Tall Tales On The Campaign Trail

Plenty Of High-Pressure Candidates Stretch The Truth, But Why?

(CBS)  They were the shots heard round the world.

"I was under sniper fire," Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said.

But as everyone now knows, those shots didn't happen, CBS News anchor Katie Couric reports.

That contrast between her words and CBS News images has caused her reputation to take a hit. In a recent poll, 46 percent of Americans say Clinton is phony; only 48 percent say she's honest.

"What do you think leads a candidate to exaggerate or be hyperbolic about his or her record?" Couric asked Republican strategist and CBS News political analyst Nicolle Wallace.

"You take all the pressure of a press corps that is on top of them all day, every day, and the competitive pressure of being head-to-head with an opponent now for months on end, and there is extraordinary pressure to come up with new proof points to prove her narrative and her reason for being the best candidate to carry the Democratic mantle," said Wallace.

But stretching the truth can be as common on the campaign trail as kissing babies ... and Barack Obama has gilded the lily as well.

Obama claimed it was the Kennedy family who helped send his dad from Kenya to America.

"It is partly because of their generosity that my father came to this country," Obama said at a rally at which he received an endorsement from the Kennedys.

Except that wasn't true. Neither was another story about the 1965 March on Selma inspiring his parents to fall in love.

Trouble is, Obama was born four years before that.

John McCain's rhetoric doesn't always pass the smell test either.

"It's called al Qaeda is in Iraq. And my friends, if we left, they wouldn't be establishing a base," McCain said. "They wouldn't be establishing a base, they'd be taking a country."

"John McCain doesn't need to exaggerate his biography, it's a spectacular biography. But he does exaggerate the threat of al Qaeda in Iraq, which is a small Sunni group in a Shi'ia country," Joe Klein, a columnist for Time, said.

In this day and age, candidates embellish at their own peril.

"We're operating in a 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week news environment now," said Mike Feldman, a former advisor to Al Gore. "There really are no off-camera moments.

It may be harder today but it's hardly new.

In a 1992 "60 Minutes" interview, Correspondent Steve Kroft asked presidential candidate Bill Clinton: "Who is Gennifer Flowers? Do you know her? How do you know her, how would you describe the relationship?"

Mr. Clinton nodded and replied: "Very limited."

Gore's statement about creating the Internet played into the Republican strategy in 2000 that he wasn't trustworthy. While Democrats argued Mr. Bush wasn't up to the job.

"Roger Simon in his book called it Dumbo versus Pinnochio. When President Bush would make a misstatement, it was often seen as benign, a simple mistake," Feldman said. "When Vice President Gore would make a misstatement, it was often seen as malicious or intentionally misleading."

In this campaign cycle, Hillary Clinton runs the risk of being portrayed the same way.

"Her vulnerability among Democrats is that she will say or do anything and there is a willingness on her part to stretch or strain the truth," Wallace said.

That's not Obama's weakness, but something else could be.

"People view Obama as essentially honest so they give him the benefit of the doubt. But questions about experience and readiness for office-those are the ones, if he stumbles, could really harm him," said CBS News political analyst Joe Trippi.

[rebelscout]

Man they ALL have to lie or they can''t join the club!

[rowdytexan2]

Embellishing a little is one thing, but presenting yourself as someone you''re absolutely not, is totally another thing. And embellishing about yourself is also one thing, but when you embellish, twist, and distort regarding others, there is a serious character flaw.

[rebelscout]

What kill''s me is when there''s a media contingent with them and they somehow, stupidly, seem to forget it!

[lordmi]

The cases listed above are so different, that the sense went out of this article.
Simpliest thing - how can we name the False On Purpose just misspoke?
We are not fools!
If You name things their exact names - the sense is becoming clear.
The chain of false facts created by Hillary is making her the pserson who can NOT be trusted Ever.
And if to take Your simple approach "misspoke" - it is still dangerous, when person, pretended to make Global decisions could not remember: what was that - the bullet or flowers from a chile. At least 50 % chances, that she may forget : is it wedding or funeral, War or piece. and so on, and so on.
Dems wold not be in such a mess, if media will name things correctly.
Please, do not make fools of us.
Please, do NOT.

