Protesters Disrupt Olympic Torch Ceremony

Officials Criticize Human Rights Activists, Exile Leaders Say Almost 140 Tibetans Now Killed

(CBS/AP)  Press freedom and pro-Tibet protesters disrupted Monday's flame-lighting ceremony for the Beijing Games and the early stages of the torch relay.

Police said four people had been detained, a Tibetan woman and three members of the Paris-based group Reporters Without Borders.

"This is a disgrace," said Lampis Nikolaou, a Greek member of the IOC. "I am furious with these people ... who did not respect this site. Whatever their differences with China, they should express them in their own countries."

The protests occurred despite heavy security at Ancient Olympia - birthplace of the games - where more than 1,000 police were deployed.

The three French protesters ran onto the stadium's field while Liu Qi, president of the Beijing Olympics organizing committee and Beijing Communist Party Secretary, was giving a speech. One of the men held a banner showing the Olympic rings as handcuffs.

"If the Olympic flame is sacred, human rights are even more so," the French group said in a statement. "We cannot let the Chinese government seize the Olympic flame, a symbol of peace, without denouncing the dramatic situation of human rights in the country."

Moments later, a Tibetan woman covered herself in red paint and lay in the road in front of a runner carrying the Olympic torch into the village of ancient Olympia, while other protesters chanted "Free Tibet" and "Shame on China."

The protesters came within a few yards of the torchbearer, who ran on the spot for about 10 seconds while police in plain clothes removed the female protester and a man holding up a Tibetan flag.

IOC president Jacques Rogge attended the ceremony, where the sun's rays were used to kindle the flame.

"It's always sad when there are protests. But they were not violent and I think that's the important thing," Rogge told The Associated Press.

The incidents came Rogge told The Associated Press in an interview that he was engaged in "silent diplomacy" with the Chinese but wouldn't intervene in politics to try to change their policies.

"We are discussing on a daily basis with Chinese authorities, including discussing these issues, while strictly respecting the sovereignty of China in its affairs," Rogge said.

The Greek government also denounced the incidents.

Reporters Without Borders identified its detained men as Robert Menard, the group's general secretary, Jean-Francois Juliard and Vincent Brossel.

"They are waiting for the prosecutor," spokeswoman Sanny Dumont told the AP. "They don't know if they will be released or charged. They have not been mistreated at all."

When the stadium incident took place, China state TV cut away to a prerecorded scene, preventing Chinese viewers from seeing the protest. Commentators on Chinese TV never mentioned what took place.

Protests are bound to follow the torch throughout its 136-day, 85,000-mile journey across five continents and 20 countries. China pledged strict security measures to ensure its segment of the relay won't be marred by protests. The route is to end at Beijing stadium on Aug. 8.

Tibetan activists have already said they plan to demonstrate elsewhere on the route.

"Later we will do protests in London and Paris," said Tenzin Dorjee, a member of Students for a Free Tibet who protested in Ancient Olympia.

Tibet's deadly protests started March 10 in the capital of Lhasa on the 49th anniversary of a failed uprising against Chinese rule. The demonstrations turned violent four days later, touching off demonstrations among Tibetans in three neighboring provinces.

Almost 140 people have been killed in demonstrations and a crackdown by China's government since the protests started, the main Tibetan exile group said late Monday.

The Tibetan government-in-exile in the northern Indian city of Dharmsala released a statement giving the names and details of 40 Tibetans killed since the protests started in Lhasa.

It said about 100 others also have been killed. The group's previous overall toll was 99 killed.

Beijing's official death toll from the protests in Lhasa is 22, including civilians killed in rioting and three Tibetan suspects who jumped to their deaths to avoid arrest.

"While we have confirmed information on the death toll from the demonstrations so far, it has been extremely difficult to get the details due to all the restrictions that have been imposed by Chinese authorities," the statement from the Tibetan government-in-exile said.

