March 24, 2008
Obama And Clinton Embellish Their Records
Washington Post: Both Democratic Candidates Overstate Roles In Key Legislation
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After weeks of arduous negotiations, on April 6, 2006, a bipartisan group of senators burst out of the "President's Room," just off the Senate chamber, with a deal on new immigration policy.
As the half-dozen senators -- including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- headed to announce their plan, they met Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who made a request common when Capitol Hill news conferences are in the offing: "Hey, guys, can I come along?" And when Obama went before the microphones, he was generous with his list of senators to congratulate -- a list that included himself.
"I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, Dick Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who've actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out," he said.
To Senate staff members, who had been arriving for 7 a.m. negotiating sessions for weeks, it was a galling moment. Those morning sessions had attracted just three to four senators a side, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) recalled, each deeply involved in the issue. Obama was not one of them. But in a presidential contest involving three sitting senators, embellishment of legislative records may be an inevitability, Specter said with a shrug.
Unlike governors, business leaders or vice presidents, senators -- the last to win the presidency was John F. Kennedy in 1960 -- are not executives. They cannot be held to account for the state of their states, their companies or their administrations. What they do have is the mark they leave on the nation's laws -- and in Obama's brief three-year tenure, as well as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's seven-year hitch, those marks are far from indelible.
"It's not an unusual matter for senators to take a little extra credit," Specter said.
Both Obama and Clinton have tried to make the most of it, and Clinton has attempted to bolster her Senate resume with her less-than-transparent track record as first lady. The release Wednesday of more than 11,000 pages of documents from Clinton's years in the White House sent reporters and political opponents scrambling for evidence that might contradict her lofty assessment of her performance in those years.
The Obama campaign pounced on the documents, using them to argue that the senator from New York had understated her role in securing the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement and overstated her roles in foreign policy decisions and passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act early in her husband's administration.
With colleagues in Congress quick to claim credit where it is due, word moves quickly when undue credit is claimed.
"If it happens once or twice, you let it go," said Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), an Obama supporter. "If it becomes the mantra, then you go, 'Wait a minute.' "
Immigration is a case in point for Obama, but not the only one. In 2007, after the first comprehensive immigration bill had died, the senators were back at it, and again, Obama was notably absent, staffers and senators said. At one meeting, three key negotiators recalled, he entered late and raised a number of questions about the bill's employment verification system. Kennedy and Specter both rebuked him, saying that the issue had already been resolved and that he was coming late to the discussion. Kennedy dressed him down, according to witnesses, and Obama left shortly thereafter.
"Senator Obama came in late, brought up issues that had been hashed and rehashed," Specter recalled. "He didn't stay long."
Just this week, as the financial markets were roiling in the wake of the Bear Stearns collapse, Obama made another claim that was greeted with disbelief in some corners of Capitol Hill. On March 13, Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, and Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, unveiled legislative proposals to allow the Federal Housing Administration to guarantee new loans from banks willing to help homeowners in or approaching foreclosure. Obama and Clinton were in Washington for a day-long round of budget voting, but neither appeared at the housing news conference.
Yet Obama on Monday appeared to seek top billing on Dodd's proposal.
"At this moment, we must come together and act to address the housing crisis that set this downturn in motion and continues to eat away at the public's confidence in the market," Obama said. "We should pass the legislation I put forward with my colleague Chris Dodd to create meaningful incentives for lenders to buy or refinance existing mortgages so that Americans facing foreclosure can keep their homes."
Dodd did say that Obama supported the bill, as does Clinton. But he could not offer pride of authorship to the candidate he wants to see in the White House next year.
"I've talked to him about it at some length," Dodd said. "When Senator Obama was there for that full day of voting, we had long conversations about it. He had excellent questions and decided to support it."
Clinton also has her share of colleagues only too willing scrutinize her claims. Her campaign Web site describes Clinton's "successful effort to create" the popular State Children's Health Insurance Program during her husband's tenure in the White House, and she has placed herself in the middle of major international events, including the Northern Ireland peace process and the Balkan conflict.
But prominent Democratic senators, Irish historians and even Sinbad the comedian, who accompanied Clinton to Kosovo, are challenging some of her assertions.
During months of SCHIP negotiations in 1997, her name rarely surfaced in news accounts. Clinton never testified before Congress or held a news conference on the bill. When Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (Utah), the lead GOP negotiator of the children's health bill, heard reports that Clinton was depicting herself as SCHIP's main advocate, "I had to blink a few times," he said. Hatch said he doesn't recall a single conversation with Clinton about SCHIP, even a mention of her name. "If she was involved, I didn't know about it," he said.