[obamasgranny]

Let''s not forget Obama checked the "African American" box on his Harvard application,..and by the guidelines of our Federal law you must be 12.5% of any given race to call yourself that race for "minority" classification. Mr Obama fails to meet that standard of 12.5%, in fact he is 6.25% African only,...that is a Whopper of a lie!! He will not be the first African American president even if elected,..but could claim to be the first Arab-American president because he is 50% Caucasion, 43.75% Arab and 6.25% African,..read it here:

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

If an man will lie about his heritage to get ahead,..what else will he lie about?

NOBAMA 08

[hinnis]

OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA AD
From NBC/NJ%u2019s Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa. -- The Clinton campaign today accused the Obama campaign of "false advertising," claiming that a recent ad Obama released in Pennsylvania was disngenous because Obama has been the recipient of more than $200,000 from the oil and gas industry.
In the ad, Obama says, "I''m Barack Obama, and I don''t take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won''t let them block change any more."
Obama has taken $213,884 from the oil and gas industry as of Feb. 29th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Sen. Hillary Clinton has taken $306,813 in that same period.
Two of Obama''s campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per a list released on his campaign Web site.
Robert Cavnar, listed as a bundler who has raised between $50,000 to $100,000 for the campaign, is the chairman and CEO of Mission Resources Corp., a Houston-based firm. George Kaiser, also listed in the same $50,000 to $100,000 category, is the CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Company.
"It''s unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "Senator Obama says he doesn''t take campaign contributions from oil companies but the reality is that Exxon, Shell, and others are among his donors."

[alindra-2009]

Let me see: there were two African air lifts 1959 and 1960. Kennedy financed the 1960 but not the 1959 while Barack Obama Sr came in 1959. Barack Obama Jr. said that Kennedy%u2019s helped his father come to the US. He should have said %u201Cpeople LIKE Kennedy%u2019s helped his father to come to the US%u201D. Big lie, big big lie. Compare it to landing YOURSELF (not your father) under the sniper%u2019s fire and remembering it wrong, %u201Cmisspeaking%u201D.

Selma. Selma is a symbol. Do you know what a symbol is? The Obama Sr.-Dunham relationship was portrayed at about that same time (or a little later, let%u2019s not split hairs) by Stanley Kramer in %u201CGuess who%u2019s coming to dinner?%u201D

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by lordmi at 08:04 PM : Apr 02, 2008

And you will support Obama and every one of his at lies? There are so many out there right now, he''s surpassed Bush/Cheney! He''s at least batting a thousand!

[alindra-2009]

Let me see: there were two African air lifts 1959 and 1960. Kennedy financed the 1960 but not the 1959 while Barack Obama Sr came in 1959. Barack Obama Jr. said that Kennedy%u2019s helped his father come to the US. He should have said %u201Cpeople LIKE Kennedy%u2019s helped his father to come to the US%u201D. Big lie, big big lie. Compare it to landing YOURSELF (not your father) under the sniper%u2019s fire and remembering it wrong, %u201Cmisspeaking%u201D.

Selma. Selma is a symbol. Do you know what a symbol is? The Obama Sr.-Dunham relationship was portrayed at about that same time (or a little later, let%u2019s not split hairs) by Stanley Kramer in %u201CGuess who%u2019s coming to dinner?%u201D

[alindra-2009]

Let me see: there were two African air lifts 1959 and 1960. Kennedy financed the 1960 but not the 1959 while Barack Obama Sr came in 1959. Barack Obama Jr. said that Kennedy%u2019s helped his father come to the US. He should have said %u201Cpeople LIKE Kennedy%u2019s helped his father to come to the US%u201D. Big lie, big big lie. Compare it to landing YOURSELF (not your father) under the sniper%u2019s fire and remembering it wrong, %u201Cmisspeaking%u201D.

Selma. Selma is a symbol. Do you know what a symbol is? The Obama Sr.-Dunham relationship was portrayed at about that same time (or a little later, let%u2019s not split hairs) by Stanley Kramer in %u201CGuess who%u2019s coming to dinner?%u201D

[alindra-2009]

Let me see: there were two African air lifts 1959 and 1960. Kennedy financed the 1960 but not the 1959 while Barack Obama Sr came in 1959. Barack Obama Jr. said that Kennedy%u2019s helped his father come to the US. He should have said %u201Cpeople LIKE Kennedy%u2019s helped his father to come to the US%u201D. Big lie, big big lie. Compare it to landing YOURSELF (not your father) under the sniper%u2019s fire and remembering it wrong, %u201Cmisspeaking%u201D.

