NEW YORK, March 28, 2008
Candidates (All Of Them) Woo Bloomberg
Obama, Clinton, McCain Seek Endorsement From Independent New York City Mayor
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After Bloomberg declared a month ago that he isn't running but might back another candidate with his wealth and support, Obama has mounted what appears to be the most aggressive effort to woo the billionaire.
Aides to the mayor and senator said he was the first to call after Bloomberg's announcement, and Obama phoned again this week to ask the mayor to give an introduction before his speech on the economy in Manhattan, and to review the text of the speech.
Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican John McCain have both called Bloomberg since he dangled the possibility of an endorsement, but have not met with the Democrat-turned-Republican-turned-independent. Aides to both Clinton and Bloomberg say the senator and mayor are trying to work out a time to get together soon.
After Bloomberg's introduction Thursday, the Illinois Democratic senator heaped praise on the mayor, applauding his "extraordinary leadership."
"At a time when Washington is divided in old ideological battles, he shows us what can be achieved when we bring people together to seek pragmatic solutions," Obama said.
"Mr. Mayor," he added a moment later, "I share your determination to bring this country together to finally make progress for the American people."
During his address, Obama highlighted the importance of investor confidence in the market - a priority for Bloomberg - as well as tighter regulations on Wall Street, something that Bloomberg has argued against.
Obama said the next president should expand oversight to any institution that borrows from the government; toughen capital requirements for complex financial instruments like mortgage securities; and crack down on trading activity that "crosses the line" to market manipulation.
Bloomberg, who worked on Wall Street before he founded his multibillion dollar financial information company, has said America's regulatory atmosphere is already so burdensome that it scares companies into taking business overseas.
When he introduced Obama, Bloomberg predicted that not everyone "will agree with every idea, myself included."
"But it is critical that we know exactly where each candidate stands as we make perhaps the most important decision of our lives next November," he said.
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Later Thursday, Obama found time during a radio interview to praise Bloomberg's proposal to levy a toll on drivers in parts of Manhattan as a way to cut traffic and pollution. If the proposal isn't approved by the state Legislature before April 7, the city stands to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding that would help get it going.It is critical that we know exactly where each candidate stands as we make perhaps the most important decision of our lives.
Mayor Michael BloombergBloomberg has had less interaction with Clinton and McCain in the last month, but he has known them longer.
McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, endorsed Bloomberg in 2001 when the billionaire was running for mayor as a businessman with no political experience - a long shot campaign when it began. They are also social friends, and Bloomberg hosted a fundraiser at his Manhattan home for McCain in 2003.
McCain called Bloomberg to chat earlier this month, about a week after Bloomberg announced he would not run.
Clinton was the last to call, and aides say they are trying to set up a meeting.
A Clinton endorsement from Bloomberg might be a long shot. While they have worked well together as mayor and New York senator, there has been lingering iciness between them ever since 2005, when he was running for re-election - still a Republican - and asked her to endorse him. She backed his Democratic opponent instead, who was not expected to win.
But Clinton may have an in with Bloomberg through her husband. The former president has become friendly with the mayor in recent years and has worked with him on climate change.
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Bloomberg must have been referring to tax rates, domestic labor and environmental standards, unions, etc. You can''t really operate investment banks and hedge funds overseas, which are the regulations of Barack''s the writer is referring to in this piece.
In the mother of STOOOOOOOPID economic plans. Hillary now says she will cap the costs of her UHC at 5 to 10% of income. Gee--THINK everyone. that means your taxes will go up 5 to 10%. The government does not increase like that in any given year. This would mean if you make 60K per year, you could look forward to paying as much as 6000.00 for what you may get already under an employer for around 2500.00/year now.
Hilary and Bill do not need to pay for health care. As government workers they get that free--for fvcking life. If she didn''''t, under her plan, insurance for her and Bill could be what? about 240,000.00/yr?
For some of us and most of us--her plan would be a nightmare--and those who get insurance through work can kiss that system goodbye. You''''d get it from the good ol'''' government..you know the ones who are destroying SS now, because they repeatedly stole from it and never paid it back...the same who say Medicare (the UHC already in place for the elderly) is almost bankrupt and will be not able to be paid from monies taken in by 2017...you know the one where there is rampant corruption, stealing, graft and greed--well they will have found a new way to tax us all and claim they raised no new taxes. Up to 10% of your income?
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Bet businesses LOVE that--but will YOU? 10% for some of us will mean going from paying about 4K per year now to paying almost 20K per year based on NET only!!!
Now--why should someone pay 20K per year for the same health care that another pays maybe 1300.00 for? Because they make more, their health care should cost more? Spare me---this woman is a sick azz menace besides being a liar whose contribution to Ireland was an empty park whose "peace playground" was shelveda nd who finally NOW ADMITS she had nothing to do with negotiations in Ireland. Big fat liar. Add to that Big fat mf, greedy liar. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/us/pol
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Posted by b-easy63 at 08:33 AM : Mar 28, 2008
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What BS!