"You know how she says, 'I started SCHIP'? Well, so did I," joked Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), one of the Democrats who pushed the bill across the finish line along with Kennedy. Both have endorsed Obama.
Some Clinton insiders also are uncomfortable with some of her assertions. "I don't really like the way she talks about her role in SCHIP," conceded one former Clinton administration official, who supports the first lady's candidacy, speaking on the condition of anonymity in order to express his views candidly. "She doesn't say it right. What she should say is 'I was the driving force in the administration.' That's pretty big, and it's all true."
Obama has left discussion of SCHIP authorship to his allies. But his campaign has launched a broad challenge to Clinton's international bona fides.
In a memo last week, senior Obama adviser Gregory B. Craig, President Bill Clinton's lawyer during his impeachment proceedings, disputed a series of Clinton foreign policy claims. "When your entire campaign is based upon a claim of experience, it is important that you have experience to support that claim," Craig wrote.
But it may be SCHIP that presents the biggest question marks for her. The issue combines Clinton's twin passions for health care and children's causes, and Clinton talks of it like a proud parent. Speaking to General Motors workers last month, Clinton said: "If you want universal health care, you have to take on the insurance companies -- that's exactly what I did as first lady. And when we weren't successful, I kept on fighting until we got health care for 6 million children."
Last fall, Kennedy said SCHIP "wouldn't be in existence" without Clinton's support inside the White House. But when her rhetoric on the campaign trail started to filter back to the Capitol, the veteran legislator became stingier with his praise.
"At the last hour, the administration supported it, and she was part of the administration, so I suppose she could say she supported it at the time," Kennedy said.
Chris Jennings, health policy coordinator in the Clinton White House, offers a different account. He recalled discussing an SCHIP-like program with the first lady even as her universal plan was unraveling. Jennings said Clinton pressed her husband to include children's health coverage in the 1997 State of the Union address and fiscal 1998 budget request.
But context is key, Jennings added. Barely two years had passed since the collapse of the universal health-care idea, and Clinton was still nursing deep political wounds. "She low-keyed her exposure, but that was on purpose," Jennings said. "Her feeling was 'I know my role, I'm going to be quiet, but I'm not going to go away.' "
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See all 321 Comments"I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, *** Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who''ve actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out," he said."
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WERE EVEN. WE ALL KNOW BY NOW THAT THEY ARE POLITICANS. THEY ARE TRAINED TO LIE IN THE POLITIC''S 101, CLASS.
LETS GET IN WITH THE REAL ISSUES.
GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D" AMERICA.
blkpresident-I do believe you are the biggest racist on this site. I really do. You back a half black guy with little or no experience, one who is being pushed through the election simply because he''s half black. You are a bigot and a racist, and, might I add, quite hateful.
Rev. Wright is NOT running for president.
%u2026There it is in all its maggoty ugliness. They are trying to make Hillary supporters stop volunteering, donating money ...The evil geniuses ...and the @$$holes in The Gang of Four (Dean, Brazile, Pelosi and Kennedy) ... disgusting little tricks from the Republicans. Like, if you make people believe that Hillary ..cant make it...you do this relentlessly over the next 5 weeks, maybe the voters will give up on her ....Rove made it so easy. ... Just disenfranchise them. Hate those annoying primaries with their long hours and secret ballots? Flood the caucus and make it so rowdy that precinct captains are intimidated, .. Anyway, those stupid, old shift workers %u2026.her voters home and passive, just propagate the meme that even if she wins all of the remaining primaries, ... And don%u2019t forget that no Republican campaign against a Democrat is complete unless you make the outcome against you look somehow illegitimate, so tell everyone that it is unfair if the superdelegates break the tie.
Yglesias is wrong if he thinks Obama is our second favorite. ... At least I%u2019m fairly certain *they%u2019re* Democrats. I don%u2019t know what kind of construct Obama is. ....The Gang of Four ... he will be beholden to The Gang of Four and the legislators in the Bush Dog states. %u2026
Poor little Obama another Party prop like Bush and please Obama has not record.
Sounds like you''re overdue for you morning coffee. Contrary to your comments, I am NOT hateful--just want to make sure America votes smart, and even you know voting for missy or gramps is not in the country''s best interests. When has that woman ever specifically said exactly what it is that she can do to enhance our country, especially since our economy is sagging and we are still at war mind you. If lil missy cannot handle the heat of politics she should return to the heat in her kitchen.
I WONDER IF CNN, WILL GIVE HER THE SAME COVERAGE AND AIR TIME, THAT THEY GAVE FOR OBAMA''S CAMPAIGN PEP RALLY?