Selma. Selma is a symbol. Do you know what a symbol is? The Obama Sr.-Dunham relationship was portrayed at about that same time (or a little later, let%u2019s not split hairs) by Stanley Kramer in %u201CGuess who%u2019s coming to dinner?%u201D

[jumkey]

Again, the giant double standard - all things are ignored by the media if it''s a Republican involved.

It''s kind of hard for me to get worked up over Obama taking campaign contributions from oil company employees but no one care that Bush lied to start a war. The old "hey look at the Democrat!" while the Republicans get a free pass from a lapdog media.

Sorry, doesn''t wash.

[starpost]

Actually, Katie Darling, you''d be surprised at just how much Gore had to do with the birth/growth of the Internet. If he didn''t "create" it, he sure as hell was one of the parents. Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology You know, sometimes reducing public figures to a snippet of a phrase here and there really doesn''t do them justice. Sometimes it''s like that. Too bad the full story of Gore and the Internet was not fully reported in 2000. It''s an amazing tale of a "politician" sticking with and addressing a very serious issue. Imagine. How different. Things. Might have been. As a reporter, you have that kind of power, Katie Darling. Why don''t you use it instead of writing trash articles like this? BTW, I don''t see your byline on this article, but I''m giving you credit anyway. The buck stops with you.

[greenfun]

Here is another one from Obama

Newsweek reports:
"In a new ad, Obama says, "I don''t take money from oil companies."

Technically, that''s true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn''t distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading, because:

Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

Two of Obama''s bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful."

[forthedems]

Ok. That article was absurd.

Obama was wrong about things involving his father''s biography. How did the things he was wrong about enhance his standing? Not at all. Confusing details of childhood stories is just that: confusion, and not a bit of it affects anyone''s view of him.

Hillary lying about being under sniper fire is another story. She was using it to show off foreign policy experience, of which she has none. Claiming she was responsible for the peace accords in Ireland is another stunning and false example of this. Her lies are targeted and knowing. Obama''s are not.

As for McCain''s comments about al Qaeda, I''m not sure about them. He seems to think that the (Shi''ite, and therefore extremely anti-Sunni) Iranians are helping a Sunni group (which he said four times), which is totally nonsensical. That he''s banging the drum of al Qaeda to get people to think that the Iraq war has something to do with 9/11 is obvious. He advocates continuing the war indefinitely with no defined goal, and knows that the only way people will believe in that is if we believe we are fighting people that attacked us. Whether he has any idea who is actually fighting in Iraq or not, I''m not sure. He doesn%u2019t to. So either he is lying on purpose to promote a war, or he is completely oblivious about the situation there, and still wants an indefinite war for no defined reason. Either way it''s extremely dangerous.

I for one do not put those false statements in the same league.

[jgunther7]

Yes alindra, I agree. Stories like Kennedy bringing Obama''s father to the U.S. are the type of stories that get passed down from generation to generation without validation. They might even get embellished being passed from one party to another. However there is a quantum leap from this kind of oversight to that of purposely distorting the truth by Hillary. More importantly, we know from years of experience with the Clintons, they are all pathological liars.

[hinnis]

03/08
POLITICO BUSTS OBAMA IN MORE LIES
We wrote a piece covering some of Obama''s bigger lies during his campaign including lies about his association with Rezko, lies about how much money he received from Rezko and his later admission that he received more than he originally said. Then his NAFTA lies, and his lies about what he heard from Rev. Wright and when he heard it, as we showed his statement saying he never heard those controversial "God *** America" remarks as well as the racial remarks and anti-American remarks and just four days later, made a speech where he admitted he had heard controversial remarks. Now The Politico has just busted more Obama lies. During his first run for office, Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion; positions that are at odds with the moderate image he has projected during his campaign. The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group%u2019s questionnaire. Last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama%u2019s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he %u201Cnever saw or approved%u201D it. But it%u2019s been determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the Chicago nonprofit group that issued it. And it found that Obama filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain his own handwritten notes. Obama did not dispute that the handwriting was his.

