WASHINGTON, March 31, 2008

Clintons, Obama Urge Primary Patience

Hillary Clinton Vows Fight To Convention, Obama Picks Up Another Superdelegate

(CBS/AP)  Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has feasted on adversity in the Democratic presidential primaries, is rejecting calls from some key Barack Obama supporters to drop out of the race for the good of the party, declaring she will stay until the last state primary votes are counted, even if it means what some democrats fear will be an ugly public battle at the August national convention.

Former President Bill Clinton, underscoring his wife's determination against statistically long odds of overcoming Obama's pledged delegate lead, said in California Sunday a "vigorous debate" was good for the party and those who want to see the former first lady quit the contest should just "chill out."

"We're going to win this election if we just chill out and let everybody have their say," Clinton said.

A crowd of about 20,000 was chilled as supporters waited in cool temperatures for Obama to speak on the campus lawn at Penn State University, where the Illinois senator agreed that the tough campaign was healthy if frustrating.

"As this primary has gone on a little bit long, there have been people who've been voicing some frustration," Obama said.

"I want everybody to understand that this has been a great contest, great for America. It's engaged and involved people like never before. I think it's terrific that Senator Clinton's supporters have been as passionate as my supporters have been because that makes the people invested and engaged in this process, and I am absolutely confident that when this primary season is over Democrats will be united."

After Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy last week became the first leading Democrat to openly call on Clinton to abandon her bid and back Obama, the front-runner said Clinton should stay in the race as long as she wanted. He also said he had not talked to Leahy before he issued his statement on Clinton leaving the race. But Leahy's sentiment is shared by many activists worried that a drawn-out nominating contest only bolsters Republican nominee-in-waiting John McCain.

Other Obama supporters have echoed that view while stopping short of asking Clinton to withdraw.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Sunday called Obama's lead all but insurmountable, while Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said the contest would be reaching "a point of judgment" very soon.

"I don't think it's up to our campaign or any individual to tell Hillary Clinton or their campaign when that is," Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee, said on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "But there will be, I think, a consensus about it, and I think it's going to occur over these next weeks."

Obama picked up the endorsement of Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar Sunday night, giving him another superdelegate supporter.

In a statement provided to The Associated Press, Klobuchar said Obama "has inspired an enthusiasm and idealism that we have not seen in this country in a long time."

In a statement, Obama said he's grateful for Klobuchar's support. According to the Obama campaign, Klobuchar is the 64th superdelegate to endorse him since the Feb. 5th Super Tuesday contests.

Last week, Obama picked up the support of Sen. Bob Casey Jr., D-Pa., giving the candidate a boost heading into the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.

Richardson, D-N.M., who chose "loyalty to the nation" over his long-standing ties to the Clintons in backing Obama, told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer on Sunday that while superdelegates should play a key role, the party "big-shots" should not ultimately determine the party's nominee. "It should the voters."

As she has fought through three-months of primary voting, Clinton has been able count on a deep well of support from women voters, many of whom see the attempt to push her out of the race now as the work of a male-dominated party structure.

In California, Clinton beat Obama by a margin of 59 percent to 36 percent among women. She bettered him by 54 percent to 45 percent among women in Ohio, an important general election battleground state.

Obama, in turn, has walloped Clinton among men in nearly every state. He has prevailed among women in just a handful of places, including his home state of Illinois and states with large black populations.

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John McCain, it appears, is going to be a party of one.

John McCain
As Obama crossed Pennsylvania, which votes on April 22, he pounded his message of reform and said again that McCain was running for U.S. President George W. Bush's third term.

McCain, the Arizona senator and Vietnam war hero, gave a major foreign policy speech last week trying to blunt Democratic attempts to paint him as a candidate who would view the world through Bush's pre-emptive foreign policy lens.

"Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed," said in the carefully honed speech to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council. "We need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our democratic allies."