THEY CAN HAVE ALL CLINTON (MOSTLY WHITE) SUPPROTERS TO COMENTATE THE SPEECH, JUST LIKE THEY HAD ALL OBAMA (MOSTLY BLACK)SUPPORTERS AT THE OBAMA, "GREAT SPEECH" NUMBER TWO.
EQUAL TIME FROM CNN, WILL BE A STEP FORWARD FOR THE MESSAGE THAT MR OBAMA SUGGESTED AMERICA NEEDS TO CONTRONT THE EQUALITY ISSUE.
NOT A CHANCE.....
GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT "G D AMERICA"
%u2026With every electoral victory of his opponent, Obama has intensified his cries of racism and increased his own overtly racialized claims. Casting common phrases, such as a roll of the dice, as racist code. Claiming that his opponent did not shed a tear for the black victims of Hurricane Katrina. Sneering that his opponents supports were Archie Bunkers. Sampling Malcolm X''s anti-white rhetoric in Mississippi. The more he is challenged on basic issues such as economic policy and electability, the more he escalates his rhetoric of race.
His speech the other day had a peculiar theme: America''s racist past can only be laid to rest by voting for Obama, which would prove that his accusations aren''t true. What Obama does with his rhetorical strategy is turn something salutary - a proud vote by the African American population for a competitive AA candidate - into something corrupting - that a failure to vote for him is nothing less than an expression of (white) racism. The fundamental reason you typical white folks aren''t voting for me is because you are driven by racism. He presented a peculiarly bastardized version of John Edwards'' Two Americas;%u2026
Very telling.
Does that surprise you? Obama sounds very entitled. Think entitlements of your hard earned money.
Think Rev. Wright will look good in the Lincoln bedroom?
http://www.talkleft.com/
...Barack Obama frequently cites his impressive record as an Illinois state legislator as an indicator of his experience in running for President.
Turns out, according to former Chicago reporter Todd Spivak, all of his legislative accomplishments were in his final 7th year and were handed to him by his mentor, Ill. State Senate President Emil Jones.
The Illinois legislature was dominated by Republicans for 26 years. These included Obam''s first 6 years in the state Senate. Not surprisingly, says Spivak, he had no legislative achievements during these years.....
Yet people STILL vote for them because they WANT to believe they are trusworthy...
Go ahead... do so... being dumb in America is free too.
At least John McCain has the kahones to tell Bush he was wrong when we all knew he was wrong... At least John McCain is an honorable, patriotic citizen we can believe in.
McCain 2008!!!!!!!!!!
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HEY BLKPREZ, THANKS FOR THE INFO.
BUT, WHAT POINT ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE?
GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT, "G D" AMERICA
Yet people STILL vote for them because they WANT to believe they are trusworthy or somehow better...
Go ahead... do so... being dumb in America is free too.
At least John McCain has the kahones to tell Bush he was wrong when we all knew he was wrong... At least John McCain is an honorable, patriotic citizen we can believe in.
Republican Revolution part 2--- McCain 2008!!!!!!!!!!
;)
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/23/21452/2456
First there was Tony Rezko. Then Jeremiah Wright. Now get ready for Emil Jones, President of the Illinois Senate who was so instrumental in Obama''s legislative career he referred to himself as "Obama''s godfather." The TimesOnLine (UK) has the details.
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What''s the matter with Jones?
For almost a year Jones has used his position as leader of the state senate to block anticorruption legislation passed unanimously by the state%u2019s lower house. He has also become embroiled in ethical controversies concerning his wife%u2019s job and his stepson%u2019s business.
None of them is linked to Obama, but the Democratic contender can ill afford another scandal related to his former Chicago allies.
The Chicago Tribune in this 2007 editorial provided the details:
It''s been a rough few weeks for Emil Jones (D-Chicago), president of the Illinois Senate. He''s had to defend himself against published reports about lucrative state jobs held by his wife and son, and a utility company contract given to his stepson. He shocked and undermined some of his fellow Democrats by pulling a rare parliamentary maneuver to stymie a statewide electric rate freeze.
So, ''Lil Hillary is giving a speech today on the economy. What took her so LONG?! Amercia doesn''t want or need a leader who isn''t prompt and punctual. America is crying out for real leadership? Where''s Hillary? Take the apron off ''lil missy and step up to the plate or pack it up and go home already.
Rev. Wright is NOT running for president, and he won''t be invited to sleep in the Lincoln Room either.
I think the field for both parties is really, really poor. I am a dyed in the wool hillary hater and have been for years. I do not like mccain. As for obama, I do not want the most liberal senator to be president. As for his race, it is so telling that the only time he brought up his white roots was to try and save his arse. As I have said before, he had the perfect opportunity to try and unite us at the onset by pointing out the fact that he is half black & half white and that both races made him the man he is today. Instead, he sat and listened to the hate speech of wright. Sorry, he''s a phony.