[jack3213]

THE TRUTH HURTS, YES, SO TIME TO ACCEPT REALITY SO YOU CAN BE READY FOR CHANGE, WITH THE ONE PERSON WHO CAN BRING IT TO YOU - MCCAIN- UNLESS OF COURSE YOU WISH TO REMAIN A VICTIM OF SOCIETY AND CONTINUE TO BLAME THE GOVERNMENT WITH YOUR HAND OUT - THEN GET ANGRY BECAUSE THEY LIED TO YOU- YET AGAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU MEAN TO THEM- ( THE DUMB DEMOCRATS) THAT ERA IS OVER, BABY.

[hinnis]

OBAMA LIES ABOUT PLAYING THE RACE CARD
Following a speech by Hillary Clinton praising Lyndon Johnson for his role in helping pass the 1964 Civil Rights Act, an Obama campaign advisor privately released a four page memo urging hammering Clinton for denigrating Dr. King. Yet, Obama told reporters that neither he nor anyone in his campaign had made the accusation that Clinton denigrated King. Why did Obama say that when clearly it was the memo from his campaign advisor that triggered the media and public assault on Clinton regarding King?

[rowdytexan2]

I just love the double standards in here.

It''s okay for Mr. Obama to make a lovely speech about his black roots. Why it was such a beautifully tear jerking speech that sounded so purty and so heartwarming. But the only fact in it was that his father came here from Kenya.

But it''s not okay for Hillary to talk about an experience that was certainly tense at the time, as there had been sniper fire in the hills when she landed, and if you will notice when they got off the plane they were surrounded by an escort of troops for protection. And after they departed the plane found some girls with gifts and thanked them and accepted them, and were escorted around the landing strip by soldiers, and eventually rushed to the cars for the trip to the site. So there were some facts in it...it just wasn''t really as tense as she remembers it to be.

So now she''s a pathological liar, and Obama is just a little boy relating the tales of his ancestors that just happened to be WRONG!

You people just crack me up! What nonsense!

[hinnis]

A VERY GOOD ARTICLE FROM THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER ABOUT OBAMA PLAYING THE RACE CARD:
http://tinyurl.com/3cxskw

[hinnis]

OBAMA%u2019S CHANGING STORY ON REZKO: Chicago Sun-Times, March 16, 2008: For the first time, Sen. Barack Obama put a figure Friday to the amount of campaign contributions that indicted political fund-raiser Tony Rezko raised for the senator''s campaigns, and the number -- about $250,000 -- was far more than he previously acknowledged. Obama''s estimate exceeded his campaign staff''s previous estimates of Rezko''s fund-raising during Obama''s 12 years in politics. In November 2006, Obama''s staff estimated Rezko raised $50,000 to $60,000 over the senator''s career. In the last year, Obama''s campaign fund has given charities more than $157,600 in donations it linked to Rezko, his family, friends and business associates.

[hinnis]

OBAMA: DIRTY POLITICIAN FROM THE START: Chicago Sun-Times%u2014A close examination of Obama%u2019s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer%u2019s hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. See below for whole story.

http://tinyurl.com/2zwwte

[rowdytexan2]

And they were both doing it to ingratiate themselves with voters. It''s what politicians do, try to make themselves look good and appeal to their voters.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by hinnis at 09:20 PM : Apr 02, 2008

You go Hinnis! If they''re going to hang one out to dry for lies, make hang out the other one too!

[kmccliment]

we know from years of experience jgunther7 that Barry and Michele Obama are racially bigoted liars.

[rebelscout]

Well the racist''s are out tonight! Why is it that Hillary can lie, McCain can lie, So can everybody else but let''s pick on the black man! Don''t forget to get your hood''s and robe''s from the cleaner''s tomorrow!

[hinnis]

Thanks Rowdy Texan: When the mainstream media continues to give Obama a pass, it becomes imperative to correct the record. He lies almost every time he makes a statement, and he gets away with it.