"As the demonstrations continue to spread vastly to many areas in Tibet, the number of people who have died from the brutal military and police suppression during the peaceful demonstrations is astounding," the statement said.

The riots and protests, the largest and most sustained in almost 20 years, have embarrassed and angered Beijing. They have also drawn attention to the country's human rights record ahead of the Beijing Olympics in August.

[stn_sage]

It was an interesting occurance which pitted citizen''s rights to free speech & protest against an organization & their right to hold their event!

For the organizers of the event, it''s unfortunate.

But, the protester''s point that the host nation is killing citizens of an adjoining country while being given the honor to host the Olympics and it''s actions are unworthy of such an honor, cannot be understated!

[killtheliars]

The U.S. should not even be participating in the Olympics if they are in china. We should not have relations diplomatic or economic with them. Their goods should not be sold in the U.S. and they should not be holding any of our debt.
The relationship between China and the U.S. clearly benifits China more, without our market they would not be able to grow nearly as fast as an economy. With their huge population the U.S. market is a must, all of these people are used for cheap labor which mean profit for China when the goods are purchased in the U.S. If we did not trade with China we could help turn thier huge population back to the disadvantage it used to be. If they don''''t need all of the people for cheap labor that means large numbers of unemployed that will have to depend on social services or perish.
Screw China, we in the U.S. need to look out for number 1.

[tucano2]

"Drop by drop fills the glass" - Billions living outside of China need only to spend a little less each month on "Made in China" goods and services, say, $10 to $20 each times 5 Billion of us each month till the Chinese economy is devastated, and China weakens it''s grip on Tibet. Create enough economic misery in China and there will be a change in government, likely leading to an implosion similar to that of the former USSR. Consistent pressure constantly applied will do wonders. Stop the talk and do the walk.

[jerr11]

The Games are over!

Let''s call the whole thing off!

Give Tibet back to the Tibetans!

[hypnotoad72]

killtheliars - the problem transcends America, but you''re right. But our investors think China is the way to go. *shrug*

[irliberal]

Hmm.

The headline might as well have read "Pope picks nose" or "SinginRick finds image of Jesus in morning pancake".

WHERE IS BIN LADEN? That has really been the only relevant question that needs asking since the invasion of Afghanistan.

Seven years of war. Civil rights breached by our commander in chief. Internationally recognized torture sanctioned by the White House. Two invaded and currently occupied countries. Hundreds of thousands dead, including 4000 American soldiers. Billions of our tax dollars

spent, and yes, are still being spent. Yet Bin Laden still lives.

The one, simple word for this is: failure.

Failure of Bush. Failure of Cheney. Failure of the republicans.

Time for a change.

[Syndicate]

What is china''s Exuse for occupying Tibet?

[rational_1]

Good for them! The upcoming Propaganda Games are nothing more than a remake of the 36'''' Berlin Olympics; just a different group of *** this time.
Posted by wawhite74 at 11:28 AM : Mar 24, 2008

Right on! What were those morons on the IOC thinking when they gave these rotters the Olympics? Maybe they''re tired of athletic world records that will now be impossible to come by in that smog-ridden hellhole.

Hope one of the torchbearers has the good sense to toss the torch into a lake before it gets to Beijing.

[inventagod]

Quit buying those cheap Chinese products.

[shanev137]

China shouldn''t be allowed to be in the Olympics....let alone host it.

I agree give America back to the Native Americans.

Oh, that''s right they are not native either...

Guess I must be a Native American, my family goes back 300 hundred years. Might not be as long as other Native Americans (up to 10,000 years) but since there are no laws concerning length of family stays on the continent I suppose - no I accept no other power or authority other than my own declare myself a Native American.

And then there are two instances of mixed marriage with other so called Native Americans. However, I will not get into that 3/8th Indian argument. I will not try to declare myself an Indian, just a Native Born American.

No argument can dispel this FACT.

End of line....