Again, thanks for the decent response.
My point is simple: Rev. Wright is NOT Obama. So, just let that old news story die and simply discuss real issues in this campaign: like America is crying out for real leadership, but Where''s Hillary hiding? She never offers SPECIFICS about anything.
You''re welcome for the genial response; however, you may also wish to join us in our campaign. Why would any American waste their vote on someone who cannot even stay awake during the very speech he may even have to make someday (NOT!). Missy and Gramps are out! He can do geritol commercials and she can don an apron and bake a batch of cookies instead of going on with her pipe dream of a women becoming president.
HILLARY IS SUCH A SHE-MAN WITH GLUED ON PATCHES OF HAIR ON HER UNDER ARMS!!
Both support NAFTA and free trade...both will keep us in the war...though one is very shy about saying so... He wants to be the new ''Nixon''...with a plan to get us out, which is really a secret plan to keep us in Iraq.
To protect the biggest embassy in the world and provide ball boys for the tennis courts, thousands of US troops will have to remain. If al Qaeda shows up and establishes a "base" then we go into the double bonus for the War Pig in sheep''s clothing...they get to go operational.
If you bring out the combat brigades in the middle of the war and leave support people...who is going to protect the support elements? Its as lame a plan as John Edwards'' silly plan.
Obama doesn''t have to worry about it...its just PR BS to sell himself as a ''peace candidate'' and collect the chump vote. In the last election Kerry went hyper-War Pig and was going to out-war Bush in Iraq...that didn''t work, so now they''ve tacked to an anti-war rhetorical position...just ignore the War Pigs and Neo-Cons supporting and advising him and his bellicose statements regarding Pakistan and you, too can be a believe in ''change''.
We cannot blame the media because ''lil missy is a female or because McCain is an OLD man. These are true realities, and America simply wants a leader to be up to the challenge of the rigors of the presidency. Sleeping through critical intelligence briefings or adopting a cake mix bowl foreign policy is not indicative of what America wants at this juncture in our history.
The republiCONs ,they woud never lie, cheat, and steal
to win an election, would they?
What kind of right wing tool wrote this garbage?
slow news day?
four more of this vote McBushCain
Yes, Pepper, Obama''s great claims of having sponsored 800 bills leaves out the part where they all went dead on the senate floor because the republicans controlled it.
It also leaves out that the only things that did get passed, were those pieces of legislation Jones sent his way at the exclusion of all other senators. Jones called himself the ''kingmaker''. That legislation was passed in the LAST year Obama was a senator.
In order for Mr. Obama to have sponsored 800 bill in eight years, he would''ve had to have had a bill on the floor every day the senate met from January to May. When in the hell did he ever sleep?
So far, we KNOW that Obama operated on the fringe of the corrupt board, and I suspect it will come out that he had influence in it. We also know as a senator he wrote letters of testimony for Rezko to get some $43 million to build some slums in his own district.
Obama is a fake, he lies, and his credentials of having less than 36 months in the US senate does not even begin to qualify him to apply for the job of president.
Do you think that McPeak and Lester Crown, the Israel-firster and driving force behind General Dynamics have suddenly turned into doves?
Just because Hillary has a curly little War Pig tail doesn''t mean Barrack doesn''t. Don''t be a ''Chump for Change'', Vote for a genuine anti-war candidate.
IT''S OBVIOUS YOU THINK HIGHLY OF YOUR OPINION. I WOULD PROBABLY BE CALLED A RACIST IF I SAID THAT YOU ARE A "TYPICAL" OBAMA SUPPORTER. OPINIONS ONLY COUNT IF THEY COME FROM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER. THE OLD STORY AS YOU CALLED IT; I''M SURE THE ISSUE OF OBAMA''S SUPPORT OF A RACIST, ANTI AMERICAN, ANTI JEWISH, ANTI WHITE, PASTOR, WOULD LOVED TO BE FORGOTTEN BY THE THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN. "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE," AND A LOT OF OTHER AMERICANS WILL NOT FORGET SUCH RACIST REMARKS SUPPORTED BY YOUR GUY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
GOD "BLESS" AMERICA. NOT, "G D" AMERICA....
WHERE DOES AN ARKANSAS BRED NY SENATOR GET $5M DOLLARS BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND NOW WITHOUT STEALING FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS?
ANY WIDE HIP HILLARY SUPPORTER CAN ANSWER THAT?
THAT IS STEALING,
THAT IS FRAUD,
THAT IS HILLARY CLINTON!!