Nevertheless, McCain has not backed away from his support for the unpopular Iraq war and has, in fact, said his candidacy would likely stand or fall on the outcome. Violence has flared anew in Iraq despite the U.S. troop surge that McCain said has been a success.

CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs reports that McCain has launched a new tour to reintroduce himself to the American electorate, but he's running his campaign in a way that seeks to separate him from the many woes facing the GOP.

"John McCain, it appears, is going to be a party of one," says Ververs in an analysis on the Arizona Senator's latest campaign moves.

Clinton, in vowing to continue her campaign until August if necessary, returned to the open Democratic Party sore of the negated primary votes in Michigan and Florida.

She won both contests, but the national party had said in advance the contests would not count because the state parties ignored the prohibition against holding the votes too early. Obama had taken his name off the Michigan ballot for that reason and neither candidate focused campaigning in those states.

But Clinton trails Obama by 1,624 to 1,499 in national delegates, including both those pledged as a result of state primaries and caucuses as well as superdelegates - elected and party officials who can vote for whomever they wish.

Clinton now insists the Michigan and Florida votes be added to her tally. She won in both states.

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by samthetvcat March 31, 2008 3:58 AM PDT
"I want everybody to understand that this has been a great contest, great for America. It''s engaged and involved people like never before. I think it''s terrific that Senator Clinton''s supporters have been as passionate as my supporters have been because that makes the people invested and engaged in this process"

Great point Barack! There probably is something of an advantage for Democrats to have had both Barack and Hillary be forced to go to each and every state to try and connect with people and listen to their stories and compete for peoples'' votes while McBush doing who knows what.

I don''t buy the idea that all the Republicans signing up as Democrats is just to mess with our primaries - I think if people suspect that their parties'' chances are not great, then there''s some allure in having a say in the true race for President, and that''s all happening on the Democratic side. Maybe they''ll cross back over in November, but maybe that extra personal attention might just have opened the door to some otherwise closed minds . . . Barack and Hillary are supposedly like rock stars on the campaign trail now, so a couple of changed minds could really start to add up . . .
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by rick_harsch March 31, 2008 4:05 AM PDT
Both Hillary ''sniper dodger'' Clinton and Barack ''I''m not a racist'' Obama can not beat McCain as it currently stands. One of them has to bow out and back up the other one or else McCain will waltz into the White House. Unfortunately both of them are so used to entitlements and they don''t understand what ''taking one for the team'' means that their pride will doom the Democrat Party for this Presidential cycle.
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by samthetvcat March 31, 2008 4:13 AM PDT
rick_harsch, LOL just the opposite one will get the nomination and one will get VP and McBush will have to fight off BOTH of them once we consolidate. Three months ought to be more than enough time for we Dems to run the ''Straight Talk Express'' into the ditch ;D

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by rick_harsch March 31, 2008 4:46 AM PDT
Sam, I hope you are right, but reality tells us, if they stay entrenched as they are, McCain will win. If the one of them doesn''t grow up and bow out soon, it''s all over but the crying.
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by jockh March 31, 2008 4:57 AM PDT
HILLARY CLINTON - READY TO LIE ON DAY ONE !!!!

First she denies that she was pro NAFTA. White House schedules have now been released, showing she held several high profile meetings to endorse NAFTA.

Second she tells outright lies about her bullet dodging trip to Bosnia.

The big problem for Hillary is that the American people know how easily the Clintons lie. Taking a leaf from Bill she will say: Well, it depends on how you define "sniper fire" and "ran". And then we will hear her say I DID NOT HAVE MILITARY RELATIONS WITH THAT SNIPER.

Misspeaking is one thing, repeating it over and over makes it a FLAT LIE !!

She cannot win the Democratic nomination without causing a civil war in the Democratic Party. Her recent actions, especially comparing herself to, and praising, McCain while undermining Obama, make it appear that she is willing to do just that -- split the party in two. Seriously, can you imagine McCain saying that that he had a lifetime of experience, Hillary had a lifetime of experience, but Romney didn''t? That would never happen. It''s unacceptable. And it has to stop.

