificially Inseminated

(CBS)  Thomas Beatie and his wife, Nancy, are expecting their first child in early July.

But this is no ordinary pregnancy.

The child is being carried by -- the 34-year-old Bend, Ore. MAN.

People magazine did a photo shoot with the couple, and People Senior Editor Patrick Rogers filled in Early Showviewers Thursday.

Rogers admits, "This is a story that takes a little getting used to."

Beatie looks like a man.

But, as Rogers explained, Beatie "started his life as a woman, and transitioned (a decade ago), became legally a man. He still has his female reproductive organs, and now, he's pregnant, six-months pregnant."

Beatie is a transgenedered male. He had his breasts reconstructed.

Rogers says Beatie was born a woman but "says that he has felt that he was a man since birth, since childhood. His wife, however, had a hysterectomy. So, she's unable to carry a child for the couple.

"They decided they want to have a baby. They can use artificial insemination for Thomas to get pregnant. So he just decided, 'Why don't I do it?' They could have hired a surrogate. He could have provided the egg that could have been fertilized and gone to a surrogate. But he just said ... 'Why would I hire a surrogate when I could do it myself? Who's going to take better care of our child than myself?' "

The couple taped an interview with Oprah Winfrey for a show airing Thursday and, in excerpts on the show's Web site, Beatie says, "I'm a person and I have the right to have my own
biological child."

Beatie, Rogers pointed out, "has been taking hormones for years to become a man. He has a beard and mustache and masculine attributes. He had to stop taking testosterone to get pregnant. He stopped taking it before he went through artificial insemination. And now, during the pregnancy, there can be no male hormones. But his doctor says that his levels of hormones are actually normal for a pregnant woman -- that this is a pregnancy without any complications at all."

Beatie plans to give birth vaginally, Rogers says, adding that, "His plan is not to have an epidural, to have a natural childbirth on or about July 3."

Rogers spoke to Beatie by phone for hours, and Beatie told him the pregnancy had been a secret, but, "The reason we're hearing about the story now is that Thomas is showing, and people are starting to notice it.

"We talked to neighbors who said, 'This is a great couple. Whatever is right for them, is right for them.'

"But ... Thomas and Nancy are worried that other people in their town, and in the whole country, are going to react very strongly, some negatively."

According to some doctors, Thomas probably isn't the first transgendered man to get pregnant, since a transgendered man has the same sex organs as a woman.

[newsterl]

Nobody, certainly, will deny that the idea of the existence of an omnipotent, just, and omnibeneficent personal God is able to accord man solace, help, and guidance; also, by virtue of its simplicity it is accessible to the most undeveloped mind. But, on the other hand, there are decisive weaknesses attached to this idea in itself, which have been painfully felt since the beginning of history. That is, if this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him?

ALbert Einstein

[newsterl]

Though I have asserted above that in truth a legitimate conflict between religion and science cannot exist, I must nevertheless qualify this assertion once again on an essential point, with reference to the actual content of historical religions. This qualification has to do with the concept of God. During the youthful period of mankind''s spiritual evolution human fantasy created gods in man''s own image, who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate to influence, the phenomenal world. Man sought to alter the disposition of these gods in his own favor by means of magic and prayer. The idea of God in the religions taught at present is a sublimation of that old concept of the gods. Its anthropomorphic character is shown, for instance, by the fact that men appeal to the Divine Being in prayers and plead for the fulfillment of their wishes.

[newsterl]

For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be, and outside of its domain value judgments of all kinds remain necessary. Religion, on the other hand, deals only with evaluations of human thought and action: it cannot justifiably speak of facts and relationships between facts. According to this interpretation the well-known conflicts between religion and science in the past must all be ascribed to a misapprehension of the situation which has been described.

For example, a conflict arises when a religious community insists on the absolute truthfulness of all statements recorded in the Bible. This means an intervention on the part of religion into the sphere of science; this is where the struggle of the Church against the doctrines of Galileo and Darwin belongs. On the other hand, representatives of science have often made an attempt to arrive at fundamental judgments with respect to values and ends on the basis of scientific method, and in this way have set themselves in opposition to religion. These conflicts have all sprung from fatal errors.
Albert Einstein

[newsterl]

"science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

I notice the quote does not say CHRISTIAN, or even any specific "religion" or belief, just a catch-all general term in which he allegedly said
"religion without SCIENCE is blind" LOL
"lame" is a lot better than BLIND.

[jankebenz]

Thanks TheGateway1 have a great day!

andersonk49 ! good point

[newsterl]

The deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."