CHINESE WEB SPAMMERS SAY $5M COMES FROM BILLS BOOK DEAL, B S!
LETS SEE THE FINANCES HILLARY!!
NOW, SHOW ME, PROVE IT%u2026 LETS SEE HILLARYS FINANCES!!!
ITS WHITEWATER ALL OVER AGAIN SETTING UP,
THE DISTRACTION LIKE BILL CLINTON, WHILE REPUBLICANS ARE RIPPING YOU OFF!
BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON ARE CLOWN CON MEN (HILLARY IS A SHE-MAN)!
HILLARY FLIP FLOPS AFTER 100% SUPPORT OF GW BUSHS IRAQ OIL WAR!
HILLARY WAS HOME ON ALLEGED DAY OF SLICK WILLIES HUM JOB!
HILLARY HAS FAILED EVERY ATTEMPT AT HEALTH CARE!
EXPERIENCE? AT WHAT, BEING A LIEING FAILURE?
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Hope you''ll reconsider and give Obama another look after PA. votes. I suspect ''lil Hillary would have no choice but to accept reality after that, and rather than drag Obama through the mud, her exit may benefit in helping Obama project who he really is instead of being saddled with that woman Geraldine Ferraro''s ***, etc. As far as President Johnson goes, he couldn''t hold Obama''s coffee cup.
Well said!
The American people have three candidates left. Regardless of Pastor Wright, we cannot afford to choose a ''lil woman or an OLD man (McAin''tAwake)to keep us safe from terrrorist and improve our economy. It''s really that simple. Missy and Gramps are out!!!
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Posted by BLKPRESIDENT at 10:15 AM : Mar 24, 2008
Yeah, but he got JFK''s civil rights legislation and MLKS dream legislation passed, didn''t he?
Your Mr. Obama just steals everybody elses legislation and calls it his own. He''s a fake of the nth order.
The task for the voter is to figure out to what degree each has done this, on what subjects, and then decide for him/herself which one to vote for!
This is why---I find so humorous---the unequivocal support offered by supporters of each candidate. Neither is ideal, just figure out who would be the better of the two!
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Posted by nolalou at 10:19 AM : Mar 24, 2008
My thoughts exactly.
In response to your question about what presidential candidate or any office-seeker for that matter who has NOT embellished his record, I know of at least several, but there may be other examples too: George Washington; Abraham Lincoln and Dwight Eisenhower. Of course, the difference between these presidents and ''Lil Hillary is that they are real men. Is she really up for the challenge and rigors of the presidency? I don''t know any soccer moms--if any at all-who are.
HILLARY DESTROYED HER HUSBAND, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS. MAYBE THE MONSTER IS NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.
HILLARY DESTROYED HER HUSBAND, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS. MAYBE THE MONSTER IS NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.
HILLARY DESTROYED HER HUSBAND, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS. MAYBE THE MONSTER IS NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.
HILLARY DESTROYED HER HUSBAND, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS. MAYBE THE MONSTER IS NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.
HILLARY DESTROYED HER HUSBAND, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS. MAYBE THE MONSTER IS NOT SO BAD AFTER ALL.
First, good-morning. Now, let me take the gloves off for the remainder of the day lady. Where it''s admirable of you to be proud of a fellow Texan, remember that President Kennedy held Johnson''s hand and guided him towards embracing cicil rights for all. While we are on the subject of your Texas, What were you guys and Ohio thinking!!!! Too bad JFK isn''t still around to help teach both of your states how to vote smart. Doesn''t matter anyway, after PA., ''lil missy''s out. Somwehere in NY a lonely kitchen stove needs a woman''s touch.
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Posted by nolalou at 10:19 AM : Mar 24, 2008
For that matter,who hasn''t done it on their own resume?Who in their right mind is going to tell their next prospective employer that they didn''t get along with the foreman on their last job,told him what you thought of him and his ancestors,then loaded yer shtuff and went home?LOL
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Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 10:25 AM : Mar 24, 2008
Drank it all.I''m fixin''to go to the kitchen and get some Koolaid,want some?
I already acknowledged it was JFK''s legislation, can you not READ?
Texas, Ohio, Massachusetts, and most of the big states with high populations, that Hillary won in the primaries will carry her in the November elections, and Mr. Obama''s red states and crossover republicans will disappear. The DNC knows this already. I''ll personally hand you a box of kleenex if Mr. Obama loses the nomination, and when he loses in November if he does.
LMAO.
Obama has CHANGED me to a Fox News Regular and Republican.
He can help change. he really can.
16 years of DNC support gone. Let''s talk about anti-Americans running for President.
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