I get that it sucks to lose. But, it happens. Hillary, drop out with your head up high. Unless of course you''re ducking sniper fire again
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by jwrhea March 31, 2008 5:04 AM PDT
JOB..DESTROYER .... WAGE PACKAGE..DESTROYER
HOME MORTGAGE .. DESTROYER .....
PERSONAL CREDIT .. DESTROYER
AMERICAN ECONOMY .. DESTROYER
FAMILY UNIT .. DESTROYER
WORKING - MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA .. DESTROYER

Yup thats the republican party virtues and economic policies. Check the state of the country after the last five republican presidents.

How does that song go ==another day older and deeper in debt
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Lets see, You demand more wages than your employer is willing to pay. So your job goes overseas.
You wrack up credit card debt buying those flat plasma displays, iphones and hi def blueray things and then mortage your home to the hilt with whomever is crazy or predatory enough to do it.
And then you start wracking up the credit cards again. and when you cant afford them and your mortage you default and walk away to leave the taxpayer to ultimatly pay the price.
But to make yourself feel better, you log in here and scream and shout that its those republicans who forced you to live beyond what you could pay for.
Yeah you are another day older and deeper in debt. And i seriously doubt you have learned anything from it.
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by kmccliment March 31, 2008 5:19 AM PDT
Barry and Michele Hussein Obama are racially bigoted liars.
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by jockh March 31, 2008 5:43 AM PDT
Hillary Clintons lack of transparency, hiding the dubious sources of her funding by refusing to release her tax returns, her repeated lies about experience (misspeaking is one thing, repeating it over and over makes it a FLAT LIE ), negative campaigning, telling outright lies about her role in NAFTA, trying to change the rules as you go along. Thinking she had the nomination in hand as soon as she said I am running for President, like she was entitled to it and her attempts to inject race into the campaign have given voters a negative albeit accurate view of her.
She is willing to try to steal the nomination from Obama knowing full well that to overturn the will of the voters would seriously hurt the Democrat Party and cost us the election.
Its so funny how the Clintons say "let the voters vote", but at the same time they say "but after they vote let the super Delegates change what the people voted for."

So its not ok to disregard voters in MI and FL but its ok to disregard voters across the whole country %u2026 that%u2019s some democracy Clinton is advocating !!
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by jockh March 31, 2008 5:45 AM PDT
PEOPLE WITH NOTHING TO HIDE DONT USUALLY HIDE !!

Why wont Hillary release her tax returns? If Hillary can loan 5 million dollars to her campaign then surely the voters have a right to know the source of her funding.

The main excuse we''ve gotten so far is that Hillary Clinton just has too much on her plate. "I''m a little busy right now," she said during the Ohio debate. "I hardly have time to sleep. But I will certainly work toward releasing, and we will get that done and in the public domain."
That was five weeks ago. One month ago, Howard Wolfson promised the returns would be released "on or around April 15." But the returns were completed and filed a long time ago? All Clinton has to do is print them out and make some copies (note to Clinton: many Kinko''s are open 24 hours).

In short, it''s well past time for Hillary Clinton to be as "vetted" as she claims to already be -- and to have this vetting done now by Democratic voters rather than later by GOP hit squads. She needs to live up to the standard she laid out for Rick Lazio, the opponent in her 2000 Senate race. At that time, she hypocritically said it was "FRANKLY DISTURBING" that Lazio was holding back on releasing his tax returns and she even sent a staffer dressed as Uncle Sam to taunt him during campaign stops.