[nolalou]

Screw China, we in the U.S. need to look out for number 1. Posted by killtheliars

I guess you mean ''screw china'' right after we repay them the almost 1 trillion in debt! To add insult to injury, we can''t trade with Cuba, because they are an oppressive Communist country, but we can do all kinds of business with China! Do you think we''d be there if the Olympics where being held in Havana?

[usbrit-2009]

I wonder how much of the world would be boycotting the Olympics if they were due to be held in the US.

[davek455]

China must step up to the plate and act responsibly if they want respect. We are not giving China respect unless and until they earn respect. By obsderving human rights. By working with North Korea, Sudan and other countries where they have influence to bring about peace. If they don''t do these things, we should use our wallets to harm them by not buying their contaminated products anymore.

[tomanyt]

Boycott Beijing...FREE TIBET!!!!

[davek455]

we should not boycott the olympics, it only hurts the athletes. olympic boycotts do not work, but we should stop buying chinese products

[cyberus-2009]

Boycotting would be pointless at this stage of the game .. the networks have already paid for the TV rights, which is why the chinese are changing the rules (no live broadcasts) now and tickets are already sold.
Point is they have the money, they could care less whether anybody shows up now.

[downsteamjim]

To Keithgardner: Thanks

[rushlimpdrug]

Posted by KEITHGARDNER at 01:28 PM

and your family came from?

[randynason]

Given the recent circumstances and the violence that erupted, these games should be banned. I congratulate the protesters. No one else appears to have the courage and conviction to stand up for the killed, injured and the maligned.

[yongamerica]

Seeing that China NEVER allows any one to voice their opinions the Olympics are viewed as the only time a whisper can heard above the crushing Red star.

F R E E TIBET

and China - F R E E YOUR PEOPLE Don''t forget those who tried peacefully in Tiananmen Square. The Chinese people do deserve to be treated as subhumans by their political slave masters.

[yongamerica]

I mean The Chinese people do NOT deserve to be treated as subhumans by their political slave masters.

[bsgm2]

they have a right... free.... speech...truth....

[buttonjockey]

I''m curious as to whether or not the memory of the China Olympics will outlive the memory of the upcoming protests against China''s reputation for human rights abuses, Tibet occupation and environmental disregard.

[yongamerica]

Even Black American slaves had more human rights than the Chinese people.

F R E E Chinese expression of thought, speech, and will.

[beehive21-2009]

The IOC,( FOOLS )blew it,and should never have let the commies entertain the Olympics,The big mess is yet to come,Fools,why trust a backward government,to host the Games, when so many great nations were available ?

[alphaa10-2009]

As an international ceremony celebrating human ideals, the Olympics cannot endorse a blatant affront to those ideals.

The Chinese hypocrisy over Tibet is undeniable, and whether the lighting of the Olympic torch occurs in Athens or in Beijing, it never should be used to santify Chinese abuse of human rights and dignity in Tibet.

Perhaps the Olympics should be held in a location permanently neutral, so no such problems occur in the future.

[txmtnlaurel]

As a Chinese, I have never been a big fan of the idea of holding this Olympics game in Beijing. I predicted the West is going to use this game to embarass China and serve their agenda. China should initiate and organize her own version of the international sports game and invite the developing counties and friendly countries to the event. Welcome to the Coalition of Willing.

Texas Mtn Laurel

[brianbwb-2009]

"(sadly and strangely, it seems some blacks wish to reverse that progress, by popularizing an image of themselves as uneducated criminals: rap)." Posted by cneron

As a "Black" producer, I can tell you that your statement is incorrect. It is not the producers who determine what you see and hear, it is the distributors and marketing departments of the giant record cartels, and the media outlets that choose what to broadcast. They choose what will be on TV and radio, and in films, and they are the ones that choose only the negative images and portrayals.

And they are not "Black".

To your statement; "Americans once believed blacks were sub-human chattel,..." read some of the posts of the political stories'' threads, it is quite clear that many still do.

[brianbwb-2009]

China occupies Tibet, people protest, the media plays it up.

The US occupies Iraq, people protest, the media plays it down.

