Two-Front War Strains Putting U.S. At Risk

Military Tells Bush That Troops Sent To Iraq For Surge May Be Needed In Afghanistan

(CBS/AP)  Faced with the demands of fighting a two-front war, the Joint Chiefs warned President Bush Wednesday that more U.S. troops may soon be needed in Afghanistan, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin.

But reinforcements would have to come out of troop levels in Iraq, leaving the president with a stark choice of pulling too many troops out of Iraq or putting too few into Afghanistan. The chiefs also told the president the two-front war has created a significant risk of not having enough forces to respond to other crises.

The chiefs endorsed the recommendation of Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, that there should be a several-week pause in withdrawals when the surge ends this July and American troop levels are down to 140,000, Martin reports.

That will allow the Army to end its 15-month combat tours and go back to slightly less-punishing 12-month deployments. But neither the chiefs nor Petraeus are willing to make any commitment to further withdrawals. And the president agrees.

"We have learned through hard experience what happens when we pull our forces back too fast," he said.

But Afghanistan, where there are nearly 60,000 NATO troops, 31,000 of them American, is facing rising levels of violence, and the top commander there has warned the Pentagon he may send out a call for reinforcements.

"We have to assume that at least half of the reinforcements are going to have to come from the U.S.," Former Special Envoy to Afghanistan James Dobbins said.

With or without more troop withdrawals from Iraq, there will be no let up in the pace of combat operations for the remainder of the Bush presidency, Martin reports.

In the war zone itself, two more American soldiers were killed Wednesday in separate attacks in Baghdad, raising the U.S. death toll to at least 4,003, according to an Associated Press count. Volleys of rockets also slammed into Baghdad's Green Zone for the third day this week, and the U.S. Embassy said three Americans were seriously wounded. At least eight Iraqis were killed elsewhere in the capital by rounds that apparently fell short.

Wednesday's 90-minute Pentagon session, held in a secure conference room known as "the Tank," was arranged by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to provide Mr. Bush an additional set of military views as he prepares to decide how to proceed in Iraq once his troop buildup, which began in 2007, runs its course by July.

"Armed with all that, the president must now decide the way ahead in Iraq," said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell. The discussion covered Iraq and Afghanistan, where violence has spiked, and broader military matters, said Morrell, who briefed reporters without giving details of the discussion. Some specifics were provided by defense officials, commenting on condition of anonymity in order to speak more freely.

The Joint Chiefs are particularly concerned about Afghanistan and an increasingly active Taliban insurgency.

The United States has about 31,000 troops in Afghanistan and 156,000 in Iraq.

U.S. forces in Iraq peaked at 20 brigades last year and are to be cut to 15 brigades, with a total of about 140,000 combat and support troops, by the end of July. A key question facing Mr. Bush is whether security conditions will have improved sufficiently by then to justify more reductions.

One of the leading advocates of Mr. Bush's troop buildup last year, military historian Frederick Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute, said in an interview Wednesday that security conditions in Iraq, while better, are not good enough to justify any commitment to troop reductions beyond July.

"The military reality is that it's virtually inconceivable that it will make sense to draw down below 15 brigades this year," Kagan said.

Gates has said he would like to see the total drop to 10 brigades by the end of this year, but that now looks unlikely.

Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, has argued that it would be reckless to shrink the American force so rapidly that the gains achieved over the past year are compromised or lost entirely.

Mr. Bush is expected to endorse Petraeus' approach. If, as expected, Petraeus is given until August or September to weigh the effects of the current round of reductions, then it is unlikely that the force would get much below 15 brigades by the time Mr. Bush leaves office in January.

Mr. Bush is unlikely to announce his decision until after Petraeus and the top U.S. diplomat in Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, return to Washington next month to report to Congress.

The Joint Chiefs, who do not command troops but are legally responsible for ensuring the fitness of the forces they provide to commanders, have grown increasingly concerned that the weight of five-plus years of war in Iraq could create severe, long-term problems, particularly for the Army and Marine Corps.

In their session with Mr. Bush, the chiefs laid out their concerns about the health of the U.S. force, several defense officials said. Mr. Bush was accompanied by his chief of staff, Joshua Bolten; his national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"The conversations today with the Joint Chiefs were much broader than just Iraq," Hadley said later. "It was a step-back look of what are the challenges we face here in the next decade."

A senior administration official said the chiefs generally are in sync with Petraeus on slowing the pace of troop reductions.

Morrell said Mr. Bush is "constantly asking the Joint Chiefs about the health of the force, about retention rates, about family life, and so that was a large part of the conversation today."

The session was led by Navy Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He presented the consensus view of the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps on Iraq strategy.

Mullen and Gates have said repeatedly that in addition to reducing troop levels in Iraq, they want to shorten tour lengths for soldiers from 15 months to 12 months as soon as possible. A decision to do that is expected, perhaps shortly after Bush reaffirms that the number brigades in Iraq will be cut to 15 by July. The Army calculates that at that point it could drop tours to 12 months and still give units at least 12 months at home to recover, retrain and rearm before deploying again.

Morrell said a decision on shortening tour lengths would be made by Gates in consultation with Bush.

"We are not there yet," Morrell said.

Shortly after they Petraeus and Crocker reported to Congress last September, Mr. Bush announced the decision to reduce the number of combat brigades from 20 to 15.

At the time, Petraeus said additional cuts would be made but that he needed to wait until this spring to recommend a timetable. Since September, violence in Iraq has ebbed and U.S. and Iraqi casualties have declined markedly, although violence has jumped in recent weeks.

The president is to give a speech Thursday in Ohio on the political and economic situation in Iraq.

[dmgenet]

And what is even funnier (LOL) is that they think they can take on Iran. It is amazing how so many intelligent people can make multiple mistakes. But we know that about the Bush admin and their bunker living group thinking right wing intelligensia. One hand on thier pocket book and the other hand on their ***.