What a difference eight years -- and tens of millions of dollars (some of them from questionable Arab deals) -- can make.
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by rick_harsch March 31, 2008 5:50 AM PDT
I would have never guessed in a million years that in the year that Republicans put up the oldest and most liberal presidential candidate ever, that the Democrats would get so caught up fighting itself that the Republicans still win by default. It''s reasons like this that I chose to live overseas.
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by jockh March 31, 2008 6:26 AM PDT
Clinton resume%u2026only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance - Most convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates - Most cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation - Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify - Most witnesses to die suddenly - First president sued for sexual harassment - First president accused of rape - First first lady to come under criminal investigation - Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case - First president to establish a legal defense fund - First president to be held in contempt of court - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad - First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court Man!!! That is awesome!!! You are the real deal ! Don''t let anyone tell you differently! However, bend down, I need to whisper something in your ear...The incident in Ohio, you know, that little lie about NAFTA to make fools out of the Ohio voters? Don''t let that get you down...you were just being yourself...A liar, cheat, corruptor and a person without morals or ethics but you still have fools following you despite the facts. Back to your taxes. Where are they? They were due a year ago. You adamantly INSISTED that your opponent, Lazio, release his tax returns in 2000 so why are you not practicing what you preach? What are you hiding? Lastly Hillary, please tell us about the multimillion dollar fraud lawsuit that you and Bill are currently fighting.
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by nwihoosier March 31, 2008 6:36 AM PDT
Peace and Love
tulcak, with all due respect, you have no clue about economics. What are you, about fifteen years old? You have the right to say foolish things.
Peace and Love
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by skyk-2009 March 31, 2008 6:55 AM PDT
Peace and Love
tulcak, with all due respect, you have no clue about economics. What are you, about fifteen years old? You have the right to say foolish things.
Peace and Love


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Posted by nwihoosier at 06:36 AM : Mar 31, 2008
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How old are YOU? What the fellow citizen posted WAS the absolute TRUTH! When Bush and the Republican''s took over the Government they had a Country with a Balanced Budget AND a Surplus. Look at us NOW! I''ve heard the promises of the "Trickle Down" garbage for decades and decades.... Tax Cuts for the Rich, that will trickle down to the lower classes, we will cut spending and the budget will be balanced. The ONLY thing true in that BIG and I do mean VERY big LIE is the Tax Cuts for the Wealthy. NO Republican President has made this failed and useless theory work yet and there is no reason to believe they ever will.
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by jwrhea March 31, 2008 6:57 AM PDT
tulcak
Incredible, you just prove my beliefs on the dumbing down of america. Pull your head out of your posterior and look around and take a big breath.
We have the lowest savings rate in history, The highest level of personal debt in history.
We have become obese, lazy and greedy. Our manufacturing sector has fled the country because we are too expensive as employees. Yet we still rack up the debt buying the latest and greatest of everything. We just put it on our credit cards. Charge, charge, charge. Then we roll all that over into a mortage and start again.
I dont know where you live, but i see it every day.
We are the biggest CONSUMERS in history. It drives our economy. We dont save. More and more end up on welfare every year, More and more able bodied americans jump on the disability wagon every year.
And when your countrys citizens consume more than they produce you get huge trade deficits. All this effects our economy, our jobs, our futures more than another bunch of fake, promise you anything politicians running for president from any party.
And then we have head in the sand ignorants telling people to shut up, that everything is okay. that they are blameless victims of a political party. You might want to look around your house and catagorize the i wanted stuff and the I needed stuff. Then look at your debt to income level. You might actually learn something. If not, so be it. i have wasted enough time with the likes of you.
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by crater7 March 31, 2008 7:02 AM PDT
jockh; People with nothing to hide don''t usually hide!!

YOU REALLY SHOULD FIND YOU SOME NEW MATERIAL. BUT OF COURSE, YOU ARE LIKE YOUR BOSS OBAMA, YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL IDEAS. ONLY TRANSPARNT, TEFLON THOUGHTS.

GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT " G D AMERICA.
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by jack3213 March 31, 2008 7:12 AM PDT
Obama: Who is he to claim the moral high ground?