Hillary finally admits she did NOT help negotiate peace after the PM of Ireland said she was not at any negotiations tables. Sorry, I don''''''''t want a leader who lies sooo much, we have to wait for others to catch on or eventually tell us what really happened to know what they have been up to.
The real question is--NOT Hillary''''''''s 35 years of fake experience--but what has she NOT lied about or embellished in the past 35 years. Given she appears to be a pathological liar--I think the answer will be--NOT MUCH
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What BS!
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:06 AM : Mar 28, 2008
Hillary has stated repeatedly that coverage will be mandatory ON HER GOVERNMENT PLAN. It is not an option it will be the ONLY WAY. Any additional coverage will be extra, we will all pay the 5 to 10% whether we use the gov. plan or not. Hillary shill.
What BS! John Hume, one of the architects of the Northern Ireland peace agreement, himself has praised Hillary''s efforts in organizing women to present their case in the peace efforts.
Quit lying, B-Easy.
What BS!
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:06 AM : Mar 28, 2008
Hillary has stated repeatedly that coverage will be mandatory ON HER GOVERNMENT PLAN. It is not an option it will be the ONLY WAY. Any additional coverage will be extra, we will all pay the 5 to 10% whether we use the gov. plan or not. Hillary shill.
Posted by b-easy63 at 09:13 AM : Mar 28, 2008
In fact, Hillary has stated HER GOVERNMENT plan MUST be one everyone has to be on, or it would not work. ONLY Obama is giving the option of using the government plan or allowing people to find alternate plans. Hillary says her way, and if people don''t she will take it (as in wage garnishment or auto payments)
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Posted by b-easy63 at 09:13 AM : Mar 28, 2008
That is total hogwarsh! There''s a dozen ways in her plan that you can get insurance coverage! Including keeping the coverage you already have!
You continue to swill lies.
What BS! John Hume, one of the architects of the Northern Ireland peace agreement, himself has praised Hillary''''s efforts in organizing women to present their case in the peace efforts.
Quit lying, B-Easy.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:14 AM : Mar 28, 2008
Think you better check out that link which is an article on CBS posted today. In it, your Hillary admits she NEVER sat down at the negotiating table.
She SAYS it!!!!!
Here we go again, you defending Hillary (like saying she really DID run from snipers in Bosnia despite the video showing no such thing) and she turning out to make YOU look like a fool--though you don''t really need much help in that department. Here''s the link again. And I hope all who read this go to it so we know who the real liar on this board continually is--You, Rowdy, you. Because you lie like Hillary. Congenital? LOL
The link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/28/ap/politics/main3976527.
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Hillary''s plan offers tax credits to help you pay for your insurance, after insurance companies are regulated into affordable rates and better coverage which will allow you to take your insurance plan anywhere.
B-Easy, no wonder this country is in such chaos, when people like you swill total inaccuracies and lies.
All she ever said was that she helped in organizing for it. Which is exactly what John Hume praises her for.
Hillary''''s plan offers tax credits to help you pay for your insurance, after insurance companies are regulated into affordable rates and better coverage which will allow you to take your insurance plan anywhere.
B-Easy, no wonder this country is in such chaos, when people like you swill total inaccuracies and lies.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:19 AM : Mar 28, 2008
I never spoke on her tax credits at all, I talked about her premise of 5 to 10% of income, which for you probably means free since you come across as a lonely, old, bitter, spinster, indigent.
TAx credit maxes out after certain incomes. But you digress--you say she negotiated peace in Ireland? Hillary now admits she was NOT a negotiator. Big stretch for her--guess the PM denying she was at the table--sort of clinched it--now...see if you can stop lying to defend her.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:22 AM : Mar 28, 2008
He says she contributed, so did every maid and butler who was there. They served tea, Hillary was there smiling at and talking to ladies--oh...yeah--she drank the tea served to her too. That was about the limit of her contribution, a few lady''s luncheons and helping plant a tree in a park labeled the "peace playground" which still sits empty with no playground to this very day. LMAO. But spin away rowdy--after all, you are the one that said there was sniper fire in the hills (and that was good enough) and despite the video of Hillary meeting and greeting ...according to you, she did not lie--and she did run for cover.
We just put that up there with rest of your lying to the end, stratgy for defending your lying candidate.
I guess all the maids and butlers were experts on exactly what was going on in those meetings.
Give me a break!
Your calling anyone else a liar is just a little too much the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:22 AM : Mar 28, 2008
Are we talking about the Ireland peace process? Will you please pull that quote where anyone says Hillary helped to organize the peace process? That is not what was said and you know it.
Are you so much like Hillary that you believe no one will go to the link and read the article for themself?