Maybe it is time to cease holding Olympics games, until the most egregious forms of inhumanity are eliminated.

[flywithwing]

Have you gone to tibet ? If not ,you have no right to comment on this matter .You have to be responsible for what you say.If you want to say human right .Please tell me ,what is human right ? Does human right is the american''s aggression ?

[excoachken]

If the Cowardly Cowboy really had a set, he would cancel our participation in these games because of the most recent human rights violations against Tibetans, by the Chinese government. But, then who would he have to borrow money from to fix the train wreck he has made of our economy?

[sblake63]

Protesters are disruptive scum and nobody pays attention to them. They should be shot on sight.

[libsrweak]

f the Cowardly Cowboy really had a set, he would cancel our participation in these games because of the most recent human rights violations against Tibetans, by the Chinese government. But, then who would he have to borrow money from to fix the train wreck he has made of our economy?

Posted by exCoachKen at 07:58 AM : Mar 25, 2008
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and if the cowboy does pull out team..what would you say then? the same thing..you know how i know..BECAUSE YOU REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT TIBET..CHINA OR HUMAN RIGHTS......ALL YOU CARE IS YOU WANT TO BIT CH BIT CH BITC H

[ricknuber]

China will make a ton of cash from the games, none of which will trickle down to their people. This will all be spent on China''s massive military buildup. Which *IS* a threat to America, as China is a hostile nation.

Between Wal-Mart and all of the other morally bankrupt corporations who are willing to sell their souls for a quick buck, we will soon have to worry about our troops facing shiny new Chinese weapons paid for by American citizens. They don''t exactly have the greatest track record in non-proliferation.

Boycott China. Not just the games, but their products and corporations as well. I understand that it''s hard to buy anything not made there, but we have to start trying. Stop supporting the enemy.

[oda755]

Where is the internationl nations throwing a fit with these Commie''s, or better yet the one''s who protest the war in Iraq o that''s right the would shoot them DUH !

[lfitts1]

Protesters are disruptive scum and nobody pays attention to them. They should be shot on sight.

Posted by sblake63

Actually that''s what Bush believes too so you are in good company--that is OK I wasn''t using my civil rights anyway. How stupid of the IOC official--the disgrace is that the Chinese are killing the Tibetans--not the fact that people are protesting

[awong22-2009]

There is a lot of misinformation according to readers'' comments: To say that China occupies Tibet is identical to saying the US occupies Texas, California and most of the Northwest. Tibet has been part of China throughout history.

China spends a fraction on military compared to what we spend.

US spy planes routinely flying on spying missions within 200 miles of China%u2019s coastline. Do we hear Chinese spy planes flying that close to the Californian coast on clandestine missions?

Why is there so much hostility toward an economically recovering nation that is of no military or political threat to the US?

Why don%u2019t us just mind our own business? And let other countries run their business?

[awong22-2009]

There is a lot of misinformation according to readers'' comments: To say that China occupies Tibet is identical to saying the US occupies Texas, California and most of the Northwest. Tibet has been part of China throughout history.

China spends a fraction on military compared to what we spend.

US spy planes routinely flying on spying missions within 200 miles of China%u2019s coastline. Do we hear Chinese spy planes flying that close to the Californian coast on clandestine missions?

Why is there so much hostility toward an economically recovering nation that is of no military or political threat to the US?

Why don%u2019t us just mind our own business? And let other countries run their business?

[awong22-2009]

There is a lot of misinformation according to readers'' comments. To say that China occupies Tibet is identical to saying the US occupies Texas, California and most of the Northwest. Tibet has been part of China throughout history. Tibet is NOT a separate country.

China spends a fraction on military compared to what we spend.

US spy planes routinely flying on spying missions within 200 miles of China%u2019s coastline. Do we hear Chinese spy planes flying that close to the Californian coast on clandestine missions?

Why is there so much hostility toward an economically recovering nation that is of no military or political threat to the US?