[hinnis]

rebelscout: It''s getting really old that whenever one criticizes Obama, a race card get''s thrown, either by him, or one of his supporters. To point out the fact that he is a liar or a corrupt politician is not racism. Now, Obama''s racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser" Rev. Wright, and Obama''s racist black liberation theology, that''s quite a different matter.

[rebelscout]

By the way, in politic''s you have no freind''s and they ALL know it! That''s the name of the game pal!

[hinnis]

OBAMA WILL NOT COOPERATE IN RELEASING 8 YEARS OF HIS STATE SENATE RECORDS
Judicial Watch: Obama %u2018intended to leave no paper trail%u2019
By Klaus Marre
Posted: 03/26/08 01:01 PM [ET]
The president of a prominent watchdog group said Wednesday that he believes Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) %u201Cintended to leave no paper trail%u201D during his time in the Illinois Senate.

Judicial Watch, which has been seeking access to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton%u2019s (D-N.Y.) records from her time in the White House, argued Wednesday that the Illinois senator, who has criticized the former first lady for a lack of openness, has his own %u201Crecords problem.%u201D
%u201CThe more we learn about the Illinois Senator, the more obvious it becomes that he is anything but the ethically upright outsider he purports to be,%u201D said Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch.
The group rose to prominence when it repeatedly took on former President Bill Clinton during his time in office. It also sought records from the Bush administration regarding Vice President *** Cheney%u2019s energy task force.
In a statement, Fitton noted that his group has sought access to Obama%u2019s records as a state senator and questioned whether the presidential candidate has been forthcoming with regard to what happened to those documents.
He said that %u201Cnobody knows where they are, if they exist at all%u201D and claimed that %u201CObama%u2019s story keeps changing.%u201D

[rebelscout]

hinnis, I think they ALL are liar''s! It''s just that some of you focus on ONE person and forgive the others!! If you are going to call someone out, CALL THEM ALL OUT!!!

[hinnis]

OBAMA%u2019S RACIST RELIGION
Mon Mar 17, 2008
When Rev. Wright got into an argument with Sean Hannity, he at one point refused to answer Hannity''s questions and kept asking Hannity "Have you read James Cone, what do you know about black theology? Have you read Cone?"
James Cone is one of he founders of Black Liberation Theology. Rev. Wright''s ministry, his beliefs about America, and about life itself are formed by his attraction to and acceptance of the writings of Cone.
Let''s look at some quotes from Cone.
____________________
"The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people."
"All white men are responsible for white oppression. "
"Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ''the devil.''"
" Jesus Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants."
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
"The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

[lil_willie61]

I notice that the article refers to Hillary and Barry lying about facts, while McCain''s supposed lie was not agreeing with the opinion of a magazine columnist. That makes a big difference in my eyes.

[kmccliment]

why is it that when a person of color doesnt like a comment they cry racism. i guess they have never had to learn to be an adult and that everyone has an opinion. i feel that every person of color that cries racism is racist themselves.

[hinnis]

rebelscout: I agree that every politician I have encountered is dishonest to varying degrees. The reason I focus on Obama is two-fold: (1) Because the mainstream media will not give the same attention to his lies that they give those of Hillary. Hillary lies about her landing in Bosnia, and it''s front page news for days and days; Obama right now is lying in his ads in Pennsylvania about his contributions from oil companies, which I believe is a much more serious issue, and the press virtually ignores it. (2) The second reason has to do with the whole basis of Obama''s campaign. He couldn''t really run on experience or reputation, so he ran on being the candidate of "change" and "unity." On closer investigation, it turns out that he is neither. Regarding change, he lies more than any of the three major candidates; regarding his ability to unify, he has belonged to a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, and considers its racist and anti-American pastor to be his "mentor and spiritual adviser." So, you''re right; we certainly don''t have any perfect candidates running for President, but until the press does a better job vetting Obama, I''m going to do my small little part.

[rebelscout]

CALL THEM ALL OUT, DAM IT THEY ALL LIE! THEIR POLITICIONS, THAT''S WHAT THEY DO!

[chitown639]

why is it that when a person of color doesnt like a comment they cry racism. i guess they have never had to learn to be an adult and that everyone has an opinion. i feel that every person of color that cries racism is racist themselves.