Once again, folks: "Lying Hillary, AND the lying liars who support her" brought to you by RowdyTexan2. rotflmao
You are pitiful, girl.
"She was in charge of christening this wee corner (of the park) as some kind of peace playground. It never made any sense then, and there''s nothing there today," said Brian Feeney, a Belfast political analyst, author and teacher. "Everything she did was for the optics."
Critics say the playground-that-never-was illustrates the wider lack of accomplishment from Clinton''s half-dozen visits to Northern Ireland _ that they emphasized speechmaking, chiefly to women''s groups, leaving no lasting mark.
Clinton twice addressed audiences of schoolchildren at Belfast''s Musgrave Park, in September 1998 and May 1999. She declared that Protestant and Catholic youths must learn to play together but needed a safe place to do it _ and helped plant a tree on the spot where a special cross-community playground would be created. Belfast did have other parks.
Nearly a decade later, Musgrave Park remains as it was: a well-groomed, rather lonely place sandwiched between a hospital and a highway, where adults jog and walk their dogs amid birdsong and spring flowers. The Belfast group touting the "Play for Peace Fund" silently shelved the idea within months although Clinton often referred to the project as an inspiration to a divided world." NEXT POST
"Women ... were persistent in the process ... (Clinton) came back to Ireland time and time again to be with them, to hear them out, to hear about the progress they were making," said Melanne Verveer, a Clinton aide who now works on the campaign.
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Clinton has described herself as a catalyst for bringing Catholics and Protestants together, even though these activists regularly were meeting each other at many forums by the mid-1990s.
A political party established in 1996 to promote women in politics, the Northern Ireland Women''s Coalition, drew inspiration from Hillary Clinton''s words and example. Voters weren''t as convinced; the party folded in 2006 after all its candidates lost in two straight elections.
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Clinton''s longtime claims to have played a difference-making role in Northern Ireland attracted no criticism until the buildup to St. Patrick''s Day this year. To some ears, her most recent comments have raised a false impression that she helped produce the landmark Good Friday peace accord of 1998.
Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern came to Clinton''s defense, meeting with the senator in Washington _ and making his first phone call to Obama.
"I think for anyone to try to question the Clintons'' huge support (for Ireland) and start trying to nitpick and saying, ''But she wasn''t sitting down at the negotiation table'' _ sure, we know she wasn''t sitting down at the negotiation table," Ahern said.
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After suffering criticism from rival Obama''s campaign and Protestant politicians in Northern Ireland, Clinton this month backed off language that suggested she was ever involved in the 22 months of negotiations that preceded the Good Friday pact.
But Clinton still suggests that she wielded a hidden hand over the diplomatic triumph.
"I wasn''t sitting at the negotiating table, but the role I played was instrumental," she said in a March 13 interview with National Public Radio.
Your calling anyone else a liar is just a little too much the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 09:31 AM : Mar 28, 2008
Is it? I''ve challenged you and others for days now, to post even ONE lie I wrote and you cannot. You just throw the "liar" word around when you are the one continually telling lies. From saying I wrote you were fat and then refusing to produce the post, to saying I lied about Hillary saying she and McCain were fit to be CIC, to my posting that Hillary lied in Bosnia--you throw the words around that each of my statements are lies and when I provide the links to support my posts, you claim I did not hear it straight from the candidate herself so they must be lies. You appear to be delusional. Neither Clinton or anyone of the same unstable mindset needs to be in power and control the country right now--things are waaaay too critical to place either a liar or her cohorts at the controls with our needs being so dire!!
They say zoloft might help a condition such as yours--at least it can help the depression/bitterness part. I''m afraid your lying problem is something you will have to sort out on your own. In the meantime, we all know you are a liar, so we will read what you post with large grains of salt. ROTFLMAO.
Judging from what is coming out about her "experiences" we can probably say with some accuracy, that one thing she probably has consistently been doing for 35 years is lying.....a LOT. ROTFLMAO
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Yep. I was in Ireland myself in 1994 and again in 1999, besides visiting a lot of sites and strolling through some parks, I can''''t claim much else...say--wait a minute!! I bought lots of souvineers while I was there. I think I will claim that I helped to make Ireland economically solvent and helped to end their recession. Yep. LMAO
any pensillvannians here comments pls ..
we know that CLINTONS have no moral, if they had , surely wud have dropped out after bosnia sniper..
but to all americans here " are we blind ? aren''t any elligible person in maerica to lead the country? and only see CLINTONS and BUSHS even though we know they lied " ...
Herllo Clintons - IS this the way to show patriotism?
dont give excuses that OBAMA is also a lier ..
I hear WRIGHT clapping.