Where does this child of privilege who went to two Ivy League schools, then spent 20 years in a church where racist rants were routine, come off preaching to anyone? What are Barack''s moral credentials to instruct white folks on what they must do, when he failed to do what any decent father should have done: Take his wife and daughters out of a church where hate had a home in the pulpit?

Clinton: Simply a liar.

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by broncfan1661 March 31, 2008 7:18 AM PDT
jockh, You Obama people seem to have diarrhea of the mouth. You must be taking typing lessons in High School. No, what I think you are doing is saving this *** on your computer and pasting it in a message. This seems to be a ploy of Obama''s supporters. Go to school so we grown ups can have normal conversations.
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by craigh9 March 31, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
I just laughed out loud reading this. If the numbers were opposite the Clinton''s would be screaming at the top of their oungs and calling in every favor they could to get Obama to drop out. But since the shoe is on the other foot they say "chill out" - ridiculous, they are killing the party chances and they know it - and what''s worse, they don''t care because it will make it an easier run for them in 2012 because there won''t be a sitting democratic president.
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by boatdocster March 31, 2008 7:53 AM PDT
"We''re going to win this election if we just chill out and let everybody have their say," Clinton said.

More sleep deprivation!!
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by jockh March 31, 2008 7:54 AM PDT
Hillary trails Obama by every measure, and it''s obvious to everyone that she has virtually no hope of winning the nomination.

Yet the former first lady trudges on in some phantom contest oblivious to the sea of doubt around her.

She is completely unwilling to accept the cruel truth that she has been rejected by her own party.
She was first lady, for cryin'' out loud! She is the queen of this party!
No one she trusts has the courage to tell her she''s done, much less force her into the car to take her home.

So on we march, scandal after scandal, contest after contest, hoping with each one that she finally accepts what everyone else began realizing long ago.

And the certainty with which she recalled all that sniper fire raining down on her as she ran out after landing in Bosnia 12 years ago convinced others that she''s nearly gone out of her mind.

She has become disassociated from reality leading many to believe she''s staying in the race only to damage Obama so badly that he can''t win in November, thus leaving the Democratic ticket open for her to run again in 2012.
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by obama8years March 31, 2008 7:56 AM PDT
youtube.com/watch?v=LIe4d9Nmg9k

Obama is backing muslim extremist!

badbarack.org

obamatruth.org

OBAMA TIES TO HAMAS

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency today reports that the Wright, Jr., long-time pastor of Obama, published an op-ed piece signed by a Hamas leader. The item appeared in the July 22, 2007 edition of his Trinity United Church newspaper on the "Pastor''''''''''''''''s Page." Justifies attacks on Israeli civilians, and carries a supporting introduction by Mr. Wright.

Obama issued a statement strongly condemning these views of his pastor. "I certainly wasnt in church when that outrageously wrong [Hamas] piece was re-printed in the bulletin.


Obama is a long-time member of Trinity United, and his financial contributions to his church are reported to be substantial ("All told, the [Obama] couple gave $27,500 to [Trinity United] in 2005 and 2006," according to the New York Times of March 26). His moral support to the church has been unwavering. As more and more and more details of the extremist political positions of the church are revealed, Obamas response has been to distance himself from these, but also to repeat, over and over, that he didn''''''''''''''''t know, that he wasn''''''''''''''''t there.