[j-whitman]

underdogus,,,, Have you ever thunk your own lack of awareness is the cause of your jihad ??? ---- Enlist boy, & serve your country you can get a college education

[underdogus]

JWhitless aka JmuhammadWhitman..is a Jihadist supporter with the objective of providing awareness with regard to jihad...thank you J you''re a real American

[j-whitman]

JERSupporter,,,, Let me ask you this question to stray a bit from the topic ---- Why isn''t Israel helping us in Iraq or Afhaganistan ????

[j-whitman]

JERSupporter,,,, Do you even know what the JCS is ?? --- I''ll tell you what, wait untill July when the end of the Surge is complete - Then try to spin progress

[j-whitman]

uniformed and jaded JERSupporter,,,, This one point of view, as you call it happens to be the view of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

[getcentered]

"In other words, Senator Obama was correct, and the Red Bushies and their Fuhrer McCain/Bush 08 were wrong. See, you should do unilateral strikes into Pakistan!"

Hey, is this true? Did Obama in fact say that this would be his strategy?

If so I agree, because this region is not really under anyone%u2019s control. You send out the Marine recon teams to point lasers at targets, wait to see the enemy then call in the round. Simple, no one sees you, enemies dead.

[j-whitman]

JERSupporter,,,, "uniformed and jaded" ??? I''ve backed up my views with solid articles...
.. You can''t even describe a fraction of the problems Petreaus was having distributing weapons you made the false claim of working with.

[jersupporter]

JERSupporter,,,, I listen to the Generals on the ground, retired generals & former commanders, many troops who have been there, the SECDEF & the Joint Chiefs of Staff --- Not political hacks or posers. Posted by j-whitman
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LOL - you are the poser and now everyone on this message board knows that FACT. So cry me a river and continue to post your uniformed and jaded arguements.

[j-whitman]

JERSupporter,,,, I listen to the Generals on the ground, retired generals & former commanders, many troops who have been there, the SECDEF & the Joint Chiefs of Staff --- Not political hacks or posers.

[getcentered]

I don''t know if I can take anymore comments from our President. He and the people pulling his strings think Americans are dumb, and maybe some of us are, but I know what the word DEFICIT means and that''s what this country is in. A huge deficit. The dollar was matched againsts the euro 8 years ago. We are plain PRINTING money for Iraq!!

I know lets just print some more money.....AND THEN give it to the banks!! So they can loan us some money that we aren''t making from our jobs to help us pay for things like houses, which we will eventually defalt the payments on becaue the interest rates scyrocketed!! (because the country was in debt) Then our GOVERNEMNT bails out the banks!! Yea!! Rich people win!!!

A vote for McCain is like another 4 years of BUSH. Same string pullers%u2026%u2026%u2026

Vote for Democrats!!

[jersupporter]

Hey JERSupporter,
Minor point. Your best friends can become your worst enemies in a snapshot. Why? When their interests nolonger match your interests. I know the Iraqis are sick and tired of wars and want peace-no more bombs. As soon as a critical mass of Iraqis realizes they can get peace with the Americans out, we nolonger have friends in Iraq. Posted by lovegetpeace
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Agree that we do need to leave soon. Also, sillywilly4 - fully understand that JWhitman is nothing but an ignorant poster. Just wanted everyone to understand that JWhitman is exactly that. And it is quite obvious now. LOL

[jersupporter]

JERSupporter,,,, I haven''''t been to Iraq, & never claimed to have been there, I retired in 88 ----- You are a poser Posted by j-whitman
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Just as I thought never been there. So maybe you can now **** because you know nothing about the situation on the ground - perhaps you should listen to someone who has.

[j-whitman]

sillywilly4,,,,, Your screen name says it all

[lovegetpeace]

Hey JERSupporter,
Minor point. Your best friends can become your worst enemies in a snapshot. Why? When their interests nolonger match your interests. I know the Iraqis are sick and tired of wars and want peace-no more bombs. As soon as a critical mass of Iraqis realizes they can get peace with the Americans out, we nolonger have friends in Iraq.

[liberalme]

bobmarisol,,,, Bush & his family were friends of Ossama Bin Laden''''s family ----- OBL''''s own brother flew to & from Bush''''s ranch so many times they gave him Frequent Flier Miles

Posted by j-whitman at 01:10 PM : Mar

As a matter of fact---Daddy Bush was in a meeting with one of the Bin Laden family members the day of 911---coincidence?

[j-whitman]

JERSupporter,,,, I haven''t been to Iraq, & never claimed to have been there, I retired in 88 ----- You are a poser

[lovegetpeace]

Dear CBSNEWS,
Please replace this article title
FROM:
Two-Front War Strains Putting U.S. At Risk
TO:
Three-Front War Strains Putting U.S. At Risk

1) Afghanistan, 2)Iraq and 3) Pakistan.

[jersupporter]

Hey JERSupporter,
I respect your views and the unconditional service you have given to President Bush. I am not say to our nation because the majority of us Americans are definitely against this Iraq war.

Soon, you will have to leave not to Iraq but to Pakistan. Now, do you really believe we are winning this endless war on Terrorism or Al-Qaeda? If you conclude Americans are losing this expanding war, then lets sit down and work out a compromise. Otherwise, good luck in Pakistan with just a Volunteer Only US Troops. I am willing to compromise on the Draft with strick conditions. Posted by lovegetpeace
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Thank you sir. I too want the troops home, but we have to do it in an orderly fashion and not totally let our Iraqi friends down.

[lovegetpeace]

Folks,
The Soviet Union quit Afghanistan after 13 years of attempting everything against the Talibans.

Americans have 7 more years to go before leaving. So, be patience.