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Posted by kmccliment

Sweeping generalizations like the one you made are what inspire the charges of racism that you are complaining about. Racists make sweeping generalizations along racial lines......

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by hinnis at 09:42 PM : Apr 02, 2008

Exactly! He does. And it''s amazing that people just fall all over themselves wanting to put this man in the president''s seat.

You can post facts all day long, and to them it''s like it''s just okay!

He lied coming right out of the box claiming he would conduct a campaign that would be above politics as usual. And he played dirty politics in Illinois the first political step he took! And in this campaign has created total chaos, and never spoke to an issue until December!

And the media spews out every word he says like it''s coming straight from God! Obama could say, "I pooped green today!" And the media bots and Obama bots just oooooo and ahhhhhhhh like it''s the second coming of Christ!

[rebelscout]

Have to agree that the press will not dog Obama like they do Hill. They also won''t rip McBush the same way. That is the press and why I watch PBS for new''s more than I do anyone else.

[candide777]

Pro gun people go around talking about how felons can''t legally buy guns but they fail to mention that at least one third of the felonies committed each year do not result in a conviction. Bottom line is that there are a LOT of people running around out there who have committed multiple felonies but never been convicted. There is no way to keep them from legally purchasing guns because that would cut into the gun manufacturers'' profits and they won''t stand for that! They won''t rest until every one in the country feels the need to buy a gun, and their making that happen by legally arming people who commit felonies but are too smart to get caught.

Censor this, "BillORights"!

[hinnis]

rebelscout: Good suggestion about PBS. The more well-known cable news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.) have all proven themselves to be biased one way or another. It is truly a sorry state of affairs when the media cannot be trusted to report the news objectively.

[kmccliment]

chitown639 I was responding to a not so educated comment by a person of color which basicly said the same thing. I just reversed the roles to make a point.

[chitown639]

Wow, in the photo above it doesnt seem like the same scene described in those rallies. Hillary, Chelsea and Sinbad are brave folks strolling through that hail of sniper fire....Hillary 2016

[kmccliment]

Im curious when was the last time Barry visited anywhere that had bullets flying?

[hinnis]

rowdytexan: I know what you mean. My theory of why so many Obama supporters refuse to recognize any flaws in their candidate is that they began to admire him in the beginning when they knew almost nothing about him. All they really knew is that he comes across very genuine and articulate. He spoke of grand (but nonspecific) themes like "change" and "unity" and they believed him. Once they were hooked, it became almost like a first crush. Now, if any information does not comport with their view of Obama, they simply cannot process it. Their first impression is to rationalize it, and if that doesn''t work, then attack the messenger. I don''t, however, blame Obama supporters as much as I blame him. He knew from the start that he was perpetrating a hoax on the American public, and for that, I cannot forgive him.

[rebelscout]

You got that hinnis! PBS ALWAYS give''s both side''s evenly and you end up knowing where they stand because the interviewer get''s into both side''s equally tough.I just wish everyone used the same way of thinking as they do.Our country might come out better if we vetted all of them as tough. Hell, it might make the process go faster.

[chitown639]

Im curious when was the last time Barry visited anywhere that had bullets flying?


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Posted by kmccliment

Hey, maybe Obama(Barry) will come out and say his plane had to do a corkscrew landing on a airfield in Kenya, and he and his family and Sinbad had to run for cover from sniper fire.....

[kmccliment]

did anyone notice Barry fluff off a guy in PA for a photo op. Barry became agitated and said he didnt want to because the guy interupted Barry when he was talking with some children. He then caught himself and stopped. There was no children. I think he realized that the media would surely hit him for lying on that one. I still think if mr everyday man asking for the photo was Barrys color he would have stopped and taken it.

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by hinnis at 10:19 PM : Apr 02, 2008

I agree. At first I even thought, wow! But then began to do the research and went...wait a minute, this is nothing like reality I''m seeing here!

I thougt wow, 830 bills sponsored! And then when you look, for seven years, he never passed a piece of legislation, until the last year of his term when all the bills were handed to him to write that other politicians had worked on for years. They promoted him like some kind of legislative whiz kid!

And then, as a US senator, he named a post office, and got legislation passed to support efforts in the Congo!

Where''s all this wonderful stuff he was supposed to have done that qualifies him to be our president?