Posted by TheGateway1

Which can also be taken as a belief in paganism or any number of beliefs with his statement you claim there "...forms MY IDEA of god"

[newsterl]

TheGateway1;

He said a "spiritual" whatever, not YOUR brand of ''god'' and gezus was what he felt was out there. That alone disqualified him in YOUR brand of heaven and he is now burning in hel1 according to YOUR brand of religion, so my point is still validated- he did not believe in YOUR god/gezus or attend a CHRISTIAN church, so he is burning in hel1.

In any case, I dont give a rats fat azz what he thought about it, he still couldnt PROVE the existence of a god despite his scientific knowledge on relativity etc.

newsterl:
What a bully you are....Oh well if Christians are wrong then they have nothing to lose...if you are wrong...uh oh!

[wedpix1]

This is such a bogus story with a misleading headline. There is no pregnant man. It is a pregnant woman who is a lesbian. There is no astounding medical breakthrough. Regardless of what a court says or she claims, she is still a woman. This is just one pregnant woman out of millions in America. Big deal. Proves how illogical the whole gay-lesbian thing is. She feels like a man, has the court proclaim her a man, but then she gets pregnant because she is really still a woman, showing how ludicrous she, the court and the writer is. Didn''t you guys at CBS learn about misleading/sloppy journalism from the Dan Rather fiasco? Are you that short of news you have to jump at a press release from the gay-lesbian cartel? Is this advocacy journalism or objective journalism? It seems to be the former.

[blueways]

meant to say that the gender reassignment still does NOT make her a man. she is a woman, period, who choose to act and live like a man. plus... she kept her repo organs so that she could have a baby later... sounds like a bunch of other issues..

[blueways]

This is such ***... I am so sick of people with their confused sexual and gender issues. going through a sexual reassignment- still makes you a man... not wanting to lose your female reproductive organs so that you ''could" have a baby.. really does not make you a man. it is still impossible.. is not a miracle... gender reasignment - still does not give you the ability to have a baby- you are still a woman- confused albeit..

she is a woman - who wants to be and live like a man- but wants to ''birth'' a baby- ............ thisis ***

[krisd999-2009]

BS.A woman on testosterone is NOT a man. One more media lie!

[termtex01]

Einstein also said:

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."

[termtex01]

newstrl, you''re right google is a wonderful thing. Too bad you cut and paste only what agrees with your thinking.

Einstein also said this:

"Science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

[newsterl]

I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. (Albert Einstein)
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This is what Einstein REALLY SAID jerkaboner, Google is a marvelous tool to find the above text to refute false claims you and your buybull pals foist on the readers here.

[termtex01]

I still haven''t had any takers to answer these question. You up for it, newt?

If she ''''feels'''' that she is a man, and goes through the trouble to ''''look'''' like a man, yet keeps her sexual reproductive organs, how does that make her a man?

Or, answer this. Do you support the ''''feeling'''' that "Dennis Avner (born in Flint, Michigan August 27, 1958) of Tonopah, Nevada, United States, is widely known as the "Catman", though he prefers his Native American name, Stalking Cat. Stalking Cat has spent considerable resources to surgically modify his body to resemble that of a tiger." should be legally called a tiger?

or "Erik Sprague (born June 12, 1972 in Austin, Texas) better known as The Lizardman, is a freak and sideshow performer, best known due to his sharpened teeth, full-body tattoo of green scales and bifurcated tongue." should legally be called a lizard?


Same thing in all three cases. What is your answer?

[termtex01]

"There are none so blind as those who view life filtered through the stained glass of church windows.

Posted by newster1 at 02:49 AM : Apr 06, 2008"

And none so intolerant as those who think they are better for not having done so.

[newsterl]

cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science. [He was speaking of Quantum Mechanics and the breaking down of determinism.] My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance -- but for us, not for God. (Albert Einstein,The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press)

If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. (Albert Einstein)

The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously. (Albert Einstein, Letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946)

The foundation of morality should not be made dependent on myth nor tied to any authority lest doubt about the myth or about the legitimacy of the authority imperil the foundation of sound judgment and action. (Albert Einstein)

I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it. (Albert Einstein, The Human Side)

[newsterl]

Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.
(Albert Einstein, 1936, The Human Side. Responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray.)

A man''s ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
(Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930)

I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature. (Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)

[newsterl]

Jerkaboner fabricates the text yet again, Einstein said THIS;

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.

If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954, The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press)