I feel so bad for our country
I feel so bad for our country
Hillary will look like the stupidest person in history to everyone if it goes all the way to the convention and she loses,although most of us already know she is stupid,LOL.She is already perceived as being harmful to the party,and when you total it all up,it could very well end her career,and we''''d never have to put up with her again.Me,I''''m pulling for Hillary now.I want her to keep on with her blundering and take it all the way to the convention.Lose,lose,lose,and keep on with your idiotic persistance.Ruin your chance for ever being president,and make yourself so much of a laughingstock that New York is ashamed of you,LOL!Go Hillary!On to your ultimate destruction and political ruin!Hillary in...well,never.LOL!
I''''m beginning to think Rowdy and the other Clinton people are right about Hillary needing to stay in the race.In fact,it could end up being one of the best things that ever happened to the democratic party.To get rid of the Clintons once and for all.She is already losing on every front that counts inspite of what some people say.The longer she stays in,the more it distracts attention from Obamas'''' so called racism/anti-americanism,the more people get fed up with her,and there''''s a better than 50/50 chance that she or Bill will end up making more blunders,since neither one of them can keep their mouths shut.Obama has more than proven that he can handle her attacks,and even beat her at her own game.If it goes through the whole process,and Obama wins,the Hillary Krishnas have nothing to whine about,and most will still vote for Obama.The rest that threaten to vote for McCain will be insignificant,and shouldn''''t make any difference in the outcome.-----Continued below.
I find it very difficult to believe that an intelligent, energetic, and very political man like Obama is perpetually ignorant about what goes on in the church to which he devotes so many of his resources. If he does get to the White House, will he be in similar ignorance about the goings on of his administration ?
Barak Obama issued a statement strongly condemning these views of his pastor. "I certainly wasn%u2019t in church when that outrageously wrong [Hamas] piece was re-printed in the bulletin,%u201D Obama added.
Hillary will look like the stupidest person in history to everyone if it goes all the way to the convention and she loses,although most of us already know she is stupid,LOL.She is already perceived as being harmful to the party,and when you total it all up,it could very well end her career,and we''''''''d never have to put up with her again.Me,I''''''''m pulling for Hillary now.I want her to keep on with her blundering and take it all the way to the convention.Lose,lose,lose,and keep on with your idiotic persistance.Ruin your chance for ever being president,and make yourself so much of a laughingstock that New York is ashamed of you,LOL!Go Hillary!On to your ultimate destruction and political ruin!Hillary in...well,never.LOL!
I''''''''m beginning to think Rowdy and the other Clinton people are right about Hillary needing to stay in the race.In fact,it could end up being one of the best things that ever happened to the democratic party.To get rid of the Clintons once and for all.She is already losing on every front that counts inspite of what some people say.The longer she stays in,the more it distracts attention from Obamas'''''''' so called racism/anti-americanism,the more people get fed up with her,and there''''''''s a better than 50/50 chance that she or Bill will end up making more blunders,since neither one of them can keep their mouths shut.Obama has more than proven that he can handle her attacks,and even beat her at her own game.If it goes through the whole process,and Obama wins,the Hillary Krishnas have nothing to whine about,and most will still vote for Obama.The rest that threaten to vote for McCain will be insignificant,and shouldn''''''''t make any difference in the outcome.-----Continued below.
The Jewish Telegraphic Agency today reports that the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr., long-time pastor of Barak Obama, published an op-ed piece signed by a Hamas leader. The item appeared in the July 22, 2007 edition of his Trinity United Church newspaper on the "Pastors Page." The op-ed piece justifies attacks on Israeli civilians, and carries a supporting introduction by Wright.
Barak Obama issued a statement strongly condemning these views of his pastor. "I certainly wasn%u2019t in church when that outrageously wrong [Hamas] piece was re-printed in the bulletin,%u201D Obama added.
Obama is a long-time member of Trinity United, and his financial contributions to his church are reported to be substantial ("All told, the [Obama] couple gave $27,500 to [Trinity United] in 2005 and 2006," according to the New York Times of March 26). His moral support to the church has been unwavering. As more and more and more details of the extremist political positions of the church are revealed, Obama''s response has been to distance himself from these, but also to repeat, over and over, that he didn''t know, that he wasn''t there.
I find it very difficult to believe that an intelligent, energetic, and very political man like Obama is perpetually ignorant about what goes on in the church to which he devotes so many of his resources. If he does get to the White House, will he be in similar ignorance about the goings on of his administration ?
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by obama8years
March 29, 2008 1:25 PM PDT
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
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See all 44 CommentsObama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
He sponsors the Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the %u201CHalal Food Act,%u201D providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
The most horrifying thing out of all this is his child hatred. He not only supports abortion; he supports partial birth abortion. He supports leaving a surviving baby to his/her death if he or she fights for life after being subjected to the atrocities of the abortion clinic.
Of course it%u2019s all bad and there%u2019s lots more at the source.
This is an incredibly bad person with a smile like an angel. BEWARE.