I find it very difficult to believe that an intelligent, energetic, and very political man like Obama is perpetually ignorant about what goes on in the church to which he devotes so many of his resources. If he does get to the White House....
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by jockh March 31, 2008 8:00 AM PDT
Hillary makes ridiculous claims that she is tried and tested in over 80 countries. As the wife of a visiting US President her visits were mainly ceremonial and she drank a lot of tea but never negotiated anything, in fact she did not even have security clearance. By Hillarys childlike reasoning this means Laura Bush is also tried and tested to be President or that the wife of a brain surgeon is qualified to operate on people!.
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by stn_sage March 31, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
jockh - your post fairly accurately describes the situation. And I agree with the conclusion you & craigh9 reach---essentially, she''s trying to hurt Obama''s chances of winning and set herself up for 2012!
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by efarris38 March 31, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
You know Im sitting here in Nashville and it is raining this morning and thought of this issue......and please respond anyone at CBS News or around the country if you will.....what is the point of states like Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina voting or even having a primary if we are simply going to tell voters..."Well it is a very close race but candidate A is ahead by 200,000 votes so the other candidate needs to quit". That is the most ridiculous thing I''ve ever heard. The problem with this election isn''t the candidates but our system for electiong the candidates. I think this race has been close and tight enough to let things run through June 3rd and let EVERYONE in the country have their say. This is a democracy. The only two people making any sense are House Speaker Pelosi and Vice Pres Gore, they are saying what Im thinking, let things take their course and let everyone speak. THIS IS AMERICA folks! We have seen Democratic turnout double in this election. That is impressive. Let''s let the people of the Great State of Pennsylvania speak and go from there and then Indiana etc..... We can''t discount any registered voter in the country. The media needs to SLOW DOWN and take a breath. We will be okay!! Thanks, Eddie in Nashville, Tn
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by crater7 March 31, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
CAN ANYONE OF YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS, PLEASE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OBAMA HAS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE SENATE? PLEASE GIVE FACTS, AND NOT "JUST WORDS."


GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT " G D AMERICA."
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by blkpresident March 31, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
Somewhere in NY a neglected kitchen stove needs a woman''s touch. Time for someone to don her apon and clean it.

PA., send lil'' missy home.
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by walker1209 March 31, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
TO BLKPRESIDENT:
YOU SOUND LIKE AN IGNORANT, SEXIST, JERK. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY THINK THAT YOU ARE CLEVER, BUT GET OVER YOURSELF AND GET A GRIP ON LIFE!!!
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by crater7 March 31, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
HMMMMMMMMMMM !!!!
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
I just laughed out loud reading this. If the numbers were opposite the Clinton''''s would be screaming at the top of their oungs and calling in every favor they could to get Obama to drop out. But since the shoe is on the other foot they say "chill out" - ridiculous, they are killing the party chances and they know it - and what''''s worse, they don''''t care because it will make it an easier run for them in 2012 because there won''''t be a sitting democratic president.


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Posted by craigh9 at 07:51 AM : Mar 31, 2008

She needs to stay in.It is better for Obama in the long run.If it goes all the way and Hillary is defeated,it gives the Clinton voters nothing to whine about,and most of them will vote for Obama.In the meantime,her antics take the heat off Obama,and when she does lose,we get the added bonus of her looking like the biggest jackass that ever lived.If she goes all the way,it will finish her chances of ever being president,and may even end her career as a senator.
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by walker1209 March 31, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
WHY IS EVERYONE SO ANXIOUS TO HAVE HER PULL OUT IF BARACK THE MAGNIFICANT IS SO FAR AHEAD!!! FACT IS THAT NEITHER HAS THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF DELEGATES TO TAKE THIS THING OUTRIGHT - SO FOLKS SIT BACK AND LET THINGS PLAY OUT THE WAY THEY SHOULD. COULD IT BE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO FEEL THE HEAT?

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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
Something else I heard this morning,her campaign is 8.7 million in the hole,LOL!She can''t get anyone to donate since she is already being perceived as the loser.I think her Bosnia fabrications may have done her in.
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
WHY IS EVERYONE SO ANXIOUS TO HAVE HER PULL OUT IF BARACK THE MAGNIFICANT IS SO FAR AHEAD!!! FACT IS THAT NEITHER HAS THE REQUISITE NUMBER OF DELEGATES TO TAKE THIS THING OUTRIGHT - SO FOLKS SIT BACK AND LET THINGS PLAY OUT THE WAY THEY SHOULD. COULD IT BE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO FEEL THE HEAT?