Why don%u2019t us just mind our own business?

[libsrweak]

Why don%u2019t us just mind our own business?



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Posted by awong22 at 03:05 PM : Mar 25, 2008
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because a lot of people REFUSE to allow this kind of human atrocity to occur. I am afriad that you are perhaps one of those that ''just walks away when a fellow human being is being mugged and beaten the death''..KARMA IS GOING TO HIT YOU IN THE ARSE..HARD.

[gurusavant]

the upheld image of peaceful chanting seems slightly inconsistent with violently charging monks and nuns. the olympic games are a poor target for such aggression, as athletics are commonly used to channel such, especially in the form of international olympic competition. taking this event as a means to attract the most attention, because their agenda is otherwise an overly religious indoctrination, archaic, and which no one would advocate for realistically, shows that no other benevolent ground is available.

[gce65]

BOYCOTT CHINA TORTURE/GENOCIDE OLYMPICS!
China, you have SHAMED YOUR ANCESTORS!
China is eater of turtle slime!

[sandyteds1]

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[gerrim]

WOW! Right On, French protesters! Bravo.

SHAME on IOC Jacques Rogge. (It''s always sad when there is a protest.) Not for me. Numerous protests exult me. The people expressing their concern for their fellow humans is so noble. SHAME ON JACQUE ROGGE AND GEORGE BUSH for caring more about business and business as usual than our fellow humans and their human rights.

[guysdigdirt]

SHAME ON JACQUE ROGGE AND GEORGE BUSH for caring more about business and business as usual than our fellow humans and their human rights.
Posted by GerriM

So Gerri, tell us all what you have done for your fellow humans.

[guysdigdirt]

BOYCOTT CHINA TORTURE/GENOCIDE OLYMPICS!
China, you have SHAMED YOUR ANCESTORS!
China is eater of turtle slime!
Posted by gce65

This I can agree with, but turtle slime is mild comapred to what they really eat.

[guysdigdirt]

Why don%u2019t us just mind our own business? And let other countries run their business?
Posted by awong22

For the same reason you don''t let your 8 year old son thrash the $hit out of your 3 year old daughter.

[BigCatOne]

Someday the Chinese people will realize that the 29 intellectuals and scholars who published an open letter to the Chinese government urging a reform of Tibet policy are heroes. I am deeply concerned about their welfare, as these brave moral leaders will almost certainly be punished by the Chinese government for their outspoken criticism of the government%u2019s brutal Tibetan policy.

Olympic sponsors include McDonnalds, VolksWagen, CocaCola, Lenova (watches,) Samsung, Adidas, Omega. I don%u2019t know about you, but I will think of the Tibetans being repressed, beaten, tortured, and killed every time I consider purchasing a product produced by these companies. Every time.

Webmasters, bloggers, blog posters and BBS posters, please use the following code on your website, blogs, and posts, substituting %u2018v%u2019 brackets for %u201CL%u201D brackets. [a href=%u201Dhttp://www.freetibet.org/%u201D] %u201CI support the Tibetan people in their struggle for religious freedom and human rights [/A]

I support the Tibetan people in their struggle for religious freedom and human rights!

http://www.freetibet.org
Viral marketing for Tibetan rights can help!

[BigCatOne]

Awong22 said, "Why don''t we just mind our own business?" Funny, this reminds me of the the German Catholics said after WWII-"We didn''t say anything when they took the Gypsys, and we said nothing. We didn''t say anything when they took the Jews, because we weren''t Jews. When they came for us, there was no one left to protest."

I am a proud American. I am proud of our forefathers. I am proud to be the spiritual descendent of Lincoln, Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington. In the best tradition of their ideals, I say, "Free Tibet!"

If the Chinese had invaded us 55 years ago, they still wouldn''t be safe in our streets in groups of less than several dozen. What they do to the Tibetans is the equivalent of making them spit on pictures of Lincoln, Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington. Try that here, Hu Jintao, and see what kind of reception you get. Live free or die!