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Posted by walker1209 at 08:41 AM : Mar 31, 2008

She needs to stay in.It is better for Obama in the long run.If it goes all the way and Hillary is defeated,it gives the Clinton voters nothing to whine about,and most of them will vote for Obama.In the meantime,her antics take the heat off Obama,and when she does lose,we get the added bonus of her looking like the biggest jackass that ever lived.If she goes all the way,it will finish her chances of ever being president,and may even end her career as a senator.
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
Posted by craigh9 at 07:51 AM : Mar 31, 2008

What do you think Obama''s people have been doing? Screeching like banshees!
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by omega39-2009 March 31, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
She needs to stay in.It is better for Obama in the long run.If it goes all the way and Hillary is defeated,it gives the Clinton voters nothing to whine about,and most of them will vote for Obama.
Posted by jesterbelle

I disagree, I think the longer people have a stake in this election the harder it is going to be to let go and vote for their opponent (even if Hil or Obama voice their support) Just my opinion though.
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by pepperwood2 March 31, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
The Old Guard is alive & well here in Pa. As Rendell has put it - Obama is out of line & doesn''t know his place. We will show him in Pa. Go Hillary - Go Rendell. We love ya!
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by perceptions5 March 31, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
The Democrats need Rove because they don''t have a brain.

How could any party in any country of the world NOT count the votes of two of it''s "official states", Michigan and Florida.

When this whole thing was going down and states were moving their dates around all the DNC and Howard Dean had to say was:

"We''ll do it the same way as the Republicans".

But he didn''t and what a shame................dumb dumb Dems!
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
Posted by walker1209 at 08:41 AM : Mar 31, 2008

They''re all screeching for an easy win for Obama. They don''t think he should have to earn it.

The Obamabots don''t get it that Hillary has as much support as Obama does in popular votes.

Yet they''ll scream like crazy that the superdelegates can''t go against the will of the people.

The good news is that Ted Kennedy and Gov. Richardson went against the will of the people in their own states. This paves the way for the other superdelegates to vote however they want to.

The should go all the way to the convention when they seat Michigan and Florida.
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by gypsy0126 March 31, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
Last calculation of the delegates and the popular vote is that Obama leads in delegates by 125; and leads Clinton in the popular vote, .99%. Of course the media won''t specifically say, and continues to promote the idea that he is ahead of her but how slim, you don''t know until you do the math yourself. Now you add MI and FL in there, and what would he lead? Obama has not swept the nation, nor taken the country by storm. Obama and his camp need to remember that Obama is not running for the Illinois Senate, with a weak opponent, Allan Keyes. He is running against Senator Clinton. I certainly feel better now that Obama said on the campaign trail that she can stay in the race. How generous. In the meantime, he has made an entire commercial with the Obama girl, telling Clinton to get out of the race. Just another example of Obama saying one thing on the campaign trail and another behind the scenes.
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
Continued from above.

Hillary will look like the sillyest person in history to everyone if it goes all the way to the convention and she loses.She is already perceived as being harmful to the party,and when you total it all up,it could very well end her career,and we''''''''''''''''d never have to put up with her again.Me,I''''''''''''''''m pulling for Hillary now.I want her to keep on with her blundering and take it all the way to the convention.Her lying and exagerations seem to be her Achilles'''''''''''''''' heel.It has brought her down in the polls to where her negative numbers outweigh the positive.We need to keep stressing these points to prevent her from duping the uninformed and undecided.She needs to lose,lose,lose,and keep on with her inane persistance.This will ruin her chance of ever being president,and hopefully make her such an embarassment to the people of New York,and the democratic party,that nobody will elect her to anything.Hillary needs to go on to her ultimate destruction and political ruin.


Morning honey!Just for you,LOL!
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 9:05 AM PDT
OBAMA PEOPLE:WHY HILLARY SHOULD STAY IN THE RACE

The Clinton people are right about Hillary needing to stay in the race.In fact,it could end up being one of the best things that ever happened to the democratic party.To get rid of the Clintons once and for all.She is already losing on every front that counts inspite of what some people say.The longer she stays in,the more it distracts attention from Obamas'''''''''''''''' problems.As she goes on with her futile struggle,the more people will get fed up with her,and there''''''''''''''''s a better than 50/50 chance that she or Bill will end up making more blunders,since neither one of them can keep their mouths shut.Obama has more than proven that he can handle her attacks,and even beat her at her own game.If it goes through the whole process,and Obama wins,the Clinton people have nothing to whine about,and most will still vote for Obama.The rest that threaten to vote for McCain will be insignificant,and shouldn''''''''''''''''t make any difference in the outcome of the general election.-----Continued below.



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by craigh9 March 31, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
Somewhere in NY a neglected kitchen stove needs a woman''''s touch. Time for someone to don her apon and clean it.

PA., send lil'''' missy home.

Posted by BLKPRESIDENT at 08:32 AM : Mar 31, 2008

Not NY

She wasn''t born here, rasied here, educated here, and really has never lived here - another testament to the lengths she will go to suit her own needs. She has absolutely no vested interest in NY, she came her because the back room political bosses owed her husband and she needed to be a senator to run for president. She''s a carpetbagger through and through!
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 9:13 AM PDT
Posted by Gypsy0126 at 09:03 AM : Mar 31, 2008

Well said!

Every time Obama takes a stance, then he proves himself a liar and does just the opposite.
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by mike71067 March 31, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
As a Republican, this is going exactly how I like it.
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by crater7 March 31, 2008 9:17 AM PDT
jesterbelle; Obama people,. Why Hillary should stay in the race:

jesterbelle, THIS MUST BE YOUR FAVORITE COMMENT, AND IT''S OBVIOUS THAT YOU THINK HIGHLY OF IT. BUT ! MAYBE, YOU COULD ASK THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IF YOU CAN RECIEVE ANOTHER MEMO, WITH AN ATTACHED, NEW COMMENT?

WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEW, AND ORIGINAL COMMENT.

GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT " G D AMERICA."
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
Obama''s right up there with Bush''s 935 lies.
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
The should go all the way to the convention when they seat Michigan and Florida.


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 08:52 AM : Mar 31, 2008

I think they are going to seat the delegates.Donna Brazille,who is a member of the credentials commitee has said as much.She also said that they would probably either split the delegates between the two candidates,or penalize the states by taking half away.She also implied that Hill was just trying to drum up some cash with her "take it all the way to the convention" baloney,that it would never happen.They also reported that the Hillsters'' campaign is 8.7 million in the hole.Looks like the bill collectors may be coming to get her car,LOL!Seriously though,I hope she can stay in and lose.

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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
Obama''''s right up there with Bush''''s 935 lies.


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:18 AM : Mar 31, 2008

Not bad!Neither compares to Hill though.She''s in the Guiness book of world records!
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
Posted by jesterbelle at 09:21 AM : Mar 31, 2008

Nahhhhhhh, you''ll buy anything the media feeds you. I''d have to see the books on that one.

The thing is, Obama broke the DNC rules in both Florida and Michigan. If they give him any of those votes or delegates, there will be hell to pay and it won''t be a fair win.
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by rowdytexan2 March 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
Not bad!Neither compares to Hill though.She''''s in the Guiness book of world records!



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Posted by jesterbelle at 09:23 AM : Mar 31, 2008

Nahhhhhh, Obama''s lies are about real issues, not putzed up distorting of words like he''s based his whole campaign on.
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by jesterbelle March 31, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
The thing is, Obama broke the DNC rules in both Florida and Michigan. If they give him any of those votes or delegates, there will be hell to pay and it won''''t be a fair win.


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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:25 AM : Mar 31, 2008

I''m just telling you what I heard.
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